Switching to Linux might change your gaming experience...

[@RoundTableChris]

High fps also helps 1% lows and those intense moments are not felt. I haven't used 240hz, but I know I can tell the difference between 144fps and 190fps on a 144hz monitor.

[@bradmiles1984]

Really you can tell the difference when your fps is higher than the monitor can display? Science and reality would like to disagree with you. You might "think" you can tell a difference but there is no difference because your hardware is capped at 144hz. You're just pushing your gpu/cpu harder than needed.

[@PlayF0R3V3R]

@@bradmiles1984 frametimes bro...

[@bradmiles1984]

@PlayF0R3V3R it's not going to change your frame time your just generating more frames your monitor is having "skip". The frame time is only faster on frames you're even getting to your monitor. If you're frametime is faster but 54 frames are dropped every second, what do you think you are gaining? Yes it's faster but then compensate for the frames lost and it's the same.

[@asdfoiua]

@@bradmiles1984 it still can reduce latency to have more frames than your refresh rate by having a more recent frame to display depending on frame timing and when the frame is ready to be sent to the monitor.

[@sams_gaming_lounge]

​@@bradmiles1984 you can reduce input lag by having more frames than your refresh rate. 2x the framerate will have reduced input lag because you can skip the older frames and choose the newest or closest frame. Let's say your monitor will only display every 16.6ms(60hz) you cannot get lower than 16.6ms for the time between frames shown. However if your fps is 120(8.3ms) you will still see a frame every 16.6ms but your inputs will be shown at a delay of 8.3ms instead of the 16.3ms that 60fps has. that will scale up indefinitely, but lower input lag will always be better. people can see motion a lot faster than you think, and input lag will always feel worse than you realize.

[@evilleader1991]

All that just to say that higher FPS means lower input latency since the frame your display will show will be more recent. So that is why even 60hz monitors will benefit from running a competitive game at high FPS, ofc this has its limit as latency can increase if your GPU is pegged at 100%. That is why tech like Nvidia reflex and AMD antilag2 were developed, they improve latency when GPU bound...if game doesn't have reflex or AL2 support then lock your FPS to a point where your GPU is at e.g 90% utilization.

[@the_real_bitterman]

Given all the weird stuff Windows does anyway I better life with a few % less fps in some games than to deal with what ever Windows does. There are so much more downsides to Windows which don't get out weight by a few % more FPS in certain games.

[@JessicaFEREM]

most games grab keyboard and mouse events with the FPS, this means a game will feel more responsive the more FPS you get in game. so if you're getting 60 fps, the game is reading your keyboard/mouse 60 times a second. even dollar store peripherals scan at 125FPS.

[@JessicaFEREM]

If you have a 1000Hz mouse, which most gamers do, then you should be trying to get that FPS so your game can be more responsive, but ofc as long as you're matching your display FPS then it's not as much of a deal. it's still important.Honestly if you have a high refresh monitor without VFR, then you should try and set your monitor's refresh to about what the game is running at, or a multiple, ofc don't worry about this if you have VFR enabled because that should theoretically do this for you.

[@JessicaFEREM]

for playability, frameTIMES are much more important. if the game is hitching like a mofo, then it's gonna be unplayable, bit if you're getting like 30-45 fps completely stable, then it's gonna be playable, maybe unless you're playing an action or FPS game. linux has less background processes so it's more likely to hitch and have poor frametimes. that's why 1% and 0.1% lows are so important.

[@lobotommy2557]

Cool to have more FPS, especially in competitive games The problem tho, is that you can't enjoy it on Linux because of some client side Anti Cheat

[@A1RM4X]

True. I am personally not missing Valorant, Warzone or PUBG. But I understand some of us gamers might not share this point of view.

[@chrissncrossn6770]

Imho a constant frametime is more important than much fps for smooth screen. in my case, my screen is 165Hz. Freesync is from 43 to 165Hz. 80 to 100fps is good looking for me. i use ingame videosettings to reach near or more than 80fps avg and set framelimit to 80. if i reach 100fps avg, framecap is 100. 1% lows doesnt matter if not competitive

[@asdfoiua]

1% lows can show problems like stutter and other issues that might not be obvious from average fps numbers, as well as 0.1% lows which can show microstutter that might not even be visible on lower refresh rates. Latency difference and motion clarity to me feels much more impactful than the refresh rate itself though, as I have been using 240hz oled for a bit less than a year and its noticibly more clear in motion than my old 240hz tn LCD.

[@clankfish]

having good 1% lows is always good

[@ShidNoh]

sure it's good but you also need a good baseline fps, you can have consistent frametimes but still be playing at 60fps on 144hz monitor. I can tell from my experience both on windows and on linux that it's not a good experience, but i am one of those who usually caps fps when i have enough so i can get more consistent frametimes, i usually cap at the maximum consistent framerate not necessarily at monitor's refreshrate.

[@JalilovTimur]

@@asdfoiua I agree, on oled picture is much smoother than on lcd, for example Rog ally on 40 frames is stutterry than on steam deck oled.

[@HowToLinux]

RDNA1 and below GPUs are crazy superior in terms of drivers to Windows, sometimes even like 20% or in old games like 100% in combination with DXVK. I never thought, there is another guys simping for latency as much as I do :D

[@HowToLinux]

Like, the average Linux user has an RX580. This is why this info is so important because this changes the statistics completely. In comparison, I never saw an Nvidia Card performing better on Linux in Windows games. I hope that soon RDNA2 drivers start to outperform Windows as well, currently it is pretty much a tie

[@hundvd_7]

4:01 It works for me on Linux with an AMD card. Though, _after_ I've used a game that has uses said VRR, my desktop gets kinda broken and forces itself into a bad VRR state, making stuff run at 18fps unless I move the mouse or otherwise interact. But a logout login solves this.

[@GWFO]

very insightful thank you broo cant wait for black myth part 3😎

[@whydoyouaskdude]

What is with the 100 % at Mesa and 125 % at AMDVKPRO? Performance difference between free and propriety drivers? Where can one see the whole discussion about it?

[@Automata_Omega]

Can human eye "tell" the difference between 60fps and 120fps? I always had 60hz monitors, so this is why I'm asking. Probably I'm used to it, but for me, I don't know man, 60fps is more then enough for me. But maybe if I had 144hz monitor and I could tell the difference between 60fps 120fps or 144fps, then maybe I'd say that 60fps is no longer enough. I think it is psychological, because if as in my example we dont have an example to compare with, then we are comfortable with that we actually have.

[@asdfoiua]

Yes. I have used high refresh rate since 2018 and can tell even when my 240hz second monitor just used for discord or youtube is at 120hz. I'm using it at 120 now because I don't have the right cable to get 240 from it. The human eye doesn't even see distinct frames, so we could theoretically get marginal benefits and be able to tell the difference much higher than current monitors can go. Just the latency difference is insane to me, not even counting the motion clarity. I am using a 240hz oled now and it is insane even compared to my previous 240hz tn panel LCD. Honestly a much bigger upgrade for game experience than getting a new pc as long as your current one can run games well enough.

[@Winnetou17]

Depending on the context, it can tell even from 120 Hz/FPS and 240 Hz/FPS. Moving a window around and trying to read the text of it while in motion is a very quick and easy test if you can feel the difference. Or some scrolling text. The speed has to be quite stable for these text. There are other things too. I do have friends and they did say that after getting used with 144 FPS, they don't want to go back to 60 FPS. Personally I cannot yet tell, I'm still on 60 Hz/FPS since I'm using an 8 year old laptop, there's few places in which it can do 120 FPS, so I didn't bother getting a better, faster monitor yet.

[@Automata_Omega]

gotcha thanks for the detailed reply. I'm gonna upgrade my machine soon so as the monitor aswell then :)

[@cybernit3]

Well I use to play 60Hz but got a 165Hz monitor (remember you need Display Port for 165Hz, HDMI just goes to 144Hz); and it does really improve the experience especially in competitive MMO games. But from 165Hz to 270Hz; I don't think I would be able to tell the difference, would be overkill for my needs. Summarized: 165 Hz is a nice sweet spot.

[@gamerowski2137]

its insanely huge difference bug biggest difference is like between 60 and 144 with higher you can still feel the difference but its not that huge.

[@mirkodiciano4647]

perfect timing

[@Winnetou17]

0:35 I was asking myself the same, why more First Person Shooters, when it's well known and established that strategy, be it Real Time Strategy or Turn Based Strategy or Grand Strategy is the best ?

[@Naku_u]

emphasis on mechanical skill which leads to instant gratification esp among younger gamers

[@Winnetou17]

@@Naku_u I was joking with that.... but you are correct!

[@nelfowz]

what is this app that you're using to draw notes and stuff ?

[@A1RM4X]

Got you dude: excalidraw.com/

[@nelfowz]

@@A1RM4X 🙏

[@clankfish]

anyone know what blackboard drawing software that is?

[@ianakotey]

@@clankfish Excalidraw. It is a web app

[@Theblackdevil31]

excalidraw

[@clankfish]

@@Theblackdevil31 very cool, thanks!

[@methos1024]

If you compare every Game that way... ? Then .. do you switch For every Game The Operating System where it just runs the best? That would also be the consequence :D Nearly nobody would do that.

[@A1RM4X]

Not really... When I notice I can´t get a solid experience on Linux I like to compare it with the experience on Windows to see if it comes from the game itself or something else. Only 2 games pushed me to do that: Alan Wake 2 and BMW.

[@methos1024]

@@A1RM4X its really really rare, that i don't get a solid experience on Linux. The last game i remember ist Cities Skyline which ist also a powerhog on Windows and Civilisation VI Years ago, which i didn't retest til now. probably ist fine now. That 20% minus Performance for Linux ist also kind of ridiculus :D which you mentioned. its more like ranging from -10% to +10% depending on the Title. have you seen recent Tests from Press? Like from PCGH @A1RM4X I play like every Weekend with my Brother over Internet. He on Windows, me on Linux and The Bugs also when we see them and mention them are equal :D nowadays (so they are perfectly translated Game Bugs) and the Performance ist within the Boundary of our Hardware equal. (Same GPU, similar fast CPU) It is even That way that he has More Bugs actually than me. I don't telling you here from a Hardware Problem (i already spare that out and its a thing of the Past now). One Bug was/is the Raytracing in DiabloIV causes heavy stuttering after some time where it runs fine - like minutes after activation it on the Windows side. So he can only actvate Raytracing for shadows on the Windows side without issues. I have all that activated on Linux, now even HDR and i like it, it runs fine. On his side on Windows HDR seems to be a clusterfuck :D i have tesed him multiple times to use HDR because it looks good. he refuses, the Desktop and apps will look horrible and the game also will look weird he says. But thats just my storys :-)

[@methos1024]

@@A1RM4X I play like every Weekend with my Brother over Internet. He on Windows, me on Linux and The Bugs also when we see them and mention them are equal :D nowadays (so they are perfectly translated Game Bugs) and the Performance ist within the Boundary of our Hardware equal. (Same GPU, similar fast CPU) It is even That way that he has More Bugs actually than me. I don't telling you here from a Hardware Problem (i already spare that out and its a thing of the Past now). One Bug was/is the Raytracing in DiabloIV causes heavy stuttering after some time where it runs fine - like minutes after activation it on the Windows side. So he can only actvate Raytracing for shadows on the Windows side without issues. I have all that activated on Linux, now even HDR and i like it, it runs fine. On his side on Windows HDR seems to be a clusterfuck :D i have tesed him multiple times to use HDR because it looks good. he refuses, the Desktop and apps will look horrible and the game also will look weird he says. But thats just my storys :-)

[@methos1024]

@@A1RM4X Why does KZbin repeatedly delete my new answer?: its really really rare, that i don't get a solid experience on Linux. The last game i remember ist Cities Skyline which ist also a powerhog on Windows and Civilisation VI Years ago, which i didn't retest til now. probably ist fine now. That 20% minus Performance for Linux ist also kind of ridiculus :D which you mentioned. its more like ranging from -10% to +10% depending on the Title. have you seen recent Tests from Press? Like from PCGH I play like every Weekend with my Brother over Internet. He on Windows, me on Linux and The Bugs also when we see them and mention them are equal :D nowadays (so they are perfectly translated Game Bugs) and the Performance ist within the Boundary of our Hardware equal. (Same GPU, similar fast CPU) It is even That way that he has More Bugs actually than me. I don't telling you here from a Hardware Problem (i already spare that out and its a thing of the Past now). One Bug was/is the Raytracing in DiabloIV causes heavy stuttering after some time where it runs fine - like minutes after activation it on the Windows side. So he can only actvate Raytracing for shadows on the Windows side without issues. I have all that activated on Linux, now even HDR and i like it, it runs fine. On his side on Windows HDR seems to be a clusterfuck :D i have tesed him multiple times to use HDR because it looks good. he refuses, the Desktop and apps will look horrible and the game also will look weird he says. But thats just my storys :-)

[@methos1024]

@@A1RM4X its really really rare, that i don't get a solid experience on Linux. The last game i remember ist Cities Skyline which ist also a powerhog on Windows and Civilisation VI Years ago, which i didn't retest til now. probably ist fine now. That 20% minus Performance for Linux ist also kind of ridiculus :D which you mentioned. its more like ranging from -10% to +10% depending on the Title. have you seen recent Tests from Press? Like from PCGH I play like every Weekend with my Brother over Internet. He on Windows, me on Linux and The Bugs also when we see them and mention them are equal :D nowadays (so they are perfectly translated Game Bugs) and the Performance ist within the Boundary of our Hardware equal. (Same GPU, similar fast CPU) It is even That way that he has More Bugs actually than me. I don't telling you here from a Hardware Problem (i already spare that out and its a thing of the Past now). One Bug was/is the Raytracing in DiabloIV causes heavy stuttering after some time where it runs fine - like minutes after activation it on the Windows side. So he can only actvate Raytracing for shadows on the Windows side without issues. I have all that activated on Linux, now even HDR and i like it, it runs fine. On his side on Windows HDR seems to be a clusterfuck :D i have tesed him multiple times to use HDR because it looks good. he refuses, the Desktop and apps will look horrible and the game also will look weird he says. But thats just my storys :-)

[@MegaKiri11]

The previous video was much more informative

[@A1RM4X]

Fair. I still think it is important to share this perspective because viewers ask me all the time why I am always trying to get my fps maxed out when I play.

[@mansourimohamedlamine]

we need make linux hard for all user

[@inversionz8503]

makes sense tbh

[@n.m4497]

KDE has VRR.

[@RedSntDK]

For Nvidia: X11, no, Wayland, yes.

[@daviusikse1486]

AIRMAX, you are flexible : next video I want to see you inside a box XD XD (Dans un boite en carton en mode contorsioniste XD) Elle est cool cette suite de vidéo tableau noir

[@marcinpawelski4091]

rtx go windows... no rtx go windows too.. simple