Syd Barrett: "It's No Good Trying" Take 5

[@monkeyxx]

The genius of Syd Barrett... I don't care what anybody says, I think he's one of the best to ever do it.

[@234cheech]

he sure was

[@travelingtimes1993]

People apparently all have different tastes in music, but I am one who agrees with you. A star who burned very bright. Sure wish he could have continued, but it wasn't meant to be.

[@dzonbrodi514]

4 years have passed since you said this, 40 more can pass and you will still be right :)

[@sydneykeller8230]

Can’t help but LOVE him ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Oh_I_Will]

Nobody cares that you don’t care

[@lilyangel4659]

I am so glad for internet and recordings, so even us younger ones can enjoy good music

[@864gel8]

glad to see you. tnx.....be floyd...

[@ankansengupta]

IKR?

[@iadorenewyork1]

I am not so young, but I am too glad for this way of hearing an array of great music.

[@ArmsDealer06]

It’s great when they use music in movies, that brings a lot of forgotten classics back into the light where it belongs. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood is a good example. Even Neil Diamond got a shout with Brother Loves. Hair, by The Cowsills.

[@Hootiebird61]

Syd here sounds completely together and coherent. Oh, and brilliant.

[@therenewedpoet4292]

He is quite capable on record. Syd did want to fall out of Fame in 68 and then basically wanted his solo career. 69-70 he records, as well as the Peel Sessions and releases the two albums. Then he does his libe Stars in 1972. His last recording is 1974. His legacy is he lived until 60 and most likely with some sort of alienating personality, which can be defined medically. His father was a respected pathologist, and died in 1961. If my dad died when I was 14, 15, I wouldn't have made music. I would have collapsed right then.

[@SeaCryptWeave]

i dont think he wanted a solo career as much as he wanted to express himself even after get ejected. he retired from music and became known as a painter. the lime light of the band is why he left to begin w. he never agreed to he the best selling band. he had a few architecture student buds and they made music. for awhile. til they decided to be cop outs to fame. imo

[@shakeitangelable]

I like this version best. Just him and his guitar. I also like the,"It's nice jangly. Gonna give it that." Love his solo work so much.

[@GroovingPict]

Kathy O'Neil that's not what he says...

[@pierrealexandre5701]

+Kathy O'Neil Yes,there a wonderful simplicity of just voice and guitar,,I enjoyed the way he played with the timing in that extended strumming between lyrics,(bridge?),forgive my lack of muso terminology,folks...!(from an old fossil who was only 9 when Sid played this,so get writing and playing now kids,time speeds up after 40,as well as 'life begins at...." :)

[@TDWE]

+GroovingPict actually it is....

[@pierrealexandre5701]

very nice metre and flow with lyrical content,always loved Sids' honeyed vocal delivery of this song,a simple presentation i s often the best way to convey art/message/feeling and vibe.....................

[@thehotyounggrandpas8207]

Actually it isn't. "Its nice jangly. Can you keep it there?"

[@adriantaylor6490]

Many of his recordings where done by simply setting up a Mic in front of his electric fender telecaster and recording it close up without an amp or being plugged in. That's how he gets that "Jangly" sound and why it doesn't sound quite like either an acoustic guitar or electric/amped sound. He would do the strumming and vocals together and the others instruments would be added later. Once the other instruments are added using the technique you get that sound that is like no other. :)

[@TheHumphreyClinker]

It sounds like an electric guitar played through an amp but with the mic close to the guitar, or perhaps one mic for the amp and one close to the body of the guitar. It could also be an electric guitar plugged directly into the mixer. Not many amps sound that clean.

[@phoneymalony]

@@TheHumphreyClinker yeah its absolutely an amp , I suspect we are hearing the plectrum from the vocal mic.

[@brianschmidt2570]

He played an Esquire, not a Telecaster

[@lucifersam4521]

@@brianschmidt2570 Well on his solo albums he played on telecaster.

[@whatevershebrings]

@@TheHumphreyClinker Close, but I suspect it's a 50/50 blend of a line signal direct from the guitar into the mixing console and a microphone placed over the plectrum.

[@anamikaroy5758]

Soothing voice. RIP Syd

[@Karoke71]

I love his voice..

[@pasqualemuzzupappa1991]

In spite of having Just a Guitar and no other instrument playing, Syd plays and sings in a way we can' t forget: Simply but appealing, his way of playing Guitar remains unique, we Can recognise it at once

[@Madcaplaughsdoll]

Roger Keith Syd Barrett Beautiful Legend

[@obscuredbyclouds.]

this acoustic version is inspiring, he really transmits his feelings here

[@onabussound5185]

Bellissima melodia, questo ragazzo era davvero avanti a tutti, grande grande Syd. Grazie per esserci stato ❤

[@ricardolopes7558]

You´ll live forever in our hearts, Syd. R.I.P

[@bigchuffa1]

Nice and jangly...light years away from everything else...my fav, Syd

[@olgachefugge]

he is just syd..and syd means lovely poet man...I had never listened to this...you're everything syd

[@tyrssen1]

Still remembered, still missed.

[@Imalwaysrightson]

Syd Barrett the best

[@Corrupt5358]

How the fuck did they manage to get a recording like that in the early 70, through a decent amp this is fucking crystal clear... They don't record music like that these days, they boost the signal and totally mess it up. RIP Syd. And a cigar to whoever managed to do this in the studio.

[@jeffrefrig]

You ain't shittin', man! (Sir) But listen to the Buddy Holley apartment tapes that they didn't fuck up with add-on music after they found them. He played his guitar into a microphone on his reel to reel recorder. Look up "Learning The Game" on You tube. The picture of him standing next to Ed Sullivan is a great listen. The sound is awesome. You don't have to like Buddy, but he must've had a Hell of a good recorder. Peace, Jeff T. PGH PA

[@joseaquino8773]

Reel-to-reel is the best format for recording audio, he was obviously using at least good quality material for recording. That's why. Nowadays, it's all loudness war and shit. One of the reasons the music of today sucks.

[@nicolasmelodiumstudio6609]

Hello Sir To You, the crystal clear sound of this recording is simply the guitar direct in the console, we call this the DI (direct injection) sound. There is also a bit of the strummed strings going thru the voice mic. That all makes this very unusual sound that all guitarist hates, because they feel naked without an amp...

[@Rnune-zx7si]

sucks so bad i cant believe people eat it right up...no depth whatsoever

[@zatoichimasseur6767]

youl... get it.... when u grow up...... being 7 years old like u are now...... you are simply too little and confused and silly and innocent......

[@jamesmorris6866]

this song speaks to me

[@FBlackRules]

+James Morris To a lot of us, James.

[@RPete100]

I have finally found Mr. Pink. Shine on.

[@donnaeve6084]

Love his 3 takes and hearing his speaking voice SYD ❤️

[@j4unumber1]

It's great to hear music like this, especially from someone who is legendary - even to the point of being more myth than man. Syd Barrett was someone very beautiful and precious, and I am grateful that he was here. He was a tragic figure, at least in my eyes. Syd had potential and what he gave all of us was great music and poetry. THAT, to me was Syd's real legacy - his music and his words! It's playful and innocent and raw - even both his guitar accompaniments and with Pink Floyd reflect that.

[@geraldinejasnin7378]

very sad story ! rip SYD

[@ziggyzappada4554]

The one and only Pink Floyd!

[@raunaqbedi2852]

Ziggy Zappada yeah he was real pink Cant connect with their music post syd sounded so much like anything Once when my son was playing the who thought it was pink floyd They wanted accepability whereas sud was himself very honest artist Enjoying him everyday

[@dianejackson8397]

You mean Syd Baretth not Pink Floyd

[@SmallAlexMoney]

@@dianejackson8397 it’s a reference to Have a Cigar

[@cynthiamarston2208]

Enjoy these kind from Syd. Calms me a lot. Nice art work. I’m sure I’ve comment before here as I have it saved to my favorites of my favorites. I have his his CDs from this time aand it’s good to go with artwork but should last 6 hours!

[@alexdelvecchio2852]

This stuff is well genius. Syd( his nickname) is an artist. Music is well just part of him. Waters and Gilmore were his buddies. He was taught by Waters Mom. He is a big inspiration. No one English Rocker speaks like this. It is our language.Thank you for posting.You should have had the chance to hear this music in analog

[@keyboardwarrior9406]

Thank you for the upload. I love the internet.

[@loitermanart]

Love the acoustic guitar I wat to learn how to play just to play this

[@ilikeblondie]

just what i really really needed almost 10 min of syd

[@moneynews4333]

One of the best songs I've ever heard Syd was different. Slightly mad or very eccentric. But there's jokes in every line he says. He has a wonderful soh and can say things in a way it will take decades to fathom out haha! #LoveIt.

[@martincooke3934]

It’s nice jangly, can we keep it like that

[@wilhobbs207]

No good trying - version 5 is a life changer.

[@deborahpisano59]

Veriy talented and charismatic!

[@scissors656]

very abstract rhythm guitar.

[@smooro]

Gilmour said that he liked it to collaborate because he listened to what they were doing and thought it was kind of messy, but here´s only the man and his acoustic guitar and to me it doesn´t sound bad. In fact, I would listen to the whole set-list this way even with the variations included.

[@jordil6152]

I like it too but it would be very difficult to play along with this.

[@reademandweep4402]

that outro riff kicks so much ass

[@giuseppeforesta5215]

Shine on You crazy diamond syd.

[@deborahrobertson8606]

Beautiful.

[@maxtoscano]

another incredible song . extremerly dfficolt to sing.

[@danielvlee]

I don't think he was "that kind of crazy" -- at least after he was able to separate himself from the rock & roll world that was too much for him. I think he was just extremely depressed, and it took him decades, and total isolation from the music business, to really get over it.

[@themadcap1898]

Poindexter Q he was bi-polar

[@864gel8]

it really took him years to step into the sun....but he didn't dance.......at all.......

[@j.j.spliffstar9633]

He was diagnosed w/ severe paranoid schizophrenia and he never got over it.

[@Sandwich13455]

@@j.j.spliffstar9633 he was never diagnosed with mental illness.

[@fabiolalugo5505]

Totally agree

[@fictionmusicpro]

I love this WAY better than the official release. Trying to confine his consistently snakey ryhthm into 4/4 was a disaster

[@periscopio6401]

[@CarloMarchiori]

I think he had an uncommon, original armonic sensibility

[@cynthiamarston2208]

Carlo Marchiori yes....he also was born with synesthesia which would necessarily cause some other unique stuff. If he had stayed away from acid and mandrake all would have evolved better. I’m a firm believer it was actually acid that did him in the most because around same era Peter Green and his roadie got acid at a German commune type rich people’s place and when they got picked up by a road manager to go back to where the band was staying they both were acting similar to each other...especially spaced out. They both ended up have some very long term difficulties ( years) which resulted in electric convulsive therapy and other efforts. I don’t know about roadie for sure...I forget but Peter finally achieved enough results to get back in music. The lack of truly progressive actions left Syd to muck through it. I can only say poor Syd. Because at the same time he was “out of it” after his change he was rejected rather unceremoniously from the band he had created and went in to a bad depression. Over all considering these things and a few other things he did ok. There is about 6 years of undocumented time while still in London most the time just doing who knows what before he went full time back to the Cambridge family thing. He didn’t go down easily but he did go down and alone basically. I admire him. There but for the grace of god go I. He never got the chance to develop his art stuff....it does take time for that. He got waylaid by music. He got waylaid by drugs. What art he left was about the same as what art he was applauded for while in school. He admitted the school was very demanding of him and he didn’t think he was up for it really ( late teens spoiled do whatever you want sexy male on the hormones taking charge) he was up to it but maybe at a later date....but then the whole drug and music deal. It’s pretty simple really. Took me a while investigating a lot of resources. He did not get worse in his visual arts. He did slowly loose what he had learned about music. In any case. He did better than a lot of people. Died with over 1 1/2 million pounds....not dollars for his budding musical abilities. And has left a legacy even though much of it is gossip..... enough of it is truth. He deserves the spot in limelight. Hopefully it serves to help another who might make different choices about “scenes”....drug or whatever.

[@864gel8]

with a nice jangly hand above the water

[@kennysutera2887]

Cynthia Marston ffs no he didn’t have synaesthesia. Behave and stop trying to propagate unfounded rumours that have no solid evidence and are just trying to romanticise things. Thank you 👍😃

[@kennysutera2887]

The rest of your points are spot-on by the way 👍😃👌

[@raunaqbedi2852]

Carlo Marchiori yep nd how it comes across in his interstellar overdrive improvisation nd even in his solo stuff The man saw music from very diff perspective Rip syd

[@MrDirtybear]

To save yourself having to listen to the false starts please start listening at 1.03. The recording stops at 6.19. It is a remarkable lyric and performance....

[@CarlDidur]

Best tune.

[@wireman4545]

most underproduced recording studio song ever released. This whole album could have been a commercial success if was produced properly. Great songs.

[@krollpeter]

They gave him an electric guitar, not connected, just to get any vocals out of him.

[@obscuredbyclouds.]

outstanding art of syd

[@ericcurda2787]

Genius..

[@swansinthesea5381]

awesome painting..

[@ChristineVendetta]

OMG i love this song. thank you for uploading :D

[@justmadeit2]

It would be interesting to hear him talk more, i wish there was footage of him talking in the late 60s and early 70s, the only footage is from a tv show where he is interviewed with Roger Waters

[@randyrhoads9153]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipC3gJaNftSJhsk He talks a lot in the interview in this video. He was EXTREMELY eloquent and spoke so well. One of the smartest people I've listened to

[@justmadeit2]

@@randyrhoads9153 Thanks

[@randyrhoads9153]

@@justmadeit2 Np

[@rakefetgal8383]

bless you for uploading this!! thank you so much!! peace

[@malnoch3520]

I know that this is a long shot, but do you (OP, or anyone who happens to be reading this) happen to know the artist, or where I can find that painting? It's absolutely beautiful.

[@user-jv9qz2bu1r]

This pic of Syd resembles the look of Robert Smith of The Cure.

[@coyoteailstock9498]

I myself think Robert pulled his look from Syd

[@jayro3931]

Yeah, but i thought this looked more like Siouxsie Sioux

[@j.j.spliffstar9633]

The two shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence.

[@dummytree]

It's funny to hear the full band version, with the band struggling to keep up with Syd's sense of rythm, and then this. The album version was recorded with this (from 1:06) in their ears.

[@FBlackRules]

+dummytree He never played them the same way twice, "Have We Got It Yet". Jerry and Dave and the others (from Soft Machine) had to watch his hands to try and get the chord changes right.

[@dummytree]

I know!

[@FBlackRules]

Tell us more, please.

[@dummytree]

But actually, for that song, I think Soft Machine tried to play along to this recording of Syd Barrett playing on his own. It matches when you compare the two. They weren't in the same room at the same time. I have read it is one of the techniques they used for "The Madcap Laughs". Unlike "Gigolo Aunt" for example that WAS recorded as a band all at the same time, Syd + band.

[@FBlackRules]

Yes I think I read that in Chapman's book. Thanks, buddy.

[@checkyourhead9]

honey love you - today, and always

[@barnabyaprobert5159]

I hope that, wherever he is, he can hear you say that. 'Cause there's a fence down by the river Where the sounds unravel On the carpet of grass. By torch light. Again.

[@daphnestegmaier4752]

Teresa Marie me too

[@SpaceFlowerAesthetic]

*His career was painful short, yet he touched more people than he can ever know - Roger Waters*

[@jonfry4852]

3:55 - 4:54 Astronomy Domine anyone??

[@RenatoSilva-tm2qd]

Completamente outro plano. Syd é muito foda. Transcende.

[@864gel8]

I heard that same riff, from the first time i heard this version.....astronomy domine indeed......

[@864gel8]

syd got his own groove, never miss a pitching level of disguise by whosoever anyway......might get in any arguing apparently abroading lifeline...so whoever might think this is something, well around at that time we can get absolutely curtained........so to say...

[@ziggyzappada4554]

An amazing recording for the time!

[@864gel8]

syd got his own groove, never miss a pitching level of disguise by whosoever anyway......might get in any arguing apparently abroading lifeline...so whoever might think this is something, well around at that time we can get absolutely curtained........so to say...

[@sorwoggpm]

Anyone else hear three minutes of silence at the end?

[@ivanmarcovich1483]

sorwoggpm no

[@THEJETSETRADIOMUSIC]

sorwoggpm yes, wtf

[@dianejackson8397]

I thought it’s my phone settings dead )) thanks I meet your comment 🙏🏻

[@Pinkchyo]

my kinda of song-writer!!!

[@skovie23232]

@BeechwoodSilasLang I love both those songs in your name man

[@plecofanadam9818]

This saved me for now thanks

[@cynthiamarston2208]

And clicking thin plectrum....who else uses that? I’m sure somebody but it’ll remind me of Syd

[@Hootiebird61]

From where did that picture come? It's brilliant!

[@Kelly14UK]

Who knows. But he certainly influenced the Goth/ Alternative fashions a decade or so later.

[@giuseppeforesta5215]

Magica follia. Syd forever.

[@PeasGraveny]

Is this ithe session I've heard about where they mic'd up Syd's Tele like an acoustic.

[@initialsGS]

The labelling of Syd as acid loon gone flake begins in earnest with the naming of the first solo album. According to the replacement guitarist the title is meant to connote all things original, jolly and kind, amounting to a justification as unconvincing as the decision by Madcap’s producers - bassist and guitarist in cahoots - to dial up the fried vérité for aesthetic reasons. A more plausible gloss is that the inclusion of mis-steps and mis-takes exposing Syd in the most egregious manner possible are a means to absolve the producers from accusations of lo-fi unprofessionalism. The outcome is not lost on the artist who in his final interview proper in 1971 describes Madcap’s production as "dusty… unnecessarily so."

[@tockita]

Interesting remarks on Gilmour and Waters. Sometimes I do wonder if the simplistic story of "Syd went crazy" was an oversimplification by the band members who ultimately ended up making millions out of Syd's story.

[@arnoldlayne6743]

It’s okay to like Syd and the Syd less Floyd. I really love Syd but he must have been really hard to work in the later days. Let’s just be thankful that we got a bit of both. No need to make it a competition.

[@brianfergus839]

Tell that to the other Roger

[@RenatoSilva-tm2qd]

Uma das mais fodas! ❤

[@MrLewisFloydHenry]

yes

[@Zombywoof92553]

awesome thank you!

[@chrismoody5070]

He was with the wrong people who spiked his drinks then this .

[@dommirra5429]

Roger Syd Pink Floyd Barrett!!!!!

[@maxwellmaxamillian]

Awesome post, never knew this version was out there, how did you get it?

[@brokenpremise]

works for me, a unique voice. Who cares about technique. Thats for geeks.

[@patrickeitel3672]

it was clearly nice and jangly, the fact that david even considered turning it down is blasphemous

[@smooro]

Well, it's not a photo. It's a painting based if I´m not wrong- in one of the pictures Mick Rock took out of Syd's apartment, the same session with the car and stuff. So, this is why it doesn't look exactly like him. But I like it anyway.

[@JeromeHattKronen1664]

I think it's very Donovan i can tell cos donovan is diffrent from Syd

[@barnabyaprobert5159]

Excellent observation.

[@jacheesman21]

No Donovan may sound a bit like Sid

[@toyaquiyvoyaya]

Donovan is amazing. Specially in Sunshine Superman, one of the first Psychedelic Folk albums, it was released in 1966. Syd took it waaaaay further, though. His is a deliriant version of Folk, light years ahead of every other songwriter in Britain at the time.

[@kevinr.3542]

Donovan is underrated in my opinion. Sunshine supermine, season of the witch, barabajagal, mountain song, hurdy gurdy man.All great.

[@skovie23232]

@ilikeblondie i need a lifetime of syd

[@RELIC3862]

Ahh yes, these were the days when you played all the way through the song and you didn't take the best parts and stick them together with a computer.

[@toobmaniac]

Tim Sutherland they spliced tape together well before pink floyd which was a manual version of the same thing.. The ones Gilmour produced were left alone..He actually got a lot of criticism for releasing those songs with various takes and mistakes.. There is supposedly a lot more of these takes that they deemed not suitable for release..Possibly still in possession of Gilmour !

[@864gel8]

maybe somebody be of any help here? BTW, my worries as such.......BTW, WHAT IS THE FUCKIN AWSEONE CHORD HE PLAYS THROUGHT 4:33 to the 4:50????????? iLL be glad to know more about it......

[@jonathanbohman5069]

Play E major open chord. Slide fretted notes down one fret. The chord is E5bM7m3.

[@jonathanbohman5069]

Which is the first chord phrase of ‘Astronomy Domine’ (I’ve just realised).

[@michaelholtermann9129]

👍🏾 The healthy Syd Barett was very creative!! Unfortunately Syd had the wrong friends. He hung out with junkies too much.. 1965 founded and made Pink Floyd famous!!! In 1968 Syd was kicked out!!! Unfortunately Syd didn't learn anything from that!!! Syd continued to take drugs on his 2 solo albums... A real tragedy for Syd and his family... He was on the verge of schizophrenia... David Gilmour said: The recordings were difficult because Syd was in a bad state. Syd Barett needed therapy... Professional help from a good psychiatrist... Unfortunately Syd didn't get out of the car 🚙... Syd failed as a painter and musician... I don't know if Syd ever had therapy??? Unfortunately there are no more books in German...

[@TheDerek47]

Sounds like Donovan Leitch

[@billbrizo1968]

Different from me is = you can't be what you pretend = we are all one (unity consciousness). Yeah the guy knew some shit that made him different indeed. And if you take this knowledge to it's ultimate meaning then you may very well go crazy, unless you hang around here funning about until it's just no fun anymore. What Syd knew he can never tell, and what he told we can never fathom without the ears to hear.

[@toyaquiyvoyaya]

nice interpretation, It is Obvious, that it is found on another plane.

[@keithstone6349]

I'll do it again

[@marcotjn]

Too bad Roger, David, Nick and Rick did not take care of Syd, they should never have left this golden pigeon to its own devices.

[@marcotjn]

@Freedom Stillexists This is also true of course!

[@tockita]

Yeah, but I also have sympathy for 20 year-olds in the 60s without any idea about mental illness

[@LinusRedding]

While It Is A Great Thing To Go Into A Studio And Endeavor To Create A Sonically (p)erfect Album Al La "Dark Side Of The Moon". It is Also Great To Endeavor To Create An Album That Shows The Rough Edges.

[@sundarmann6167]

He is, in fact, the REAL loss to the world of music and, not to mention, Pink Floyd too.

[@Eukaliptous120120]

Why that?

[@powertuber3.047]

If Syd had stayed in the band Floyd would have remained a pop band and never transformed into what we know today....i.e. Dark Side of the Moon / Wish You Were Here, etc.

[@THEJETSETRADIOMUSIC]

PowerTuber 3.0 No,with Syd Pink Floyd did avant-garde without him they only did progressive rock and Psycodelic rock and that stuff

[@powertuber3.047]

No... at the time they were not song writers, they depended solely on Syd's pop style song writing ability... with him there they would have remained dependent on Syd.

[@zatoichimasseur6767]

Syd Made The PinKFLOyd SOUnd from the beginning and without Syd's influence and longing for their estranged leader's return: they would have never made Such masterpieces as Wish u Were Here....Darkside, the wall.....

[@RobK-ls7lp]

Super Mentors are forever....

[@_Ramen-Vac_]

Syd's "Strawberry Fields" -- really weird mid-measure key-change

[@CreeperTerminator]

1:00 is that somebody trying not to laugh

[@shakeitangelable]

Sounds like his pick on his strings to me.

[@MegaFreddie46]

I don't know but if it was so, I'd think who laughs is a big bastard! It's understood that Syd is bored of recording or something like that. He has never been understood. The others are wankers.

[@FBlackRules]

+PaulGenesis He wanted to paint it took him back to his days with Libby Gaudsen. He could only play Arnold Layne on American Bandstand x number of times.

[@dalegriffin6768]

Do u think Robert Smith of the cure was influenced by Syd

[@misterwi3716]

💪

[@asemic]

too much silence at the end

[@coldcreamnroses1038]

Why does Syd's voice reminds me of Donovan?

[@IronMaks911]

Pink Floyd unplugged

[@TheArtanimal]

At this time the poor was so terribly down, he forgot the lyrics while singing. But nethertheless, he was a very great mind.

[@7Korat]

Proto shoegaze structure . If he did add wall of distorted guitars, this composition match perfectly on loveless MBV album.