This episode does a really good job of showcasing why Penelope created an alter ago like Lady Whistledown for herself. This is a young girl who is constantly pushed into the shadows by society and is ridiculed if she even tries to associate with someone in the spotlight, much less step into it herself. And it's not just society, her own family constantly undermines her, her interests, denies her the joy of feeling beautiful or wanted or even likeable. But, living life on the sidelines has also granted her the superpower of hearing every conversation around her without ever being noticed by anyone. Through Whistledown, Penelope is finally heard, acknowledged, appreciated, and respected by the ton. Imagine the kind of satisfaction she feels when her family, who've put her and her beliefs down all her life, drop everything they're doing and scramble to get their hands on the latest Whistledown sheet to read what she has to say. Whistledown is essential to Penelope's growth as an individual. It's given her a voice, agency, financial independence, and a purpose. Right now, the Featherington family is surviving on Lady Whistledown's money, they've just been made to believe it's an inherentance from a spinster aunt. Can you imagine how big of a deal it is for a woman to be the breadwinner of a noble household in the regency era? Penelope/Lady Whistledown is a grey character, for sure, because what she says hurts people, and yet, she's essentially a regency journalist cause she only tells the truth. So, when Penelope decides to use her platform to protect her identity, she does it because nobody has as much to lose as her in that situation. Penelope ends Eloise's friendship with Theo knowing she's saving Eloise from a much bigger scandal and that Eloise will still go back to a loving family and tons of respect in society for being a Bridgerton, at the end of the day. What Eloise doesn't realise at the end of season 2 is that when Pen says she gave up Whistledown for her, it means she gave up her whole life for her, and if I'm being honest, Eloise is just slightly too privileged to understand that. After Eloise says she never wants to see her again and Colin says he'd never dream of courting Penelope, she's a woman who's lost everything. I think it's pretty cool that she decides to pick up her pen again instead of pitying herself. I mean, society never gave her a chance, but atleast she does.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
A minor correction: They are not actually surviving on Lady Whistledown's money. They changed that from the book. On the show, Portia made up the inheritance to cover the money she got from the scam. They are living off the money Portia and Jack scammed for the -- was it a ruby mine? -- in season two. The show repurposed Penelope's generous fake inheritance scheme from the book for this.
@misstaminion5 ай бұрын
Perfectly said @starsign0805! 💚
@starsign08055 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets Oh damn, they shouldn't have done that. I was totally waiting for Pen to reveal to Portia that it was her earnings they were surviving off of in part 2.
@marissanorth855 ай бұрын
Yep!!
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
I love the way you explained that. Thank you.
@ellecerq64095 ай бұрын
"Inserts himself where?" The funniest line.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Kudos to the actress on her delivery too.
@heatherrose55945 ай бұрын
That part makes me laugh so hard even though I’ve seen it more than once! I always lose it at “goes to change his breeches!”
@tiffanyharrell7575 ай бұрын
Nah the funniest part is when she said yeah and when the baby comes out, I was like where does she think a baby comes out of😂
@Lime19585 ай бұрын
I understand why people dislike Penelope for being Lady Whistledown. But this season made it clear that Lady whistledown wasn't created by Penelope, it's just her echoing cruelty that Portia Featherington has taught her. Cressida and Penelope come from very cold and dismissive families. Cruelty and Manipulation is their first language. Another Masterpiece from Lady Shonda Rhimes.
@KimberlyKohn5 ай бұрын
Not just Portia, the ton as an entity. She doesn't make anything up. She only repeats what people are already talking about. The only two times she's strayed from this and started the gossip(although, still true) was with Marina and with Eloise, and both times had major external factors at play. The thing about Lady Whistledown is that(generally) she's a mirror to the ton, reflecting their own cruelty back on themselves. The same people who disdain others' for their scandals perpetuate their own. The ton(as a group, not individuals) are hypocrites.
@eriksnation2315 ай бұрын
@@KimberlyKohn EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!. Everything you said is comletely spot on.
@alwaysbam5 ай бұрын
Ok thats a bar
@Sam.olokude245 ай бұрын
Well said. Thank you!
@booknerd_charlie5 ай бұрын
@@KimberlyKohn 100% agree with this. And the mirror analogy can be used on this season as a whole: Eloise and Cressida are holding up mirrors to each other (metaphorically) that’s forcing them to reexamine their behavior; LW and the other Bridgertons hold up a mirror in front of Colin to say “is this who you really are, or just a part you’re playing?” and so on. There’s a lot of reflection and self-examination going on this season with so many of the characters, and it’s fitting that it’s happening when Pen and Colin are at the forefront of the storyline
@ellecerq64095 ай бұрын
He is a little jealous. Penelope is more maturing, more womanly. She seemed more teenager before. The kiss is very beautifully filmed. For her, that she's basically having no hopes and letting go of him. For him, a realization of something else...
@user-dx2dm8oq8g5 ай бұрын
I think he realizes that hanging around her as a grown man is suspicious if he's not courting her. Look at the glares her maid is giving him. If she marries someone else, they won't be able to be friends like they were as kids. I think that Pen has made peace with it, but he keeps acting as if they were kids, chasing her around and being inappropriate by being alone with her, shaking her hand, etc.
@TempSS26775 ай бұрын
Yeah she is maturing because this season, she's 19 or 20 years old. She debuted with her 2 sisters when she was 16 or 17 years old.
@alexachipman5 ай бұрын
"... aaaand it flattens my hair" such perfect comic delivery on that line, it got me, too!
@vickster50015 ай бұрын
Penelope doesn’t need to redeem herself other than making things right with Eloise, although I still think she ultimately saved her from the queen with the least damage she could. Other than that, the rest of the ton deserve what they get from Whistledown. They have been cruel to Penelope and her family all her life. Look at ep 1 of season 1 when Cressida gleefully humiliates her in front of Colin. Look at all those awful mothers, many whose daughters are unmarried ganging up on her. I don’t blame her utilising her wallflower status to collect gossip and earn an income which she could one day use to escape her awful family. Sure, Cressida was fine this week, but she’s been a nasty bully for years. I’m not letting her off the hook just yet. Loved the kiss. Penelope saying goodbye to any hope she had of love or happiness before she disappears to the shadows. But Colin’s world just flipped upside down.
@misstaminion5 ай бұрын
Yes! I find it so strange how unforgiving people are to Penelope, who has always tried to do the right thing. But Cressida can be outright cruel in public for years, and she gets sympathy for being minimally decent? I don't understand it.
@bethmcard105 ай бұрын
I know that some people aren’t too happy with Eloise being friends with Cressida, but I really love it. I think Cressida is teaching Eloise to actually listen to what people have to say, and Eloise is teaching Cressida what it’s like to have a friend. I loved Pen and Eloise’s friendship in previous seasons, but Eloise never listened to her, and always assumed they were on the same path in life. It’s only when El finally listened did she figure out Pen’s secret, which doesn’t excuse what Pen did. I’m really hoping they can reconcile.
@mkg21245 ай бұрын
Which is why I think the peneloise friendship will be stronger than ever after they reconcile. They are both growing as individuals this season.
@KelliFranklin5 ай бұрын
This!
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
I'm stealing Peneloise 🤣
@alwaysbam5 ай бұрын
@@Syntellgive me peneloisida
@Adme555 ай бұрын
This is why I always find your reaction to Penelope so harsh lol yes, she has made mistakes, but I think that a lot of people keep forgetting that this is a teenager… and she made a lot of mistakes, but it was her dealing, badly, with being bullied in the ton and at home. She was never doing it maliciously, usually she was just trying to fix something and went about it the wrong way. Pen asked for a kiss because she really thought she would never be loved and she thought it would be her only kiss. He mom herself literally told her she was delusional basically. She has lost all hope.
@booknerd_charlie5 ай бұрын
Yes, I think it’s unfair to harshly criticize Pen for her actions when others are not faultless in theirs as well. If we’re going to call out Pen, then we should call out Eloise for her selfish recklessness last season and Cressida for her actions every single season, for example. None of the characters here are entirely innocent and the world is not so black and white; we can bring understanding to a person’s actions even if we don’t morally agree with them. People are nuanced, and our examinations of their behavior should also be.
@mackenzie985 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@NovakLily5 ай бұрын
The same girls Penelope was praising on ep1 of this season in the LW column are the ones treating her like dirt. The ton deserved someone cruel and not just a gossip writer. They are lucky Penelope is not me. lol I mean, if people are going to judge Pen, then i can't understand or sympathize with Cressida, who physically bullied Penelope in season 1, throwing a drink on her, and tried to blackmail Daphne.
@wendyylovee5 ай бұрын
I know some might not get it but I love the Featherington family. I always say they wear these bright colors because they are the comic relief/ brightness the series needs! They truly make this series better lol
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
I absolutely adore the Featheringtons. I agree they're the comic relief we need from time to time.
@iphenginia245 ай бұрын
Francesca is neurodivergent coded leaning towards autistic. She’s very focused on her music and just wants a kind husband and her own household so she can have peace and quiet to do what she wants. Growing up in the Bridgerton house was anything but peaceful and for someone who is easily overstimulated she just wants out.
@BellesView5 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure it was a good thing for Lady Danbury to draw the Queen's attention to her, but we shall see.
@stephyworld87135 ай бұрын
I guess being neurodivergent is a trend now 😮💨 you know that people can be quiet and calm without being autistic right?
@tanwirahmed34015 ай бұрын
I am so glad you noticed the jealousy on Collin part on the ball. Nick Jones jealousy was playing in the background
@belxgarcia5 ай бұрын
It's worth remembering that Eloise was a huge fan of Lady Whistledown in the first season for speaking her mind and making money with it (being a woman), she only started to hate Lady Whistledown when her family started to be negatively cited. As we say here in Brazil, this is a classic example of "pimenta no cu dos outros é refresco" (pepper in other people's asses is refreshment)
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
She was looking for Whistledown at one point because she admired her, yes, and later because the Queen tasked her with it. But when her family was negatively impacted was the same time Penelope's family was negatively impacted (and theirs more, as Colin was a man), and at that point, Eloise began to look for Whistledown to get her to retract what she had said about Penelope's family. I think at that point, she saw Whistledown as a damaging force, but she really wanted a retraction to help Penelope. She still helped Whistledown escape, soon after talking to Mme. Delacroix (whom she suspected) and thinking she would get one. And, then, at the beginning of season 2, everything had died down a little, and Eloise had lost interest in Whistledown as a writer and was reading Wollstonecraft _(A Vindication of the Rights of Women)._ She didn't think Whistledown had much substance, at that point, but I don't think she hated her. She was drawn back in by the (single) column Penelope wrote after that, but I think she always wanted to get that retraction, somehow.
@contra34865 ай бұрын
That’s not true, she lost interest in what LW writes in the beginning of s2
@belxgarcia5 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets I agree with you, "hate" is not the right word to describe how Eloise felt about LW during the second season
@belxgarcia5 ай бұрын
@@contra3486 Yes, at the beginning of the second season Eloise says she is uninterested and that the LW write about others because she doesn't have a life herself
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@belxgarcia Thank you.
@aaliyahbrown57395 ай бұрын
idk if you noticed because it was so quiet (i didnt know until i looked it up) but when Pen is talking to Lord Remington (the one who loves gossip) and Colin was looking at them, an orchestra version of Jealous by Nick Jonas was playing in the background
@mslcarmon5 ай бұрын
Francesca is an introvert. As the introvert in my family of extroverts, it’s hard to make your presence known.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Francesca doesn't want to be the "sparkler." She doesn't want to make "the most brilliant match" as the Queen wants her to.
@liiliies_5 ай бұрын
It's a bit hypocritical to find Penelope's lookinh through Colin's stuff at his house disgusting, but not Eloise doing the same in Penelope's house. Eloise ruined herself, Penelope actually saved her and her sisters from becoming prostitutes, because that would have been the consequence of Eloise being alone with Theo, unchaperoned, after being warned multiple times it would be extremely dangerous, and it would ruin her and her entire family. You can read Jane Austen's books and read what fate would await ruined women in Regency era. For example Lydia (and by extention all the Bennett sisters) almost becoming a prostitute for eloping. Penelope just reports what's going on, and keeps saving the Bridgertons over and over again.
@KelliFranklin5 ай бұрын
I completely agree with your assessment of Pen. Completely!! I'm really enjoying the Mondrich storyline and the Featheringtons are comedy gold! My favorite storyline rn is Eloise and Cressida. I've always hoped that there was more to her than just being a mean girl. When Pen ruined Eloise Cressida befriended her when nobody else would. It doesn't excuse her past behavior but I'm always up for a good redemption arc. Enjoyed y'all's reactions and commentary as always!
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting much out of Cressida but now that she's getting more screen time I'm find myself more curious as to why she does what she does.
@hanayah23155 ай бұрын
About their ages. According to my research Penelope is 19 and Colin is 22
@AnxietyRat5 ай бұрын
Yeah, in the book there's a 10-year time jump. But they are NOT doing that in the show... So that is their show ages.
@user-it4zl2bv2m5 ай бұрын
You can literally see the lightning bolt hit Colin after that kiss. And? Jealous Colin. I’m here for it.
@hopet70905 ай бұрын
A lot of people think the Mondrich storyline is being used to usher in a main character from another book. I love the couple! And it kinda makes sense to get more of them this season because they are such good friends with Colin and Benedict
@em80665 ай бұрын
I looked around for the book/character that might be, and learned that Will Mondrich is based on a real person: Bill Richmond. A former slave from New York who became a famous boxer in England, trained upper class men including Lord Byron, and was an usher at a royal coronation. I need Bill Richmond's biopic now! :)
@hopet70905 ай бұрын
@@em8066 that’s so cool. I haven’t read the books but I saw a good bit of people speculating on Twitter so we’ll see
@nitafa5 ай бұрын
I love Francesca's character. A lot of people feel that she could be neurodivergent, maybe autistic and that's why you feel like you're not getting enough from her, even though we're getting the amount we're suppose to get. The next two episodes will showcase this a little bit more! Great reaction, and I'm here for the Pen redemption tour!!
@user-dx2dm8oq8g5 ай бұрын
I think being constantly put down affects how Pen presents herself in society, people also look down on her because of it. She's attractive and smart so there should have been no reason for her mom to not have tried to get her married for 3 years or to at least introduce her Lady Danbury after seeing what she did for others. Eloise even laughs when she hears that Penelope is looking for a husband. I mean why wouldn't she with the family she has at home and their financial struggles? This makes me wonder if Pen keeps all that in or if Eloise just doesn't listen, because as a best friend how could you not know these things?
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Sometimes Eloise has asked Penelope things, and she has deflected or changed the subject. When Eloise thought she was crying because her father died and tried to comfort her, she said to tell her something nice to get her mind off it. In the very lovely scene where she and Eloise lay on the grass and Eloise told her how she hated being a disappointment to her mother, she also told Penelope it was all right to like society and all of that although she didn't. Penelope told her how she liked being unseen and hearing things, but it would have been a good opportunity to tell her more. I think Eloise never realizing Penelope has a crush on Colin is more about her discounting Colin than discounting Penelope. Eloise does have a dream of them being spinsters together, but Penelope never let her know she wanted different things until the time she yelled at Eloise about it. And I don't think, despite what Eloise says about thinking she never listened to it, that Penelope really ever gossiped to her the way she did that one day when the penny (no pun intended) dropped. I think she couldn't see Penelope was Whistledown because she was too close and Eloise loved her too much. I don't doubt they will reconcile, although how it will happen is in doubt.
@booknerd_charlie5 ай бұрын
@@HuntingVioletsI think that conversation last season showed Eloise that she didn’t really take the time to look at her friend for who she is and really see her, and that Eloise is not the “great listener” she may have considered herself to be. If you go back to a lot of their interactions, it’s more often Eloise talking at Pen or Pen just acquiescing to whatever Eloise says/wants. If nothing else, I think the fallout with Pen and the friendship with Cressida is holding up a mirror in front of Eloise so she can do some actual self-reflection. While Pen needs to atone for LW, Eloise needs to reconsider how she approaches being a good friend. It’s the only way they can both grow from this and perhaps reconcile
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@booknerd_charlie I think everyone needs to do some self-reflection. I hope they can fit some into the narrative.
@Hania22075 ай бұрын
In my opinion, Penelope isn't a bullied, a villain, or whatever people want to define her. She is complex, and like any human being she has light and shadows inside of her (all of us have inside of us this good verse evil, angel verse devil), she definitely chooses everyday good with a bit of salt/shadow, like the ying and yang, because even doing mistakes that may hurt people, she also do it while she tries to fix it, even in a twisted way, she does. Knowing that when she started lw at the age of 16-17, when our brains only becomes completely mature around 25 years of age, and our emotions it is in its highest pick of a constant rollercoster during our teen years, Penelope managing such power with her emotions so highlighted, where everyone reads every single word that she writes while also being bullied and belittled in society and she still managed to not write anything to get revenge on those people, it is already impressive on its one. Us as viewers seeing how she is overlooked by the ton, by her own family and even by herself who thinks so lowly of herself, can we blame her to have such a pride and a strong attachment of lw who shines in world who cares so much about appearance, property and looks? Which gives her a purpose beyond being a girl looking to be a wife (plus unsuccessfully)? Which gives her a voice when, as Penelope, no one listens to her? As Penelope Featherington, she is person who is/can be kind, warm, shy, cleaver, understanding of others feelings, a good listener to her friends she gives her fully attention and tries to give them good advice that they ignore or don't listen to, she wants to help people and she is comprehensive, she is witty, smart and wants/wanted to be friendly to people of the ton. But people ignores her, overlooked her, underestimate her, she is in most of the corners in society, people and herself in part put there, in part because she is shy being one of the reasons that she holds that position where no one gives a second glance even with the brightest of dresses, hopeful eyes and sweet smiles. Since her very first appearance in society, when she and her sisters were presented to the queen who ignored them, she was put as a wallflower, in the background of people stories, seeing stories developing right in front of her eyes, while is stuck in the corners because no one comes to give her attention, let's not forget at this time period only the men could aproche the girls. Because of it, she saw and heard things (about herself and about others) that made her in part to lose slowly that hope and naivety that she had in the beginning, she saw what society truly was : hypocrites, superficial people and some of them being the cruelest (in episode 1 of this season for example, Pen/lw published good impressions of some of debutantes/I think are girls in "risk" of becoming spinster to help them up/uplift their spirits and in this episode 2, those same girls were now mocking her because Colin was helping her). We need also to understand that Queen Charlotte by choosing a diamond, it is just adding more to the superficiality of the ton and how or who or the type of women the men/people need to give their attention when searching for a match, only because of their looks and social connections ( I am not sure what is the criteria that Charlotte chooses the diamond). And even the Queen herself is always eager to read about the ton gossip. So much so that last season, when Charlotte thought that Eloise is LW, she suggested that LW could be more than a gossip sheet, but also, an ally to the crown. With LW, is Penelope's shadow figure who hides in a secret identity, where she can speak/write freely her truths as a girl/woman who doesn't have a voice (or even rarely are the people who listen to her as Penelope) or having power in society ruled majority by men, who are the ones who can only choose the girls they want to aproche, speak and dance with and the ones who choose to call on the girl or not. She can use her wit to show how hypocritical the ton can be. As Lw, she is cunning, harsh at times by telling truths that may hurt but are truthful, criticising their behaviour and ways of thinking and judging the society she lived all her live, and obviously she too can at times make mistakes and use wrong words, or even with hot-head to write something she will/could regreat in the future. But we also see she doesn't publish everything she finds out when she sees that it is too much. For example, in the last episode of the 2nd season, Penelope hears the servants talk about how Lord Fife went to a closet with Miss Goring and they stay there for a few minutes, then we see the girl trying to fix her dress. She tells this to Eloise, there is how she gets suspicious of Penelope. However, Penelope as LW never published a thing about this incident between lord Fife and Miss Goring, because it would be a scandal of big proportion for her and her family and very likely Lord Fife would be forced to married this girl. Also, we need to understand that she holds so much power with LW, because she does this by also using through something she likes but the ton too loves to talk about it (including the Bridgertons and Eloise like we saw right in one of the first scenes where they were dressing and all in group read lw) : gossip. Almost everything she writes is about what she hears people gossiping about in the ball rooms, how they are perceiving the situation of the events that are unfolding infront of them throughout the season, adding comments about it with facts, harsh truths, criticism, funny comments and helpful comments aswell when it is necessary. When she said, for example, that Daphne was ineligible it was because Anthony started to drive away all the men who went to the Bridgerton house, that let to men not going anymore to call on Daphne, which we can assume people started to talk about it on why the diamond that the queen chose didn't have suitors and started to speculate about it, and obviously it could never be because the fault of the men, no, the ton blamed on a woman, and so LW needed to write about it to not create any suspicion. When she speaks about the Bridgerton, obviously she may have a more intimate understanding what may happened because she has direct access to the house and even Eloise perhaps speaking about it of certain situations, but even Eloise didn't know what was happening between Anthony and Kate, for example, and so for the ton not having suspicious of why LW would write only good reviews of the Bridgerton she needs to write what she hears, what is her opinion on the matter and what they are speaking/gossiping about the scandals made by the Bridgerton themselves. But when it is necessary to intervene and try to help them out to dissuade the public opinion, she does without creating suspicious to the Bridgerton or herself. I also see people speaking about lw commenting about George's illness, and obviously, I don't agree it was wrong, but it was also accurate to the time period. George was literally known as the mad king, who his oldest son George IV was regent, that is why this time period is known as regency. Mental illness wasn't a thing that was spoken of. In the early 19th century, care for the mentally ill was almost non-existent. Mental illness was highly stigmatized, viewed as demonic possession or moral deviance, and “mad” people were believed to have no abilities to “reason” and needed to be “tamed”. So, it is no surprise that Penelope learned such a thing since birth that she would make such a comment when she heard society speaking about it. It wasn't out of evil intentions or shaming the king or queen. It was how it was viewed by everyone. And even, the parliament were trying to hid the situation, so people were must likely speculating what was happening to their king. Of course, we can argue that Bridgerton is everything but historically accurate and they could have change that, but it is how the writes proceeded to write, and even George called himself as "madman" too, even him couldn't understand it. And well, if I speak about Marina or Eloise situation, it would be another essay😂 (sorry about that, but I already saw others in the last video speaking about it). But basically, for me, all of them have reasons to act the way they did, and they had reasons to do what they did. All of them made mistakes and hurt people, but all was made by love, too. Who here can say that they didn't say or do something harsh in their life, perhaps you regret it or not, but it was out of desperation, wanting to help someone, or out of love? Perhaps the other person/people couldn't understand your feelings too or why you did it, and it was hard to explain, but you did it because of love, because you believe it was the correct thing to do even if for another perhaps believe it wasn't or find it unfair. Penelope wanted to save Eloise, Eloise is mad because Pen didn't told her it was her all along. Penelope wanted to save Colin, which she is friends with for years, for a loveless marriage. Regardless, Penelope, aka LW, isn't some monster irredeemable as some people say, but she is a human with flaws who can do wrongdoings and do good as well, for the people she loves. She needs to make amends/apologise to Eloise (if she let her speak and listen to her, that would be nice Eloise), but it isn't like Penelope did it out of pure evil either.
@TraceyJean5 ай бұрын
Featherington has 3 girls; that's 3 dowries. I think there's part of her that's subconsciously seeing Penelope up to be the spinster daughter who takes care of her once the older daughters marry and move out to run their own households. Penelope is bookish and smart, none of which is valued in this society, but these are great qualities to care for an aging mother.
@sorchamiana4 ай бұрын
And do you not think that is entirely unfair to Penelope?
@KlaireKane5 ай бұрын
I'm living for your Bridgerton reactions 😂😂
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
We're so happy that you're enjoying them. Thank you for the comment.
@jpohl755 ай бұрын
The scene Penelope reading Colins Journal is from the book and have a important meaning afterwards there.... I don't know if they will show us that in the show. And the kiss scene is from the book also. Made us Bookfans happy.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Yes, although the entry was just about his travels in the book. :)
@hlfbldprincess5 ай бұрын
I live that each character here so far is very human, very gray. They have their flaws and make mistakes. Except for Violet, so far she’s been perfect lol
@Amaya-qx6bu5 ай бұрын
So true. I think they were trying to add character dimension to Violet last season when they showed her not being supportive of Anthony when she was in mourning.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
I think she has not been perfect either. She kind of (understandably) checked out for awhile after Edmund's death and wasn't there for her kids. She also sometimes doesn't understand them all the time and or know the best course to take with them. Of course, they are all so very different!
@byfelicia03195 ай бұрын
Penelope is not a bully, she puts a mirror up to the Ton and makes them face themselves.
@lenoraGrayce5 ай бұрын
I think Lady Featherington is cynical and very familiar with the cruel truths of the world. Just like in season one with Marina, she tells it how it is and doesn’t sugar coat anything. Her POV is that life is hard and even harder as a woman. Suck it up, accept it and find a way to put it to your advantage. I think she was just telling Penelope the hard life truths as she sees them. But I also think that she cannot think outside the box of society’s prescribed norms and see how her daughter can be exceptional outside of those confinements. She doesn’t offer Penelope hope or encouragement and that leads to Penelopes complete lack of self-confidence. Despite how horrible Porshe can be, I love her character! She is such a great foil to Violet Bridgerton who gives nothing BUT encouragement to her children, but she’s also a great advantage of a cunning woman who fights for her and her daughter’s survival despite society and huge personal obstacles. Plus, she’s just hilarious!
@itsreeeshaaa75605 ай бұрын
This! I couldn’t agree more!
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
You bring up a good point about the Mondriches. I think this show has a problem (I don't know whether _problem_ is the right word) because it started out like an AU where there was no racism (but still plenty of classism and sexism and probably ableism) but then they had the explanation partway through season one for how high society integrated, which kind of derailed that a bit. Then that was expanded on in QC, of course. So this gave the show a bit of a split personality about how race affects things in society. I do wonder whether the extras were less varied when the Mondriches went to their first party. They've usually had a background characters of various colors, but, of course, the two main families are white and the family we follow the most of all is the Bridgertons. For the most part, the main show operates as if racism is solved while every other kind of oppression is in full swing. Simon was a sought-after marriage prospect, and the Mondriches may soon have to deal with people who try to court their acquaintance with an eye for when the young baron becomes marriage mart material. Lady Danbury throws the much-anticipated first ball of the season. The Queen is -- the Queen. But we know it isn't that long ago that society -- or at least high society -- was integrated. What is society like as a whole, then? And how does that affect Will and Alice, in addition to suddenly being upper class?
@CarvS615 ай бұрын
I love Penelope and Colin together.
@ginnyvann5805 ай бұрын
Pen reading the journal was needed to further the plot. That is all I am going to say. I don’t want to spoil it.
@itsreeeshaaa75605 ай бұрын
This is a great episode. For me seeing Cressida begin to try to care about her friendship with Eloise makes me think we’re going to get a bit more of her and I will be interested in seeing where Cressida goes. I love when characters are able to redeem themselves. Eloise is always going to be my ride or die and I appreciate Cressida making the effort to befriend her after she was humiliated last season. I really want a big Benedict love story. He’s so funny and charming and I would love to have a season focused on him primarily. Once again I agree with what think about Penelope. So far I’ve enjoyed this season. I can’t wait for the next episodes to drop!
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
I am hoping we get Benedict next season, as they have already delayed one season.
@camflywithme29495 ай бұрын
0:58 Dying at your banter "Dudes ain't be like OMG look at the beautiful flowers! OH MY GODDD!!!!" Looooooool
@Reya_Sunshine5 ай бұрын
Its always strange to me when people are surprised that Lady Featherington said what she said but then I remember not everyone's family is like that. I identify with Penelope so much in that scene, it's sad. From personal experience, it hurts just as much as you fear it will when your hear all the negative things you think about yourself from someone whose opinion matters to you no matter how deeply you know they are toxic to you. When Lady Featherington changes tac/tone it makes me hopeful she's learning, maybe more nebulously than literally, the difference between tough love and abuse. If she can communicate that to Penelope at some point this season, I'd love it so much, as I'll never see it from my "but they're family" mother.
@MeredithHagan5 ай бұрын
Penelope trying to flirt with the group of gentlemen in the park, she’s definitely basing her awkward behavior on her mother.
@AnxietyRat5 ай бұрын
Yeah, she was using the advice that her mother was giving her sisters... I think in season 2...I can't remember exactly when the scene happened but yeah that's why it was super awkward and strange and she was fanning herself HEAVILY because that's what her mother told her sisters to do!
@northof60965 ай бұрын
Your Bridgerton reactions are so entertaining!! 😊😊 thank you
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for spending your time with us. So happy to have you.
@lisa_moscow88335 ай бұрын
I had so much fun with you guys! Thank you 😊 it was great🫰
@nataliazart5 ай бұрын
Penelope saved Eloise life people tends to forget that.
@babylicious3455 ай бұрын
Exactly & Eloise knows that! Despite how upset she is with Penelope, Eloise will not reveal her secret because she also believes the Queen will make do on her threat.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Eloise's life was not in danger. The Queen threatened to expose her to the ton -- unless you think the ton might have her killed, which I guess is a possibility.
@babylicious3455 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets I’m just going off the Queen’s words to Eloise in that carriage in season 2, “I will deploy my resources to crush you like a serpent”. I can only infer that Eloise thought that that meant total and complete destruction. Eloise definitely looked like the life drained out of her body.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@babylicious345 Yes, she did say that, but that isn't all she said. Queen Charlotte: "You do realize the power you wield in *that pen of yours could be used for greater purposes than ridicule and gossip-mongering. Lady Whistledown could be a strategic ally to the Crown,* should she so please." (Eloise again attempts a denial.) "So, you would be my rival? Do you have any idea *what will happen once I reveal this secret of yours, child? People will seek their revenge.* However bad your family's situation seems to you now, it will only get worse. *I might be able to solve that problem. I shall give you three days to consider my proposal and come to your senses.* If you do not, then I will deploy my resources to crush you like a serpent. Pride may not be as precious to you as your breath." Those last two lines do seem threatening, but the Queen does like her hyperbole, and in context, there is more of a suggestion that the Queen will make sure she is revealed to the ton and let what happens happen. The Queen would probably not come out to reveal Lady Whistledown personally but would use other people to get the word out. YMMV
@babylicious3455 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets Eloise cannot go off of the Queen’s initial sentiment anymore (once Pandora’s box is opened it cannot close). The Queen may have wanted to form an alliance with LW, but by the end of that conversation, the Queen was no longer interested, and that is what Eloise (and the viewer must accept). You can no longer dwell on what “could’ve been”. The window for partnership was closed once the Queen started to feel like Eloise was insulting her intelligence. The last two lines were the shortest, but they were the last and left the impression that LW, whoever she was, may not make it out alive. I’m almost certain that in part two, Eloise will probably be one of the driving forces in trying to convince Penelope to drop LW all together because she is the only one who has actually seen the Queen’s anger concerning it. I also believe that that will be the bridge that reconnects them.
@erinjohnson11245 ай бұрын
Nick Jonas’ “Jealous” was playing in the background while Colin was watching Pen talk to Lord Remington by the refreshment table lol it was my favorite scene to be honest 😂😂
@franciscabastosbassoon5 ай бұрын
Hii :) i've found you guys because of your Ted Lasso reactions and I love it here. But while I used to agree you with on the Ted Lasso reactions, I think you guys are a bit off beat here about Penelope. Penelope is a knowledgeable young lady (probably around 19 here. it's her 3rd season and they usually debut around 17) with many interests, a very good writer but constantly ostracized or ignored... probably because of her appearance and family status. Lady Whistledown is so popular cause she's writing what everyone want to read. They're all gossipy in that kind of society. These people are too rich to work, gossiping is all they do. Cressida's arc is great, but she's been mean and a true bully for 2 seasons and you've been quite fast to forgive her. Penelope deserves at least that. At 18 last season, I believe Penelope truly thought she was protecting Eloise by outing her. Her dealings with Theo were very dangerous! She knew Eloise had the support to recover, but she had been gone further with Theo she'd be ruined. And Penelope is completely oblivious of her privilege as a middle child with no pressure to marry and being from a respectful family. And what Whistledown said about Colin looking like he changed personalities is not wrong or cruel at all, I'm sure many thought it and he didn't feel any repercussions from it at all (another side of male privilege too). Both of them used to be the two nerds and he's faking being cool, cause he's a 20 something year old trying to find himself too and discovering women. My theory is that Penelope nowadays would have been a real good writer but in those times she can't cause she's a woman. And her reading Colin's diary had nothing to do with Whistledown, it was a 19 year old in love and she's truly remorseful. And she could be judgy by him fooling around all around Europe for the second summer in a row (which would ruin a woman but doesn't ruin him!!) but instead she looked just surprised and probably touched to know they share that love for writing. How beautiful that they as a couple could share that love for books and writing? If she could write her own books as a female author, i'm sure she'd prefer that to being Lady Whistledown. just to end this (waaaay too long, i'm sorry) comment, how heartbreaking is it that Penelope really feels she's finished for society, so lost that she wants a kiss just not to die without knowing how it feels? She has no friends, no social status although she's probably one of the richest and financially independent women there and still doesn't feel like that gives her the power to get free from her family (she's conditioned to think only marriage will) and her family and society ridicule her. And if you pay attention, the most vicious she's been to anyone was herself in this episode. She, as Whistledown, was never has cruel to anyone as she was to herself here. She deserves our love. and yes, you probably already know, this is actualy Colin and Pen's season. :) Keep up the great reactions. :D
@eriksnation2315 ай бұрын
I competely agree with what you said and it's so true for pen's actions imo.
@yummytoenailz5 ай бұрын
finally caught up to all your Bridgerton videos !!
@emmarose65905 ай бұрын
I’m so glad yall are on season 3!!
@kelz34565 ай бұрын
Loooove y'alls reactions. I'd rather watch with y'all, than on my own🤣🤣🤣
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Identity also plays into Colin's and Eloise's stories. Eloise has been damaged by the events of last season and now tries to acquiesce more while still hiding. She turns down Colin's feminist book because she thinks there is no hope. She seems a bit depressed, despite her humorous remarks. I hope she will eventually take the book. I'm glad that you love Eloise. The livestream was so against her last night, and it made me sad. She is just as young as Penelope, and the only one besides Benedict who even questions privilege (which she has less of than he; he could have stayed in art school while the woman artist he met could only attend lectures by being a nude model, something I don't think is in Eloise to do -- she is more interested in writing than art, but just as an example) and she's supposed to invent intersectional feminism as a teen girl, somehow, even though the first time she puts a toe out of her class, she is punished for it. And she broke things with Theo because she was worried for him, not herself. /Sorry for the rant./ Yes, she was wrong to tell Cressida about the lessons, although I think she needed to talk to someone and she has Penelope's secrets pressing on her right now. I think you are the only reactors I've seen who didn't think Cressida turned around and told everyone. It's interesting to see what effect she and Eloise will have on each other. Francesca is a shy, internal character, and I can't tell you how amazing it is to see such a character get any focus. Lady Featherington made her daughters that way. Who was supposed to tell them about sex? According to her, she found a husband for Prudence, but doesn't lift a finger for Penelope? Which may be lucky for Penelope, I don't know.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Benedict's book was the third one, but they decided to switch it and the fourth book on the show, or we would be getting Benedict's season now. Unfortunately, they don't seem to know what to do with him having made the switch. I think it was a mistake to quit the art school (both for the character and on a narrative level). I guess he is probably doing some of Anthony's work again since he and Kate have gone into seclusion again, but that isn't getting screen time.
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
I don't know what to think of Benedict just yet. He's starting to become shadow childlike. I hope they find something interesting for his character.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@Syntell I know! I don't mind just getting sprinkles of Hyacinth and Gregory, as they'd have lessons and they can't attend the balls yet, but we see them enough to get some personality. And they couldn't help it with Francesca because the actress was on another show that took priority, so they had to keep sending her out of town (and finally recast when she became more relevant). But Benedict has usually had something going on with art and hanging out with Eloise, and now he just has -- not much.
@sfinn135 ай бұрын
In his book he wasn’t as open with his art. I think only his family knew about it so when his female lead brings it up to his family they are surprised.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@sfinn13 I was disappointed when he left the art school after he was making some headway. I also kind of wanted him to stay on and help the female artists get into the lectures as students. It would have been cool for him to help change that.
@shanelledavis84665 ай бұрын
@@Syntell to answer your questions about Benedict while you guys were watching him at the ball, 2nd sons are not as desirable in the marriage mart since they don't inherit like the firstborn does. Not unless the heir dies. Like they showed in season 2, they have less responsibility on their shoulders so they sometimes wander aimlessly like Benedicts does.
@carlareginasilvamonteiro96335 ай бұрын
Polin forever 😍😍😍😍😍
@mlovetwo67895 ай бұрын
The white version is “she’s all that” with Freddie prince jr!
@ginnyvann5805 ай бұрын
Can’t Buy Me Love is an 80s movie with Patrick Dempsey that came out in 1987. The one with Nick Cannon and Christina Milian was in Love Don’t Cost a Thing in 2003. There was another one called Drive Me Crazy that came out in 1999 with Melissa Joan Hart.
@tonzyjc5 ай бұрын
I'm always team Penelope 💅🫶🏾
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
"It would have been suspicious if she had not." What an odd way to put it, Penelope. Why would it have been suspicious? People would just think she wasn't interested. There have always been things that haven't appeared in Whistledown.
@t.j._fury5 ай бұрын
💯 Exactly what I was thinking! The use of the word 'suspicious', in and of itself is suspicious! Lol. She's almost implicating herself by using that word. She should have said 'odd' or something similar. ❤🎉🎉
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@t.j._fury That was a slipup. Colin didn't think anything of it at the time, though.
@t.j._fury5 ай бұрын
@HuntingViolets Yes, it was obviously a slip up. I guess I was just surprised she didn't choose her words more carefully, but thinking about it now, I get that she wasn't thinking because it was Colin & she was distracted, lol.
@mkg21245 ай бұрын
Penelope knows what the people want, that's how she makes her money and success. She knows people want to hear what Whistledown has to say about the situation so it wouldn't make sense to not mention it.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@mkg2124 But telling Colin "It would be suspicious had she not" was a slip.
@VenusRayne5 ай бұрын
I don't get how Colin can fix his mouth to say you shouldn't care about the estimation of others and then immediately act a fool for any lady that turns her face in his direction. I've seen ppl saying Colin isn't himself for this first part and I really hope that's the case BC Colin fooling around with randoms in the name of being a society 'approved' basic rake is not what I signed up for😔
@bridgettedenise5 ай бұрын
Now you are going make me start looking at his eyebrows
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
Once you start, you can't stop 🤣
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@Syntell This isn't the point, but I always think Emilia Clarke does the most expressive things with her eyebrows.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
She talks normally with Colin, and she's in love with him. What nervousness does to us all.
@ashlieparis43724 ай бұрын
We LOVED to walk campus in college. To see and to be seen
@pretzel4775 ай бұрын
LOVE your reactions!!
@allier18675 ай бұрын
Pen and LW is complicated for me because Pen is so very different from LW, tbh even with the reveak back in S1 I still didn't think they're one and the same.
@booknerd_charlie5 ай бұрын
Re: Francesca, I think the show is purposefully doing a slower unraveling of her personality here because this isn’t technically her season. In the books, there is a time jump to account for in Francesca’s storyline, and while the show will likely have to truncate that out of necessity, they still need to allow for some time passing before the focus entirely falls on her. In addition, there’s some overlap in time in Benedict and Eloise’s storylines with Francesca’s, so we will likely see a lot more play out with her as we move on to Benedict and Eloise’s storylines in the upcoming seasons. How much the show will change from the books with the three of their storylines remains to be seen, so that will be interesting to see play out
@jojoal71155 ай бұрын
I didn’t like what Pen did last season but I understand her intention and Elois off course has the right to be angry she felt betrayed but she didn’t need to become a friend with a bully/mean girl also people act like Pen was the bad friend when Elois was also a bad friend both where wrong Pen has the right to keep secrets she doesn’t need to tell Elois everything and her secrets wouldn’t have stayed secrets if Elois paid attention to Pen the only time she actually finally cared and paid attention to Pen was when she realized she was LW if she was a good friend from the beginning she would have find out long time ago and would have realized that Pen was LW and has felling for Colin. And I don’t get the hate for Pen when the bully is bad I don’t like her but I don’t hate and wish for her to die or have a sad ending while people act like they want Pen to have a sad ending because they hate her. I wish for Pen and Elois to become frieds again and for them both to talk and discuss about how both were wrong and how to do better as friends and for Elois to stay away from the mean girl, but I hope they become friends again I love Pen and Elois. Also people saying they are liking the bully and Elois friendship because she is getting redemption no she is not she was and still a bully to Pen the only reason that she didn’t gossip about Pen to the other girls is that Elois her friend she doesn’t care about others felling so that’s not a redemption arc her character still same as before she didn’t change also people acting like it’s not realistic for a bully to stay a bully yes there are people who change but there are people who don’t there are people who in school they are a bully and when they get older and go to college or get jobs they stay the same a bully and hasn’t matured at all also we don’t need a redemption arc to a bully in every tv series I am tired of that.
@eriksnation2315 ай бұрын
I completely agree with everything you said. I didn't like how Elois became friend's with the girl that bullied Pen and quite frankly Cressida will need to more in actions in order to get redemptions from me like actually apologizing to Pen for the years of bullying face to face.
@jojoal71155 ай бұрын
@@eriksnation231 Exactly and I don’t like that people are acting like that was a big redemption arc for Cressida and that Pen need her redemption are like Cressida which is disturbing to see because Cressida doesn’t really fell bad for what she did and doesn’t care if she was mean or not she only didn’t gossip because Elois is her friend that’s not a redemption arc also why are people judging Pen who was young and in that society the only way for her to help Elois was what she did yes it was wrong but I understand the reason while Cressida bullying Pen was for no reason was only for fun and people complementing her for not gossiping also some people who I have seen in other channels comment they hate Pen for her body more than for what she did last season like this is disgusting.
@veronicaknowsbest5 ай бұрын
Francesca is my favorite character this season, but I do understand why you need more meat. I think starting next episode you will get the meat. I think Pen looks beautiful this season but I still don't root for her. She has done so really bad things and most time it was intentional. I will be interested to see how I feel once she gets her happy ending. It's so true about instantly looking for people that look like us when we enter a new environment. We have to steel ourselves for what's to come if we are the only black or POC in the room.
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
Pen is tough to love right now, but I'm fighting for her redemption.
@eriksnation2315 ай бұрын
I mean, I can understand the feelings of not likkingPen due to her writing but at the same time most of the things she writes are still true about people.
@veronicaknowsbest5 ай бұрын
@eriksnation231 Just because something is true, it doesn't mean it needs to be shared with everyone. The Ton didn't need to know Marina was pregnant. Only Colin needed to know that. She wrote about it in her sheet because she was vengeful. She does things to get back at people in her sheet. That is what makes me not like her.
@eriksnation2313 ай бұрын
@@veronicaknowsbest well that’s how rich elites thrive off gossip with good or bad. And I want the one with Marina that I don’t understand the attention I’ve done that but at the same time she’s been in love with Colin so therefore as a love rival, she did we need to be done lol.
@jessicarodriguez89905 ай бұрын
I think at this point Penelope is 20 and Colin is 22. They both got the makeover bc it’s their season as the leads S3. It’s interesting bc they both have a part of themselves they hide but once they embrace their true selves and own up to their mistakes they can grow in this beautiful friends to lovers plot of S3. Great reactions guys.
@BrwnSknHney5 ай бұрын
I dont think you guys have said so, b ut Francesca is portrayed as kind of neurodivergent, maybe sensory-sentive/autistic to some extent. The show is really big on inclusion, so I think if you looked at her scenes through that lense she seems less bland as it's very different to see someone like that as a sub-lead, soon to be major lead in a romance drama like this
@snootyvegans5 ай бұрын
I did notice!! And I discuss a little later in the season 😊
@shanelledavis84665 ай бұрын
Love it. Also I like that Penelope was speaking to the differently abled gentleman in the wheelchair. Everyone gets represented. 😊
@pretzel4775 ай бұрын
4:27 IM CRYING😭😭😂😂
@tiffanyharrell7575 ай бұрын
It's Love don't cost a thing
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
"Snuck" -- sneaked, Lady Whistledown.
@applepie32765 ай бұрын
Snuck is a word lol
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@applepie3276 It has been gaining on sneaked in recent years and will probably surpass it if it has not already in the U.S., and it was used by Shakespeare (didn't he do everything first?), but it doesn't seem to have gotten really popular until the late 1800s and then in the U.S. It just seems as if Lady Whistledown should use "sneaked." Perhaps it is a clue to some American influence in her life -- possibly a relative who has recently visited? ;)
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Does anybody think Kate and Anthony keep to their separate rooms? It was a big thing when Daphne wanted to move to her unused bedroom when she and Simon were on the outs.
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
I think it's one of those things to have in public, but in private the separate room turns into a glorified closet.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@Syntell Basically, except for those marriages where they never got to like each other much. Even then, they need to make _some_ heirs. I bet Lord and Lady Featherington kept mostly to their separate rooms.
@ellenmojo5 ай бұрын
Many reviewers are pointing out that Francesca may be Aspberger's or at least neuro-divergent. Which kinda of comes out more in the next 2 episodes.
@CeeCee9625 ай бұрын
When you look into the theory that Francesca is Autistic, it seems very plausible and adds depth to how she interacts with the world around her.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
If Prudence can find a husband, Penelope should be able to.
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
You would thin so, right.
@tanyaabbot10605 ай бұрын
Your opinions are too strong and misguided towards a young girl who has been bullied by basically everyone around her except the Bridgerton family. The only reason she is successful is because the ton feeds off of gossip. She is making profit at a time when women were just tools of bearing children. And she is young. And in love with a guy she knows is out of her reach. And you are disgusted because she is reading the diary of the guy she has loved all her life. It was open and yes she got curious but as she later explains, the writing was so good, she couldn’t stop. Don’t put people in water tight compartments.
@KelliFranklin5 ай бұрын
It's okay to recognize Pen's abuse at the hands of her family and the ton while also recognizing that she has faults that don't excuse her behavior. I happen to agree with their opinions on Penelope but I'm hoping she redeems herself as well. It's okay to have differing opinions on Pen's story and her growth or even lack of growth as a person if we see her that way. I'm not discounting your opinions about her at all. You've every right to your opinions, but those of us that aren't completely team Penelope are valid in our opinions as well. I hope you understand I mean no disrespect. Some of us just aren't quite there with Pen just yet.
@misstaminion5 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you @tanyaabbot1060💚
@itsreeeshaaa75605 ай бұрын
@Kelli Franklin - I completely agree with you. This business of trying to shame other people because they don’t think Pen is a saint is tiresome and reductive. Heaven help if we’re not all on the same page. I understand how this channel felt during season 2. No other opinion is tolerated.
@KelliFranklin5 ай бұрын
@@itsreeeshaaa7560 I wouldn't put it like that but, yeah, sort of lol.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@KelliFranklin Yes, I'm hoping to see some growth this season from everyone.
@MellyMell075 ай бұрын
AUC shout out!!!! I'm Spelman c/o '07!!
@redlipstickclub5 ай бұрын
Love Dont Cost A Thing..blackversion lol. great comparison.
@TK-oq9yf5 ай бұрын
If I was the Queen and Mamas sent me jewels I’d be pissed. Like y’all don’t think I have enough?? I give you jewels you don’t give me jewels.
@alwaysbam5 ай бұрын
Yall a mess Not like us 😂😭🤣 I arrange all things 😂😭🤣
@Pillowlips775 ай бұрын
Yeah you're not the only one who thinks that about Francesca. Many people criticised her acting as flat and shared that 'Go girl, give us nothing' meme. Hopefully her character becomes well rounded till the last episode.
@BellesView5 ай бұрын
Her acting wasn’t flat. Francesca is completely different from her siblings.
@Pillowlips775 ай бұрын
@@BellesView idk Ruby stokes the actress who played Fran in previous seasons was able to add so much personality regardless of how short her scenes were. So it's not about Fran's personality.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@Pillowlips77 Francesca is the one who likes quiet and is always sort of apart from her siblings in the books, though, too.
@Pillowlips775 ай бұрын
@@HuntingViolets I've read all the books. Being an introvert or quiet doesn't mean you don't have a personality or any other interests. There's a reason people keep calling her autistic and we know she isn't autistic in the books. Which leads me to believe that the actress didn't know how to give a nuanced performance like so many other actors in the show give with little screentime.
@Reya_Sunshine5 ай бұрын
@@Pillowlips77 but didn't the showrunner confirm she's neurodivergent?
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
Colin, like all his changes aren't for the estimation of others. Or a lot, anyway.
@Syntell5 ай бұрын
He's seemingly found himself.
@mkg21245 ай бұрын
He is so not himself at the beginning of this season. It's clear he's putting on a persona.
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
@@mkg2124 Yes, the irony.
@damaurianwilliams9732 ай бұрын
Penelope is 21
@janiemarshall79285 ай бұрын
🖤🖤🖤
@clairebear_25 ай бұрын
Penelope is meant to be in her early to mid 20s in this season. In the books, the girls debut in society at the age of 18, but for the shows, they aged them up a couple of years as the actors are quite a bit older than 18. So for S1, Daphne was ~21; S2 had Anthony ~29 and Kate ~26 (Edwina ~21); S3 has Penelope ~24 and Colin ~26.
@clairebear_25 ай бұрын
Girls were generally expected to marry in their first or second season (before the age of 23). This is why Kate and Penelope are considered "spinsters."
@HuntingViolets5 ай бұрын
They said it was her third season, so I think it is meant to be a year to a season of the show (although the timeline doesn't always make sense with Kate and Anthony's long honeymoons), so I think she is about 20 or 21 now (she debuted a year early to join her sisters). Edwina said she was 17 last season.
@harry72375 ай бұрын
She is 19 or 20
@HelenaC-rr4mn5 ай бұрын
Penelope is 19 in Season 3. Her mother forced her to entry society early
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@dimaio123455 ай бұрын
I dont understand how u can feel bad for Cressida and not Penelope, Cressida is cruel to her core she always has been since season 1 with Daphne, she does it for fun. Penelope wrote what she did about Eloise to save her from potentially being unalived by the queen she couldn't have come clean otherwise she herself may have been unalived so exposing Eloise was the only way to save them both she had no ill intent in her heart. She exposed Marina to save Colin from being tricked into being father to kids that aren't his the only thing she was in the wrong a little for is Colin which she didn't even say anything that crazy and after what he said about Penelope he really deserved it. Penelope never does things with Mal intent only to save others Cressida is an actually mean person.