The Battle Of Lothal | Star Wars Clips

In the latest episode of Star Wars Rebels, we finally get to witness the Battle Of Lothal. Entering the battle with a squadron of 24 (combination of both fighters and bombers), the Rebels believed they were able to bypass Grand Admiral Thrawn's blockade and outsmart the Imperials - in the end it would be Thrawn who has the last laugh.
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[@Halarue]

-Let’s attack a tie fighter factory - oh no it’s full of tie fighters

[@truemagolord1318]

crap i didnt see this coming

[@thesussybaka7733]

xcViejrjwor Have my like damn it

[@sparrowlt]

ROFL

[@jrqf8689]

Whoa didn’t know there’d be tie fighters at stir fighter factory did not see that comming

[@shadowzone2588]

That doesn't make sense. How are their tie fighters in a tie fighter factory?

[@CassDaMan1138]

When Thrawn tells you break off, fucking break off.

[@adonayzemicael2362]

bro it a show it not real dumb ass

[@SeanKL107]

chill

[@ianbaker672]

Time and time again it is shown that one person’s desire for a promotion/stroking-of-the-ego can destroy the soundest of plans. This is why I didn’t care for Director Krennick in Rogue One, as he only cared about being in charge. This led to Krennick trying to bring in Galen Erso in hopes of speeding up progress and in doing so, putting the empire in jeopardy.

[@lamp9773]

Death Trooper iiii

[@tommyscott8511]

When Thrawn tells you to do anything, do it.

[@TacSon]

I tried sending a bunch of x-wings and y-wings to solo a small imperial fleet in Empire at War once, the battle ended faster than this and the fighters never returned to base.

[@Rabih3398]

If you send a full fleet of A-wings, they can shred anything

[@normalhuman3944]

@@Rabih3398 30 tartan patrol cruisers will destroy them easily

[@Rabih3398]

@@normalhuman3944 or going up against boba fett, he wiped me out with his sonic charges 😂

[@fa11endawn16]

@@Rabih3398 Well imagine a army of Tie-Defender and 5 Star-Destroyer (Including Thrawn) in Empire At War REMAKE mod? Jesus they would destroy the rebellion if Thrawn have infinity Tie-Defenders...

[@spencervoest9187]

@@fa11endawn16 Nah. In Thrawn's Revenge, being in Era 2 with Thrawn and Joruus C'Baoth with a good escort fleet and TIE Defenders? Virtually unstoppable my dude. :D

[@kaloyankatzarov9284]

I swear Thrawn literally wants to execute half the Imperial Military for incompetence by this point.

[@gamepad3173]

I wouldn't blame him to be honest, as there are very few competent officers in the entire Empire.

[@mikasa_Ackerman115]

more than incompetence it is ego for always wanting to win the awards. something similar is even seen in the Squadrons video game or in the novels. that the empire fell silent because the admirals fought for power and resources among themselves.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Just wait until Pryce finishes the Rebels' mission for them. He made it abundantly clear just how upset he was with her.

[@timeob.6942]

Sometimes I can’t tell what he’s more disappointed by. The failure, or the fact that most of the incompetent ones die so he can’t kill them himself 😂

[@Darth-vade123]

Vader would

[@randomstormtrooper1529]

Hera: Can fire X-Wing with S-Foils closed Everyone else: Can't

[@josecolon2717]

Random Stormtrooper to memory you sort of can, but they go from being as effective as a fighter to being as effective as a blaster...

[@DiwaGalvez]

@@josecolon2717 I thought that it'll overheat due to them being so close together, and hence the need for S-Foils to be deployed?

[@josecolon2717]

Diwa Alejandro Galvez yes, the overheating plays a part in that, so the ships computer reduces the shots power by a lot

[@DiwaGalvez]

@@josecolon2717 Makes sense why it took several shots to destroy the enemy fighter.

[@stargatecommand714]

@Rusty trumbone Is that why there were other female pilots who died here?

[@mrbabbles5989]

Remember one thing: this whole fleet was destroyed by space whales that can hyperjump.

[@jj_b5400]

That is tame compared to half the bullshit in Legends.

[@ere15xkmc74]

@@jj_b5400 yuuzhan vongs concept is good Yuzhaan vongs on paper for the other gand

[@akiko7831]

@@jj_b5400 wish more people would realise the SW universe is 10x more crazy in legends than what it was in the movies

[@dadian803]

@@akiko7831 It actually has build-up so it's fine. Like the Yuuzhan Vong threat was introduced back then and further tackled in Outbound Flight. I'd say that Legends does it fine until it got to the point of complete bullshit.

[@stalwartteakettlepotato9879]

Thets the most annoying part of the show. Thrawn constantly gets out played by random force creatures as soon as he is on the werge of total victory. They at least made Thrawn somewhat compatent. Every other imperial is dreadfully incompatent to the point of it being a parody. Besides that most rebel success are exaguretad to a comical extent. This clip has a very good example of that. Hera takes down an enemy fighter ace and his deadly prototype tie fighter. This a great victory on its own but is it enough for this show? Nop. The fighter crashes into a light cruiser which then crashes into an ISD crippling it and destroying the smaller ship. Does it matter to Thrawn that he just lost those ships? Nope since the empire has infinite reinforcmets. Does it matter to the rebellion that they crippled that ISD? Nope since the rebellion has infinite plot armour and has been taking out ISDs left and right. So the threat and menace an ISD poses i greatly cheapened for no narrative reason.

[@gio0038]

Try to do that in Star Wars Empire at War and see what happens...

[@armchairphilosopher6880]

@Hauptgefreiter Levi my mans should've brought tartan cruisers AT LEAST.

[@shadowlord2581]

Eh, they dead, and Hera, despite being a hero, would fall to the military might of the empire.

[@brandonthai5126]

LMAO

[@shadowlord2581]

And honestly, in EAW, the Star Destroyers would have fired on the fighters regardless of the possibility of hitting each other, because they can't! It would be better for the people on the ground to attack the factory instead of the starfighters, and also in EAW, except for maybe the Yoden mod or faction specific anti ground bombers, starfighters like the TIE Defender can only operate and be manufactured in space stations, not ground bases! So it would make the attack illogical in EAW.

[@darthbradmedia8929]

They NEED to remaster that game!!!

[@pinkguali6284]

So they're just not gonna use the iconic x-wing shooting sound effect

[@AzureanSky]

Pink GuAli the one thing everyone was looking for and they still mess it up

[@shonw2318]

Pink GuAli I wanna say those are early versions of the x wing and not the original t-65 we know and love. Notice how far up the S foils go and how sendula is able fire while they are closed as well. On top of that, the only fire mode they all use is quad fire when the originals use single fire. But then again, that could just be rebels being dumb as usual.

[@ragingshibe]

Pink GuAli i'm sorry but there's only so much fan service that they can put in Rebels.

[@adamnfiddle8065]

@@ragingshibe "Fan service"? It's putting in the *actual fucking sound of the X-wing for their own fucking X-wings*

[@sharko4093]

We see them using single fire mode during this battle, sorry man. They just fucked up the sounds and ended up using the ones from the Ghost for some reason. I liked Rebels but this battle was a bit weird.

[@SuryaGD]

"They might have numbers but, we got plot armor"

[@pavcueto]

Plot armor? All the ships were destroyed, almost every rebel pilot was killed...

[@blboy129]

@@pavcueto A direct turbolaser shot didnt even seem to hinder Hera. I'd call that plot armor.

[@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491]

@@blboy129 yeah. If u see in ROTJ. In the seen where cryd archnid kamikazed the SSD. An X wing got directly hit with a turbo and got destroyed to shreds

[@christopherofarrell8665]

Syndulla: "He has no shields, we have no shields!" Thrawn: "Also, apparently, we have no shields..."

[@gregorylumban-gaol3889]

Thrawn: “Damn, news to me.”

[@halopro8958]

4:53 That is always funny to me. Just the way it transitions to the screaming TIE Pilot to the high pitched scream of the TIE itself gets me.

[@eternal5930]

"They might have numbers but we got skill" Is she forgetting that to be a TIE pilot you have to be at the top of your class, and all the training you have to go through?

Maybe you dont know that Imperial training has less quality Because the Empire cares about numbers, not skills or quality

[@eternal5930]

@ TIE Pilots recieve a lot of training. The reason why they fail is the expendable design of their ships. The objective of a TIE is to kill the enemy not defend yourself. If every TIE had sheilds, the Rebellion would be done for.

[@TTHEREV]

@@eternal5930 yeah,but the empire trusted more in various proyects of mass destruction like the death star ,you can see how thrawn struggles with the patience of tarkin in a episode ,thrawn trusted that to defeat the free skill of space combat of the rebels needed the tie defender program,but the empire always thinks like a hammer,thats why they always lose

[@dustinakadustin]

Also balls of steel, cause no shields 🤣🤣🤣

[@danielhaire6677]

TIE training is decent but not at the level that Rebels normally put their pilots through./ Luke getting instant access to a fighter was unusual. Also, TIE pilots typically died in an average of their first 5 missions. It was only afterward that they started getting enough experience to be dangerous.

[@darthvader8164]

8 Star Destroyers, 12 Light Cruisers, and 6 Gozanti ships (I think that’s what they’re called). WTF were the rebels thinking?

[@SpiritAce33]

Darth Vader it's called a hit and run attack

[@ZentaWinds]

It's called plot armor.. They know they won't die because PLOT

[@Cybermat47]

TheDuskLycanroc not sure if you watched the video or not, but... they did die. All of them just get shot down. It’s an absolute victory for the Empire.

[@ryleynations6251]

Cybermat47 and along with that, only a couple pilots actually survive

[@WilhelmScreamer]

Desperation, there was never going to be a better time to hit the target and if the tie defender entered full production it would mean the loss of the rebel's edge in the starfighter department

[@thegreyfedora8532]

Why are the X-Wing firing sounds not the iconic noise, but instead the "blocky" type sound that the Ghost uses?

[@DrizzyDrew47]

Austin Jones idk, it's retarded

[@duncanthomson7894]

it really bothers me

[@roguesquadron521]

Bugs me as well, the "blocky" SFX sounds way weaker than traditional X-Wing laser cannon fire.

[@kylebrady969]

If you listen VERY closely the original X-Wing blaster FX is in there (Hera doing her special move is the best section to listen close.) The A-Wings in this show also used the stock sound as-is. Why they went with the Ghost's weapon FX I have no idea, but it definitely doesn't have the meat dynamically.

[@reptiliandiplomat5458]

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT CANON! IT'S FAN FICTION! XD

[@Blacksmith__]

Considering Thrawn is a master tactician, you would think he could come up with a better plan to screen a small batch of fighters than just "deploy in a defensive formation".

[@alexmcbride7563]

Bennett Harnisch He still won though.

[@JimbobHarrigan1984]

He had his reserves of fighters already in position as a back up if his blockade did not work

[@SpecialistFeature]

his blockade would've worked I'm pretty sure, but that TIE crashed into a ship.

[@Aaaa-dt4qg]

seeing as the empire used the Tarkin Doctrine, and Thrawn was trying to change the fleet composition as much as possible, there likely wasn't much of anything other than fighters at their disposal.

[@rafabryl8377]

So what do you except?

[@Corristo89]

The fleet blockading Lothal should've thrown a wall of turbolaser fire towards the Rebel ships coming out of hyperspace. Instead the ISDs do almost nothing the entire time. All they do is hover there, send out a few TIE fighters and crash into each other due to the packed formation. Sorry, but it doesn't build tension when you kill off armies of redshirts and let the main characters survive impossible odds. Hera is an ace pilot, but even an ace can't do anything when outnumbered 20:1 or more.

[@ryleynations6251]

Corristo89 why waste ammo to do a job smaller ships can get easily. And it’s not as easy to hit small ships going super fast

[@Corristo89]

In WW2 battleships shot down attacking aircraft (dive- and torpedobombers) with their massive main guns. The key was firing into their flightpath. The Rebels dropped out of hyperspace and charged the blockade from one direction. All ISDs firing their guns in that direction would've wiped the entire attack force out in seconds. But Hera is wearing plot armor, so no... ;-) And I don't think ammo is really a problem in Star Wars.

[@rileygagnon6917]

Corristo89 and the death star should have sent every fighter it had

[@alexmauney9705]

Well considering a turbo laser with the same yield-age to take out fucking capital ships only disables an X-Wing's shields, what do you expect them to do?

[@memecliparchives2254]

Corristo89 OH MAN THERE ERE DESTROYED LATER ANYWAY.

[@krunkandskunkthehunters2154]

Skills? The tie fighter pilots are highly trained, you are farmers in flying tractors!

[@stormtrooperanimations3241]

Rebels just overpowered by the director

[@blazerkid7393]

I mean x wings are pretty good one of the few star fighters with a hyper drive

[@stormtrooperanimations3241]

@@blazerkid7393 first order tie fighter with almost same size have hyperdrive. I just dunno why imperial tie fighter dont have a hyperdrive

[@blazerkid7393]

@@stormtrooperanimations3241 there was a pretty big time skip around 30 years so hyperdrives probably got cheaper and easier to implement I could be wrong tho

[@kingskelett6265]

@@blazerkid7393 First Order also had neither the need nor the capability to make swarms of Ties. If you can‘t field as many it is best to give then better stuff and you can afford it better. Hence they had jumpdrives and shields.

[@richardched6085]

12 Star Destroyers, 16 Light Cruisers, 10 Corvettes, 904 Tie Fighters, 1 Tie Defender, 50+ Tie Fighters (Second Wave) Vs: 16 T-65 X-Wings 8 BTL-A4 Y-Wings Rebels destroy 1 Star Destroyer, 1 Light Cruiser, Several Dozen Tie Fighters, 1 Tie Defender. Rebels lose all but 3 Pilots. Who lost more?

[@axelmuller7946]

I say the rebels

[@theautomator8372]

Passengers: Tie Defender:1 Tie Fighter:1 Light Cruiser: 750-850(depending on Stormtroopers) ISD: 37,085-46,785(depending on Stormtroopers) In short the Empire suffered major loses.

[@EthanPricco]

Justin Lozada there may have been more fatalities on the Empires side. When put into perspective though, the empire barely lost anything. The Empire can easily replace everything they lost here because of how big the Empire is, while for the Rebels, they lost a lot of their supplies. This battle was definitely more costly for the Rebels than for the Empire.

[@theautomator8372]

@@EthanPricco Yes there could definetly be way more but we aren't told how many there are so I just went by the minimum crew the average star destroyer or crusiers get.

[@user-sz2yi6hj2l]

Star Destroyer isn't destroyed it has power another bridge inside, and a power generator is ok, so it just needed to be repaired thats it.

[@andrewbrandt2051]

5:17 That Star Destroyer Is Doing A Facepalm

[@NiraSader]

"Get outplayed scrub" -Thrawn

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Sierra297 reviews Aiur was delivering a thrawn quote. Thrawn in belitleling the rebel noob commander for thinking it would be this easy to break his blockade. Thrawn outplayed sindula. Learn to understand language, scrub.

[@teerminatormugu5569]

Btw thrawn is just to intelligent then Hera.. RIP Hera Squadron

[@BIGESTblade]

@GrantKP Missiles and tailing.

[@NiraSader]

Darth Vader it has been a while since I actually died to that man in his ult

[@lupinearsenalALT]

But a direct turbolaser hit doesn’t kill an x-wing?!? *shaking my head*

[@quoniam426]

They obviosuly wanted to avoid friendly fire so tuned the turbolasers as lowest power possible, still not very effective at point defense, the turrets are heavy, those eight barrelled turrets are on ISD IIs, the ones suited for orbital and ship to ship bombardment, but at the cost of effective point defense turrets, this is the major difference between ISD Is and ISD IIs.

[@CABRALFAN27]

Quo Niam Plus, it was only one beam (Porkins was hit by two beams, as the towers of the Death Star have dual cannons) and even still it completely annihilated the ship's shields from almost full to nothing.

[@justinbuckley1939]

Quo Niam they didn’t give a fuck about friendly fire did you not hear thrawn

[@oleirons1584]

Guys I may be wrong but I think they shot her with a ION Cannon but I'm not sure...

[@ricardobautista-garcia8492]

@@quoniam426 either that or rebel plot armour.

[@broann4138]

5:15 I guess there is such thing as a rare hairless Wookie lol.

[@beatspopo]

i know my comment will be abit on the dark joke but that wookie most probably has cancer

[@sadiqahmed4143]

@@beatspopo Wokancer?

[@bursegsardaukar]

*Rebel squadron broke through Imperial perimeter.* Thrawn: A testament to Capt. Syndulla's skill as a combat pilot. *Destroys Rebels' entire attack squadron with second TIE fighter wave before they can attack the factory.* Star War fans: A testament to Grand Admiral Thrawn's skill as a brilliant strategist.

[@conmanay4563]

Its_Tony Games how? They lost!

[@SWTobito0702]

@@Generic_Noob Who? The TIE pilots?

[@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491]

@@Generic_Noob what? they lost

[@wookiecommander4554]

I gotta say after playing squadrons for a day. This attack is impossible, like I know it doesn’t even succeed but the fact that any of them make it past the star destroyer is so beyond me

[@lillith3159]

They went just bellow the destroyers where they have way less weapons. The one time hera got near a destroyer it openend fire without problems. Its not so dificult to a fighter to pass through a star destroyer, the problem is actually attacking it because its vital systems are well defended.

[@NonStopEpik]

@@lillith3159 that’s just not true, the point defense systems on a ISD are absolutely lethal to a fighter at close range. What you see here is called plot armor.

[@Ismavolt]

@@NonStopEpik Plot armour... or the turbolasers were on lower power settings.

[@BactaYT]

So you play a video game for a single day, and you think that you're flight ability is equal to rebel fighters who are fighting a high stakes battle after training in flight for their entire life?

[@Brunccool]

It wouldn’t be very interesting if they all died instantly

[@thatonereviewguy5013]

Rebels: Ok guys, lets attack an imperial factory with only one squadron of fighters! *2 mins later* Rebels: Oh gee, where did all these tie fighters come from? Surely not the fatory we're attacking.

[@sn00ke]

*surprised pikachu*

[@bluesquadron8667]

Thats why I dont like Mothma, she sent less than a full squadron to destroy a factory that if it stayed online, would have lead to the destruction of the entire rebellion. She was afraid to fight in a war.

[@whitescar2]

You do realize factories are not the places where pilots get their ships, right? They're packed up and sent to wherever the deployment zone is, where they will be united with pilots either already on station or fresh from the academy. It's not like the Empire has fresh TIE pilots stationed outside their factories, kicking rocks and arm wrestling, just waiting for a TIE to plop off the assembly line for them to jump into... Sure, there are probably loads of TIE fighters there, but not crewed ones. Those TIEs were stationed on Lothal for the purpose of this battle, they wouldn't have been there normally. Or they might have been, but likely defending other settlements, and pooled in to defend the factory at this point in time.

[@marclebret5590]

@@whitescar2 THANK YOU. The comment section is full of stupid salty kid, uncapable of making an educated guess, you up my hopes in SW fans!

[@angelapolinar5343]

@@whitescar2 Tank factories in the CCCP had the crews jump in the finished tank & drive it to the nearest frontline. For all we know the Empire is doing the same considering there's a space battle going on above their heads.

[@datemasamune2904]

I love it when the Empire wins.

[@tymgames8307]

Unfortunately it is very rare since Disney

[@DirtyDozen6612]

@@tymgames8307which is a shame tbh. If they want us to root for the rebels they need the Empire to be competent

[@kevinmcmillin870]

@@DirtyDozen6612 naturally people root for the underdog because the struggle of the underdog is relatable. Rebels don’t struggle in most Star Wars stuff, and they always triumph nearly every battle small and large which inadvertently makes them Goliath when they are supposed to be David

[@tjnugget4066]

Love live the Empire

[@mikeoxmaul45]

3:59 Thrawn: Open fire! -But sir our troops -Just do it!

[@TigerWing141]

Reason is that skerris 4:03

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

If only Thrawn devoted as much time studying his enemies as he does his underlings, he will realise that his factory is extremely vulnerable to Arinda Pryce's tomfoolery.

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

Hera: We've got our opening... Thrawn: Well yes but actually no.

[@DeltaUnited-hq8rq]

"How unfortunate, open fire" -THRAWN 😂😎

[@JediDanD]

I love that Thrawn has no problem opening firing on his own men if they allow their pride to widen their stupidity. Thrawn knows, you play into the enemy's hand, you open yourself up to Darwinism . . .

[@joseangelesrojas6406]

@GrantKP the fact that a X-Wing and Tie Defender both tanked a shot from a Star Destroyer Quad Turbolaser (used for taking down Capital Ships) they should have both just been dead, unfortunately plot armor saves the day I guess.

[@brucechmiel7964]

I think those were the point defense batteries. The way they’re designed resembles the flak cannons on ww2 aircraft carriers. With the barrels lined up like they are offered a greater area of suppression. But I could be wrong. I thought turbo lasers were large dual barreled emplacements.

[@joseangelesrojas6406]

@@brucechmiel7964 yeah I screwed up they arent quads , they are actually octuple turbo laser implacements lol . If you compare the shot to "battlefront 2 all space ship explosions" @ 4:50 you can see its the same implacements firing shown in the rebels episode.

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

@GrantKP he ordered him to break off his pursuit. The ace refused to and got cocky. So thrawn opened fire seeing there was an opportunity. Yes I do agree hera would have still likely died. But it isn't a how long does it take. It's a I need to get rid of them quickly.

[@solastro5595]

To be honest, the x wing should have died but you know plot armour. 24 rebel fighters vs an imperial fleet wow the rebels have plot.

[@richardched6085]

"The Rebels must not reach the planet surface..." All the Fighters that weren't destroyed in orbit crashed into the city. On the surface. Mission failed we'll get em next time.

[@spinodino6170]

I can’t tell if this was a joke or more nitpicking from the comment section

[@sike5227]

Task failed successfully

[@aiosquadron]

Error: Success.

[@richardched6085]

@@spinodino6170 a little bit of both lol

[@ColeEclipse]

@@spinodino6170 both

[@derpynerdy6294]

0:32 laughs in lothal

[@samuelvimes7686]

I really don't like the aesthetics/long necks of those Star Destroyers

[@thatirishgamer1815]

Same with the tie fighters its weird

[@spinodino6170]

They look fine to me

[@omarbaba9892]

Looks a bit wired but I just ignore it

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

I mean they aren't supposed to be nice looking, they are supposed to make you feel uncomfortable. So the designers actually did a great job.

[@razvandobos9759]

Neither do I.

[@georgefeser6483]

5:07 To show you the power of an Imperial light cruiser, I sawed this boat in half!

[@Sir_Raid3n]

Did u repair it with only flex tape tho?

[@georgefeser6483]

@@Sir_Raid3n Yep!

[@Mac14329]

Rebels has such a simplistic art style, and yet they still manage to make things look cool.

[@MichaelCasanovaMusic]

They’ve got a great art team at Lucasarts

[@commandoboss6536]

Am I the only one who finds this beautiful 6:02. Absolutely beautiful!! :)

[@jayjyuri8796]

Nah it’s not very detailed

[@maverickgamesalot6968]

@@jayjyuri8796 A true imperial would know that Commando Boss in not talking about the graphics, but the sight itself. It is not often we see a squadran of rebel fighters being destroyed before our eyes. I beautiful sight it is, every time.

[@assassin492]

Thrawn is literally the only imperial commander I actually respect

[@mauriciomongoy2025]

What about Grand Moff Tarkin?

[@btly-wing6531]

Those Y-Wings that got killed by the second wave of TIE Fighters gave their lives so Rebels could have a shot at ridding itself of excessive plot armor.

[@Mac14329]

"Plot armor" has been a thing since the dawn of fiction.

[@mrgordondobby6124]

And the rebels are considered the good guys, they killed over 46,785 Imperials in this video alone

[@theodorberg8473]

Kytheum Exactly, Their Utter Disregard for life is Alarming

[@halopro8958]

It is a consequence of war. Your number of inflicted casualties doesn't entirely determine who you are, it is your goals.

[@stargatecommand714]

Good, fuck space nazis

[@balookawhale7264]

Mr Gordon Dobby um even if they survived they would still do much worse than what the rebels did

[@anxiousearth680]

@@halopro8958 Yes, exactly. Besides, it's not like they're cheering 'Yay we killed x amount of imps'. No, they cheer because they manage to help people and further their goals.

[@kita3833]

I just feel like that when Thrawn has the rebels on the ropes some High rank fucks up

[@PsYChOtlC_ShArK]

AHEM KONSTANTINE AHEM SCARIS

[@luizwantsaguitar]

24 fighters breach a heavy blockade, take down dozens of fighters, a corvette and a ISD, then defeated by other few dozens of fighters, and some wonder why people complain of this show

[@SYLOVideo]

Funny thing is, this blockade was even more heavily fortified then the one seen at Scarif + had a better commander leading it.

[@sejenunu]

yup. It makes my head hurt to know how weak they made the Empire. Vader was the only true major threat tbh.

[@dutchdragongaming8676]

I am Alive It would've made sense if we're talking about 100 starfighters or so. Maybe with a couple of blockade runners and frigates.

[@Protoss450]

Star Destroyers are NOT made to fight fighters, especially X-Wings. They are made to fight capital ships. Same with the Light Cruisers. They were solely dependent on the TIE Fighters to keep the X-Wings out, and we all know that X-Wings are FAR superior to TIE Fighters. And all it did was take out the command tower of the ISD. The secondary bridge is located in the heart of the ship, near the engine room and core. If it got control of the ISD in time, it may have lived to fight another day, but it was disabled from the fight. The secondary bridge only has power over engines and life support mostly. A whole fleet at Scarif was not needed, since 1) more ships means more people which means easier way for Rebel agents to sneak in and leaks to form 2) it was also a secret construction yard, so moving a massive fleet there would not only compromise other sectors, but also beg the question of why the Empire needed a fleet so large there in the first place. Thrawn knew that his blockade wasn't perfect, and that no matter what, he'll have at least one incompetent man or woman in the fleet that will make a costly mistake that could cause him the battle. He has a massive group of TIE Fighters on stand by just for that contingency, and probably has a solution in case that fails, and probably a solution for that failure.

[@xShadowsithx]

Lol, Thrawn want to trap them in the second wave. It was planed that they break through the space blockade to finish them in the atmosphere. The ISD was only "luck" because the defender pilot (don't know his name actually) didn't follow his orders. But OK, your opinion. See Star Trek Discovery and you will say Rebels is better than that.

[@Aryx3D]

Eh? 4:17 an X wing gets a direct hit in the cockpit from an ISD’s turbolaser. That ship’s dead.

[@ere15xkmc74]

Same with kanan and ezra deflecting tie fighter blaster bolts like they were e 11 blaster bolts

[@ONEIL311]

@@ere15xkmc74 no u can do that in force unleashed and other games

[@ere15xkmc74]

@@ONEIL311 you cant do that in battlefront and other games also

[@tk-6967]

@@ere15xkmc74 Because battlefront also has jedi getting hit by a tank and dying, it is called balancing

[@antilarge7860]

Imagine if this was not a kids show, this would of been a 20 second clip with all the rebels killed

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

Thrawn’s calm, sure planning and the way he always knew what the rebels wanted and how to totally play them is genuinely terrifying. He’s always at least a few steps ahead of them.

[@koraegi]

4:12 the fact that the turbolasers managed to hit a starfighter is fucking incredible considering the empire cant ever seem to hit anything worth a damn

[@richardched6085]

Phoenix Squadron: T-65B X-Wing: 16 BTL-A4 Y-Wing: 8 Vs: 10 Imperial Star Destroyers 16 Arquitens Light Cruisers 12 Gozanti Carrier/Corvettes Tie Fighter: 832 Tie Defender: 1 SECOND WAVE: Tie Fighter: 520 (Planetary Air Force) Losses: Entire Rebel Task Force 120+ Tie Fighters 1 Imperial Star Destroyers 1 Arquitens Light Cruiser Ok given that the Rebels were outgunned 482 to 1. They did EXCEPTIONALLY well.

[@odd-ov4gf]

Stupidly well, succeeded breaking through blockade because the plot deemed it.

[@derlasercrafterwally4342]

No Phoenix Squadron, but Rebel alliance Welcome to the Original Trilogy

[@derlasercrafterwally4342]

Phoenix Squadron used A Wings

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@odd-ov4gf Because Thrawn allowed them to. It's his bait trap.

[@anxiousearth680]

@@memecliparchives2254 There's no need for a trap.

[@lornadsdooned9635]

A direct, i repeat, *direct* hit feom a freaking ISD turbolaser. And all it does is fut off her power like an ion blast. Plot armor truly is the thickest...

[@cousin_x_caps7347]

Lornads Dooned Ever hear of something called shields?

[@sicksadworld765]

@@cousin_x_caps7347 bruh have you ever watched the movies? Have you ever seen something like this 4:52

[@cousin_x_caps7347]

anderer Hase aka Florida Man Yes, when the A-wing pilot rams the Executor, which then crashes into the Death Star in ROTJ.

[@sicksadworld765]

@@cousin_x_caps7347 the wings fall of

[@cousin_x_caps7347]

anderer Hase aka Florida Man Obi-wans heat dissipater got show off by Anakin in ROTS, other than that no. But to be fair normal TiE wings are so huge, they are basically asking to get shot.

[@chr0min0id]

4:52 Honestly the most metal way to go as a star fighter pilot

[@CaptainM792]

They should set up a planetary shield like that one in orbit of Scarif.

[@aceflyer25]

not needed, Lothal is still a backwater plant even with the factory on it. the shield on scarif covered the empires most high classified data. spending the resources of a shield like that on lothal would be a major waste when you can just build more star destroyers to make a bigger blockade

[@sandwichfighter7655]

Also, let's not forget that these things probably cost a lot of credits.

[@4600norm]

Then a theater shield like the Rebels used at Hoth. It is inconceivable an important Imperial installation like that would not only have a theater shield, but also heavy turbolaser and ion cannon emplacements, as well as point defense laser cannons and concussion missile launchers, and a garrison of fighter squadrons. Awful writing as usual with both Hollywood in general and Star Wars in particular.

[@clone9159]

@@4600norm yes good idea

[@sylquinn4075]

So Hera could kill a TIE Defender, light cruiser, ISD, AND shield station with 1 shot? Yeeeaahhh, no, and that's what they'd do if you added such a station.

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

Credit where it's due, the only times Thrawn loses in this show are due to either insubordination or space whale deus ex machinas.

[@pouncerlion4022]

Hey now, did I just see a Star Wars X-wing actually act like it was a space fighter instead of a glorified aero fighter? Hell yeah!

[@follandmatt]

Well the move Hera used is called a “Cobra Maneuver”. Although it’s kind of modified for the sake of the show. Although most real planes that can perform the cobra use vectored thrust.

[@mikasa_Ackerman115]

​@@follandmatt they are in space

[@Nomed183]

when you auto-resolve a battle in empire at war

[@lucassanchez9050]

Watching those terrorist fighter come crashing down was just beautiful

[@ianbaker672]

The Holocron Chambers oh it’s beautiful

[@lucassanchez9050]

Aspiring Marauder Read "Inferno Squad". I dont have time to list the countless atrocities of the alliance to restore the republic.

[@lucassanchez9050]

Aspiring Marauder The profanity was a bit unnecessary. First off, the dreamers/partisans in no way solely focused on military targets. How about the partisan strike on that world close to Naboo where they targeted civilians or the dreamers attack on those children touring a factory which was stopped by Seyn Marana, an Imperial Agent. Mon Mothma's rebellion served with Saw Garrera on multiple occasions' but officially denounced him so he could do the dirtier work. In the mean time, the mainstream rebellion assassinated political figures that opposed them, uses child soldiers, sabotaged public infrastructure such as seen in "Inferno Squad" in which a public tram is sabotaged by rebels killing multiple civilians, bombings of public events, torture and execution of POWs, attacks on free trade organizations, cannibalism of the dead and desecration of their bodies, and the execution of one of the Empire's more humane admirals, Grand Admiral Osvald Teshik for non existing war crimes. The Empire replaced a corrupt Republic solely focused on profiteering rather than peace and order. The Empire brought this stability. It was these Rebel terrorists that screwed it all up. Even the New Republic was just as corrupt with blackmail, bribery, and throwing in with the First Order for a profit. The Empire is peace, security, and order.

[@lucassanchez9050]

Aspiring Marauder You're mother didnt teach you proper manners, I'm guessing. We're having a political debate. Not a bitch fest for children. So take a deep breath and relax. The Empire has been constantly at war with crime organizations, pushing them back to the literal edge of the galaxy. This can be shown by the practical dissolution of the Black Sun post formation of the Galactic Empire. The Empire's dealings with criminals as seen in "Inferno Squad" was basically to have snitches to rat out on the real targets. Life was better under the Empire than it was the Republic to be fair. The Empire changed the galaxy from a failed democracy that left civilians in the dark while favoring private corporations. Watch The Clone Wars and you'll see what I mean. Civilians were constantly getting screwed over by a selfish and ignorant Senate. I agree that the Imperial Military should be less focused on infighting, but in the end, it is skill that ensures progression, not birthright as can be seen with an outsider such as Thrawn. The Sithnn as can be seen in A New Hope, had no effect on the galaxy. People were free to practice their own religions so long as they didnt interfere with the workings of society. The Protectors of the Whills were allowed in Jedha city unmolested by the Empire. Religious Tolerance wins the day once again. Also, you hypocrite, the Chiss Ascendancy that you describe is Legends material. The New Canon Chiss Ascendancy is now very unknown once again. Damn. How has are argument come to this? Look. It's late where I am. I'm getting tired. Can we just agree that the Empire is good, the Rebels are terrorists and be done with this? And if we go into Legends, I can justify all of the Empire with 2 words. Yuzhan Vong.

[@alexrivera1789]

Aspiring Marauder wow your very mature buddy

[@googleisspyingonyou598]

There is no reason the rebels should have lasted beyond a minute in this battle.

[@johnny.V03]

1:30 They might have numbers but we have skill *dies immediately*

[@guibin]

4:48 "Let me show you a little trick I learned!"

[@blueofthelightanddark6273]

Lieutenant Joe “Lightning” Little, Red Tails “Lightning, when are you going to learn this is not a game.” - “Easy” Julian I’m surprised nobody reference Hera’s kill maneuver to Red Tails.

[@vote4dahv411]

I love it! Shows Thrawn's genius, plus all the rebels die!

[@et3inuyasha]

0:38 I waited SO LONG to hear that line again...

[@Barrobroadcastmaster]

Herra took out an ace Imperial TIE pilot, a light cruiser and a Star Destroyer in a single shot. Damn.

[@rulue8610]

Yeah, that's how she do me a favour

[@thepilot224]

I remember in the original trilogy when tie fighters were actually a threat. In a new hope, Luke is said to be the best pilot in the outer rim territories, but during the death star assault he couldn't get a tie fighter of his back and needed wedge's help. But here it's like anything short of an ace pilot in a tie defender is no match. The continued lack of quality in show has me worried for the future of star wars.

[@Cybermat47]

Worried for the future? TIE Fighters have been inferior to X-Wings forever, in both Legends and Canon. Luke couldn’t get a TIE off his back in ANH because: 1) It was his first time flying an X-Wing. 2) It was his first combat flight. 3) Maneuverability is one of the only aspects in which the TIE/LN is superior to an X-Wing 4) In Legends, the TIE pilot was part of Darth Vader’s elite squadron, Black Squadron. 5) In Canon, the TIE pilot was part of Sigma Squadron, which included highly-skilled and efficient pilots such as Iden Versio. In Legends, the only TIE models equal to an X-Wing were such high-end models as the Advanced X1, Defender, and Avenger.

[@thepilot224]

So I guess here every tie pilot except commander scares is completely incompetent? Even if all of them had below average skill (which would be odd as this is Thrawn's fleet) the rebels should have been hopelessly out numbered. As you probably know Imperial Star Destroyers can hold up to 72 tie fighters each (of witch there are at least seven here), and in this case there are also transports that are launching addition fighters, (I count nine) all with four tie fighters each. That's a maximum of 540 tie fighters. Even if that number is exaggerated, that's over one and a half dozen tie fighters for each x-wing and y-wing. The rebel pilots may be skilled but doesn't mean they can engage ties while evading fire from other fighters. (Edit) And it may be true that the tie pilots on the death star were elite, but that doesn't mean that all other pilots in the Empire just learned how to fly.

[@lillith3159]

they all get destroyed at the end by a bunch of tie fighters so...why the complains?

[@thepilot224]

They may of had that many but they clearly did not deploy tens of thousands of tie fighters at the battle of Yavin. As you can see in the movie and in the book inferno squad, they are far too confident to accept that there is actual danger from the rebel ships, so they only deploy a few squadrons. And I'm sure there's a legends explanation too.

[@Icybubba]

That's why Thrawn is working so hard to get the empire to use the TIE Defenders. I mean standard TIE Fighters are weak as hell compared to X-Wings, this is established fact they are more like A Wings and even then A Wings are still better. TIE Defenders on the other hand are TIE Fighters on crack, they have shields (unlike standard TIE's), they have a torpedo system, they are faster, they have better cannon's, and they are equipped with a hyperdrive. TIE Defenders are so good that they have been confirmed better than X-Wings and Pablo Hidalgo said that if the empire had chosen to use TIE Defenders they would have won the Galactic Civil War.

[@smokingwood215]

Apparently the main character’s x-wing is the only one that has shields and can survive a big ass turbolaser shot, while the rest get literally one tapped

[@SYLOVideo]

It's called "plot armor" 😜

[@Anchor-Supreme]

Hera’s X-Wing _and_ a Tie Defender really just tanked a blast from a freaking turbo laser cannon. _Aight._

[@angelapolinar5343]

I've seen a whole bunch of arguments about how powerful those lasers are, like 4K Czar Bombs worth, and I just point at this scene and say "you sure about that?"

[@Mitchmeow]

This animation looks weird. I can see their mouths moving, they don't have to bob their heads like goddamn Red vs Blue characters every time they speak.

[@Felipe03000]

Mitchmeow lmaio

[@lucassanchez9050]

Mitchmeow Love the reference

[@0wolabi97]

Mitchmeow #roasted

[@firingallcylinders2949]

I can't unsee this now. They literally bob their heads at the end of every emphasis.

[@fotzegamingandmedia1840]

Why do the all the ships move so fucking slow, but in the clone wars 18 years in the past their all so fast?

[@chr0min0id]

I know that Star Wars Rebels usually gets a bad rap, but at least they made the TIE Defender and Thrawn canon…

[@harounankazianga2784]

5:09... decapitation.

[@tyrelljohnson2872]

Harounan Kazianga lol

[@skyslasher2297]

Harounan Kazianga by any chance do you watch Brandon tenold cause that’s where I heard that sound bite

[@airiercub9980]

Decapitalization xd got it? No? CAPITAL ship? Decapitation? No? Ok then...

[@a.morphous66]

You want decapitation? Watch the Battle of Scarif.

[@gonkdroid8279]

This reminds me of how much I love Rebels, gotta rewatch it sometime

[@residentidiocracy7342]

this reminds me of how much i hate rebels and the fucking degree of plot armour

[@thatgermanboy7556]

I could watch this video over and over again. Cuz it's Star Wars😍

[@Suplee2]

Good Good, Rebels dropping like flies.

[@alpinewolf7751]

For once the plot armor was weak with this one

[@clone9159]

@@alpinewolf7751 no it was still strong

[@mick2998]

Can we just appreciate Hera's shot at 3:00? Seriously, it's not unfeasible, considering he tight formation, but man, is that really well done.

[@dsmtgaming1763]

Its not 3:00, its at 3:04….

[@TNC6]

One of favourite star wars rebels scene by far

[@StarshadowStudiosRS]

5:05: Lucas: OK, Can someone get my magazine?

[@thedragon133]

0:10 Sir, our caps prevent us from seeing anything. May we take them off or be blown to bits like the imperial protocol dictates?

[@Guardsman66]

"They have the numbers but we got skill." Tell that to every Rebel pilot that died.

[@abhinavbhargava978]

The pilot who said that is among the rebel pilots who died. Her death is at 2:56-2:57

[@MrSprattibaggs]

Judging by that sound effect at 0:11, I'd be more worried about the Mandalorian explosive about to go off in the bridge.

[@PyroTeamFort2]

“They may have numbers but we have skill” A few moments later... 5:47

[@corvus8752]

4:46 Best empire pilot death of all times

[@caneti41]

dumbest death of all times killed by a x wing with its s foils closed

[@sicksadworld765]

Why the wings just falling away? Schould'nt it blow up inszeantly?! And by the way this emotional scream

[@corvus8752]

This scream reminds me of MichealP

[@derpynerdy6294]

4:54 lmao I laugh so hard

[@ryleynations6251]

Can Eti S Foils don’t have to be open to shoot

[@guitarplayer4863]

Hera pulled Pugachev's Cobra, I'd recognize that move anywhere.

[@guitarplayer4863]

DEEPFOXJUDE It's a military aerobatic maneuver.

[@guitarplayer4863]

DEEPFOXJUDE My pleasure.

[@quoniam426]

The kind of maneuver Russian kept failing to od in airshows, resulting in a MIG crash several times...

[@guitarplayer4863]

Quo Niam How so?

[@quoniam426]

They did at least once fucked it up at Paris Bourget airshow back in the 90's. They kept going up and stalled the aircraft. Fortunately, the pilot(s) pulled the ejection handle in time and survived.

[@tet1019]

5:15 A DOG

[@yeaiamtrill]

Seems like a wookie

[@imppro]

catty gaming That's the ugliest Wookiee I have ever seen.

[@christopherkillian3368]

Canopus IV that is actually a lutrillian

[@ticklemetanner-mobilelegen2212]

I wish dogs exists but they're speaking

[@spinodino6170]

Tet 101 look more like a seal but that just me

[@OldJohann]

0:15 Who is THAT? An imperial officer with an actual face, but NO NAME? UNHEARD OF!

[@timwarriner38]

Captain Gilad Pellaeon I believe. He was Thrawn's 2ic in the original Thrawn storyline but didn't get much attention this time round. One other thing they said in that video there were 24 craft, I only saw 12.

[@OldJohann]

@@timwarriner38 I looked it up. It is not Pellaeon.

[@timwarriner38]

@@OldJohann It isn't? Curious...

[@OldJohann]

@@timwarriner38 odd indeed.

[@omarbaba9892]

Everyone talking about plot armour meanwhile rex and other named clones constantly survive battles of impossible odds

[@smokingpiggy5425]

Except 99 hardcase colt keeli fives Denal ridge Vaughn axe slammer charger heavy droidbait cutup Gregor fil longshot gree

[@smokingpiggy5425]

Probably a lot more

[@mechcannon]

What aboutism

[@claytonedwards852]

Okay so let me straighten this all out. Hera takes out an advanced prototype TIE Defender flown by an ace pilot. The TIE Defender then crashed into a light imperial cruiser. The damaged cruiser then sheared through the command deck of a star destroyer, rendering it inoperable and unfit for battle. By the transit of property, Hera took out a TIE Defender, a cruiser, and a star destroyer with one shot. Hera Syndulla is thusly the greatest combat pilot in the Star Wars canon.

[@balookawhale7264]

Clayton Edwards well like Luke destroyed a whole Death Star so Hera is second

[@marrqi7wini54]

@@balookawhale7264 He used the force though. Also if you're going to add force sensitives, then Anakin is the best.

[@Gramuel021]

And Gimli says, “That still only counts as one!”.

[@Barsi429]

I dunno..it was a bit too much for me XD

[@CosmicFoxbat]

4:47 Maverick likes that.

[@KnightRevan]

I just noticed... Hera did a cobra maneuver 4:47 amazing. In fact the X wing has a thrust vectoring but I did't notice when a saw this at the first time.

[@firehazzard8497]

5:19 Thats not how gravity works.

[@Cybermat47]

A New Hope: A single squadron of Y-Wings, a single squadron of T-65 X-Wings, and a YT-1300 freighter attack a massive, armoured, planet-killing space station covered in turbolasers and defended by elite TIE/LN pilots, and Darth Vader flying a TIE/AD. No major characters die, both Rebel squadrons still have ships intact, and they complete their mission completely. The Force Awakens: A single squadron of T-70 X-Wings attacks a planet converted into an armoured, solar system-killer covered in turbolasers and SAM launchers, and defended by multiple squadrons of TIE/FOs and TIE/SFs. No major characters die (in the ship-to-ship combat), the Resistance squadron still has ships intact, and they complete their mission completely. Rebels: A single squadron of T-65 X-Wings and a single squadron of Y-Wings attack factories defended by a Imperial Fleet not designed to destroy enemy snubfighters, TIE/LN pilots, and an ace pilot in a TIE/D. No major characters die, all Rebel ships are *lost* , and they *fail* their mission completely. But apparently Rebels is the one with plot armour.

[@ZachCremisiSky]

A new hope 3 to 4 ships lived. Force awakens similar number. Granted Thrawn won bevause he thinks ahead unlike the other 2 commanders who sent only a portion.

[@Cybermat47]

attackmaster555 I think you replied to the wrong comment.

[@Pointblankmos]

This is a single scene. Of all the battles that have taken place in Star Wars Rebels, not one major (or in most cases, minor) character has died. To say that there's no plot armour in rebels is naive.

[@IantoddusSardus]

A single squadron of Y-Wings, a single squadron of T-65 X-Wings, and a YT-1300 freighter attack a massive, armoured, planet-killing space station covered in turbolasers and defended by elite TIE/LN pilots, and Darth Vader flying a TIE/AD it didn't went this way and you know it

[@Cybermat47]

IantoddusSardus have you ever seen A New Hope?

[@EntryLevelLuxury]

Love the cycling of the Phantom's lasers

[@landonm1872]

If you think about it, the rebel alliance is protected by plot armor, 20 some star destroyers can stop 20 x wings and bombers with admiral Thrawn.

[@Blacksmith__]

The Empire would never let one of their pilots put special colorful markings on their craft. Antithetical to the anti-individualist philosophy of the Imperial military

[@sugdolomar]

Bennett Harnisch when you're under thrawn's command you can put paint jobs.

[@saithememe4657]

Grand Inquisitor Sug The Dark Clone of Gus no its becuse its still a prototype ship

[@sugdolomar]

imperial trooper or it's because the craft is affiliated with Skerris. He does have yellow stripes on his flight uniform.

[@saithememe4657]

Grand Inquisitor Sug The Dark Clone of Gus oh ok my bad

[@SpecialistFeature]

Thrawn is cool tho. He also will rather let you learn from your mistakes rather than kill you.

[@abaronofchivalry5176]

Imagine if this show actually portrayed how insanely powerful octuple turbo lasers are

[@tk-6967]

Clone Wars made Munificents look weak too

[@ihn-90]

The return of a legend

[@ZinXlX]

I keep getting reminded how terribad the Empire's anti-starfighter capabilities are. 24 Starfighters Vs. a full fleet of ships in blockade formation but it still could not stop this small group from breaking through that line. Only reason they failed was cuz Thrawn was conscious enough to know how god awful their AA was and prepared additional fighter waves to clear out these small ships.

[@named9192]

Me talking to my friends how the enemy team took a control point in Battlefront: 3:12

[@harwickbranch]

I love how Skerris refuses to get out of the way so Thrawn just lets him get killed

[@abhinavbhargava978]

Thrawn did warn him to break off his pursuit, but he didn't listen, too focused on shooting Hera.

[@captpenguinlord7208]

I like how they added in the re- entry sonic boom when the fighters came in

[@derlasercrafterwally4342]

"Lock S-Foiles in attack position" cries in Y Wing

[@earthriseproductions654]

What’s everyone complaining about? This was like the best six minutes of the series! Except for the fact that it would never have worked. But it was still a groundbreaking action scene for a show like Rebels.

[@earthriseproductions654]

Whoa now. I don't remember saying realistic, I just said enjoyable. And if you're wondering, those two things are completely disconnected. Star Wars is one of the most unrealistic franchises out there, frequently forgetting the basic laws of physics in space, such as there is no up or down or even that there is no gravity, but at the same time it's arguably the best franchise in modern history. I was simply able to suspend reality in order to enjoy the scene. And on that subject, I don't remember saying this is better than Clone Wars. I would. NEVER. Say anything so treasonous to a TV show so good it's better than some of the movies. A kid's show that's not afraid to get dark for the sake of older viewers. A show that doesn't let the fact that kids are watching get in the way of telling a good story, with good dialogue and character development, all conveyed through brilliant animation. This show on the other hand, not only looks plastic, but the storytelling is just as lifeless. The voice actors do a good job with what they're given, but too often they're not given anything. There are good episodes, like the Season 2 finale, but even those are bogged down with ridiculous childish antics like helicopter blades. So when I say this is the best six minutes of the show, I don't mean it's a particularly GOOD six minutes. I don't mean it's a realistic six minutes, and I don't mean that it's not the most forgettable battle in Star Wars. I just meant that, purely from an action standpoint, the action felt more real than most of the circus acts the show has given us so far, which in my mind is a step in the right direction. Also I find it funny how anyone who likes Disney or EA is called a pawn or a sheep, when in the toxic environment of the Internet it takes more guts and original thought to support said companies (and I DO NOT support EA btw).

[@saithememe4657]

just saying the 'physics' that you say are ignored have perfect explainations. like repulser lift generators

[@SeanKL107]

Aquarius Mandolin it’s fucking Star Wars! It’s not supposed to be realistic and ITS ALWAYS HAD PLOT ARMOR SINCE 1977!

[@darthvader8164]

As someone who has seen the badassery of the Clone Wars Micro Series, The Clone Wars TV Show, and Episodes 3 and 6, this battle looks like dog shit. It literally looks like just 2 fighters are trying to kill everyone else. Episodes 1, 4, and 7 had better space battles than this, even though their space battles weren’t large in scale.

[@saithememe4657]

Darth Vader the 12 Y wings against grevios ship were elite piolets and they still got shot down (8) and the jedi nearly died

[@masterofmasturbation7327]

thrawn is genius hes plan is to lore the rebels (xwings) into lothal as u can see he didnt rvrn attack them while in space

[@smithonme1888]

I left when the tie defender, a ship known to be able to 1v1 capital ships and win was destroyed by like two shots.

[@jj_b5400]

The Defender is clearly shown to have lost all its shields after a direct turbolaser hit.

[@max4377jk]

Imagine being an Imperial and watching a dozens X-Wings take out a squadron of Tie Fighters, a light frigate and a star destroyer Time for an early retirement