Switching from down tube friction shifters to handlebar friction shifters

This road bike has had new high handlebars installed, so it's no longer easy to reach the down tube shifters. In comes Sunrace handlebar shifters.
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[@gabrieldafonseca7663]

Perfect for what I need. My gf said "he doesn't talk" XD I actually liked, no need to talk, just straight to the point visuals. It was actually quite soothing to hear the ambience noice. Thanks!

[@hamstergraphics]

Thanks, and watch “old shovell” channel . Bike restoration with no talking !

[@tmayberry7559]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@B_COOPER]

I second this. Not every video needs a tutorial and I actually just needed to see what angle you set your shifters to cuz I’ve been having issues with mine rubbing the brake housing

[@lazyhominid]

Been planning to replace my old yucky integrated index shifter and brakes with friction shifters. Didn't know that they should have brake wires. Thanks for that heads up, I will check out what I need for my replacement shifters.

[@coletrick8748]

These Sunrace friction shifters are amazing for what they cost! Of course they don’t compare to Suntour or Shimano metal friction but they do the job for $5 shifters.

[@mohammedirfan660]

This video was very helpful. I am learning and building a CCM Concorde Road Bike which I picked up from Marketplace. Upgrading it now from downtube shifters to thumb friction shifters. Thank you for the great work and the video!! I was quite confused on how to upgrade!

[@AG-el6vt]

Thank you for uploading this! I'm looking into doing the exact same mod to an old road bike with downtube shifters, although I haven't decided yet whether I want to put thumb or grip shifters. This vid helps me a lot with what parts I need and how to install the new shifters.

[@tinycmo]

Thank you. Perfect angles and explanation for my 'new" bikes conversion from grip to thumb shifters

[@recyclespinning9839]

Thanks. I picked up a vintage Schwinn Voyageur in minty original condition for touring. This might be the way to go instead of bar ends which bump my knees. I guess I can mount on the top of the drop bars ..

[@winzunterwegs]

A very interesting video. Thanks for that! Can you adjust the tightness of the lever with the screw on top of the shifter? Greetings from Germany

[@hamstergraphics]

Greetings from Canada Winz, yes the thumb screw on tip will adjust the tightness of the lever

[@myriadplanes]

Nice, I might do this at some point, although I love the downtube shifters, its much easier with thumb shifting. The only downside I can see is more cables, but thats just visual

[@hamstergraphics]

I like down shifters too, just the reach people don’t like I guess

[@myriadplanes]

@@hamstergraphics Yeh it is more diffucult especially with raised up handlebars, which i have on mine

[@asabovesotabelow]

I was actually looking for a way to mount the old style tube shifters to handlebars... The craftmanship on the old style levers is very nice eye candy for me, although that is a damn nice clicky sound you have on these shifters.

[@hamstergraphics]

I do like the look of down tube shifters too. Hard to find them for a reasonable price these days too.

[@asabovesotabelow]

@@hamstergraphics ...I have noticed the pricing, looks like I will be hitting garage type sales looking for the vintage bicycle deals for that bling bling.

[@philmccavity]

How difficult is the front derailleur cable tension adjustment? It looks like you didn't have to tweak much to get that to work, normally they can be fussy. Wonderfully simple approach to filming a pretty non-trivial topic (for beginners at least), thanks!

[@hamstergraphics]

The good thing about friction is it really doesn’t need micro adjustments like indexed, you just move the shifter until the derailleur is in the right gear, and not touching the sides. As long as your limit screws are set correctly it’s pretty straightforward

[@fatrobdouble]

like dude said, friction helps a lot but vintage front derailers are far more forgiving in terms of everything as compared to "modern" )mid 90s on, or something like that) which are far more sensitive to the size of the chainrings and the crank's chainline.

[@VirtualBikeKitchen]

That was great!

[@feliksisaksen]

Confused about the comment regarding index shifting cable - I've ordered some friction thumb shifters, but they dont come with cables - are not the regular shifting cables good enough? Nothing seems to indicate specifically "index shifting" on the box of the shift cables. i'm new to bike building, so forgive if stupid question.

[@hamstergraphics]

Yeah really it’s just less important for friction shifting, you can use shifter or brake cable bad there won’t be a noticeable difference

[@fatrobdouble]

you need linear/compressionless shift cable housing for indexing, but friction can run either or. At this point, most available new shift housing is going to be compressionless, unless you are getting extremely cheap stuff. Friction doesn't need it, but i believe it feels better with the linear stuff than it does with the coil stuff.

[@wdpayne1958]

Unfortunately, the cheapest Sunrace shifters are NOT durable. I put some on and they broke within 1 month.

[@hamstergraphics]

What broke on them? I've never seen issues with them

[@greycruz9194]

I have an sis shifter. I was wondering if is it compatible with 6speed?

[@brrrt2437]

Does friction shifters dont need to be tune up

[@hamstergraphics]

Since there’s no click, they don’t need to be as accurate as SIS indexed gears. A lot easier, just slower to shift, but not by much

[@brrrt2437]

@@hamstergraphics thank you you deserved a subscribe

[@ThisTimeTheWorld]

Have they improved the plastic now or do they break easily?

[@hamstergraphics]

I mean they cost $4 so I doubt they’ve put much RND into them… customer hasn’t complained yet though. So I guess they still work

[@jhomarjosemondana435]

Do you think it's compatible on mtb 8 speed rd?

[@hamstergraphics]

The shifters? Do the click into each gear now? You’ll likely need indexed (SIS) shifter

[@jhomarjosemondana435]

@@hamstergraphics opps sorry what i mean is friction shifter compatible to any kind of Rear derailleur?

[@hamstergraphics]

@@jhomarjosemondana435 you can yes, it may be a bit fiddley to get into gear

[@jhomarjosemondana435]

@@hamstergraphics oh thanks sir. Planning to change my 8 speed combo shifters to friction shifters 😊

[@jfjoubertquebec]

But why?

[@hamstergraphics]

Reach? Comfort? People adjust/switch handlebars from drop to flat bar so makes it harder to reach down tube.

[@Greekpighunter]

He forgot to lube the cable

[@hamstergraphics]

Who’s “he”?

[@nowthenad3286]

You sound like a Brit who has lost his accent.

[@hamstergraphics]

Ha, observant. Left uk in 96 to work on cruise ships for 15 years, then moved to Canada. From Morecambe Lancs, family still there, was there for New Year

[@nowthenad3286]

@@hamstergraphics Nice. Great video by the way. I think I will do the same.