Switchfest 2019 - Kome (Shulk) Vs PG | Marss (Zero Suit Samus) Winners Top 32 - Smash Ultimate

[@linhtang122]

What if you wanted To kill Shulk But Shulk said SHIELD

[@SJdaHeadband]

-rupi kaur

[@Swordmaster7th]

I read this, at a slow, power point pace.

[@bruce4139]

Then I would just combo him better

[@raincabreros4857]

QuacklQuacks doing shiek damage

[@alanmatteo2904]

You probably dont give a damn but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account? I stupidly forgot my account password. I love any tips you can offer me

[@qualia4673]

This is the best time to be a Shulk main Everyone's popoffs at the end were hilarous, especially Uncivil Ninja's lmao

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

i love Kome's signiture popoff!

[@leaf8554]

The way Kome switches and utilizes Monado Arts mid match is incredible. Awesome set.

[@bruce4139]

And he knows when to use each one and when not to

[@awsmcurt8608]

eh this matchup is awful and its not that hard to hit the b button

[@noahtawil8793]

@@awsmcurt8608 it’s not that hard to jump and hit the A button either

[@janswhatsupdoc]

@@awsmcurt8608 it’s not that hard to press the R button either

[@javiergtz135]

@@awsmcurt8608 lmao sit down

[@TeleportlabsETH]

Damn, first Shulk I see that lives up to the hype.

[@fupalover]

Nicko?

[@EED1_evilsbane]

Hector Flores wanna 1v1?

[@MLPflutterguy]

Marcus Rondo hate to say it but kome is way better with shulk then nicko. i’ve been a nicko fan since smash 4 and even i know that kome plays shulk better then him.

[@GodsNightwolf27]

MLPfluttershy i’m pretty sure in streams a while back even nicko called kome the best shulk

[@anibalvaldebenito8810]

@@MLPflutterguy i would say that nicko plays him more "normally" than kome, but kome pushes the character to his limits

[@vedhanxeno]

This was the best moment of the night. Uncivil, Tremendo, Derek, Jared, Selah and I were screaming our heads off and seeing Kome get such a huge win like this felt unreal. Shulk broke

[@lnpREKKA]

fuuuck, that shield switch up to jump then air slash was CRAZY like holy shit

[@Kirusei]

Wish I was there

[@joseaybar5354]

This is the power of the monados!!!

[@txnafish]

brog moment

[@Flare8295]

@@Kirusei Me too

[@SaMiChi]

Shulk Mains Rise Up! That last game last stock couldn't of had ended in a more Shulk manner. Switch into 2 arts offstage, from defense to offense, to get the kill. Amazing.

[@mycoinsyourpurse2244]

Damn, thise were actually some big brain Monado plays.

[@MintyMinster]

@Bananeen 0, yeah I love BBM B - Dad B - Come M - Back

[@raincabreros4857]

Monado arts you uncultured swine

[@dende_ult714]

@@raincabreros4857 you're confused my guy

[@kungfumaster298]

@@raincabreros4857 Wacha talkin about? He's not talkin about Monado Arts

[@ericzhang4243]

This is why the word sh*lk is banned in Marss’ chat

[@jcrazedtheshepard9314]

I did not know that lol!

[@snipp8871]

Which part?

[@glacationEasyStore]

22:24 KOME is insane

[@なべニキ]

これほんと凄い

[@thegoat-sg5hg]

Shulk mains going crazyyyyy let’s gooooo xenoblade that GOAT game 🐐🐐🐐

[@tymartin2519]

Finally, kome showing us the monado's power! Great set, nice to see a shulk take a set from a top player

[@wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos]

I'm a zss main and what happened on that set hurts my soul

[@bruce4139]

@@wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos does marss have a secondary/pocket?

[@vicenarian340]

@@bruce4139 He has since pocketed Snake as a secondary.

[@colonelchester]

11:30 shield art canceled into jump art in the duration zss f smash had endlag into a punish to optimize damage and followups

[@gluessb]

Colonel Chester wtf I didn’t even notice the jump switch. Kome is OD.

[@pistarrafernandez9830]

Kome should've changed to buster instead of jump, but was a nice play

[@kevindelgado3396]

Is Shulks tier list placement finally going to be based on results and not “potential”?????

[@mr.moodle8836]

I mean, they were still correct to place him so highly based on potential. Marss literally had to play unlike he does against any other character to take a single game, and this is probably some of his most defensive play ever too. Shield art is busted af, you literally can't combo this character. Maybe you could learn matchup specific combos that work when he's in shield art, but then he could just switch OUT of shield art and get out of range. It doesn't take results to see that Shulk is suuuuuuuuuuper busted. Hopefully, results coming in will show people that he's not just top 15 but honestly probably top 5, maybe even better.

[@jijmotorp3079]

@@mr.moodle8836 i think he is definetly top 5 contender : im sure the 3 bests are snake joker and peach (arguably pikachu too) and then you have top 5 contenders with : olimar, ptrainer, inkling, shulk, lucina, wario, palutena, Wolf, fox and GANON

[@duckdudette]

@@jijmotorp3079 I agree, other than Joker top 3 (he's more like top 5/10, he is just favoured by some great players) and Ganon (his recovery and frame data just can't cut him into top tier, probably not high tier either).

[@hatsunemiku8007]

@@jijmotorp3079 I thought you were making sense until you said ganon is top 5 LMAOOOOO

[@antonioizquierdo2331]

Ganon, as buffed as he got from 4 to ult, is still nowhere near high tier. He's a very good mid tier. His overall mobility, frame data and recovery holds him back. I like to call Ganon a "gatekeeper" character because he's a scrub stomper. Most high level players know how to play around Ganon's cheese while less experienced players get read like a book.

[@dylanr.7760]

Holy moly....Shulk isn’t just potential but now straight up facts.

[@k_2590]

コメシュルクが勝った時海外のシュルク使いが揃ってモナド掲げるの熱いな、、

[@なべニキ]

すこ

[@apes4days254]

Didn't even know you could grab the training bag LMFAO

[@Balling117]

Turbo nice pfp

[@magmivire]

Kome unlocking the button check meta 🙌

[@bruce4139]

? How

[@getbn6547]

Big win for Shulk. Bigger win for Kome. Good job to both players!

[@Thecurseofsanity]

Man a good Shulk looks frustrating to fight against. His aerials are so big dude! How do you get in on that!?

[@marche800]

You don't really. A lot of them as safe when space properly and even if you do get in he may just cheese any follow ups with shield and immediately reverse the situation.

[@ivanaviNiebla]

He is slow on startup and on landing lag, just bait and punish and keep the pressure. Not as easy, but neither as hard as it seems.

[@biohazard911]

That’s what she said !!!

[@chrishbeatboxing2291]

@@ivanaviNiebla shulk's aerials do have slow startup, but they autocancel on the ground if used properly, so they are hard to punish

[@ivanaviNiebla]

@@chrishbeatboxing2291 But not all of them autocancel, and between the last active frame and the autocancel window there's around half a second to punish every aereal

[@Fenyll_Fur]

Kome played so clean game 1. It was awesome to watch.

[@OyVeey]

shoutouts to the guy in the audience with the monado, you rock

[@modadv.s8992]

22:25 Off stage reversal. Jump art switch out of shield art to reverse up-b. So smart. Best end screen I have seen yet.

[@scruffytrav]

THATS WHY MARSS BANNED THE WORD SHULK OHHHHHHH

[@colonelchester]

nice stuff to kome but i really want to break down just how good shield art is in the mu. shulk can shield art during zss f smash, up smash, downsmash (to prevent followups after the stun), down b bury, side b, up b, neutral b, nair > down b kick, jab, fair, situationally dair, jab, and up air chains. all of zss kill options are either multihit or setups, meaning shulk can shield art everything. marss can only kill kome when shield art is regening!

[@DarkenedHalo115]

Colonel Chester just FYI, shulk can only charge arts during hitstun. So during the stun from paralyzer and burys from flip kick he can’t immediately shield art.

[@nuclearcoconut3664]

@@DarkenedHalo115 Actually, he can while paralyzed. Just not while buried

[@colonelchester]

NuclearCoconut ok thx for info. he can still shield art the boost kick out of bury tho

[@Swordmaster7th]

He switched to shield so fast at times when buster or smash was active to stop the buff the other player had over him. That's part of Shulk that needs mastering to use him properly

[@Kamer.Sounds]

Shulk at his best. So many movement and play style switch ups!

[@atha5469]

Bro, put yourself in the place of Marss. Kome's defense was absolutely impossible to break

[@billyherrington659]

Ikr. As a marss fan, it was frustrating to watch but I can't imagine what he was going through himself

[@spaghetti8061]

He was figuring him out, honestly think if he had more MU experience he could've taken the set.

[@Revoltine]

@@spaghetti8061 Funny you say that when Marss has historically beaten Kome before. This was a big win for Kome due to his losing streak.

[@theblockyinkling3889]

Yeah it just goes to show how annoying shulk is

[@Rosarioxg]

@@Revoltine I'm fairly confident that these two have never played until this set. This is the first time Kome has come to the US since sm4sh

[@FenixPlateado]

They called me crazy for sticking to shulk, whos laughing now

[@super117knight]

seeing the crowd and players while playing would make it much better

[@McNasty_0]

Thank you to the one commentator for saying "art" instead of "mode".

[@Kirusei]

AMAZING MATCH!!! We've finally got a Shulk in top 8!!

[@mitch_universe4058]

This is why I play Shulk, you know, alongside him being in the best RPG ever made

[@E-chan315]

修羅武羅TシャツとPopoffのガッツポーズ格好よすぎるだろ…

[@grodio9672]

This is the best shulk I’ve ever seen

[@Vinnay46]

They had to cover Marss' face with the thumbnail for the next video. Poor guy.

[@Balling117]

Vinnie notgonnasay funny shit

[@matthewmorrison3745]

That shit had me rolling lmao

[@ASMRbyJIO]

*Kome is wayyyy better than Nicko don’t ever disrespect Shulk Mars ever again*

[@tymartin2519]

kome and nicko have very similar results this season, if kome is better it isn't by much.

[@tymartin2519]

Update: kome got second at Evo japan, the second largest smash tournament ever so yeah kome definitely best shulk now

[@anibalvaldebenito8810]

I was actually thinking about shulk's upair not being that useless before the match. Now I have it clear

[@julietv4275]

Really impressive shulk player.

[@Tobtakular]

This shit is why I’ve been playing shulk since day 1. I aspire to achieve his immense potential like this fella

[@leinad0504]

I feel like a good Shulk is a good Joker counter. You can play so patiently and defensively which is how you wanna play Joker when he's in Arsene.

[@SkrymNV]

These are the best ZZS and Shulk mains imo. Such intense play by both of them.

[@jeffsiemens4485]

Solid match. Kome controlled this match from start to finish. Shulk is indeed powerful and kome’s use of the Monado arts is spectacular.

[@Swordmaster7th]

Finally someone taking the Monado Arts to the max. This guy's good.

[@yossachannel600]

最後のプレイうますぎる…

[@lordradiance2530]

It feels so nice for ZSS to finally be on the defense and be pressured for a change

[@万華鏡-y6r]

ジャンプ読みがうますぎて実況の「Kome!」が「孔明！」に聞こえてくる

[@mugiwara7116]

4:32 that was clean how Marss immediately adapted to the Shield Monado

[@obamaorb7426]

They aren't called monados....

[@patricksciortino3643]

That last kill is insane

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

Kome actually backslashed a couple times immediately after losing a stock like I do! I thought I was the only one!

[@thehypist2587]

Feels good being a Monado Boy. :)

[@blitzbluex5154]

Was there any monado arts dial storge used in this video? I watched it but kinda can't tell, new to Shulk

[@noahtawil8793]

11:32 how did kome switch to sheild art, then switch to jump art, then grab, all in half a second

[@Masonomace]

Awesome set, Kome.

[@lmao2302]

Shulk is so hilarious to watch.

[@jorgegonzalezvaras6301]

Amazing shulk. Very hard matchup for zss

[@kaeeeki]

22:29 コメさんのガッツポーズ

[@うさ-d5w]

コメさんやってくれましたね 次のウメブラも結果残せればpgr30位以内狙えるぞ

[@ImAviex]

What happened at 16:15 was the Shulk player footstooled ZZS's up air

[@StephenSiu]

Damn it's crazy seeing Mars play kinda scared for the first time

[@sebaschan-uwu]

4:18 thats the first time I've ever seen a backslash hit someone's back in a tournament and it was in buster too

[@jarrav8186]

Bruuhh these commentators are soooo biased for marss, they pop off when he hits a single flipkick but Kome hits a crazy mixup, or almost that nair to dair and they just go "yea ok"

[@linhtang122]

J Veennema ikr? One on the moments that stuck out to me was when Kome did an amazing art switch at 11:30 but commentators didn’t react to it at all. You could even hear the audience in the background reacting

[@j.prt.979]

Linh Tang I feel like they didn’t react to it because it was so fast and so good that it’s hard to even recognize. Fair enough though, commentators at big tournaments should be held to high standards.

[@810カート]

最後の後ろのギャラリーで今年1番笑った

[@Raza9428]

How do you cancel a manodo art?

[@bringbringish]

Marss controller setup anyone?

[@m0nkeydluffy167]

Best shulk in the world vs Best ZSS in the world

[@105BONVL]

Incredible

[@nonnolaser122]

Come on, the commentators have been a little too much patriotic now, when Marss did a not that much surprising kick flip kill on last match they were screaming and all, when Kome on last match and last stock switched between 3 arts to avoid the kick flip and killed Marss using a b reversed jump mode up b they were only like:”Yeah good kill” 🤦‍♂️

[@memento-9971]

Damn this was disgusting his defense was good. Amazing job from Kome and props to my not Marss for fighting until to the end.

[@Ryan_Austin]

2:23 / 11:31 / 13:43 / 21:12 / How does he do that

[@taistealai5523]

shulk tech, you could change arts during hitstun in sm4sh but due to him not having the wheel it was basically pointless

[@sebserrano8717]

SHULK GANG WYA

[@オリオン-v5t]

13:10 天才

[@WhiteLavender425]

Mvd chillin in the back

[@keilchip]

Marss did good, this matchup is hard for ZSS but once he figures it out hes gonna slay

[@lguy8476]

You'll still be forced to play Shulk's game at times with his range, being able to shield art out of pretty much all of ZSS's set ups and Smash attacks, etc. Monado is extremely difficult to camp out since it lasts a very long time and messing up/them getting a read once is no bueno. Smart art is extremely strong and up B oos can KO at like 80 mid stage. His ledge trap and edge guard game are also amazing which is one of the last places you'll want to be vs him. He's one of the most oppressive characters if you've watched Nicko, Uncivil, etc play him and have played vs him imo

[@matthewmorrison3745]

Idk, Mars took one game and most of those matches kome had 2 stocks left lol

[@aru5637]

コメシュルク！！

[@enkelegy]

I don’t really see the point at using Buster at 0-30%. I’ve just started the video and maybe the Shulk main doesn’t do this all the time, but can I have an explanation why Kome did this?

[@VesDegree]

With buster you gain access to true combos like nair-ftilt or dthrow-ftilt

[@BrandonBarry201676]

Buster art (purple) does more damage and less knock back 0%- 30% would be some of the best times to use it. Smash art (red) does more knock back and is best at higher %'s. If a shulk player turns on smash at a low % they may be trying to edgeguard better.

[@DavidLopeziNumbers]

Buster will deal more damage with less knockback. So typically it IS used at lower percents since you arent going to typically get a KO yet anyways. I think you may be mixing up BUSTER and SMASH manado.

[@Revoltine]

He did it because he's doing two things: 1) Maintaining advantage - Buster Art is extremely oppressive when you win neutral cuz the damage boost gives you higher shield damage and better hitstun when shielded, making Shulk's moves safer. When an opponent is at a disadvantage, they usually become more defensive and shielding is one of your defensive options (obv) but when Shulk is in Buster, shielding can become a losing bet for you when fighting against him. 2) Comboability - As mentioned by the others, the lesser knockback is a desirable trait for extending combos. Heck, one of Shulk's reliable kill confirm combo is done while in Buster Art. Look for Butterfly Step. That thing takes stocks even from heavyweights...

[@Revoltine]

I forgot to mention another thing... Kome's playstyle with Shulk revolves around being in a Monado Art 90% of the time, as opposed to Nicko who does more work as vanilla Shulk. Kome is usually in Speed, Buster, or Jump when dealing with neutral or at an advantage. Since Marss rarely took to the air during this set, Kome opted to cycle between Speed and Buster during neutral and advantage while going Shield when necessary, rarely ever using Jump unless Marss is high up after being combo'd, off the platform during an edgeguard situation, or Kome himself is recovering after being off the platform himself.

[@u.b-viruz7027]

Shulk is toptier

[@mr.sandman1177]

Can someone explain why I never see shulk's using counter?

[@tymartin2519]

It's really bad

[@mr.sandman1177]

@@tymartin2519 how is it bad? Seemed op to me.

[@dondaketype8811]

@@mr.sandman1177 The knockback and damage are nuts, but with how slow it is compared to other counters even with the slow down area, it's not very consistent. Also in Ultimate, it lost it's ability to ignore shields making it worse against projectiles.

[@soyboy1944]

Some might say he plays so passive its boring to watch. I think he is playing him just right and that is why he is performing so well. I still find it fun but can understand if some think its boring

[@ys9782]

Its just me or Kome uses Dial Storage sometimes?

[@BrandonBarry201676]

I think I saw some

[@rospoho]

What's that? I want to learn Shulk

[@BrandonBarry201676]

@@rospoho dial storage is a advanced technique that allows shulk to pull up his dial faster and change arts faster

[@rospoho]

@@BrandonBarry201676 thanks! Gonna study this stuff

[@ys9782]

@@rospoho dial Storage is a technique that lets Shulk save some Dial's Frames canceling it, making faster his Monado's Dial, letting him to choose Monado's faster, making that he cans combo between MAs, cancel lag of aerials and air dodge, etc. BSD has a vid explaining it so well, its a hard tech but its worth

[@seansolo3583]

Kome’s palutena looking clean

[@Lukiro]

13:07 GOOD LORD

[@parko5614]

When you play zss you just feel like you have to outplay your opponent

[@linh6538]

Great set! I wonder what Kome says before every game. He beats his chest and mumbles something

[@reisondominguez9919]

Hewwo uwu wakanda forever

[@job6986]

画面右端の一際目立つ白服の人はR2Gロックマン？

[@froakie1404]

I always knew Shulk was broken. Nobody believed me lol. But regardless, what a set.

[@arickwest9180]

MVD watching this set like🥱

[@KevSB07]

Commentary was alright but it was really lacking in hype. i mean, things were happening on screen that had no reaction from the commentators, when those are some of the most entertaining moments of commentary.

[@corgitoergosum8400]

rushdown/holding forward doesn't work against shulk...you have to be surgical with your play as ZSS. aim to keep him in disadvantage when he's in shield art, don't let him nair his way out. juggling him is good. and if he uses shield art offstage he's usually not in that great of a position. he was weak start up frames... we can call out where he's supposed to be jumping and win air to air a lot of the time, he can't really play a reactive game. buster mode should always be a liability for shulk in this mu, it makes our grabs on him super effective. trading stocks with stock leads against shulk is optimal it's a hard mu for zss but marss struggled from a bit of matchup inexperience here. speed, jump and smash art all get camped out, no questions asked.

[@samcase8088]

That Team Galactic music tho

[@davidhernandez9535]

Shulk actually cheats lol

[@Kirusei]

We do and we're proud lmao

[@rkate2833]

定時退社から来た

[@てる-g5z]

俺も

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Marss hasn’t seemed the same for a while

[@_1More_]

Man I agree he struggled the last tournament aswell idk what's up

[@crayhack]

Damn kome...

[@genesis1986]

11:30 BRUH

[@OfficialNeonScratch]

Marss: Shulk is what makes the game not fun.

[@jeilastnamejei5831]

Man shulk just saps the fun out of the game.

[@milkshakeofpower]

I knew as soon as I walked into this vid that kome was gonna win, he had that determination in his eyes. I look into mars eyes he kinda lookin tired, got any sleep man?

[@matthewmorrison3745]

He looks smug to me, dude came in his pajama pants the hell?

[@milkshakeofpower]

@@matthewmorrison3745 comfort makes all the difference

[@matthewmorrison3745]

@@milkshakeofpower Didn't this match lol

[@fakename6498]

Take a shot every time they say: ___ is online Tech chase scenario Will not quite connect

[@Patrick-ho3st]

The problem is that Shulk requires crazy optimization and dedication to be top tier. Why would someone with the time and talent not just choose Joker and cheese out the win? Is he potentially the best in the game? For sure. However, unless he counters MKLeo's Joker, other top players won't invest the time, and anyone below top level play won't be able to utilize him to his 'potential'.

[@pistarrafernandez9830]

maybe because not all people likes joker?

[@davidtalero2874]

6:28-6:35 did I see my actual clone in the background?

[@whotookcluzio]

anyone here from alpharad

[@THEKAEZON65]

Japanese players are broken pls nerf

[@gunslinger9786]

Stfu weeb

[@wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos]

@@gunslinger9786 I'm pretty sure he's just trying to say that Japanese players are really good in a funny way

[@fupalover]

A solo mac got 13th at a major. They are broken.

[@THEKAEZON65]

@@fupalover How tf are they using Mac and still winning. It doesn't make any sense

[@wolfgangamadeusmozartphotos]

@Bromar O I'm pretty sure you're just being you in a very "you" way, bet your parents didn't have the chance to give you a lesson