The failure of feminist Hollywood

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Sydney Watson

Sydney Watson

Күн бұрын

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@Great_Sandwich
@Great_Sandwich 2 жыл бұрын
Never forget: NOBODY had a problem with "Ellen Ripley" taking the lead in "Alien". And we're talking 1979, here. And then again in "Aliens" in 1986. She was badass, and everyone loved the character. Why? Because she wasn't there to make men look stupid and inept. She was surrounded by brave, competent characters, and fought bravely WITH them. "Ripley" is the character feminists need, but don't deserve.
@RockLeeBl
@RockLeeBl 2 жыл бұрын
And The Bride from Kill Bill, Laurie Strode from Halloween, Sarah Connor from Terminator...
@netshaman9918
@netshaman9918 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockLeeBl These are real strong women, just because they had NOT put away their feminity !
@donaldporr9682
@donaldporr9682 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Changed.User100
@Changed.User100 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@matsujonen
@matsujonen 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's mostly because those characters could also be played by men and nothing would really change.
@ariamaddison257
@ariamaddison257 2 жыл бұрын
As a woman what I find hilarious is that men have proven more capable of writing a strong female character more than these modern day female writers. All they do is insert their miserable lives into any and everything they “create.”
@AllegedlyElPresidente.
@AllegedlyElPresidente. 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
The joke has it that in order to write believable female characters the male writer takes a man and removes all reason and accountability. 😉 Seriously though, we now have a generation of writers with no life experience other then what they have learned in college AND that they have to adhere to THE RULES. As in no woman can be mentored by a man, lose to a man, be weaker then a man, be outsmarted by a man. When you lack life experience and are constrained by such stupid rules, your character building will be horrible.
@Draagreon
@Draagreon 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@charlesws7825
@charlesws7825 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: one of the best comic book writers for decades was Chris Claremont, and he's best known for his legendary run on Uncanny X-Men, New Mutants, and lots of other stuff. He wrote truly unforgettable stories involving female heroes like Storm, Kitty 'Shadowcat' Pryde, Danielle Moonstar, Xi'an Coy Manh, Rhane Sinclair, Illyana Rasputin, Betsy Braddock...basically it's a DAMN long list! He knew how to give each of those ladies a distinctive voice, and I'm pretty sure his favorite was Kitty, who was basically your ordinary Jewish-American Midwestern girl next door who happened to have the power to phase through solid matter. Dammit, I miss the days when female heroes were written by people who had imagination!
@AllegedlyElPresidente.
@AllegedlyElPresidente. 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 *Did you watch "as good as it gets 1997" with Helen Hunt and Jack Nicholson* 🤫
@AnonyBoiii
@AnonyBoiii 2 жыл бұрын
We went from Spider-Man and “with great power comes great responsibility” To She-Hulk and “saving people are for narcissists, billionaires, and adult orphans” That, in itself, is a narcissistic statement
@Batman-zd6jp
@Batman-zd6jp 2 жыл бұрын
She hulk is dumb
@hebinyao709
@hebinyao709 2 жыл бұрын
Girl has no respect for the people who fought and died to save everyone's ass.
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 2 жыл бұрын
Is there such a thing as an adult orphan? Never heard of it till now.
@rusty_shackleford2226
@rusty_shackleford2226 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdaniels3955 as far as I'm aware. Age doesn't change the fact that your parents are ded.
@AnonyBoiii
@AnonyBoiii 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickdaniels3955 there are several in fiction. Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark are two notable examples. The “narcissists, billionaires, and adult orphans” was engineered to be a direct stab at Tony Stark. As is the fad nowadays in superhero movies: make fun of what came before
@raserx63
@raserx63 7 ай бұрын
And , "Madame Web" just drove this point home with authority.
@AlexanderJWF
@AlexanderJWF 2 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone would claim that mess of a movie. Not the guy, girls, gays, or theys - a bad film is a bad film.
@amalmathewaugustine
@amalmathewaugustine Ай бұрын
That one was an absolute crap!
@cinemint
@cinemint 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you know how often I have to control my anger while men explain my field of expertise to me?" - as she loses her temper explaining Hulk's field of expertise to him
@kirkyorg7654
@kirkyorg7654 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely nailed perfect comment
@CesarEAbreu
@CesarEAbreu 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@niklasmaier2664
@niklasmaier2664 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@domri4203
@domri4203 2 жыл бұрын
While those men a part of the same profession.
@Devilninyourhead0666
@Devilninyourhead0666 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@Shrekrules471
@Shrekrules471 Жыл бұрын
“I’m an expert at controlling my anger” Jen says, angrily.
@antonstezhkin5991
@antonstezhkin5991 Жыл бұрын
😂
@kenkoy78
@kenkoy78 Жыл бұрын
“I believe that everyone is entitle to their own opinion. Just as long as it doesn’t contradict mine.”
@mamodokod
@mamodokod Жыл бұрын
RIGHT!!!!
@deandrenicholas2545
@deandrenicholas2545 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about that scene was, she talked that bullshit to Bruce fuckin Banner of all people. And then in every situation it would have benefitted her to control her anger, she throws a made for TV bitch fit. I watched it with my daughters, but my God this was a fucking double decker nothing burger. And the special sauce was made from liquid bullshit...
@weswolever7477
@weswolever7477 Жыл бұрын
While being angry 😡
@theminorgent
@theminorgent 2 жыл бұрын
"We don't need strong female characters, we need strong characters that just so happen to be female."
@DgardsGaming
@DgardsGaming 2 жыл бұрын
there have been so many good female characters in movies in past, thats whats funny about them making bads ones then blaming us men for being sexist and not liking also She Hulk in comics was a good character.
@ultimateme3049
@ultimateme3049 2 жыл бұрын
This applies to everything honestly, just write good characters Hollywood
@freshrimp9013
@freshrimp9013 2 жыл бұрын
This quote is like, a sentence long and perfectly describes how to write a good female character lol, how do so many shows and such mess it up?
@theminorgent
@theminorgent 2 жыл бұрын
@@DgardsGaming Literally my favourite Hulk from the comics, why did they have to fuck her up that badly? 😭
@muneebbasit8519
@muneebbasit8519 2 жыл бұрын
Super agreed.
@crazygermanviper
@crazygermanviper 6 ай бұрын
Imagine our kids reading what stuff we were debating back in 2024. Can't imagine that being an akward conversation
@PoopaChallupa
@PoopaChallupa Ай бұрын
These women won't have kids. And cats can't talk.
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 17 күн бұрын
Yep, this is a bizarre trend, social media put the horseshoe theory to test. I think the next trend will be focused on AI, this thing can affect society in a legit way, not only noise in the social media vacuum
@rafaelbaere1707
@rafaelbaere1707 2 жыл бұрын
“Men are too masculine, that’s toxic” Proceeds to create female characters that are extremely masculine and present that as great strong women. Say what?!?
@bownight
@bownight 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree
@jonnylake3rd
@jonnylake3rd 2 жыл бұрын
The key word to these fools is "men". They dont care if women do it.
@NewTypeDilemma01
@NewTypeDilemma01 2 жыл бұрын
Executives: "We're going to empower women! Let's make our female character a hard-drinking tomboy who acts more like a man than an actual male character." Watcher: "That's not an empowered woman. That's a man in a woman's body. It's cringe." Executives:
@Magneticlaw
@Magneticlaw 2 жыл бұрын
Under the new film making blueprint, women are also no longer allowed to be even remotely sexy - and yes, that can be achieved in a respectful way.
@sbsnate2312
@sbsnate2312 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you know that for woketards, masculinity is only good when a woman shows it and femininity is only good when a man shows it?
@endcensorship874
@endcensorship874 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing more narcissistic than having the ability to “save the world,” and then thinking “nah, MY career is so much more important.”
@insensitive919
@insensitive919 2 жыл бұрын
But that's none of my business....
@srfrg9707
@srfrg9707 2 жыл бұрын
Also it's irrational : What career is she expecting to have in a destroyed world?
@LoliconSamalik
@LoliconSamalik 2 жыл бұрын
To play devil's' advocate, she does work at a legal firm. That is still a job that saves lives when done right.
@mickeymickey9914
@mickeymickey9914 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoliconSamalik Haha not really.
@theeddytor3490
@theeddytor3490 2 жыл бұрын
i have a mix thought about it though like shang chi movie lead character ran away from being an assassin for his dad. he knew about his dad's power about ten rings. he avoided his past life to be a valet just to live simple life. one thing led to another and he had to seek his mother's tribe in forest i can't make a judgement for she-hulk yet until the series is ended.
@digitalhouse6969
@digitalhouse6969 2 жыл бұрын
Hulk: - Experimented on as a child - His father killed his mother - Turned into a monster against his will - Is a man - Captured by the government - Experimented on by the government - Involuntarily killed lot's of people without wanting to - Lived in hiding from the government for multiple years in a third-world country separated from his loved ones - Love of his life died - Unable to commit suicide because the monster within him prevents it - Got stuck on an alien planet for years - Got controlled by the monster within him while on that planet - Pressured to save the world multiple times the list goes on... She-Hulk: - Is a woman - Gets catcalled by men "I have so much more experience controlling my anger infinitely better than you!" edit 3 :if you watched the show, you will see that she is ready to kill anyone for simple reasons... she almost killed some dudes that catcalled her or 'insulted her'...
@toxxik4933
@toxxik4933 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, having men yell compliments at you (granted extremely perverted ones) definitely stacks up with hulks long often tragic backstory
@jasperzanovich2504
@jasperzanovich2504 2 жыл бұрын
The best part is that even while she says that she is obviously getting angry. Controlling your emotions is way different from bottling them up.
@PixelCortex
@PixelCortex 2 жыл бұрын
And what happened before she was able to control her anger so well? where are the hundreds of dead construction workers she inadvertently killed and carries immense guilt because of if? oh wait, she's perfect, I forgot.
@jconnor117
@jconnor117 2 жыл бұрын
Sure She-Hulk you have bounds of experience I wish I could be as strong as you. #LMAO
@lxakram
@lxakram 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@RaptorJesus.
@RaptorJesus. 10 ай бұрын
the entertainment industry has just got so lost with what makes "strong female characters" "strong female characters". they're now stuck printing out invincible unstoppable girlbosses who overpower foes twice their size... none of these obnoxious girlboss characters will be remembered in 40 years like Ripley and Sarah Connor and Leia etc, those old great strong female characters weren't considered strong because they are unstoppable, but THE EXACT OPPOSITE. they went up against opponents far stronger than themselves but didn't back down, their strength was in their character and will to carry on, spitting in the face of terrible odds.
@VoidVoic
@VoidVoic 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, facing foes far more powerful than themselves is what makes them awesome strong female characters. In the real world, many of the opponents women face (at least physically) are men, who are far stronger than women so we have to find other ways to beat them other than brute strength. These characters have to be resourceful and can’t punch their way through the problem which is what makes their victories so impactful and inspiring, and what makes them role models for so many women
@amytgt903
@amytgt903 Жыл бұрын
I miss when movies were plot-driven or character-driven instead of agenda-driven
@thebluepaladin
@thebluepaladin Жыл бұрын
oh most movies always have been but they did it subtly and entertainingly to make you agree more, today its more like HEY FUCKING AGREE WITH ME written in the script 3000 times
@salvadortoscano2534
@salvadortoscano2534 Жыл бұрын
@@thebluepaladin I mean, back then movies actually had plot and characters. I think that's what they meant
@pzmoore007
@pzmoore007 Жыл бұрын
@@thebluepaladinMost movies are agenda-driven, when someone invests millions of dollars you bet they will say whatever that person wants!
@paulskinback717
@paulskinback717 Жыл бұрын
porn has better plots these days
@MrShriven
@MrShriven Жыл бұрын
when was that. I think you are bullshiting. movies were always agenda driven
@aaronmurrayhenson9686
@aaronmurrayhenson9686 2 жыл бұрын
"It's like writers WANT people to hate female leads." Honestly, that's the thesis right there. That's the crown jewel of this whole video.
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they make them so bad that it is hard to defend their actions.
@dontgiveinfo
@dontgiveinfo 2 жыл бұрын
almost sounds like the garden of Eden hmmmmmmm
@misterl0gic
@misterl0gic 2 жыл бұрын
The trans actors are coming...
@hanzbrixx
@hanzbrixx 2 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to like them because vagina blah blah blah misogineeeeeeee!
@trainzactivist7245
@trainzactivist7245 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterl0gic Aren't trans actors just actors in general?
@someitguy2175
@someitguy2175 2 жыл бұрын
"Being gay and female doesn't fix terrible writing..." Someone should tell the White House.
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
But that is the core tenet belief of the Left now. When we have full diversity and inclusion everything will become magically better. Just like when we have true communism. This time it will work! Also, now it's just diversity and inclusion in writing. What if they start pushing for diversity and inclusion in hiring airline pilots, or brain surgeons?
@whocares110
@whocares110 2 жыл бұрын
Rofl
@DimitteIllis
@DimitteIllis 2 жыл бұрын
It's so funny cause there are examples of good writing that includes gay people, and good writing that includes feminist themes. But MODERN HOLLYWOOD has no idea how to do it.
@absolutelydisgusted3319
@absolutelydisgusted3319 2 жыл бұрын
Oh…that was good. Lol. Nailed it! 😉❤️
@roserevancroix2308
@roserevancroix2308 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the press secretary doesn't type those notes she just reads them. But yea she was hired based on the fact that she has a vagina, is black and gay. So if I am those things can I get the job as press secretary for the white house too??
@mattwilliams5368
@mattwilliams5368 7 ай бұрын
Arya Stark.Every man loved her,it showed her loose,train,loose,train finally become a killer.She wasn't perfect from the start.
@taylorelliott8824
@taylorelliott8824 Ай бұрын
My wife loved her. Was her favorites character (she HATED Sansa tho 😂😂) She would comment on how brave Arya was and that was because desperately not being the strongest, or the most badass she pushed forward and trained to become what she became. The look on my wife's face as Arya popped out of nowhere to save the day at the end was priceless... I even recorded her reaction
@nerdyfalco408
@nerdyfalco408 Ай бұрын
That's Arya Stark season 1 to 4. Season 5 to 8 Arya has too much plot armor and has basically every bad stereotypical strong female lead trait.
@lamplighter1968
@lamplighter1968 Ай бұрын
@@taylorelliott8824 there's an adage in storytelling that a hero is only as good as his villain, and the same is obviously true of heroines. But I'd like to add that a heroic figure is also only as good as their weaknesses. There can be no courage without fear. We cheered when the Millennium Falcon dropped cover fire for Luke on his attack run because Han Solo overcame his egocentric self serving nature to step up and be the hero. We cheered when Clark Kent laid out the bully truck driver because a moment of pettiness made an otherwise altruistic paragon of virtue and strength infinitely more relatable. I seem to hold the minority view here, but the selfishness of wanting her loved one so badly that she was willing to disregard the fact that a presumably innocent man would be stripped of his future in Wonder Woman 1984 made Diana seem far more human. Giving him up and sacrificing her own happiness to save others is what made her a heroine to be admired and celebrated.
@chrissearle6176
@chrissearle6176 Ай бұрын
Arya was great because she was writing as Arya, same as wonder women was. Most other strong female characters are written as great men & then adapted to be female, & any preexisting female character are played by a, LBTGQ or ethnic minority, rather than the best actress to suit them roles. I hate this woke era for destroying a lot of characters. & I can't understand why females or +++ can't write there own stories & characters. It would be nice to see some originality, there's enough remakes without adding a female version, some things just don't translate, can you imagine broke back mountain, the straight version hahaha
@lamplighter1968
@lamplighter1968 Ай бұрын
@@chrissearle6176 You make a very interesting point. These woketards seem to be all for race swapping, gender swapping, etc, but would even they think it was a good idea to make a Black Lightning film with Tom Cruise in the lead role? They'd probably be ok with seeing a woman play Black Panther, but not a white woman.
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 2 жыл бұрын
I vote for a female hero who does hero things: struggles against difficulty, deals with losses and setbacks, learns and evolves, and who has the strength of character to do what needs to be done, while dealing with it all as a woman- which is NOT the same as a man. Men would find her intriguing, and women, hopefully, inspiring. I always felt that Sarah Connor's descent into near-madness and violent behavior was believable as her intent to protect her son at all costs, as a mother naturally would. The biceps were only a plus.
@ThirdPointInLine
@ThirdPointInLine 2 жыл бұрын
So like Buffy basically :P
@WhatAHorribleNight
@WhatAHorribleNight 2 жыл бұрын
I recall appreciating the 2015 Tomb Raider video game reboot for this reason. They had Lara Croft show some genuine vulnerability - self-doubt, father hunger, fear for her life, etc. I usually can't relate to female action characters because they're all like "Me Stronk Wahman!", but that depiction of Lara Croft was something to which I could relate.
@johnwest1823
@johnwest1823 2 жыл бұрын
No Fate
@celladoor_uk
@celladoor_uk 2 жыл бұрын
Well said man.
@jarrensmith1060
@jarrensmith1060 2 жыл бұрын
Watch prey. The new predator it's like anti woke, the lead female character couldn't even hunt animals but when she started putting herself and her brother and dog at the same level. Instead of rising above them she rose to their same level then once she realized it her and her dog tore the predator apart. The female had like 'woke' tendencies but when they dropped those values she exploded in capabilities.
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 Жыл бұрын
The problem actually IS that women don't have any strong female characters in movies anymore; instead they have perfect, infallible characters, that they cannot relate to. Characters whose only fault is that they have an ego-driven hatred of men, which they pretend is a redeeming quality
@shilohbrutalis582
@shilohbrutalis582 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 Жыл бұрын
@@shilohbrutalis582 ty
@weswolever7477
@weswolever7477 Жыл бұрын
If the character is perfect, why cheer for them?
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 Жыл бұрын
@@weswolever7477 Yup good point, what are they overcoming...nothing
@jkenzienye3732
@jkenzienye3732 Жыл бұрын
We don't have women characters, but women excelling at toxic masculinity
@kelvinle8662
@kelvinle8662 2 жыл бұрын
That moment when an adult is less responsible than a high school student who accidently got superpowers from being bitten by a radioactive spider.
@colleenross8752
@colleenross8752 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the MCU universe respect Okoye? Not because she's a woman who demands we respect her. It's because she's a warrior who is loyal to her king and her friends and will fight to the death for them, and she's a woman.
@yajurojha8200
@yajurojha8200 2 жыл бұрын
Peters the gold standard only spider totems are that responsible
@aaronlimeuchin7352
@aaronlimeuchin7352 Жыл бұрын
Kevin Le I dropped the movie once she utter that line, "The Avengers is for billionaires, narcissistics, and war orphans." I know the Avengers are fictional heroes and people, but watching their characters progress and develop through every movie from "narcissistics, billionaires, and war orphans" into better people who help change the world to a better place kind of make me want to be like them (not the superhero abilities). In the end of the day, I may not be a superhero like Hulk, or Thor or Dr Strange, but at least, I can play my part as better human being to help people. Then, out of nowhere you have a movie like She-Hulk where you have a nobody character who is downright narcissistic and typical victim behaviour downplay those characters progression like as if their efforts in Avengers Endgame worth nothing at all.
@orionwolf7393
@orionwolf7393 Жыл бұрын
@@colleenross8752 thank you! Okoye is so underrated, she is such a strong and amazing female character.
@themonsterlegendsbros1263
@themonsterlegendsbros1263 Жыл бұрын
@@orionwolf7393 I have no clue what okoye is
@megamind1311
@megamind1311 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for an excellent article, great to see a woman setting the record straight on issues that men are becoming increasingly uncomfortable about addressing, thanks to this insanity in Hollywood and Disney.
@mrshamster4077
@mrshamster4077 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever a woman tells us how strong and empowered she is it sounds like she is trying to convince herself 😆
@renaldsunset
@renaldsunset Жыл бұрын
Well actually she is 😅
@overvault
@overvault Жыл бұрын
@@user-hq4bj8fy2b so it is funny for you to see an insecure women? sick mentality
@sithijasampath6884
@sithijasampath6884 Жыл бұрын
@@overvault yes actually I love to see insecure women.
@davidjr4903
@davidjr4903 Жыл бұрын
@@overvault it's hilarious
@myplaylist7007
@myplaylist7007 Жыл бұрын
Women: I am more stronger because i have to deal with [ This ] Me: * Tunes woman out and walks away *
@boxymccutter9623
@boxymccutter9623 Жыл бұрын
"Is there anything more depressing than dating in your 30s?" Watching all your friends die. Having several near death experiences. Slowly dying of poison. Being turned into a weapon. Seeing your home get destroyed. Witnessing your brother getting strangled to death. Watching your husband sacrifice himself. Your family getting torn apart.
@frpgplayer
@frpgplayer Жыл бұрын
Having too many to choose from and they're all happy if you choose them all.
@wejuggernautentertainmentl3156
@wejuggernautentertainmentl3156 Жыл бұрын
In a nutshell
@akodaah13-e32
@akodaah13-e32 Жыл бұрын
Doctor who: your society is just early English aristocrats, you rin away from your home planet, your absolute best friend of all time becomes insane and hates you now, you commit genocide in order to save the universe, you are now alone in the universe, your female romantic interest gets trapped in another dimension, you have to wipe ur friends memory or she dies, you forced a woman to commit suicide because you became crazy with power, your own ppl trappes you in a torture chamber for 4.5 BILLION years... And the list keeps going and going
@chaberio1335
@chaberio1335 Жыл бұрын
So, you're saying your currently dating? lol
@peppergirlrocks
@peppergirlrocks Жыл бұрын
there's nothing depressing about dating in your 30s., 40s, 50s etc. why is this an issue to some people? This is just petty. Just like some of these lame movie plots where the mc kept bombarding us with woke ideology.
@anom5389
@anom5389 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it hilariously ironic how in Hollywood’s relentless effort to destroy stereotypes, what they actually did was replace them with new stereotypes?
@Tony-.
@Tony-. Жыл бұрын
It's may be exciting to watch how real-life stereotypes be challenged. Watching some stereotypes fight other stereotypes is some kind of trash movie. Except in satire, it's a waste of time.
@threadtapwhisperer5136
@threadtapwhisperer5136 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say they managed to replace them yet. They have straight up made themselves look incompetent, as well as their attempted female leads. If anything, they have alienated all but the small minded writers/directors/whatever that engage in "woke" ideology. When the trailers just ooze cringe far before the release of a movie, I'd say the female leads haven't replaced shit. Thank fuck for that.
@RichardA.-yi5sz
@RichardA.-yi5sz Жыл бұрын
Of course. There's a reason it's called show business. It's designed to make money. It's why they had such strict rules on what content movies & TV could have for decades, which have now been replaced with new patterns. It's why they lean left on most political issues and still make lots of movies about guns (which they euphemistically call "action movies" when they're really revenge fantasies) despite several studies showing they're a factor in mass shootings. Like social media, show business exists for only one reason, M O N E Y, as in "show me the." And like the gun manufacturers, none of them care about their markets except what they can get out of them.
@QuesoGr7
@QuesoGr7 Жыл бұрын
It's like the "human colorwheel" form Community. Tried so hard to not be racist that "Trying hard not to be racist is the new racism" lol
@Tony-.
@Tony-. 11 ай бұрын
@@QuesoGr7 Despite all its fame, the series is underrated)
@astronomyfan8145
@astronomyfan8145 8 ай бұрын
The writing is the problem, not the genders. The writing has to be corrected and better.
@leannwebb1762
@leannwebb1762 2 жыл бұрын
My problem with these is that they go out of their way to make all men look creepy and with no redeeming qualities. Tearing others down to make yourself look good is the laziest way to promote yourself. It's possible to be a strong woman without hating men.
@bbwng54
@bbwng54 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@joannaholden943
@joannaholden943 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Why can't we have movies and shows where male and female characters actually respect each other?
@freakish5827
@freakish5827 2 жыл бұрын
@@joannaholden943 here my good sir/madam, you accidentally dropped your medal
@Dragonage2ftw
@Dragonage2ftw 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t, but ok.
@martinportelance138
@martinportelance138 2 жыл бұрын
Having 'free' powers instead of earning them the hard way, wanting priviledges without any sacrifice, irrational hatreds about superficial traits, treating everything that doesn't go their ways as micro-aggressions, doesn't take any responsabilities... That's the exact definition of a classic super-vilain... But they are actually role models. Crazy days huh.
@you1027
@you1027 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing says "strong character" like needing to emasculate everything else in a 10 mile radius. "Back in the day," strong characters - male and female - were surrounded by other strong figures who all reverberated off of one another - it was a positive feedback loop that showcased their strengths - and one rose to the top in the end. The clowns of woketown think they can achieve the same "victory" spectacle by injecting a forced superficial power disparity. Unsurprising, coming from a crowd that only ever concerns themselves with the ends and not the means, and completely loses the plot.
@Leanzazzy
@Leanzazzy 2 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. Being a strong character in today's movies usually means tearing down or belittling others, usually men.
@Ulrich_von_Jungingen
@Ulrich_von_Jungingen 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Indiana Jones explaining why he became an archaeologist adventurer "women treat me like a doormat, friendzone me, cheat on me". The whole victim narrative weakens the main character, massively reducing the connection. I think people intrinsically like those who rise above the struggle, not wallow in it.
@azrik6084
@azrik6084 Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with the Mulan remake was that it completely missed the point of the original story. The thing that made Mulans story empowering was that she was just a normal woman that accompanied incredible things. If you make her a chosen one. That means she only accompanied those things because she is unique.
@Handepsilon
@Handepsilon Жыл бұрын
I like the first Disney Mulan. Despite it centering on prejudice, identity issues and status quo, it doesn't hammer us down with absolute morality and still manages to give us a strong lead character, one that feels earned and not by sacrificing what makes a good character and also without sacrificing the dominantly male side characters, for the most part, although I do appreciate how their problems with her mostly stems from her deceiving them and never discredited her for turning out to be a woman. There's only one guy, but he's a jerk to everyone and an emperor bootlicker anyways
@azrik6084
@azrik6084 Жыл бұрын
@@Handepsilon I loved the original Mulan movie. The remake kinda missed the point though.
@Handepsilon
@Handepsilon Жыл бұрын
@@azrik6084 everyone in my family loved it, especially my mom and my sis. They'd spend evenings singing Reflection and Mom even had it as a ringtone once upon a time. She was quite disappointed with the remake, saying that Mulan was too perfect there (I think).
@azrik6084
@azrik6084 Жыл бұрын
@@Handepsilon and your free to enjoy whatever content you wish. That doesn't change what I said though.
@Handepsilon
@Handepsilon Жыл бұрын
@@azrik6084 Oh I meant the first Disney one, to clarify. There are only two versions of Mulan that I watched. The animated Disney one... and that version in Chinese that focuses more on the traumatic effects of war and death Never watched the remake myself. Considering the direction the live action remakes are going, I honestly don't see myself going to. The Aladdin one is uh... ehm, kinda sorta decent I guess.
@markdevant32
@markdevant32 10 ай бұрын
You nail it. I love the Hollywood elite who think no strong woman ever made a movie before. They clearly never watch Kathrine Hepburn, Mae West, Audrey Hepburn, or Lauren Bacall in a movie. There have been strong women characters in film throughout history. The difference is those characters were the result of talented writers who could flush out the characters strength not the hacks writing in Hollywood today.
@limeylime8027
@limeylime8027 2 ай бұрын
And now women have never been weaker on film lmaooooo
@ronald220964
@ronald220964 Ай бұрын
Agree Hepburn in African queen ooh no she was white.
@HobbitDD
@HobbitDD Жыл бұрын
They seriously give her the tag line, "Saving the world is for narcissists," and she refuses to be a superhero because she's pursuing narcissistic goals like dating and a career.... WELL DONE!
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe Жыл бұрын
It's also funny how those lines end up implying that saving the world isn't important.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
I would expect this level of cringe and overdrama from Indian TV serials, not from marvel who has produced like the most successful franchise of all time. Complete 💩
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 Жыл бұрын
Its like the difference between capt marval and capt america. One is motivated by self sacrifice, the other is motivated by self validation.
@dragonsyph2557
@dragonsyph2557 Жыл бұрын
Just the leftist modo, "hypocrisy"
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabisnass1141 And also, one is a man (good) and one is a woman (bad). You're probably from the school of "Women should be seen and not heard".
@bearhall4919
@bearhall4919 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to take a moment to appreciate Scarlett Johanson and The Black Widow. Here is a character with real depth, whos abilities come from a lifetime of forced training, who has really messed up baggage, and who sacrifices herself in the end... played by a woman who actually said that her job was to act, not promote politics.
@afailable
@afailable 2 жыл бұрын
I always felt releasing Captain Marvel before the Black Widow movie was the end of Marvel for me... Pushing bullshit instead of giving one of their best characters a stand alone before they died on screen said everything I needed to know
@rainestar82
@rainestar82 2 жыл бұрын
its never good enough for those people though. I remember when her backstory/movie got fully announced, people started throwing a fit that this was "yet another woman whos backstory was sexual/emotional trauma" like she wasnt a trained killer and hadnt said so herself in the films... everythings a stereotype and nothings good enough for the people who constantly complain
@michaelquaid4679
@michaelquaid4679 2 жыл бұрын
Right, at least for most of the first phase of the MCU they stay true to the spirit of who Black widow is. I think they kind of screwed up her legacy a bit with that extremely late movie of hers. But I digress..
@michaelquaid4679
@michaelquaid4679 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainestar82 although I would not agree with those people's assessment... It's completely UNDERSTANDABLE that at the time they thought it would turn out terrible and were shell-shocked from all the wokie political feminist push crap that came our way over the last decade
@yup486
@yup486 2 жыл бұрын
Who was then ruined in a prequel movie that forgot who her character was or what her powers and abilites were. Made her play second fiddle to an EVEN MOAR POWERFUL version of the same character. Played by a woman who went out and made a bunch of dense fucking political statements to promote said movie.
@Shoe0nHead
@Shoe0nHead 2 жыл бұрын
this was so fucking good. literally every thought i’ve had about this “strong girlboss hero” shit for years put in words. thank you!
@nil981
@nil981 2 жыл бұрын
As a guy I can confidently say that girl bosses are not attractive to men.
@VirginMostPowerfull
@VirginMostPowerfull 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah girl bosses are good for 10min kink while you ready the belt to get to the real kink, not for 24h 7 days a week everyday life.
@akshy471
@akshy471 2 жыл бұрын
Atomic blonde is the best female spy movie ever made.
@Lamren
@Lamren 2 жыл бұрын
@@nil981 They are, but the way those hollywood wastes made it is akin to vegetarians constantly reminding you that they're vegetarians and how much better they are than you, but instead of being veggie they're women. It's so... Forced down your throat for seemingly no reason. Ripley in Alien still is one of my favorite female characters, and her gender is barely ever brought up.
@donspafford414
@donspafford414 2 жыл бұрын
@@akshy471 you’re entitled to your wrong opinion, clearly the best is The Long Kiss Goodnight...
@andrewtintle2857
@andrewtintle2857 10 ай бұрын
I’m addition to the other great female leads mentioned, I would add that Jodie Foster was incredible in Silence of the Lambs and Contact. Rewatched these recently and I was really blown away at how really great she was.
@ADMTyRenn
@ADMTyRenn 10 ай бұрын
And Flightplan and Panic Room.
@LexingtonDeville984
@LexingtonDeville984 3 ай бұрын
@@WilliamLyons-ym7eeFoster and Hopkins had amazing chemistry together. And her character development through Silence was flawlessly executed. When we are first introduced to Clarice Starling, she’s naive; inexperienced and dealing with childhood traumas, but by the finale, she finds Buffalo Bill’s hideout and takes him down all by herself. That alone is a badass female right there.
@dragonlyra
@dragonlyra Жыл бұрын
George R R Martin always comes to mind in cases like these. An interviewer once asked him how he can write such well-developed and complex female characters, and he answered 'well, I tend to think of women as... well, people' When characters are believable as people and they aren't just a cardboard cutout of an ideology then they work.
@158-i6z
@158-i6z Жыл бұрын
Great example.
@kyucklebeans
@kyucklebeans Жыл бұрын
I thought he might have replied with “I just think of a man, then take away reason and accountability.” Lol
@wordforger
@wordforger Жыл бұрын
Right? He has all manner of compelling, powerful female characters playing out, each with their own particular strengths and weaknesses. Some excel in soft power and 'feminine' spheres, some take on more stereotypically 'masculine' roles, but no matter what they each have an important place in the plot and are rather compelling for their own reasons. It irks me so MUCH when Hollywood decides women aren't allowed to have flaws.
@glenmcdonald375
@glenmcdonald375 Жыл бұрын
​@@kyucklebeansthat's a Jack quote from "as good as it gets"
@kyucklebeans
@kyucklebeans Жыл бұрын
@@glenmcdonald375 Nailed it
@cassadeemaywong
@cassadeemaywong 2 жыл бұрын
it bugs me so much that Jen constantly has to say "I've had it worse" when Bruce was genuinely trying to help her and offer advice as somebody who has been through similar situations. but Jen has to stroke her ego constantly and be like yeh my genes are better and you men don't understand. even the end credits are weird too. why do you have to rub it in our faces that Jen is "stronger than the dudes"? she can be strong without being compared to men. and frankly in the show, there aren't many assholes who are showing shit behaviors to Jen simply become she's a woman. This is just wokeass victim mentality that we do not need.
@POIUYTREWQ62
@POIUYTREWQ62 2 жыл бұрын
I may not be a psychologist, but I would assume someone who says stuff like "I have it worse" or anything else that devalues someone else experience (Even if put in a way that sounds like they aren't i.e. "It isn't like I am saying you are wrong, but.....") is known as a toxic person.
@tebbydear90
@tebbydear90 2 жыл бұрын
@@POIUYTREWQ62 you could also say that they're annoying to be around. toxic or not, nobody likes someone who constantly 'one-ups' everyone else. She-hulk's just not a likable character for any normal person, male or female.
@evgeniazotova959
@evgeniazotova959 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she was super toxic and rude 😭 Couldn’t watch it past first episode, and barely made it till the end
@HAThat2000
@HAThat2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@evgeniazotova959 feminst not good She love Bad boy and bad guy
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
It is a natural outgrowth of applying THE RULES (ominous Critical Drinker voice) to writing Jen's character. And the rules, as formulated by the woke Roddenberry foundation, state when you write a female character no man can mentor a woman, no man can be stronger then a woman, no man can defeat a woman, no man can outsmart a woman, and another one I can't remember. Constrained by such rules that's how you get female characters like Jen. Or when you have a story where you have a male hero vs a female villain, you know she's going to defeat herself. (cough Dr. Strange 2, Star Wars Kenobi, cough). Woke story telling is horrible and predictable.
@DarkPhoenixSaga
@DarkPhoenixSaga Жыл бұрын
Kill Bill was full of women who kick ass, but it also showed the main character the Bride getting beat at times like getting shot in face, getting almost killed by Gogo the teenage bodyguard , getting shot again then buried. She wasn't always the winner, she was weak at times, she was more human. I miss that type of strong female character.
@811chelseafc
@811chelseafc Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Her strongest trait was her perseverance. Her ability to get up when kicked down when most would just stay down. She doesn’t win because she’s some unstoppable force of nature. She wins because she doesn’t give up. THAT’S a lesson that everyone (not just women) can take away from those masterpieces.
@dragnar12
@dragnar12 Жыл бұрын
The best male lead movies are like that to. Funny how that works right
@NiRvAnA6890
@NiRvAnA6890 Жыл бұрын
Yeah bro I miss it when women would just stay in the kitchen all day too.
@billcarpenter5615
@billcarpenter5615 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I loved the Kill Bill series and the women in that were strong characters but they were not trying to shove some ideology down our throats and the movies were actually entertaining.
@enosiyomilewau6797
@enosiyomilewau6797 Жыл бұрын
And they have the audacity to say that Men are so sexist we can't stand a strong female character🤦🏾‍♂️
@g3n1983
@g3n1983 10 ай бұрын
Agree with you 500% !!!!!! and as a mom of a 10 year old son it makes sad for the way men are being portrayed. As a family we tend to watch movies from previous decades since they are far better in all aspects. Woke and feminist Hollywood have ruined television and movies. It’s like the Peppa Pig vs Bluey debate. Bluey is fantastic and loved around the world by parents and children as it represents both parents beautifully without putting the other down. If you haven’t seen Bluey as a kids cartoon-do!
@mikoraud
@mikoraud 2 жыл бұрын
"The box office doesn't lie. Even if Screen Rants does." This line alone made clicking the thumbs up worth it.
@shawncollard623
@shawncollard623 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing screen rant does well is pitch meetings and those are gone to
@Donegal62
@Donegal62 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawncollard623 Pitch Meeting is not gone. Ryan moved it to it's own channel.
@Gundam4
@Gundam4 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@megapunchboy
@megapunchboy 2 жыл бұрын
Winning comment
@Blackhawks19_xx
@Blackhawks19_xx 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m great at controlling my anger” *proceeds to get angry and emotional while describing how she’s great at controlling her anger*
@prajeeshprasannakumar
@prajeeshprasannakumar 2 жыл бұрын
No she is not better in controlling anger, She is better controlling Hulk. Once Hulk is out, Bruce can't bind him @RedGeraniumWolf just like the scene you mentioned In Avengers, When Tony meet Bruce, Tony poke Bruce with something to check other guy comes out or not and this seen show how much he have control over his emotions.
@mandarinandthetenrings2201
@mandarinandthetenrings2201 2 жыл бұрын
She Hulk trolls all the trolls like you in this episode. "I'm a New York 10, and LA 11". LOL ahahahahahaha 🤣
@charlien6123
@charlien6123 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a womanchild in a night shell
@brentsobie3977
@brentsobie3977 2 жыл бұрын
@Dragongamer 7 You're not being serious??? I think you're misunderstanding the terms "troublesome" and "trivial".
@jasonsimmonds3664
@jasonsimmonds3664 Жыл бұрын
I honestly enjoyed the first Wonder Woman movie, with Gal Gadot in it. I love the scene where her boyfriend said "You did it!" and she said "No... We did it!" Men & women working together as a team... no political BS. Each character playing to their personal strengths in that movie. Just like in Man of Steel.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
That's exactly how good characters should be written, but if you ask marvel, the first step to make women strong is to make men weak. Goes on to show how good of a writer you are.
@jasonsimmonds3664
@jasonsimmonds3664 Жыл бұрын
Disney Channel & Disney+ must share the same writers as Marvel lately. It just seems like they're on some sort of toxic-feminist kick or something. I love intelligently written, strong, and/or very smart female characters & male characters... instead of politically driven nonsense.
@dragonsyph2557
@dragonsyph2557 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and NOT like 99% of all "girl bosses" Wonder Woman actually trained for a LONG time and grew into the badass she is over a life of perseverance.
@jasonsimmonds3664
@jasonsimmonds3664 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I love watching men and women characters, actually work there way into becoming amazing and powerful. It's kinda boring when they already have it all together and are powerful just because. Good character development makes all the difference to me. Then, I actually start to care what happens to them.
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 Жыл бұрын
That has little to do with anything. For one thing, the entire HISTORY of cinema has been to make men seem strong by making women seem weak. Thats the whole damsel in distress thing thats been in about 75% of ALL movies. Women 'need to be saved'. When its reversed in a FEW cases then suddenly people lose their shit and its oh my god this is politics. The entire HISTORY of cinema is political. People liked the first wonder woman because she was properly girly and deferential to a human male who was a million times weaker, but who still saves at the end. The MAIN difference with Captain Marvel and other Marvel heroes is that the story was plot driven, not character driven. If you took out maybe four scenes and replaced them with a man, the character would be identical. It was obviously a corporate choice not to spend three quarters of the movie leading up to her powers, oh wait, they DID do that. People have no trouble accepting Superman or Black Adam as just inherently strong, but when CM came along SOME poeple lost it, it still made more money than most marvel movies after it.
@keatonpower9043
@keatonpower9043 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Just thank you. From the bottom of my heart, as someone who has been looking forward to seeing good live action versions of all these various characters, it's been hard to watch all this bad writing seemingly forced into existence ruining great stories that are getting their one shot to be done properly. Couldn't have said it any better than what you've put together here.
@polishprince47
@polishprince47 2 жыл бұрын
Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast. - Ron Burgundy.
@davidalexander9240
@davidalexander9240 2 жыл бұрын
It did didn’t it
@andysalter7192
@andysalter7192 2 жыл бұрын
Baxter ate a whole wheel of cheese.
@POIUYTREWQ62
@POIUYTREWQ62 2 жыл бұрын
@@andysalter7192 Crap went from 0 to 100 real quick.
@philyeary8809
@philyeary8809 2 жыл бұрын
I love lamp.
@DanielleThompson23
@DanielleThompson23 2 жыл бұрын
Re: the 2017 Wonder Woman: When asked about making a "great female superhero movie" Director Patty Jenkins said something along the lines of "We didn't set out to make a great female superhero movie, we set out to make a great superhero movie where the lead happened to be female."
@eziop5539
@eziop5539 2 жыл бұрын
Shame about WW1984
@kingp1n817
@kingp1n817 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the movie and the story, but let's be honest, Gal Gadot was like in a photoshoot pose every second of the movie😑
@denkerbosu3551
@denkerbosu3551 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingp1n817 That's the least of my concerns honestly. I find it funny when I notice, but otherwise, it's really not a -_- fail lmao.
@LanMandragon1720
@LanMandragon1720 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingp1n817 Wonder Woman being super fine is cannon though? She's supposed to be the ultimate female,smart,hot,strong,etc. So I don't understand your complaint here,care to elaborate?
@totomen666
@totomen666 2 жыл бұрын
But 2nd movie undone all good that was done in first movie, i mean who wants fight naked cat lady who not even Catwoman, Steve why do you can't stay alive for 30 min - dying each time before sex scene... no happy end for love birds.
@TheAaronFerreira
@TheAaronFerreira 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the fact that She Hulk bragged about being able to keep her emotions in check while getting cat called, after previously showing her lose her shit just 10 minutes earlier over getting cat called.
@Guardian582
@Guardian582 2 жыл бұрын
i dont even remember the guys saying anything that bad other than, "are you ok?" and such
@blowfish1702
@blowfish1702 2 жыл бұрын
Then setting her phone background as Captain Americas ass, while moaning about objectification.
@HarrowKrodarius
@HarrowKrodarius 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guardian582 this is true so it's even worse she can't keep her emotions in check at all in this case
@stub4958
@stub4958 2 жыл бұрын
She couldn't even keep her emotions in check while talking to Hulk about it.
@MasterIceyy
@MasterIceyy 2 жыл бұрын
tbf that's pretty inline with how women act, they say one thing yet do another
@roderickflint1330
@roderickflint1330 8 ай бұрын
Glad to see that more and more people are aware of what they watch.
@d.columbia9603
@d.columbia9603 Жыл бұрын
I feel like many strong female characters are just written as Gaston. Strong, arrogant, conpletely unaware of how they negatively impact those around them, condescending, petty and generally bullies. So they write female leads effectively as bland generic villians and wonder why people dont like the character
@zanmatoshin877
@zanmatoshin877 Жыл бұрын
Nicely put👍
@Patson20
@Patson20 11 ай бұрын
Literally all strong female characters now are is every trait they say is toxic masculinity but crammed into a body that has a vagina.
@Slla-th5vt
@Slla-th5vt 11 ай бұрын
I find it even more funny that those characteristics are recognized as bullies on a female but regarded as charismatic in a man. "Strong, arrogant, unaware of the negative impact around them, condescending and petty". Pretty much described Ironman.
@Patson20
@Patson20 11 ай бұрын
@Slla-th5vt literally the entire reason Tony stark became iron man was he realized the negative impact he was causing. And after that he was no less charismatic. You literally just took 4 character traits and a state of being then crammed them together and said this is another character trait. And you still managed to miss what charisma is. The most charismatic people either care about others or atleast make people think they do, if they came off as arrogant Condescending or petty they wouldn't be charismatic. But nice projection there bud.
@Slla-th5vt
@Slla-th5vt 11 ай бұрын
@@Patson20 really. I didn't see Tony Stark being any more responsible until Civil War. But he is such a favourite since his first solo movie. Want to count how many movies until he grow some empathy and conscience? Also, same thing with the Star Lord. Arrogant and condescending and petty. Yet audiences love his weepy daddy and girlfriend issues.
@arcontez9327
@arcontez9327 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most striking contradictions of feminism is how hard it criticise that so-called "toxic masculinity" and then go to the extreme to portray female action characters that have EXACTLY all those toxic traits they supposedly hate so much.
@random.3665
@random.3665 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda gives you a little peak inside their thought process though: Since they perceive men as dominating and irritatingly aggressive, and women to be the victims of it, the only way (in their mind) for a woman to NOT be a victim is by becoming one of the victimizers. Its a really black and white world view, which is ironically promoted by people who want to be inclusive^^.
@elizabethanthony3916
@elizabethanthony3916 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on! 😁👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
@charlesws7825
@charlesws7825 2 жыл бұрын
It's not difficult to see that contradiction in neo-feminists: they loathe men yet want to be like them, or better to say, they'd love to have all of the so-called 'priveleges' men have...and they even go to the extreme of jumping at the chance to invite biological men who identify as women but clearly aren't (cough, Lia Thomas, cough) into the sisterhood. It's like they basically want to break the ideal of femininity.
@charlesws7825
@charlesws7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@random.3665 They SAY they're 'inclusive' when they're really selfish little children. That's basically all there is to it.
@rodiusmaximus
@rodiusmaximus 2 жыл бұрын
add to that that despite disliking toxically masculine men, they still aren't attracted to short nerds or artistic types.
@shubhankarjayee604
@shubhankarjayee604 2 жыл бұрын
It was such a heartbreaking moment when Banner said in Avengers "I know, I tried. I got low, didn't see an end. So I put a bullet in my mouth." It shows how much Bruce has struggled his whole life.
@user-kj3ji5tp1v
@user-kj3ji5tp1v 2 жыл бұрын
*FOR ASSISTANCE OFFER’S,*
@xxtoptankxx6873
@xxtoptankxx6873 2 жыл бұрын
You know Bruce has had it worse when Bruce wanted to commit suicide and Jen can “control” her motions.
@betochiwas
@betochiwas 2 жыл бұрын
And if you haven't seen it this scene plays with Norton's Hulk
@marcoc2706
@marcoc2706 Ай бұрын
It's like they desperately want that so-called "toxic masculinity" in their female leads.
@tomblewomble3369
@tomblewomble3369 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, Ripley and Sarah Connor are examples of perfect female leads that are believable, tough and not even slightly anti-male.
@theepicracer1214
@theepicracer1214 Жыл бұрын
thats until dark fate came along. terrible movie
@jongilbertson2106
@jongilbertson2106 Жыл бұрын
Ripley and Sarah Conner never felt it necessary to tell people how strong they were or how bad they, and hence all women, have it.
@tomblewomble3369
@tomblewomble3369 Жыл бұрын
@@jongilbertson2106 Exactly, they also didn't claim superiority to, or villainise, men.
@rockinbells8351
@rockinbells8351 Жыл бұрын
I grew up watching the 90's cartoon version of she hulk and that was heads over heels better then the more modern version. And don't get me started on Catwoman.
@marisapanzarin2910
@marisapanzarin2910 Жыл бұрын
Sarah connor the original actor was great i loved her she was strong bad ass protected her son her son had her back, when he realised she wasnt lying about the terminators being real of course and they both worked together the love for her dead husband was beautiful she still imagined him guiding her steps the whole way telling her shes a solider keep going i loved terminator 2
@cybtb
@cybtb Жыл бұрын
You've nailed it. I'll never understand why success for Hollywood is a woman acting like a man while simultaneously disparaging a man who is acting feminine... There are too many layers of irony for me to even verbalize it properly.
@MASO204
@MASO204 Жыл бұрын
You did a great job totally agree
@joelplatt3396
@joelplatt3396 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂 Simply fantastic remark my friend!
@Ebstarrunner
@Ebstarrunner Жыл бұрын
While also acting like a man acting that way is systemically bad.. It's weird that it's empowering for a woman to be as toxic as a man...
@shenanigansofmannanan
@shenanigansofmannanan Жыл бұрын
Agreed...it's not just hypocrisy...it's tone deaf hypocrisy on their part.....
@davidsavage2158
@davidsavage2158 Жыл бұрын
Who is getting disparaged? What man is getting disparaged? Please tell me?
@ndrocca
@ndrocca 2 жыл бұрын
A reminder about Bruce Banner, in the first movie, he admits to trying to kill himself and being unable to because of the other guy. I want you to imagine hitting a point where you want to kill yourself and discovering that you physically can’t. That sounds like hell.
@nathanbeverley247
@nathanbeverley247 2 жыл бұрын
But let us never forget that things are INFINITELY harder for She-Hulk.
@NightShadow-em7gw
@NightShadow-em7gw 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the thing that really hits my gut. I'm a women. I can see and feel the problems a woman goes through. But Bruce Banner. THE. HULK. Who spend 15 years of his life IN FEAR. In fear of killing the ones he loved, of being called a monster. And tbh, have depression BECAUSE of the loneliness he had to deal with as he hid. Not because he's a coward, but because he can't control Hulk! Oh but She-hulk? Oh yes you get bullied at work cause you're a woman yes that sure you can handle in just one day she knows Waaaay more than Bruce (yeah that last bit is sarcasm) Edit: Yeah i fixed Bruce Banner. My keyboard apparently wanted to take brunch
@alexeynemuronov
@alexeynemuronov 2 жыл бұрын
But being catcalled is worst... right?
@Julien-Limosino-87
@Julien-Limosino-87 2 жыл бұрын
@@NightShadow-em7gw he also lost a lover when Natasha sacrified to help the Avengers to fix the situation
@NightShadow-em7gw
@NightShadow-em7gw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Julien-Limosino-87 yo you're right! Damn that makes things worse! Q-Q
@mr_blue8208
@mr_blue8208 10 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT review and analisys of whats been going on!!! Thanks for putting this out there.
@bjc9520
@bjc9520 2 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee: With great power comes great responsibility. Jessica Gao: Nah, we aren't going to do that.
@alomaralsulaiman6501
@alomaralsulaiman6501 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, that's what uncle bean said.
@idkuhhhhhhhhh
@idkuhhhhhhhhh 2 жыл бұрын
@@alomaralsulaiman6501 uncle bean😭😭
@pressstart8738
@pressstart8738 2 жыл бұрын
@@alomaralsulaiman6501 im dead
@fyrestorme
@fyrestorme Жыл бұрын
more like: Stan Lee: With great power comes great responsibility. Jessica Gao: STOP MANSPLAINING
@tadantandadan9107
@tadantandadan9107 Жыл бұрын
@@pressstart8738 no...but uncle ben is.
@frocat5163
@frocat5163 2 жыл бұрын
I find it incredibly ironic that the only way these writers are able to write "strong female characters" is by...giving them toxic masculinity.
@latinafortruth430
@latinafortruth430 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man I saw these trailers and couldnt believe what I was hearing/seeing. Every women lead character was so toxic and ironically in the exact way woke-Feminists characterise as "masculine". It's like hollywood is doing an excessive parody on the exact ideology they have adopted. And the most depressing thing is that so many leftists JUST EAT IT UP LIKE PUDDING. Leftists should be the most offended by these movies, since they slander their ideology.
@anyazendyajoy3388
@anyazendyajoy3388 2 жыл бұрын
its the same in real life though lol I've met 1,000s of women over the past decade who mimic all the toxic behaviors of the men that hurt or abused them in some way in the past... this is the way of empowerment? To become like men?
@davidrustylouis6818
@davidrustylouis6818 2 жыл бұрын
"toxic masculinity"
@beanybabyrabie
@beanybabyrabie 2 жыл бұрын
Except WORSE
@malcolmtas5601
@malcolmtas5601 2 жыл бұрын
In the 1960s there was a British TV series called "The Avengers", starring a pair of secret agents. The man was Steed, who were a suit and bowler hat, and was the archetypical English gentleman. The other was Emma Peel, who could handle a gun like the best of them, and was certainly someone you'd want to have around when you were in a tight fix - but she was also very feminine. A woman doesn't have to be masculine to be "strong".
@DeidreL9
@DeidreL9 2 жыл бұрын
Diana Rigg! She designed a lot of her costumes as well. Absolutely classic and 100% feminine. I loved that show SO much!🙌
@thelastmotel
@thelastmotel 2 жыл бұрын
Emma Peel was Steed's 3rd partner. Cathy Gale, played by Honor Blackman, had been his second partner, and she was just as much of a badass and fashion icon as Emma was. I'm old :(
@kayh8573
@kayh8573 2 жыл бұрын
That's right! And it was remade into a movie in the late 90s with Uma Thurman & Ralph Fiennes!
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 2 жыл бұрын
especially not when guns are involved. Sure in hand to hand combat most women have a severe disadvantage to men but introducing weapons the playing field gets leveled. And certainly at the point where firearms (or "superpowers") are involved even children can become lethal.
@Antony_Jenner
@Antony_Jenner 2 жыл бұрын
There is only one thing better than a woman in a cat suit, two women in cat suits. meeeeoooowwww
@alectong3393
@alectong3393 2 ай бұрын
I am not against female characters, but I don't want female characters whose goals are to spout feminist propaganda.
@trudat1498
@trudat1498 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so I canceled my Disney + subscription back when Disney announced that they were all for indoctrinating “Pudding People”. So I NEVER planned to watch any of these garbage “M-SHE-U” movies again. And now, because of the complete stupidity of this one I have to hear about it time and again 🙄. This stuff is garbage and doesn’t deserve our energy in reviewing it. Edit: Lelu ROCKS! I agree.
@Hellfire918
@Hellfire918 2 жыл бұрын
She Hulk: I control my Anger even though I'm Cat Called Hulk: I was abused as a child, hunted down by the US Military, driven away from the women I love by her General father & said Military. Once I finally got some peace I was forced to join Shield to fight a God & an Alien Army. I was then forced to fight a Robot created by one my friends, that robot had a witch that controlled my mind & made me kill people in an African Country. I chose to take myself out of the equation to not harm anyone else to which the Hulk took over the body for 2 years on a Gladiatorial trash planet. Thor came & helped me become Bruce again only to have me go fight in Ragnarok. Then Thanos came & killed almost all the Asgardians, beat the Hulk silly & killed half of my FUCKING friends & half of ALL LIFE IN THE FUCKING UNIVERSE because I failed to get the Hulk out to fight him. I spent 5 FUCKING YEARS morning their loss only to lose Nat while trying to bring them back, fucked my arm up bringing EVERYONE BACK, but Nat as I tried my hardest & still couldn't. Had to fight Thanos AGAIN!! Had to watch Tony die, had to watch Cap die. But hey at least I'm not cat called in the streets. You totally have it harder than I ever did. Female leads can be good, if written like humans, not as one note machines because diversity. As for Doctor, Who, that was a concept that could happen since the Doctor always wanted to be, but never was, either ginger or female. Granted they FUCKED Doctor Who's story to high fucking hell with the current show runners..... It wasn't just the Doctor being Female that fucked it over it was the fact they fucked the Lore to high hell to make the character even more inclusive. Although Jodi's Doctor never really felt like the Doctor, she felt like a companion acting like the Doctor.
@settame1
@settame1 2 жыл бұрын
Now the doctor is also black
@13thMaiden
@13thMaiden 2 жыл бұрын
@@settame1 Black and Gay✨ Which honestly is stupid as frick, why the hell is he getting horny for humans anyways? I always thought the Doctor should have been asexual, but nuuuu we had to make him have romances with companions and then get an annoying wife (sorry I _hated_ Riversong). This is an alien we're to believe can change between sexes as it pleases with each life, therefore it makes more sense they're either asexual/aromantic or bisexual. Also you know, rather that garbage with the timeless child or whatever bullfrickery, having Jodi's doctor revealed as actually a companion pretending to be the Doctor as she searched to find the real Doctor who was trapped somewhere would have been infinitely more interesting than what we got. But that would have required competent writers.
@rwuttke
@rwuttke 2 жыл бұрын
After your first paragraph, you realise the only line they would write "SheHulk: I am glad you agree"
@RayleighCriterion
@RayleighCriterion 2 жыл бұрын
@@settame1 Still not a ginger
@Hellfire918
@Hellfire918 2 жыл бұрын
@@settame1 I mean as for the race/gender of the Doctor that never mattered, as The Doctor is an alien that can change his/her physical form at his/her time of death. So that has never mattered, not even to the Lore. But rewriting the Doctor's Lore to say 13 isn't 13 but something like 23 or 113...idk stopped watching a few episodes in since Jodi never once had a true moment as "The Doctor" & it became even more preachy than it already was. I mean Doctor Who was always preachy but it used to be more subtle not "beat you over the fucking head with the message" preachy. Anyways where was I, oh yes....the race/gender of The Doctor doesn't matter, what matters is that they fucked all the established Lore up to create forced Diversity in The Doctor's backstory that never needed to be there & then treated the Doctor like just a side character most of the time while ram feeding this weeks message down your throat with this weeks Historical Character that is somehow magically 10000000000000x more progressive than they would have been in real life.
@anantpal8516
@anantpal8516 2 жыл бұрын
"Arcane" is a great example of how to write, develop and portray a female character. I loved the series so much man.
@1gunnerShock
@1gunnerShock 2 жыл бұрын
And they did it without bashing the male characters
@anantpal8516
@anantpal8516 2 жыл бұрын
@@1gunnerShock 💯
@crbkqw
@crbkqw 2 жыл бұрын
Solid take. They didn't bitch about stuff. They just went through their struggles in different ways.
@davidkoudelka10
@davidkoudelka10 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, instead of making strong women narcissistic, Caitlyn is both strong and very sweet to both Piltover and Zaun, and Vi, while toughened by going through hell, still has moments of kindness and vulnerability, where she can open up to others about herself.❤💙 Oil and water work well together!❤
@ojroche5217
@ojroche5217 2 жыл бұрын
The production team was French. If it were made in Hollywood it would’ve turned out a whole lot different.
@ChrisHarper-om3do
@ChrisHarper-om3do 4 ай бұрын
This woman is so spot on! Its almost infuriating because I could never put her points in words as perfectly as she does here. Well said and I love the light hearted delivery and humor she adds which make it fun watching as well as just listening. Doesn’t hurt that she is also beautiful and clearly intelligent. Kudos and hope to hear/see more!
@parthachem83
@parthachem83 2 жыл бұрын
Male Superheroes: Enemy is bad and twisted opponent Female Superheroes: Enemy is society and toxic men 🤣🤣 When u think a character is great just coz main lead is female instead of making a great character who happens to be female, this happens.
@Gundam4
@Gundam4 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 2 жыл бұрын
Hey at least they're almost nailing the "enemy is society and toxic people" like Joker
@Changed.User100
@Changed.User100 2 жыл бұрын
They really expecting us to accept every single female protagonist? Even if they are so annoying and stupid?
@parthachem83
@parthachem83 2 жыл бұрын
@@Changed.User100 I dont think they are trying to make anyone like anything as viewers were never their concern. All they want is to project their bitter mindset and maybe find few followers on the way
@AliceLupin1
@AliceLupin1 2 жыл бұрын
I (a woman) personally lean more towards male lead movies because they're usually better written, since they're focusing on an actual storyline than SJWness. I'm not even going to bother with She Hulk because Disney now days is incapable of puking out anything good anymore. The older stuff with female leads, as you said, were WAY better. I miss the good ol days when movies were written for good stories and not woke BS. P.S Die Hard is the best Christmas movie ever.
@hewhorocketh
@hewhorocketh 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Agreed. I’m done with all Marvell now as they’ve lost their way. Just nonsense nowadays and isn’t worth the cinema ticket.
@jonjon5137
@jonjon5137 2 жыл бұрын
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@darkdemonqueen
@darkdemonqueen 2 жыл бұрын
“Disney now days is incapable of puking out anything good anymore.”..... here here!
@elizabethanthony3916
@elizabethanthony3916 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 😁👍👏👏👏
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 жыл бұрын
Disney is where good stories go to die. Big massive corporations cannot do good story telling even when they try. When managers take over creatives have to either learn to play the internal politics game or leave for better pastures.
@TexasGTO
@TexasGTO 2 жыл бұрын
The movie Top Gun Maverick does a really good job with their female characters. Specifically the female pilot. She isn't "I AM WOMAN AND I AM HERE LOOK AT ME". She was "I am a pilot. Let's get this shit done". I really enjoyed her character.
@maddiegrace5338
@maddiegrace5338 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I really enjoyed the characters in the new topgun 😊
@Rafissima
@Rafissima 2 жыл бұрын
This was, for sure, a good movie in a while
@ad5047
@ad5047 2 жыл бұрын
You just thought of her as a good pilot not as a good woman
@idkuhhhhhhhhh
@idkuhhhhhhhhh 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you were the bot from tiktok for a second💀
@femiyilu
@femiyilu Жыл бұрын
Spot on! "I'm a pilot. Let's get shit done"
@TheEggroll4321
@TheEggroll4321 10 ай бұрын
Disney is allergic to money at this point
@Wesley-3_9-2Bruh
@Wesley-3_9-2Bruh 2 жыл бұрын
"The suit will be perfect, when it fits a woman." So men and women are biologically different now? And you need special treatment?
@rjaxxxas
@rjaxxxas 2 жыл бұрын
Well it is true too a degree lol
@jacquesdaniels2435
@jacquesdaniels2435 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjaxxxas but left don't agree with that difference(even to a degree) either hence the comments
@destinyhntr
@destinyhntr 2 жыл бұрын
Men and women are biologically different. Anyone who denies that is just whining. I'm a whining and the majority are different. Claiming they're the same just hurts women
@גלעדסוירזנסקי
@גלעדסוירזנסקי Жыл бұрын
Legally blonde is a great example of correct female lead writing, Elle breaks the "Dumb blonde" trope, she's kind and compassionate and feminine but she's also snarky and smart and motivated and self empowered, while not needing to tear down men on the way. She does her own thing and empowers other women
@NadiaSeesIt
@NadiaSeesIt Жыл бұрын
So true, she was extremely feminine and capable and competent without compromising herself
@PersonallyPerhaps
@PersonallyPerhaps Жыл бұрын
That’s why I love legally blonde it’s a great movie and great character and it’s way better now.
@Wolffman109
@Wolffman109 11 ай бұрын
In addition, she actually goes through the hero's journey and has to grow as a character, changing from somebody who just wanted to follow her boyfriend to Harvard law school to someone who buckles down, studies relentlessly, and becomes more capable in the process!
@rachlizlee
@rachlizlee 11 ай бұрын
And she still gets to fall in love!! It's not one or the other. She gets to be feminine and powerful and struggle and still get a cute guy.
@Slla-th5vt
@Slla-th5vt 11 ай бұрын
But then Legally Blonde, she is pretty much happy to be an airhead bimbo until she becomes the woman scorned. It is pretty much saying women won't make an effort to improve themselves unless it is for a man.
@tjjordan4207
@tjjordan4207 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a simpler time when characters could teach us lessons through the hardships and flaws to overcome, while being likable and relatable. Make us feel good and inspired. And vice versa, where hard lessons left us questioning life and ourselves without feeling like shit.
@mdtisthebest6249
@mdtisthebest6249 2 жыл бұрын
You never seen a Scorsese film?
@kyle1598hffgyfv
@kyle1598hffgyfv 2 жыл бұрын
Mrs Frisby/Brisby is one of the best female leads. She is just a normal mouse trying to do normal mouse things. She isn't strong, she isn't smart, she isn't fearless, and she isn't powerful. In spite of all that, she still forges ahead because he son needs her. And we love her BECAUSE of her flaws. People love an underdog story where the weak hero overcomes the odds and wins.
@AwkwarddFoxx
@AwkwarddFoxx 2 жыл бұрын
love the profile pic 🤩
@PaleImperator
@PaleImperator 2 жыл бұрын
Kids these days and their rock and roll music!
@reeseymeimei
@reeseymeimei 9 ай бұрын
i needed this video. i will be making the necessary adjustments to take control of my time again. thank you for making this and sharing!
@Laramaria2
@Laramaria2 2 жыл бұрын
The animated Mulan was a great character because she had many flaws, she didn't fit as a typical female and neither she could be a true man because that's not her! She had little chance to succeed in warfare but she didn't care as long as she succeed in saving her father! She becomes stronger by being herself, embracing her strength: she is smart, creative, she is persistent, brave and seeing she doesn't need to be the perfect daughter society says she must be and also embracing the fact that she is not a man makes her having to rely on herself and finding her best self! And that is powerful! She isn't special, she isn't the best choice for the job, but she will do her best at that job and in the end, she succeeds because she was being herself!Working hard, being smart and creative. The message was simple and powerful: you don't need to be special, you don't even have to be like others to be great, you can be great being your best self, and being your best self is enough! And then 2020 Mulan came in and was like "yeah, if you weren't born special, you will never be anything. Screw hard work" 😒
@Savagewolver
@Savagewolver 2 жыл бұрын
You more or less illustrated all of my issues with the new Mulan movie.
@marcelodomene
@marcelodomene 2 жыл бұрын
In the animation it was never about being the best warrior, but about ingenuity, about using your head, about putting to use her past and knowledge about being a woman to accomplish things that 'typical manly' methods wouldn't do, and about being brave in duty and what you consider important. Mulan in the animation continuisly puts herself in danger for the sake of others, and she doesn't have superpowers the strength of ten men to bail her out. Never saw the live action, but what they told me of it made me not want to even if paid.
@valennovus1632
@valennovus1632 2 жыл бұрын
i feel this so hard
@Laramaria2
@Laramaria2 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcelodomene Don't even bother... It's precious time you'll never get back. The animation is better 😬
@Laramaria2
@Laramaria2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Savagewolver glad someone agrees. Mulan 2020 gets on my nerves...
@gregorellis4767
@gregorellis4767 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was a journalist, my Aunt taught law, in brief, many of the woman in my family were well educated and strong. Yet, not a single one would have signed on to one bit to this woke tripe.
@The_Phoenix_Saga
@The_Phoenix_Saga 2 жыл бұрын
That's because the women in your family are... well actual women; not the indoctrinated, prissy princesses who are classed as adults merely by their reaching the age of adulthood in body, yet slacking in mind.
@feistyunicorn5617
@feistyunicorn5617 2 жыл бұрын
Women getting to be leads does not mean woke.
@Blox117
@Blox117 2 жыл бұрын
a man could have done a better job than them
@xanhaxs
@xanhaxs 2 жыл бұрын
@@feistyunicorn5617 simp
@christophergardiner5351
@christophergardiner5351 2 жыл бұрын
@@feistyunicorn5617 who is suggesting that?
@kjayaram8157
@kjayaram8157 2 жыл бұрын
The insane irony we see when she talks about how incompetent men explain her areas of expertise while she incompetently explains Banner's area of expertise to him.
@robyrandom1148
@robyrandom1148 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ndo533
@ndo533 2 жыл бұрын
You're so sensitive
@superdave8248
@superdave8248 2 жыл бұрын
Just my take on character development. The point of a story is to show people an example of an imperfect human who manages to achieve a goal regardless of the inherent weaknesses of that human. Traditionally, this has been men in these rolls. So they are relatable to men who grow being told that they must achieve success in order to be considered a valuable contributor to society. Even though the story has the hero (in this case) taking on some Herculean challenge, men can relate to the man because we all have our own challenges in life and like the hero we have to improve ourselves in order to accomplish the task. But the women being portrayed in these movies are self inserts of the female driven writing team. They are too focused on themselves. Their lives are full of conflict because they are angry about everything. Take She Hulk for example. She doesn't want to save the world. Wants nothing to do with it. Yet is angry that her position in life has her answering to men in her professional world. Her lack of responsibility keeps her from seeking positions of authority within a business. She wants the job title but not the responsibility.
@SilveeYT
@SilveeYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@ndo533, keep breathing copium 👀
@ndo533
@ndo533 2 жыл бұрын
@@superdave8248 not one word of that was factual. Have you even watched the show? Lmaoooo
@MoseleyJon
@MoseleyJon 9 ай бұрын
I love it. Emotions can be power when one knows how to handle and channel them.
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 2 жыл бұрын
The "when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me" sounds especially wrong to me because of one HUGE reason. That is exactly what she is doing to Bruce Banner right there.
@XinaTheGM
@XinaTheGM 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed! As if that never happens to men. Oh if only I was male, I'd never be afraid of being bulled, I could walk alone at night and be safe, nobody would make sexual comments at me, everyone would respect me all the time, people would judge me for who I am... Except the social norm is that physical violence against women is less tolerated than violence against men, men get murdered in bad neighborhoods, men are constantly being measured for their physical prowess, men are often portrayed as bumbling fools, men are valued based on the size of their paychecks... It's a bad case of "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence".
@christophertaylor9100
@christophertaylor9100 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that and she's plainly not a legal expert yet. She's not Matt Murdock. She needs to learn and get better at her job.
@kkm1194
@kkm1194 2 жыл бұрын
@@XinaTheGM i have a view to add tha scene may had context to the convo she had at start of episode
@Byorin
@Byorin 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point. The whole rant was just awkward, especially considering Bruce’s life has been filled with suffering to the point that he tried to kill himself.
@nemtudom5074
@nemtudom5074 2 жыл бұрын
Hypocrisy only exists when they are the victims, i guess
@kennethcrenshaw317
@kennethcrenshaw317 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things that really bothered me about the female Ghostbusters was that the male counter part to the secretary was wildly incompetent. Jenine from the original group was never incompetent. She was part of the team. Chris' character just made men look like baffoons.
@Ironcabbit
@Ironcabbit 2 жыл бұрын
And they learned that when you make a political battle out of it instead of incorporating it into your story, your product will fail. And then someone will come along a few years later and make a better version of your story, with a twelve year old girl that’s a stronger, more compelling female lead than all four of your leads combined.
@MIAMI420LOKO
@MIAMI420LOKO 2 жыл бұрын
Great point about the original Ghostbusters. She wasn’t a Pam Anderson type character, running around shaking her tetas. She an equal
@KillerBill1953
@KillerBill1953 2 жыл бұрын
As was the intention, and why the film bombed.
@michaelquaid4679
@michaelquaid4679 2 жыл бұрын
And objectively, the female Ghostbusters just was not funny. It was cringy
@emberfist8347
@emberfist8347 2 жыл бұрын
Yep the substitution also showed another problem with the movie on a comedy level. For a joke to work you often a straight man to bounce off weirdness. Jeanine and Winston both filled this role in the original movie.
@pauIaaaa
@pauIaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
If you're strong, you don't have to remind everyone of that. Only weak people HAVE TO do it. That says a lot about these feminists.
@fleurwebber2206
@fleurwebber2206 2 жыл бұрын
i mean it’s probably just the response of having to prove yourself after being belittled throughout most of your life 🤷🏻‍♀️
@itslikemagic3932
@itslikemagic3932 2 жыл бұрын
@@fleurwebber2206 if ur strong, u can prove it, and shut those ppl up, his point still stands, everyone gets belittled, u think successful ppl had it easy? U think they dint have ppl telling them to give up, and that their efforts are futile, that they will never accomplish anything? Please, being belittled is nothing special, everyone have gone thru that, literally everyone
@fleurwebber2206
@fleurwebber2206 2 жыл бұрын
@@itslikemagic3932 yes i agree but people are belittled for different things, all the media bias in films, music, jokes etc about women, you don’t think that’s affected women’s self esteem, their confidence? ofc a lot of women are going to want to ‘prove’ themselves that they can be strong, when they’re entire life they’ve been told they haven’t.
@itslikemagic3932
@itslikemagic3932 2 жыл бұрын
@@fleurwebber2206 still, ur saying things everyone goes thru, jokes, bullying etc etc, why do u think male suicide rates are so much higher, more males suffer from depression, males are told to be strong and provide so on and so forth. my point is the the problems ur saying women face are the same problems everyone face. Facts of the matter is, society shld stop including gender into everything, the strong makes it up to the top, men or women. Infact, women as a whole rn have more rights and privilege than portrayed, the feminist movement worked, but no one is able to accept that. Im not saying all, but most of the feminists i see arent even fighting for equality anymore, they are fighting for supremacy
@fleurwebber2206
@fleurwebber2206 2 жыл бұрын
@@itslikemagic3932 i understand your point and i do agree to an extent, but the difference is women are degraded FOR being women. that’s the difference. when women are told that men are better, it might not always be said that directly but it is often subtle in many things like i said, films, songs, jokes, language etc. hence why now modern feminism tries to uplift women (i don’t agree with making it out as though women are better tho). women have been degraded for so long for being females that it’s really no surprise that women are reacting this way.
@FANCIAS911
@FANCIAS911 Ай бұрын
Probably the most concise dismantling of this topic I've seen to date. Excellent video
@eerielamp
@eerielamp 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm great at controlling my emotions" Then you just defeated the purpose of the hulk. Sorry
@SydneyWatson
@SydneyWatson 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@eerielamp
@eerielamp 2 жыл бұрын
@@SydneyWatson low key, I haven't seen She Hulk. Thank you for watching it for us 😂❤️
@POIUYTREWQ62
@POIUYTREWQ62 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of comments on other videos saying that she-hulk is only better at controlling it because she didn't get as much radiation as hulk did. If she did, she would be going full rage monster; but I guess that would be bad for the agenda if you show a woman getting emotional and raging.
@satisfied656
@satisfied656 2 жыл бұрын
For me personally the two worst cringe Tv-shows ever: SHE-Hulk (script from whiney-KAREN-like-depressed writers who have a miserable life) and the female DrWHO (script from a person who actually never had spoken to a woman before)....the people who wrote these shitshows should be banned for life to do another script! No more brain diarrhea!
@BigPanda096
@BigPanda096 4 ай бұрын
​@@POIUYTREWQ62 nah people doing the writing for bad writers imo, don't do that. They fucked up, they made her insufferable because they tried making her better than the original with none of the downsides...
@theinnerlight8016
@theinnerlight8016 2 жыл бұрын
"My real plea is for men to have enough empathy to watch movies starring women." I pay for and watch movies for my entertainment, not out of pity, nor will rich Hollywood people guilt trip me to do it. What a sales pitch, really! "My product sucks, but please have empathy and buy it anyway." 🤦‍♂️
@violetviolent7980
@violetviolent7980 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the entitlement and illusion is astronomical with the Hollywood types in addition make women look feeble and insecure.
@charlesws7825
@charlesws7825 2 жыл бұрын
"I hate oppressive men like you, but if you don't want to be oppressive, watch my movie anyway." Does that rank as childish narcissism or maybe cognitive dissonance to send a message so brain damaged?
@tjhammer24
@tjhammer24 2 жыл бұрын
It's the ultimate no value provided feminist rant
@RafaelSantos-pi8py
@RafaelSantos-pi8py 2 жыл бұрын
They're not making movies for us, but for themselves and feel entitled to our money and attention anyway.
@willw3736
@willw3736 2 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda like what the Democrats are doing, I know you are seeing articles and movies everywhere putting down white straight men, but vote for us anyway please…
@heartbreakerh2o
@heartbreakerh2o Жыл бұрын
I was so pissed at She-Hulk saying she was better at controlling her emotions than Bruce. Bruce saw no out from being Hulk, causing him to talk to BW about him attempting suicide in the movie. "I put a bullet in my mouth and the other guy spit it out." But hey, a cat call is infinitely worse than that. Seriously, the lack of empathy the writers of She-Hulk for men's battle with mental health and higher suicide rate is insane.
@jibberism9910
@jibberism9910 Жыл бұрын
Maybe that's just what they're putting between the lines. With a 20.000GW drone lightshow. Think about it. (I don't have the answer)
@threadtapwhisperer5136
@threadtapwhisperer5136 Жыл бұрын
Also, the hilarity of a female with no anger control..... I mean come on! If anything that's a condemnation of young women especially in 2023.
@heartbreakerh2o
@heartbreakerh2o Жыл бұрын
@aadd2935 she did invalidate his pain, the trauma I was referring to was his suicidal attempts because he saw himself and the hulk as a monter, he saw no way out of his predicament and attemped to kill himself, I was not referring nor was hulk referring to his time as an avenger. The fact that you injected your political views into this is sad and pathetic.
@JJ-yn4cj
@JJ-yn4cj Жыл бұрын
Also, 'i have to control my emotions everyday or i will literally get murdered' what??? When has any woman died because she was emotional and not the perp???
@heartbreakerh2o
@heartbreakerh2o Жыл бұрын
@aadd2935 you have said right wing in both of your comments, and yet you can't see where you brought politics into it? She-Hulk had terrible writers and was nothing more than wasted potential.
@MadisonMagazineYT
@MadisonMagazineYT 3 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! and SHE-HULK is a very good example of this failure of feminist rn in Hollywood, they need more time and a good script instead of forcing it!
@thelastbrobo7826
@thelastbrobo7826 2 жыл бұрын
I heard it said once that the masculine power fantasy is being a hero and helping others and the feminist power fantasy is to be the villain and get away with it.
@dmbanisi
@dmbanisi 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how right you are
@serafinmagic1634
@serafinmagic1634 2 жыл бұрын
I guess no one told Mother Teresa or the rest of her order.
@kyle1598hffgyfv
@kyle1598hffgyfv 2 жыл бұрын
@@serafinmagic1634 Mother Theresa wasn't living a power fantasy. She also wasn't a 3rd wave feminist.
@kyle1598hffgyfv
@kyle1598hffgyfv 2 жыл бұрын
@@serafinmagic1634 maybe you should fantasize about reading comprehension.
@AwkwarddFoxx
@AwkwarddFoxx 2 жыл бұрын
then what is the *feminine* power fantasy
@tangroro
@tangroro 2 жыл бұрын
There's one thing really bother me when it comes to "strong independent women" in Western media, they almost always involve over-competence, belittling men, or sexually irresponsible
@Imperials3nate
@Imperials3nate 2 жыл бұрын
That behaviour would basically make these writers hypocrites.
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 2 жыл бұрын
You _do_ realize that the entire concept of a "strong independent woman" is reality-denying garbage designed to subvert and destroy traditional society? Why in the world is a woman supposed to be independent? Because that means she doesn't want a husband or children. These ideologies go all the way back to the atheist/nihilist communists of the 1800s. The history exists for anyone who wishes to find out what's going on and how we ended up here.
@jeffreyreeves9854
@jeffreyreeves9854 2 жыл бұрын
tang roro, I've met Women who bragged about being "independent". That is because there is a Man whom "Wonder Woman" can be a parasite/vampire off of.
@martinderabbie3429
@martinderabbie3429 2 жыл бұрын
Usually all 3
@stariqa2
@stariqa2 2 жыл бұрын
Western media always shows Independent women as someone who has the traits of a brash alpha insensitive male.
@silverstreak8958
@silverstreak8958 2 жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly, She-Hulk is written in the comics as a (occasionally) 4th wall breaking character struggling to juggle her professions as a lawyer and as a super-hero(ine?) plus her personal life. What's with this decision to make Jen not wanna be a hero? Also, Ruby Rose's Batwoman was very cringe.
@johnvan6082
@johnvan6082 2 жыл бұрын
SHE HULK - sponsored by INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH KITTY LITTER " for the career driven woman with 25 cats " by KARENCO
@princessmarlena1359
@princessmarlena1359 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnvan6082 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You’re killing me!
@whimbrella
@whimbrella 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnvan6082 This is a stupid stereotype. Women can be just as successful at having careers as men without being crazy…
@theshadowcult
@theshadowcult 2 жыл бұрын
Not all super powered characters want to be heros or villains. There are plenty of both male and female super characters in comics that are trying to do normal lives.
@Monkcare
@Monkcare 2 жыл бұрын
You recall wrong, she breaks the 4th wall to speed up the story, to rip holes through pages to reach the page she wants to get to, she prompts issue skips for when she's getting beaten by the bad guys, she used the 4th wall to gain an advantage. She broke the 4th wall decades before Deadpool. Also, she didn't want to be a hero in the comics at first either. She hulk is very close to the source material ... written by Stan Lee...
@peterwilkin8917
@peterwilkin8917 9 ай бұрын
Ideological movie = propaganda. Not so long ago it was widely understood that propaganda is the the worst kind of art. Even worse than hard core pornography.
@ExplosiveBolts
@ExplosiveBolts 2 жыл бұрын
Feminist writers seem to love writing "toxic masculine" traits into their lead characters. Really makes you think.
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 2 жыл бұрын
*"Really makes you think."* I hope it _does_ make people think. For those who already understand what so-called "feminism" actually is and always has been, it is not at all surprising.
@angelo4998
@angelo4998 2 жыл бұрын
it's almost like they are just a different side of the same coin
@wojak-sensei6424
@wojak-sensei6424 2 жыл бұрын
It's a disservice to both genders, honestly. Male characters are lucky enough to get a third-rate supporting role these days (unless you're a legacy character), and female characters are dull, doll-faced, douchebags that you never want to root for. Just bad, bad writing all around.
@donaldporr9682
@donaldporr9682 2 жыл бұрын
They want to get rid of the strong father figures and destroy the nuclear family.
@minniequinniee
@minniequinniee 2 жыл бұрын
THIS!!!!
@bufflatino5121
@bufflatino5121 2 жыл бұрын
*BOTH genders?!!! There are 276 genders thank you VERY much.* 🤣
@randomquestion7592
@randomquestion7592 2 жыл бұрын
@@bufflatino5121 HA, its a joke! I knew that.
@ALJ9000
@ALJ9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@bufflatino5121 Man, I miss the old days
@nogoodgod4915
@nogoodgod4915 Жыл бұрын
She-Hulk: "I have to deal with anger infinitely more because I get attention for how good I look" Hulk: "I put a bullet in my mouth but the other guy spat it out, I was defeates by a mad titan, lost my love interest, then brought back every single person affected by the snap, but I couldn't bring her back"
@shivamda27
@shivamda27 10 ай бұрын
This makes total sense. As someone who fell out of love with Marvel and Doctor Who, I can completely relate to it.
@IamNuideas2001
@IamNuideas2001 2 жыл бұрын
I'll admit, as a female, I'm more drawn to male characters, but am not adverse to well-written female characters. I enjoyed Sarah Conners, Ripley, and Wonder Woman (not the 2nd movie). I liked women who are strong but not at the expense of her femininity. It's not a bad thing, being female. The reason I love the character of Wonder Woman, is that she has heart. She is strong and as capable as any man, but she doesn't have to ridicule or humiliate men to be awesome. She just is. If the only way you can prove to yourself that you are strong or worthy is to stomp on everyone around you, then you are neither strong nor worthy. I hate these woke, feministic movies and TV shows. I find these female characters flat, whiny, boring, and more than pathetic. It's cringey.
@ScrewFearMe
@ScrewFearMe Жыл бұрын
Even though most movies today are better than most movies from the 90's or 80's or 70's I would pick a movie from those older years more than today because of 1 thing, character(not the characters in the movies but, well i hope you know what I mean). Sarah Conners had character, so did Ripley and many other female leads back in the days, not because they were women but because they were great characters who had struggles and and flaws, they were strong but also weak. Men back then the same. Now if its supposed to be a "strong" female lead, she is the "strong" one while the men are weak and pathetic and stupid. One example of that would be Chris Hemsworth character in Ghostbuster 2016, you wonder how he survived that long, only to be the sex object of those female characters, while Annie Potts character in the 1984 Ghostbusters wasnt, she wasnt the insanely stupid but hot female sex object, she was a not so good looking woman who had character, she had spunk, and she went hamm on Bill Murreys character, which I enjoyed a lot. Long story short, they don't make movies like they did before, and it shows.
@entertainmentweekly4727
@entertainmentweekly4727 Жыл бұрын
Same I like WW and Black Widow. These woke movies feel like there is an element of hatred towards men or misandry shall I say.
@marinavasquez8813
@marinavasquez8813 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@sanjaybailey835
@sanjaybailey835 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@ttrev007
@ttrev007 Жыл бұрын
I also find the woke female characters to be weak. I just don't believe the powerful things they do, they feel fake
@1307scooter
@1307scooter Жыл бұрын
The junk that Hollywood is putting out today, has sent me back to the classics. Most of it not even worth pirating.
@RicardoAguilar-it4gf
@RicardoAguilar-it4gf Жыл бұрын
Not even worth the 20 pesos I used to pay for the bootleg at a gas station in Mexico 😂 that how bad woke movies are
@TreasureByMeasure
@TreasureByMeasure 2 жыл бұрын
We don't need stronger women, we need stronger storytellers.
@he2295
@he2295 2 жыл бұрын
Oof
@daurydavis3983
@daurydavis3983 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@ericv4189
@ericv4189 2 жыл бұрын
You other commenters don't understand what Matthew is saying, do ya? He's that women are already strong, and that contemporary storytellers, regardless of gender, are sucking.
@myNarrator
@myNarrator 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the gatekeepers won't allow better stories to be told. They're currently riding the woke wave, for fear of being "cancelled". Eventually, they'll lose so much money that they'll be forced back into making what people actually want to watch.
@sreehari7190
@sreehari7190 2 жыл бұрын
Agree🙌🏼
@developer1970
@developer1970 10 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for recording this.
@garrettviewegh677
@garrettviewegh677 2 жыл бұрын
Princess Leia is unironicly one of my favorite characters in Star Wars. She’s kind, compassionate, and in many ways symbolizes everything the Rebellion stands for. However, she’s also brave, daring, and she isn’t afraid to shoot her way out of a tough situation. I love how her personality is quite opposite to what people generally think of princesses and damsels in destress. Though no longer canon, she did some incredible things in Legends too. She such an inspiring character, and in many ways reflects Anakin. While Luke’s personality traits reflects Padme. Carrie Fisher played many roles, but she was the perfect choice for Leia Organa, a character whom at times, had an attitude. Whether it was arguing with Han, or undermining an Imperial.
@conure512
@conure512 2 жыл бұрын
Leia got her father's boldness and her mother's ability to inspire people. Luke got his father's power and his mother's kind personality.
@busking6292
@busking6292 2 жыл бұрын
Carrie Fisher--incredibly likeable,very intelligent,superb comic timing and a great actress,when she was alive you could say Hollywood still contains some talent,now they're just a 3rd rate sideshow with money which, on the face of it, they appear to be shovelling into a furnace with the boiler remaining cold,they've run out of talent and sooner or later will run out of cash,someone said 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time',anyway Carrie,you were too good for this shitshow R.I.P.
@XinaTheGM
@XinaTheGM 2 жыл бұрын
Leia argued with Han and even insulted him at times, but she didn't demean, devalue, or disregard him. Today's heroines could take a lesson from that.
@dirankesuma
@dirankesuma 2 жыл бұрын
@@busking6292 I love how you quoted vaas lol. But I 100% agree.
@kailuun
@kailuun 2 жыл бұрын
Leia was as much like her father as she was her mother. She was as daring and brave as her mother, but just as willing to disregard the rules and get things done, regardless of the consequences, as her father.
@snarkygal9221
@snarkygal9221 2 жыл бұрын
"Saving people are for narcissists, billionaires, and adult orphans” God, the absolute callousness in that statement. Not only does she diss superheroes but also police, firefighters, and doctors. Then, she blows off being an orphan like it's a lifestyle choice.
@janinmarquez-medina6265
@janinmarquez-medina6265 2 жыл бұрын
That She Hulk from that show can easily fit in the show The Boys...
@snarkygal9221
@snarkygal9221 2 жыл бұрын
@@janinmarquez-medina6265 From what I've heard, she can certainly match them in entitlement if nothing else.
@issan1566
@issan1566 2 жыл бұрын
@@janinmarquez-medina6265 The boys should make a she-hulk parody lol
@yakhooves
@yakhooves 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah… so many of the “witticisms” in she hulk make it obvious that the writers haven’t even bothered watching the marvel movies. Banner has been through so much trauma to be where he is, that to berate that experience is detestable behavior. Especially from someone who is family, and that she’s ostensibly supposed to love.She is so wildly unlikable that it almost feels like we should be rooting against her. She made a character that is literally a hulk, seem small, weak, and pathetic.
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest irony is when she rants at the Hulk about being catcalled, she's literally invalidating Bruce Banner's struggles to prop up her small trivial inconveniences - which is something actual Narcissists do. So in a way She-Hulk is projecting there.
@aimimoque1155
@aimimoque1155 2 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you something, I'm latina and I grew up watching soap operas with my parents, and if you know anything about those shows, you know that the protagonist is always female. I never heard my dad, uncles or grandpas complaining because the protagonist was a woman, indeed, they rooted for her. Those protagonists were relatable to latinas, and that's why we like them.
@Netseer2000
@Netseer2000 2 жыл бұрын
Not always there are a few exceptions.
@sematy4948
@sematy4948 2 жыл бұрын
Same here around SEA. The story usually revolves around the life of a female lead discovering her "soulmate" and/or reaching her dreams. Even Korean Dramas and anime (usu. shojo anime) have likeable female leads with really interesting stories. :)
@captainsisko7629
@captainsisko7629 2 жыл бұрын
I want me a latina Wife !!!!!!
@johnd.1618
@johnd.1618 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe not a soap opera, but loved Natalia Oreiro playing Milagros. A character that was beautiful in the inside, not just the outside.
@tomaguilar4647
@tomaguilar4647 2 жыл бұрын
Because most Latinas are crazy I know because family members and past relationships all watch telenovelas and it promotes the crying, manipulative, crazy but beautiful woman concept and they always faint just because and scream at everyone.
@Chibi_Ichiro
@Chibi_Ichiro 2 ай бұрын
Im 1yr late to this video but its aged really well. Ive loved and grown up on the MCU yes but I *adore* well written female leads, Alien is one of my fav movies ever and Ellen Ripley's evolution is a sight to behold. Compared to nowadays movies n shows like She-Hulk or Velma or character asssinating ones like Mulan feel the need to belittle insult and treat the plights us guys go through as if theyre nothing. The ways they had She-Hulk downright disrespect what Bruce had gone through was in such poor taste, writing all the pain and heartbreak and loss hes experienced cause "Ive experienced worse"; its so pandering and i hate it. Nothing causes fans, be them fem male n anything inbetween, to leave so fast when the characters we grow up watching and loving to death get treated like garbage by someone who seems absolutely devoid of empathy or emotions. Appreciate your video speaking out in defense of actual good female leads, we very much adore these types of movies
@andysalter7192
@andysalter7192 2 жыл бұрын
Modern woke cult feminist " entertainment" has literally turned me off watching ANYTHING made with a women lead. And I keep hearing from women I know is they miss looking at Hot Masculine men doing Hot Masculine things on screen So who is this stuff for ? 100 people on Twitter??
@weelzneal4768
@weelzneal4768 2 жыл бұрын
Had this mentality too then i watched Prey (2022 predator) & quickly picked up the mentality again. Sister in law saw us guys lookin at a pretty woman & called us all perverts to which i said "like you dont wanna see magic Mike!" She responded "I AM GOING TO SEE MAGIC MIKE WITH SO&SO!!"
@applefarm6126
@applefarm6126 2 жыл бұрын
Fr, there’s nothing wrong with strong, masculine, caring men.
@gagatube
@gagatube 2 жыл бұрын
"So who is this stuff for?" It's for the feminist directors and producers in Hollywood who want to justify their sad, vindictive lives and give themselves awards for promoting girlpower while fighting The Patriarchy! Any man (or woman) challenging their right to do this will be 'taken out' by the Me2 movement.
@theinnerlight8016
@theinnerlight8016 2 жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I overheard some kids at the bus stop saying she-hulk was the funniest thing and they liked it. So even if you and me like some better quality of writing and less "message" in our entertainment, seems like there is a market for it. The young are generally easier to be influenced. 🤷‍♂️
@Luis_H423
@Luis_H423 2 жыл бұрын
@@theinnerlight8016 That's the target audience, young people. Hollywood knows they are ignorant and impressionable, so they hide subliminal messages in their shows/movies. It's the leftist indoctrination of society.
@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive
@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive 2 жыл бұрын
Men: With great power, comes great responsibility. Women: I have great power, now how can I abuse it for a better sex life and career while calling *_everyone else_* a narcissist instead of being selfless?
@GeneralG1810
@GeneralG1810 2 жыл бұрын
Go to the front of the class, you absolutely nailed it with that comment. Of course they only see themselves as victims and won't accept that they're self absorbed
@Duncangafney1
@Duncangafney1 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, they do not even see the irony of calling someone who acts selflessly a "narcissist", whilst acting selfishly i.e demonstrating "narcissistic" traits.
@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive
@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive 2 жыл бұрын
Truth is, these feminazis give their female *_"heroes"_* the traits we give our male *_villains._*
@themacocko6311
@themacocko6311 2 жыл бұрын
The men who are fucking these women really need to take a look at themselves.
@CrisTc86
@CrisTc86 2 жыл бұрын
you got that right
@jimf3964
@jimf3964 2 жыл бұрын
"I can control my anger; I do it every day" >tries to run over her cousin because her feelings got hurt.
@stevef68
@stevef68 2 жыл бұрын
Or almost kill some guys outside a bar for asking what her name is...
@thatguysammo
@thatguysammo 7 ай бұрын
"i'm great at controlling my anger"... immediately gets angry... bad writing, and a terrible excuse for why she didnt have to learn to control powers she had never had before
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