Synology 2025 Predictions - Leaks - Rumours - Releases

[@ajv_2089]

I am so tired of everything turning into a subscription, that’s the whole reason why I got a NAS. If Synology moves to this model I’ll have to look for alternatives

[@nascompares]

To be fair to them, it's strictly the enterprise DP top tier for this atm

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

​​@@nascomparesonce a company introduces this model for one business unit it's very likely they'll be tempted to spread it to their consumer business as well. I mean we all know Synology is extra greedy, so I won't be surprised at all

[@colonelccccc]

If they dare do this, no other choice but to build a box with Linux, and truly, we should start looking into that.

[@moogs]

@@nascompares they’re prepping for it. Surveillance station for example

[@regwatson2017]

@@nascompares Yeah - test the waters and then scale down.....

[@regwatson2017]

The whole point of people buying a NAS is to avoid the ongoing fees of the backup services currently. I for one will ditch my NAS if Synology dare to charge me a subscription for use of DSM or whatever. I will just revert back to USB External drives.

[@popquizzz]

Still rock'n my DS918+ with 32GB ram

[@windfire5380]

I want 2.5Gbit to be the baseline. Seems so basic these days. I love the UI and app maturity on my DS918 (4x 10TB) but prefer the speed of my Asustor FS6706T (6x 4TB).

[@markmonroe7330]

10g copper. Accept no less. Every NAS made today needs to have this as a default.

[@tomadur6212]

DS925+ with Intel N100 and 2.5 Gbit-LAN. This would be a HIT.

[@nascompares]

Yes, yes it bloody well would

[@jasperverkroost]

The 426+ probably will have an n100.

[@Nasguy-b7q]

It would, but a shame to me. This should have been done a while ago and they shouldn't have forced hardware. They lost not only me but others in the field as well, and I won't come back now. The competition took advantage of their poor choices and the competition is good by me. A silly move that lost users, damn shame .

[@7rich79]

As much as I really like the Synology interface, and also like the simplicity of their SHR and general apps, they really are pushing me in the direction of the Ugreen DXP6800 Pro (warts and all).

[@ZesusKryst]

And just like that, they dropped video station. And indeed, I am not amused at all.

[@rmccas]

Im quite disapointed with synology as im a customer since they started. Unfortunately they got greedy and the units are always under spec,expensive, and to use premium features you were forced to use their hardware for premium features (NVME volumes) that costs a fortune. Then you have subscriptions and now more paid features to be available as new models come out. Dont give me the same excuse over and over stating this is enterprise. Synology is not enterprise and will never be if you compare it with other brands. For me im done with them. I had 6 units several models and got rid of all just because of this. they wont get any more money from me. There are far better options available out there and the cheaper and with better performance. currently i use DYI nas and QNAP.

[@colonelccccc]

If Synology gets rid of Audio Station/Video Station, I'm not upgrading my NAS to a new one anymore and see no reasons to buy their products. I bought the convenience of not having to do this myself, but I can perfectly assemble a box with better hardware performance for streaming, time is money and if Syno stops offering me that, I will put my money and time elsewhere.

[@nascompares]

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[@DavidM2002]

Hey Synology, how about expanding support of NVME storage pools to the DS920+ .

[@jasperverkroost]

And while they're at it, for the 918+ as well.

[@BobHannent]

Having gone to Qnap a few years ago, I absolutely miss Synology DSM. If, as you say, Synology is having financial troubles, then I think they'll be looking for ways to save money. Not just licensing, but video station can't be cheap to maintain. Rehashing old hardware is another way of saving money while keeping the marketing machine moving. An 18 month old product can't sell at the same price as a new one.

[@Nasguy-b7q]

@BobHannent once you get used to QTS I don't miss DSM. It does work different with more 3rd party and options. But once deployed they just work and perform very well on the network. That is what I care about is fire and forget. QNAP has a ton of options and features that we will never see in DSM. I don't miss dsm anymore and I certainly am estatatic to be rid of the company and their stupidity and treating me like an ATM and not like a client. QNAP isn't perfect but they are approachable and reasonable and are putting effort forth on product and relationship.

[@dwight2310]

RS1225+ ASAP

[@Ghericksonandson]

Synology needs new intel or amd with integrated graphics! It’s a joke to see a nas without integrated graphics

[@Act1veSp1n]

It would make perfect sense if they got 12th/13th/14th gen Intels with AV1 encoding/decoding - no license fees.

[@BigBoxLittleBox]

Want to see more offerings for multi-bay NVMe AND multi-bay SATA SSD NAS Devices with Intel CPUs that support QuickSync (iGPU transcoding).

[@nascompares]

That's he dream...

[@vonEitzen]

Wonder if there will ever be a replacement for the DS620slim…

[@jasperverkroost]

If there will be one, it most likely will have NVMe slots instead of 2,5 bays.

[@W9HJBill]

I wonder if you have any thoughts on possible changes to their 2025 lineup now that Unifi has released their $499 rack mounted 7 bay NAS with built in 10GbE?

[@BH-ModernTimes]

I'm an average NAS consumer currently owning 2-bay Synology NAS which I bough several years ago: it was affordable and available -which was the only reason why I decided for Synology. For past several months I'm looking after "home" 4-bay NAS and all I can say is: Synology is dead, non existent for me. I don't care if and how successful Synology is in enterprise market, but Synology's consumer offers are.. embarrassing -and that's for many years now. All PC mainboards made in last 3+ years have 2.5G port built-in, meanwhile we can buy 2.5G switches for 60€, SATA (and even M.2) SSD's have become an option price wise... and Synology is still "defending" that 1G is good enough for us? Let's face it: Synology is abandoning consumer segment or just doesn't care. And I don't care about Synology either. The only argument that speaks for Synology is "friendly" OS compared to competition -where all of them offer MUCH better hardware. Reviewers many time present competition OS-es as "ok, is not that bad", which somehow implies as "barely usable" and so many are almost afraid to take the risk by switching the brand. At this point I wish to thank the author of this video for his great job in all past years! Bogdan

[@Nasguy-b7q]

That is the sentiment of many. They blew up their client base for poor management decisions. So many have left the brand, and they continue to squeeze every nickel out of those left and put their future into a heavily competitive market where users just don't switch brands often at that level because of the risk, seems foolish to me. If the competition fell asleep they could have gotten away with it, but they actually listened and made solid moves. QNAP has transformed itself in the last few years. Their software has been improved much better than synology improved their hardware. To boot they added bit defender to the core os with the last 3 or so releases. A masterstroke to build confidence. Synology made their bed and it will cost them more each day...

[@Act1veSp1n]

@@Nasguy-b7q Its probably some EXEC at the top that has 0 idea about customer base that's making these decisions. This is the unfortunate time when Greedy / Step-On-Dead-Bodies assholes got their jobs at the top of the companies.

[@Bob_Smith19]

923+ needs to have a modern Intel CPU, and 2.5 lan minimum. If not I am going though the pain and switching to another brand. A lot of people use these devices for multimedia servers and Ryzen is a horrible choice for that. They stand no chance in the Enterprise market. They’re destroying the existing user base to chase clients they will never land.

[@jasperverkroost]

It seems like the only 4-bay model that will have an Intel CPU in the future is the 4xx+.

[@Nasguy-b7q]

I hear ya and agree... releasing the 423 and focusing only on amd in this market was a major blunder. It told all of us what they were all about, no thanks... side by side the 923 and the 464 the network performance is literally the same, but you loose all the benefits of integrated Intel and pay at least double the price for m2s and drives. You are also right the big shops I know all use Dell and won't be leaving a known solution for synology. Synology literally makes zero sense anymore, end of story.

[@Dextermorga]

People be honest with your self the main reason why we are buying Synology is not hardware but software.

[@kirchnha]

Unfortunately, the moderator talks too much. I would have expected a bit more information from the guest.

[@MarcusOSullivan123]

Hi guys, is now a good time to go for the DS1522+ or should I wait a little longer. I already have the OWC Thunderbay 4 DAS but wanted to consider a proper NAS (rather than turning my OWC into a NAS using TrueNAS and second PC).

[@cecilhudgins6569]

Looking for a DAS storage solution. How do you like the OWC Thunder Bay 4.

[@bikerchrisukk]

I really wanted to try Synology for a long time because of photo and security camera video storage features, but if subs extend from SMB to home users, I'll probably stick with TrueNAS. It mostly does all that I need. Terrific chat guys 👍

[@peerview]

I had the same concert about Ai and the CPU of 1821+ but, sure if I want to have those kind of services I probably will want it to a dedicated machine more than in a NAS. Super happy to have finally had find a good deal few weeks ago of the 1821+ fully fledge.

[@victormedina2269]

Love your videos! I have a hot spare in my Synology 1522 and need to increase the volume. How do I add the hot spare to the existing volume?

[@harpersneil]

Heard rumours of DS Video being discontinued. Anyone else hear the same?

[@kruuger78]

Yep, it is out with latest dsm manual update.

[@harpersneil]

@@kruuger78 Update: I've migrated over to Plex and it's been flawless. I originally tried Plex back in 2013 and didn't think much of it - it's come a LONG way since then. Thanks for your response.

[@sebba8054]

Without DSVideo.... It's without me.... How is the next fonctonnalities removed of Synology?

[@nrjonesy]

Been thinking about buying a DS923+ as an online backup unit for my DS1621+ recently, maybe I might wait to see what's coming out before I pull the trigger. 2.5Gb would be a plus although may end up adding 10Gb as I doubt it will come as standard. Drive compatibility is still a bit annoying as would prefer to run all Red Pro drives so if I ever wanted to repurpose drives out my backup unit, into my main unit, they'd be up to similar speeds/transfer rates.

[@PeteN75]

QNAP TS-464-8G (4-bay) NAS with DSM including SHR file system would be the perfect solution. This model beats DS923+ or DS423+ in all aspects (better CPU, 8GB RAM, 2.5gb network, NVME supports most of the brands either as cache or pool)

[@Nasguy-b7q]

It is the best value 4 bay Nas with the 453e right behind it. QTS is much better these days, so much has been improved in just the last few years. The unlocked nature of the supported hardware and the sophisticated options for m2.nvme really made it a great solution. They added bit defender as part of the os, they took the ramsomware very seriously. Drobo and synology have flexible raid, but it hurts performance and drive are cheap these days so not a big loss for my applications. They listened to the market, sadly Synology has gone the opposite direction...

[@PeteN75]

@@Nasguy-b7q good points thank you!

[@Act1veSp1n]

We ALREADY pay a TON for these devices where hardware is outdated by 5-6 years. The price is at least 2-3x of the actual hardware. Synology should be able to pay for 20c/year license to keep the device for 10 years(natural life of electronics).

[@ChipLinck]

What I'm wondering is if this means the BC500 is discontinued, and the CS500B will also allow local storage, the BC500 will be back, or they are abandoning local storage cameras and only going with cloud storage. I had one of my BC500's ripped off the house by some roofers, and it was damaged. I replaced it with an Axis camera since the BC500 is sold out. It is a superior camera in most respects, but it was also a lot more expensive. I"m going to move to a multi-acreage property next year, and I wanted a fleet of BC500's for several areas due to the cost and features. It was going to allow me to only buy more expensive Axis cameras for areas that needed it. I guess I need to start looking for cheaper NDAA cameras in case, but I really liked the AI integration of the BC500 with Surveillance Station. The Axis camera integrates with Surveillance station to a degree, but I still use the on camera alerts for some situations.

[@yahlov]

Wainting for the RS1225+ 💀

[@nascompares]

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[@SearchFinger]

My raspberry pi nas is starting to look very attractive. ;-)

[@Nasguy-b7q]

QuTS 5.2 just released, speaking of software...

[@_PITBOY]

btw ... Im late, but thanks for the new mic for Eddie some time ago. I dont need to instantly turn the video off anymore, and run away screaming mercilessly into the void. That said - Here's a NAS question - and no, I dont expect an answer here at all, this is more about a potential future video. Am I an 'average' user? I am very successfully and enjoyably still running a DS918+ as a file server for us all at home here, with RAM and M.2 Cache bays stocked full, and running 4 various sized Seagate drives running SHR. And ... No, I dont run plex or any heavy multimedia on this system, and although 2.5G LAN would be nice and its supported by my computer, I certainly dont 'need' anything faster than that. 10G is irrelevant. I also run a one bay local backup USB drive that once a week auto runs USB Backup for each user, and once a month it auto backs up mission critical folders to dropbox. All that known - Do I need to spend $800+ Canadian to trade up to a 2025 version of this NAS (DS925+), just to satisfy the 'new toy' algorithm? Is there any point? Is the 2.5G LAN worth the cost? I dont really need the USB-C or the 10G upgradability. And ... if it ever exists ... should I move from a single local backup drive, to these new DP320 / DP420 backup solutions when and if these little desktop versions come out? Will their Active Backup OS be compatible with this use case? Will this be safer with a setup like this? Or should I move to a 2 Bay Synology drive and run Synology Active Backup or Drive Share Sync? Maybe its time for a video for those of us who bought in almost 7 years ago, and wondering if they should upgrade ... and how.

[@Yandarval]

As you have a USB 3.0 port on the back. You could use a USB 2.5gb NIC adapter. It really comes down to how comfortable you are using third party drivers on your machine. DP340 etc are all full on rack mounted enterprise solutions. Utterly overkill for your needs. "if" the desktop versions ever see the light of day. Its going to come down to how much you want to pay for one. How much of a big deal will Active protect be for you. Do both ends of the network have to have Active protect? You will be likely better off with a normal two bay for your backups and use the existing backup and sync options. You using your NAS as it was intended, a file server. Everything else is just whistles and bells you can use if you wish.

[@Nasguy-b7q]

My moments where i walked on Synology was the focus on the amd processors, the requirement for their m2 for just a silly pool, and the 423 which i literally thought was a gag until i confirmed it. They haven't updated their hardware or software in any meaningful way in a long time. And they are dumping money into a market i highly doubt they will have any real penetration... they are done, they just haven't noticed yet. Ugreen is the hardware heavyweight and QNAP is the software and hardware vendor of choice, and they deserve it with the relentless work they have done in the last 3 years...

[@GerardoGTapia]

Please, sell a perpetual license or a DSM subscription and we as customers will take care of installing decent hardware.

[@moustange]

Deprecated, not depreciated! Sorry to be a correction dude, but we're all entitled to one thing that irritates the bejaysus out of you.

[@jasperverkroost]

Most likely there won't be a 925+ and 725+, but a 926+, 726+ and 426+ (at least, that is to be expected based on the timelines of the last two iterations). From those the only NAS to look forward to surprisingly enough is the 426+ as it will most likely contain a new Intel CPU (n100 or similar) well suited for Plex users.

[@rubencaceiro3776]

I used a lot VideoStation before, but now with h265 and more state of the art codecs for Audio and video, video station isn't able of decode the files, the lack of a gpu turns everything even more down. I really like Synology ecosystem but their hardware is more and more focused on enterprise and less and less about prosumer/media. The prosumer ones are lacking so much with weak cpus, no gpus, only with Gbe that it becomes harder and harder to think about Synology. I like their suite of apps I love the OS but without eggs we cannot do an omelette. I cannot justify a 6bay or 8bay deskop or rack with a embedded amd cpu to cost 1k 1.5k is prohibitive, for this prices I except and ryzen 3 at least with a GPU.

[@andyhey4576]

Eddie's face looks as dissapointmess of what Synology is going to deliver. And .. I am not surprised. Time to switch to QNAP, Eddie !!!!

[@moogs]

Synology is utter garbage. I was a synology enthusiast for almost 20 years but their prices and hardware is crap. Moved my surveillance to frigate and my NAS to truenas and run docked in portainer. Much better. The fact they don’t refresh a crappy cpu after 4 years shows exactly what kind of crap synology is

[@RespectedDesperado]

Synology more like for stupid and lazy people like me. Who wants just an easy and safe backup within a a few clicks. I tried Unraid and docker for a few weeks and can't make it properly work like I want. With Synology syncing, photo backup etc is so easy. Without problems. Only reason why I didn't buy it yet because of Plex. If you can make docker work and can build it stable on unraid or truenas there's no reason for a Synology. But I just couldn't

[@Nasguy-b7q]

​@RespectedDesperado the problem for Synology is that the NAS world is entirely different from 3 years ago. You could deploy a qnap as easily and securely as Synology. More secure even with the bit defender that is built into the OS. Synology is in a terrible spot and the users that left them won't be coming back. Abuse can only be tolerated for just so long.

[@ademkollari8992]

Agree on hardware point but boy is truenas complicated. Tinkered with it for a year,gave up. Maybe it"s just its enterprise nature, not made for home user.

[@Nasguy-b7q]

@ademkollari8992 Good point. QNAP and Asustor are much easier to deploy. QNAP has been transformed in the last 4 years and are a great solution. The only missing thing was zfs on more platforms and now that has been addressed.

[@Jbzy3000]

I agree and disagree. The fact they are stable and they run proven equipment is commendable. I don’t want my NAS cutting edge. At this point I don’t even have a cutting edge pc. Hardware is very good that you can run last generation cpu and gpu and have a powerful system. We’re in a good spot. 😊

[@MRandomClips]

still waiting for the ds1825+

[@burkec33]

As a simple user that wants reliable access and apps (NoteStation, PhotoStation, etc.) along with practicality (lower size and noise, essentially NVME support), Synology seems to be moving away from users like me. I'm hanging on for something, but it may be time to jump ship soon.

[@GorillaIT]

I’m an avid user and solutions reseller of Synology. Synology is on a very slippery slope, subscriptions, locking people into ridiculous over priced hard drives (you can’t get) and selling near 10 year old processors in their product lines.

[@Nasguy-b7q]

To me the slippery slope was over 3 years ago. Now the cows have all come to roost. We tried to tell them way back then, to stop the craziness. They ignored us all, now to heck with them. QNAP is very good come to find out as a total package now and they listened back then and got serious with software and security. Great product and value and easy to deploy.

[@matslarsson5988]

My crystal ball says that prices will be HUGELY dissapointing.....

[@frankwong9486]

Make more thing verified and certificated 😂 Ans time to charge 30% for 5% quicker ,newer hardware

[@djheckler92]

Synology cameras are vaporware at this point. TC500/BC500 are never in stock, and retailers like B&H Photo no longer sell them due to that reason. You saw the same thing with the CC400W... They showed off that camera in November 2023, you reviewed it April 2024, but still nothing. Btw, Rob can you do a detailed comparison between Unifi Protect and Surveillance Station? There are no recent videos available comparing them.

[@Dextermorga]

I have moved to Unifi. I could not be happier.

[@carlos_mann]

I will be so disappointed if they have the same hardware in the 1825+ model. I have been postponing this purchase for the 1821+ for a couple of years or so now, in the hopes that they will be able to have an updated chip, ports, etc. If there's no major update to the series, it'll be a bit useless to purchase, esp once the price drops again for the 1821+. I really hope they offer something much better, there's been plenty of time for them to p.ay around and experiment with the new chips.

[@aznhomig]

Synology offering anemic underpowered boxes is their MO. They want to sell you their overpriced add-on cards if you want 10GbE capability, for example.

[@carlos_mann]

@@aznhomig smh I hope thats not the case for this next release 🤞

[@aznhomig]

@@carlos_mann Count on it. Don't expect Synology to boost the hardware much in their new offerings. They keep floating on their superior software that they undercut hard on the hardware.

[@carlos_mann]

@@aznhomig yeah, and with some of these latest videos from @ nas compares it seems like they're cutting back more on their software as well

[@aznhomig]

@@carlos_mann Yup. Time to dump Synology and look elsewhere, I think.

[@Johnny_Bananaz]

Just wow, Eddie (on the right) is completely out of touch... he clearly lacks knowledge in the area of hardware and LLMs. And Eddie's comments about training on a LLM on the CPU... just wow, he clearly doesn't know how these things work - you'd be training all year if that was the case. And then Robbie just talks to much... adds so much fluff to sentences and doesn't get to the point.

[@Dextermorga]

Rs 8bay. Come ooon Synology 😵‍💫 And yes half size 😂

[@Donbros]

I mean yeah we dont need much but 4k video streaming would be great. I have ton of 4k footage and would love to have it all in my nas easily accesible and efficient working from any device. The only reason why i am still not buying nas at all

[@BrianThomas]

No wonder why brits are always going on holiday. There's no sun.

[@supernova82]

Just give the user the option to use the AI. They shouldn't force customers to use it. I know they want to join the bandwagon and hype but many people don't care.

[@Aniki_66]

Minute 14:15 his answer shows like he lives in anoter reality.

[@Johnny_Bananaz]

He's completely out of touch and doesn't understand hardware and lacks a lot of knowledge. Guy talked about training on NAS data using a CPU.... LMAOO it'd take all year to do that...Dude is just coasting through life.

[@TimHunold]

When I started looking into a NAS, I got the impression that Syno0logy was the devil so since then I have never considered them.

[@nascompares]

I think they are still top dog for the software though (apps, UI, UX, client tools, investment), gotta be fair to them on that

[@Nasguy-b7q]

There software is good, no doubt but the competition like asustor and especially qnap have been working very hard. Quite surprised you haven't reported qnap with bit defender and all the updates.

[@colonelccccc]

@@nascompares until they'll piss off their fan base and push them to go look elsewhere

[@Nasguy-b7q]

They aren't the devil, but have gone a direction most don't care for. They have good stuff, but the prices of their branded stuff and how they force you to use it and their strange hardware directions are my issues with them today. I left them as their value compared to the competition is much weaker these days. Asustor and especially QNAP have made lots of very positive changes in the last 2 years, and are a much better value.

[@jasperverkroost]

I think it depends on what you want from a NAS. If you want a rock solid device with a great OS, don't consider anything else, if you want the best hardware for your money, look elsewhere.

[@matejkotnik9675]

SYNOLOGY LISTEN, I mean i like DSM because its reliable and easy to use, yet i can run custom apps. Why is synology sleeping on Intel N100 and N305 ...SERIOUSLLY. 500€ NAS like DS425+ cant have J4125 is old pedestrian it can run 1 VM. How entropenour could run company on slow NAS?

[@Nasguy-b7q]

They stopped listening a long time ago when they dumped Intel (the 920 aka 423 doesn't count for 6year old tech, 20 plus if you include 1gbe. They locked you into their hardware just to do very basic things others did 10 years ago with a silly m2.nvme pool, and lastly investing in a market where no sane manager will leave Dell or others for a synology. Their os and hardware is soooo stale with smb market it isn't even a joke anymore...

[@danielbaerchen]

Plex is bad, beter is Jellyfin. I wish a Option for pay 5-10$/y for Support all Audio and Video format (dolby true, dts, ...)

[@andrewbroadfort6856]

Unless CPU/Memory has a direct impact on file transfer performance then they are not worth fretting about apart from the CPU somehow limiting the support lifespan of the product. The only thing a NAS should be doing is serving files. All other tasks should be handled by dedicated hardware external to the NAS. 2.5 gigabit needs to be eradicated. 10 gigabit or greater is what is needed either via a built in solution or via PCIe expansion slot(s).

[@Nasguy-b7q]

I disagree... 2.5 is great for most smb uses, especially with multichannel begin default on most systems. Many small business owners I know use it for much more than just file serving. Lots use Plex for example.

[@nascompares]

Not to be 'that guy's, but you are both right. If the h/w can support 10GbE and it's not a hinderance to the rest of the system architecture (heat, lanes, etc), then just up the price £50-70 and add it! But I disagree that 2.5G is useless...given it's wide support now on even semi modern CPUs, saving wastage on the system hardware layout and that 2.5G NICs at the factory are largely identical to 1Gb NICs...not adding them feels like a choice made for the wrong reasons

[@Nasguy-b7q]

​@@nascomparestotally agree. 10gbe is cheaper now, but 2.5 was a better value and 5.7 or so speeds was appropriate for small end users.

[@berntespelien734]

Very dissapointing news. Im glad I got a nvidia card working in my ds1621xs+ and dont really need to upgrade. But I still wish they would release a much upgraded successor, preferably with a quiksync enabeled gpu.

[@nathanruben3372]

Synology has become apple. Chargeb obsene money for weaker inflexible hardware.