Synology BeeStation - Should You Buy? (Quick Review)

[@davidg5898]

I've been looking for a simple NAS to set up different family members with. I was getting very excited about this one until the last couple points. Not having a model with redundancy and not having replaceable drives equates to an automatic "no" from me. Too bad, because it ticked pretty much all of the "ease of use" boxes that I'm looking for.

[@dancarpenter419]

Do you have any other suggestions because I have been searching for the same type of device ?

[@kristianvrum8979]

You have your files stored in the cloud and on a harddrive, and if the latter fails you buy a new one, just like you would do with any other harddrive that fails, so what's your problem?

[@blindside995]

Tbh… It’s not horrible. When it comes to set it and forget it. This is pretty slick for something like setting up at a parent’s house or something.

[@SirDadbod]

At the end of the day,,its parents vs the world...sometimes stuff like this is needed hahaha

[@davidg5898]

Setting up at family's house is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for, but I wouldn't go with this simply because it doesn't have redundancy or replaceable drives. I *really* like the ease of use, though. Maybe they'll have a future version with 2 drives and RAID 1. Then I'd be all over this for my family's houses.

[@Donbros]

We all do that 😅😂

[@AaAa-je5eo]

Spot on. So many of us thinking along these lines it makes sense for Synology to cater to this you feel! @@davidg5898

[@chriscardwell3495]

So an alternative would be the DS120J with a 4TB Hard Drive with a 1 Gbe network connection which may cost less . . . but could later be upgrade with a larger hard drive . . . and would then cost more.

[@RealThore]

The biggest benefit of a cloud from one of the big providers: Your data is (at least to a degree) safe. If a hard drive in a Google datacenter fails the data is still living. If the drive in the beestation fails, your data is gone (except you have a backup which you should have but the average customer of these sorts of products won’t have). At least a 2 bay RAID1 version would be necessary in my opinion

[@joer9276]

unless your house burns down!

[@RealThore]

@@joer9276 that’s why you should have an offsite backup, but the average customer of these products won’t have any backup of his data at all

[@Donbros]

Unless google servers burn down

[@RealThore]

@@joer9276 you should always have an offsite backup, but let’s face it. The average customer for this kind of products doesn’t even have any sort of backup

[@RealThore]

@@Donbros I‘d guess even if one datacenter burns down the data would still be mirrored to another one in a complete different location

[@EJHarrop]

Magic Roundabout gave me a smile. Best show on telly. 😁 Cheers

[@nascompares]

Honestly, learning that whole speech just to play that track was totally worth it ... And I'd do it again!

[@zolo5425]

Synology’s old user interface and poor APP experience are one of the reasons why I have been reluctant to upgrade or buy new products.

[@Keikdv]

The gap in the market will really be filled with a 2 Bay Bee-station. Me being the first (if I can) to by it. No difficult NAS thing with all those app-things I do not need or want anymore. Simple, plain working back-up is what I want. (and Synology: 8 TB would be nice too)

[@nascompares]

Again, bloody staggered they opened this new product family with a 1 bay... I.e. all that work coming off a single 5400RPM HDD... It's too much for a media that is poor at multitasking. At least a RAID 1 would have allowed some performance boost and redundancy

[@photonx3075]

​@@nascompares, my LAN went down yesterday. My spouse was not impressed that the DS218+ may have backed up to an always-connected USB drive the night before the incident. I was not impressed when I couldn't retrieve the file she needed after moving that USB drive to my laptop hoping to access the file with Hyperbackup Explorer. I finally retrieved the file from one of the rotating-USB weekly backups that were done in Windows-readable format. The experience makes me wonder why I used RAID 1 on the DS218+ in the first place. The redundant drive might offer more value to us in a separate enclosure as an additional backup.

[@octaveanaugustus307]

I think I’d rather bang in a USB thumb drive or HDD to my Synology router then go with a BeeStation solution. Its early days mind you, hopefully the BeeStation product line will improve in due time.

[@knghtbrd]

RAID is for availability, backups are for recovery. I find that I don't mind this being a non-RAID single disk solution. What I don't like is the lack of an easy way to slot that drive out of there if there's a problem with the hardware for a system like this one. I want that ability even in a product aimed at users who aren't going to know how to take advantage of it unless the support folks on the phone tell them how. Because that's a big part of owning your own data.

[@bokami3445]

Love the "Magic Roundabout" background music, Yep I'm that old

[@nascompares]

Right back at ya!

[@AaAa-je5eo]

Thanks for the 'quick review', appreciate that! Would this be a good option for an off-site backup NAS of a main multibay regular syno NAS?

[@nascompares]

I'll admit, my definition of "quick" is very relative! The DSM vs BSM comparison and 100% BeeStation software overview are all landing shortly and should help any further Q's...but tbh integration and cross network communication between this system and traditional Synology NAS servers is actually surprisingly lite at launch tbh. Will make more sense in the next vid

[@AaAa-je5eo]

Ha, perfect length for the info I was looking for so all good! Awesome, will look out for it. @@nascompares Cheers again!

[@andresvaldevit3692]

Oooow, it includes the HD already, that's a first. Still don't think it's for me but I'm still evaluating

[@AAtta-3286]

I'm not knowledgeable on NAS units. How safe is it if i allow someone to have their own connection? Can a virus that attaches to their files infect mine? Great interesting video! Also watched your disassemble video and a great job also!

[@CarlRyds]

Synology has a video that shows you can Sign in with Apple or Google. However, I don’t know if that creates a Synology account or if it’s just a sign in method.

[@Ultrajamz]

No 1824+ no buy, but at this rate I worry when it does come the price will be jacked..

[@Donbros]

Yes where is that i kinda need it

[@ThomasMetzger-pl5yy]

If you do a teardown is the storage expandable

[@TazzSmk]

I wonder what would be worthy use case for someone who already has Synology NAS, if there's anything such simple device might actually outperform DSM, I feel like there's a wasted potential of not having card reader, and built-in phone/tablet sync/backup utility, lack of RAID might actually force people to learn RAID is not a backup anyway, ps: will Synology offer BeeStation virtualization in Synology DSM Virtual Machine Manager? could be fun to try :)

[@BoBoBiBo]

Would love to see if you can use freefilesync with this device. The problem I have is when the sync is gonna delete files (my device that I have noe have no "trashcan" so they will be issue when I delete files with sync program. Everything that's conectet to my computer that I have freefilesync installed works flawless.

[@quantenklon]

Nice box. Really like it. Hey, just grab one of these, run as is (black box) and in the end, you can spend your saved money on a backup drive. Who does really need a RAID in home-use? It just does what most people really want.

[@nascompares]

I mean, I 100% see your point and agree for the most part...but RAID is incredibly useful for a safety net AND performance improvements

[@RAG0407]

Looking for simple and i am starting to wonder if there is another way. Ie umbrel os. I love its appstore and simplicity but where does the data get stored. Lol. Can i add storage.

[@tudalex]

I would like the option to install this software on a 923+ and gift it as a simpler option for my parents.

[@nascompares]

THAT....IS A BLOODY GOOD POINT!

[@AaAa-je5eo]

Agreed! Interestig idea @@nascompares

[@sylvainalain6637]

Or quick connect to your parents nas and make that your offsite backup mate :)

[@tudalex]

@@sylvainalain6637 now that you mention it, an extra nice thing would be to have it as an option on virtualization station.

[@ma3nni689]

I have a qustion please. Can the beestation handle a surveillance camera to record when motion is detected? I am quite excited coz i guess the 224+ is way too much for me having no network experience, some fotos to backup and a camera.

[@regwatson2017]

"...And in one year you own it...." And when you get a power surge in the second year or grandma spills her tea in it you'll lose the lot.

[@aliengoa0]

They may seem overpriced especially for the tech savvy but synology software is probably the best for people who don't know how to build a NAS and depend on external disks or windows Storage spaces...

[@frankwong9486]

Can you attach a multibay hdd enclosure to it and use it like a cheapo NAS ?

[@vwestTube]

I can’t find this model on Amazon store

[@nascompares]

It's not released till the first week of March.

[@vwestTube]

@@nascompares Okay thanks

[@pegaseehorn]

Can I use this as a secure! cloud (i.e. not opening up ports, etc.) away from home like iCloud and have this device backup to a directory in my TrueNAS server in the same network ? And is this BSM easier to use as a cloud away from home than the normal DSM Synology offers due to the new supposedly easier to use software ? I don‘t really know Synology‘s software and what I can do with it but I heard they had a special software for exactly the cloud usecase…

[@stevenwylie7588]

Can i connect my old 410j synology NAS to this and just yse my old NAS as extra storage. This will save me having to move everything to the new NAS ?

[@plebius]

Theoretically you could connect them via usb. They should see each other as storage. The transfer speed would be about 400mps. You could also use a cheap GB network switch and have them transfer the data that way, which would probably be quicker.

[@plebius]

The only issue I can see is the encryption and how that would play between the two of them.

[@wheresjimmy247]

Maybe I missed it but can you or can you not run a Plex Media Server with this?

[@psbarry]

Does it run Doom? 😅

[@norm4332]

4 TB is NOT a NAS. It's a pocket USB drive

[@Donbros]

Completely agree. Its feels like for saving jpges without videos 😂

[@Frameable]

The point is that product compare to google drive and dropbox sub

[@GGg-ic9ku]

Can you backup the BeeStation with an external usb drive? GREAT review as always! Missed the release date also, when out in US?

[@nascompares]

Yes, and March 6th I believe. Cheers man

[@LiLBitsDK]

online connection for a LOCAL NAS... HARD PASS... that is a security nightmare

[@johnnada.]

shouldn’t that be the first point made about this thing?

[@adrianus13]

Its a cloud replacement for nontechnical users, theyre not going to operate through a vpn to access their photos and docs

[@marksanderson5135]

Of course, it only 1gbe, it's a Synology. I think when everyone else was buying 2.5gbe sockets, Synology saw a chance to bulk buy 1gbe sockets at dirt cheap prices, and will stick with them until they've run out.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Frankly, with just one drive in this data death box, you really don't need more than 1gbe

[@cdelcollado]

It was a bargain when lauched. Now, is Spain costs 264€. It makes beestation less interesting.

[@sylvain351]

The synology backup cloud cost 299 $ / years 😂😂😂

[@Zedris]

4tb for 199. While a 5 tb drive costs 80 on sale. So 120 more for cloud access? Just plug a dumb one in the back of your router… yeah no this is a ripoff

[@regwatson2017]

Your negatives are only mostly valid for experienced users. This is not designed for experienced users. It is for people who want to put their photos and files on a NAS they can access from anywhere but don't want to learn anything about NAS. You are complaining about a product that isn't designed for users like you.

[@nascompares]

Did you not hear the intro? Or the disclaimers about the product being 'entry' focused' and the multiple points I made about the target audience not being me and that more experienced users would find it limiting? Did you not spot them? I guess I'm asking..did you actually watch the vid? Jeez

[@mindenesvegyes8512]

no

[@MujtabaTapal]

Synology os

[@JoseAngelAcostaEngineering]

No, sorry synology horrible ownership experience

[@theestate12]

Mind numbing that a 'quick review' is 22 minutes.

[@moogs]

Don’t buy synology products. They’re overpriced and no longer casual customer friendly. Their tactics lately simply rip off customers.

[@nascompares]

To be fair, I think you would struggle to find a more casual product that this BeeStation, but I get your point

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Noobs who are ready to entrust their data to a non-redundant storage device are exactly the people who can be easily fleeced by an unscrupulous company such as Synology. Since they are clearly not the ones to go for competing solutions or self-built nas.

[@frankwong9486]

Well they charged for software and whole package with features For user only need simple network storage function they defo overpriced Why I pay for those function I don't need ? 😅 Disclaimer: I bought a teramaster 6bay and running unraid on it Plus a node804 diy 13500 which currently running proxmox but going to unraid on future due to how it is designed ( less drive spin up when need to access )

[@alexberube7187]

I didn't know much about Nas last year. I got myself a Synology 2 bays which was a great introduction to Nas. Easy setup and all but I ran out of space very quickly running a raid on 2x12tb. The prices for bigger rigs was insane. I got myself a t6 from terramaster and currently running 1x20tb on it. Its not as nice as my initial Synology but for the price it's a steal for Plex. Only downside is the proprietary ram sticks

[@boeingfan7179]

As someone who bought the DS220+ a couple of years ago, I completely agree that it was not user friendly. I still have no idea what the hell all the settings do but it’s working so I’m leaving it alone.

[@gee7092]

Synology BS.