INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE Season 2 Episode 3 Reaction and Discussion 2x3 | No Pain

[@evangelinasmusic]

Claudia wasn’t in an abusive relationship, she was kidnapped and held captive 😔

[@Leomerya12]

I mean, you're right, but it turned into an abusive relationship. A relationship doesn't require consent to be a relationship. Parasocial relationships are an example of this.

[@jordanparker657]

15:11 ​​@@Leomerya12 At what point is a person in a " relationship " when they have been kidnapped, physically incapacitated and continually ra&%d? I understand your example but that is apples to oranges.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@jordanparker657 Yeah, I wouldn't call that "being in a relationship."

[@felicia3924]

I thought they meant, in relationship with others not just that relation. When she was human, she was abused and neglected, then she was (emotionally) neglected abused by Louis/Lestat and now this coven.

[@ComedyGuardianWarriorsFOHlulz]

@@jordanparker657 I think they just mean "relationship" as in humans (or vampires) in relation to one another.

[@Starlight-em4vy]

Claudia is really trying her best with what was given to her. She wanted a place to belong. Throwback to season 1 "who's going to love me?". She found community which was really all she was looking for. I feel bad for her.

[@evangelinasmusic]

She really is! I love Claudia so much…. Even if she went crazy crazy murdering people for awhile 😬

[@cruxivar6026]

and she & Louis walked to a pack of wolves

[@lynnetter.freeman570]

Also, there was far more to the falling out between Armand and Lestat… Armand is unreliable and ruthless, even though he seems innocent.

[@Stephaniacat]

i never read the books, just watched the movie, but barely remember any of it. Its just weird, that people are falling for him. I never trusted him. He has some weird vibes

[@charlesharry7901]

Might be annoyed to you. But she deserves better and she deserves be happy more respect to her

[@nyeishaclark95]

Love how you guys pointed out the inconsistency of them saying Lestat is selfish while also in the same sentence tell us that he always financially supported the Theatre, even though he was no longer a part of it. Armand also said last episode that Lestat was just a fling and that he was never that into it and it lasted briefly, only to turn around and tell us in this episode that he loved Lestat and Lestat abandoned him and for over 100 years he never told another person "I Love You' again, some things just aren't adding up. Also this show is all about Perception and Point of View. Keep in mind that the characterization of Lestat is being told through the point of view of Louis, Armand, and Claudia and that Lestat himself, has not had the chance to tell us his point of view or tell us how he felt and how he saw certain situations. I heavily disliked Claudia as well in the first season but somehow this season I am finding her to be a lot more relatable and tolerable.

[@ilhan691]

I agree but the domestic violence could never make me root for him!

[@nyeishaclark95]

@@ilhan691 It’s fine if you feel that way, but they are Vampires, they are naturally violent in nature, so me personally I don’t really apply the same moral code on a vampire relationship as I would a normal human relationship. I mean the way they attempted to kill Lestat was very violent as well and we saw a small glimpse of Louis choking Claudia when she attempted to burn Lestat and yet all that is forgotten or excused by viewers. They are violent in nature, that’s just what they are, so I always view it differently.

[@mitchmatt6002]

Believe me when I say, I'm invested in everyone's relationships and motives in this show, but there's no denying the way I can't help smiling at the Lestat moments because, for better or worse, the man is a charismatic rogue! Love, love, love this show! Great reactions and discussion peeps!

[@KelliFranklin]

I know exactly how you feel. Lol

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

You just wait! You will all fall in love with Lestat…Armand is far more evil…poor Claudia

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

@@ash.1353 I know! He was ready a huge Anne Rice fan! Sam did so well in his role! He is exactly like Anne Rice’s Lestat!

[@Vienne2Luv]

Sam Reid was just born to play Lestat! Which he has stated he really loves this complex character.

[@Vienne2Luv]

Sam Reid was just born to play Lestat! Which he has stated he really loves this complex character.

[@dabrat1985]

finding Claudia annoying is wild to me being that she handles her emotions and situations 100x more maturely then these grown and ancient men lol.

[@walksonair]

Y’all got that twinkle in ya eyes for Lestat.. lol I love it. Next week should be when things start to take a turning point then all hell is gonna break loose😂 see y’all next week😉

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

Armand that nasty little devil….

[@nebulous8389]

Well he is the Brat Prince lol

[@anthonylesley982]

Yeah it’s the half way point but I expect it to happen in episode 5

[@JB-nx3el]

Well, Gary Indiana is roughly 45-60 minutes from Chicago. So I guess you could say it's just outside Chicago.

[@Leomerya12]

(SPOILERS): 19:45 Ahhh! Now I think I understand. The only way Armand would be able to execute Claudia "legally" was by having her join the Coven. If she never joined, things might have been different. Sophie's choice, I think, where the Coven made him choose between Louis and Claudia as payment for the death of Lestat.

[@KelliFranklin]

Exactly. I came away with the same conclusion myself.

[@lynnetter.freeman570]

And say he had plausible deniability…

[@asteven8]

Oh snap! I didn't think about that re Claudia joining the coven. Btw, when they listed out the rules, I noticed how Claudia (intentionally and unintentionally) broke three of the five rules: She was turned as a child, She writes about her experience of being a vampire in her diaries, and she helped kill her maker.

[@RixxeyG]

Yaaaaaaay! Now we’re really getting into the meat of the season. ♥️ I hadn’t even watched yet; not Mikel-Claire asking for exactly that - pick up the pace! 🤣 Always obsessed with how you both come away with different views and try to come to an understanding. ♥️

[@beautifulloly]

I don't understand why people are calling Claudia annoying 😭 Especially this episode she didn't do anything except work hard to finally be apart of something, of a community ! Louis and Lestat made her out of selfishness, and Lestat knew children shouldn't be turned because their minds aren't strong enough for it + it's forbidden. They loved her when she was a clueless little girl but when she realized she was doomed to this life they couldn't handle her anymore, all she did was try to free herself and Louis from Lestat's clutches :( I don't see how that makes her annoying, like more annoying than Lestat??? That's crazy and i love him tho 😭😭 I think Armand is just mysterious, we know him through his role for the coven and even in present day HE chooses how people perceive him, and he keeps his cards very close to his chest. Lestat is absolutely selfish. I do believe he loves Louis and he loved Claudia as a daughter, like an abusive parent does, and i don't think he was always lying but most things he did to Louis were out of selfishness. Even having an open relationship, HE could do it but Louis couldn't because he was insecure and scared Louis would leave him. He made Claudia so that Louis would stay with him, He never told them about Paris or the vampires because he didn't want to go back and he didn't want to be alone, he always withheld information so that he could keep some sort of power over them, he did all those things out of selfishness, otherwise he would have let Claudia go, and even Louis. Now his selfishness according to his relationship to Armand and the coven i don't know... feels like we got like 10% of the story and Armand rushed through the rest.

[@HuntingViolets]

Yeah, I don't find her annoying. I think we are in for a wave of continued unreliable narrators this season.

[@mmandyyyy]

Some women claim to love Claudia then at the same time say she’s trying to manipulate and control Louis which is just so baffling. If you have internalised misogyny just admit to it don’t try to cover it up by saying you ‘love’ Claudia.

[@evangelinasmusic]

@thatveryvvitch_ ooooo good point

[@beautifulloly]

@thatveryvvitch_ totally agree!!! she's literally suffering from their actions too

[@beautifulloly]

@@mmandyyyy manipulate him into doing what 😭 leaving the abusive home? to them she's ruining their relationship when it was already ruined

[@PerfectlyImperfect93]

Lmao Claudia’s actress Delainey IS 25 😂

[@Stephaniacat]

she does look 25 or early 20s

[@SILENT_GAMER9999]

Btw Santiago knows Louis and Claudia are lying😂😂😂. He literally knows they came from Lestat and killed him. Claudia and Louis suck at blocking their minds from other vampires😂😂. And they already broke like 3 of Santiago’s laws. Lying is one of them. And killing your maker without their permission is one of them. And creating an immortal child like Claudia who is 14 is definitely a deal breaker.

[@MrDatboidon]

😂 i died when yall said yeah he gonna kill it but not the way you thinking

[@itsreeeshaaa7560]

My favorite episode. Lestat in all of his preening glory lol. Now that we’re getting Louie and Armand’s narrative of events concerning Lestat I’m really looking forward to when we get Lestat’s narrative. I have to give props to the actors here because they are really doing such a great job. I’m just blown away by Ben Daniels as Santiago in particular. I’m looking forward to the next episode with impatience and I really enjoyed y’alls reactions and POV!

[@snootyvegans]

Santiago is wonderfully intriguing 😊

[@KelliFranklin]

I agree with your description of Lestat and I loved him in this episode. Santiago is certainly an interesting and entertaining character here for sure.

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

Lestat’s is deep. Far more than the preening shallow beauty we’ve seen this far

[@itsreeeshaaa7560]

@lovemydawg - Oh I know he’s deep. He’s my favorite character in modern literature. I’ve been Lestat stan for decades lol. He’s a complicated cat and he’s such a dynamic force as well!

[@JubilationLee-eo8su]

32:45 Lestat isn't selfish, he's just a horrible teacher (among other things). So far he's been the most generous Vampire, out of all the Vampires we've seen in the show.

[@KelliFranklin]

This!

[@KelliFranklin]

So Raglan James is more than likely involved with an organization that monitors supernatural activities around the world. He's definitely interesting. I like Daniel. He's a good foe for Armand and Louie, I think. Seeing the end of the Children of Darkness and the beginnings of the Theatre of the Vampires was done well here. I'm really happy with how the story is moving along.

[@itsreeeshaaa7560]

It’s interesting because this Daniel is so different from the book character but I find myself getting annoyed with him a little bit. I believe his interaction with Raglan James may go in a direction that maybe we don’t see coming and I’m intrigued about that dynamic too.

[@gmunden1]

Raglan James is in the Anne Rice novels. He plays a crucial role in the present day of The Vampire Chronicles.

[@leslust]

@@itsreeeshaaa7560 Show Daniel can be perceived as annoying if one does not try to see where he’s coming from. He’s old, dying from Parkinson’s, possibly bad interpersonal relationships with family (I’d have to rewatch s1 to make sure how his relationship with his daughters is), dying career, he doesn’t remember majority of his interaction with Louis and Armand in the 70s and does not know why, he believes Louis attacked/tried to kill him in the first interview, he was invited back for another interview with the promise that they will give him the whole story just for them to be caught glamorizing said story or exaggerating and/or lying about certain things. As an investigative journalist, Daniel’s job is to get the full story with facts because if he doesn’t that would mess with his integrity as a journalist. No journalist irl publishes a book/story with incomplete facts.Yes, he’s rude to Louis and Armand but if they truly wanted to tell their story to someone who would just shut up and listen they should have just hired an stenographer which their job is just to listen and write.

[@KelliFranklin]

@@itsreeeshaaa7560 Lol I understand what you mean about Daniel. We know he's ill and he's been through trauma at the hands of Louie and Armand most likely. I think he comes off a little annoying because maybe he's frightened and confused and worried about his illness. I believe very soon we will be getting more of his story when he first interviewed Louie in San Francisco. Please understand I'm not trying to invalidate your opinion or pov. I just think there's so much more to his story.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@leslust Plenty of fluff journalists to do the puff piece if that's the book they wanted. They didn't need to get a Pulitzer Prize winner.

[@lSynonymousl]

Thank you for doing reactions and not a 2 hour long recap or review. I have a new appreciation of your videos after looking around youtube for reactions to this show.

[@Deltadivaix]

Look up Amber and Nikki. They do reactions as well.

[@jossminion]

I absolutely love Claudia now that she’s being played by this new actress. I was with you in season 1 - although I could sympathize with Claudia’s plight and recognize that she’s been victimized in nearly every possible way, my emotional response to her ranged from indifferent to annoyed. But with Delainey Hayles playing her this season, the way she uses her facial expressions have me genuinely feeling heartbroken for her. She’s doomed, and none of it is her fault.

[@RixxeyG]

I agreeeeeee. 💔

[@sarahcoleman9912]

I love how individual people can view a piece of art so differently. I think the new actress is doing a good job but I prefer the previous one. She looked more young and innocent to me. This Claudia actually looks in her 20’s so it takes me out of it a bit.

[@struggleskywalker1025]

@@sarahcoleman9912yeah I agree on the actors looking the age of the character bit. They both did/are doing a fabulous job acting wise, but Bailey had a more youthful teenager look

[@mmandyyyy]

This sounds weird but Bailey’s Claudia reminded me of the Kardashian-Jenners which is why I didn’t particularly care for her.

[@rowanmayfair9249]

Lestat did give Louis a choice about being turned. I believe the exact line was: I'm giving you the choice I was never given.

[@Suyana06]

But I feel like context is important for that “choice”. This was the lowest point of Louis life, he was very emotionally vulnerable and he had just watched Lestat kill to people in front of him. So it’s not exactly a free choice

[@rowanmayfair9249]

@@Suyana06 I'm merely stating the choice was given. Not Louis' state of mind or the acceptance of it. She said he was never given a choice. He was.

[@shadowseer07]

It’s very good that your perspective of the characters is changing. That should happen over and over, because different perspectives do change the story, depending of who it’s coming from. None of these characters are saints, and they all have good and bad qualities. In many ways Lestat is selfish, and he will do anything to survive, but in other ways he can be magnanimous and very generous.His biggest problem is that he’s capricious, so you never know what you’re gonna get!😅

[@marisolm5384]

The guy talking to Louis and Armand is Jean-Paul Sartre!

[@_adrian_sean]

🌬️💨💨 the cloud gift is an old thing that new vampires can't do. Because Santiago does have the cloud gift and is stronger than everyone else that means he was made by a very... VERY old vampire. 🌍 Also... If you notice in the opening credits it says Immortal Universe. The late Anne Rice wrote many books connected to Interview With the Vampire. Y'all gotta pay attention now to all the little pauses and side moments. The IMMORTAL UNIVERSE, the production company for AMC and the universe Anne Rice built, are starting to assemble.

[@lynnetter.freeman570]

This ep set up seasons 3-5 (if the seasons correspond to the books) 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@Deltadivaix]

Autobots, roll out. It's all starting to come together.!!

[@MxMelissa6]

Highly suggest using closed captions! There’s so much information that can get lost in accents and quick dialogue ❤

[@Deltadivaix]

Right! I love closed caption.

[@jordanparker657]

The man in the restaurant speaking to Daniel is Ragland James, may or may not be working for the Talamasca ( they monitor supernatural beings like vampires and witches- they are in the Mayfair Witches already but AMC is developing a show where the organization is front and center). The man in the piano club was Jean-Paul Sartre, French existentialist/ philosopher. Louis has one if his books in his nightstand in present day Dubai. I was shocked to hear you both say Claudia was annoying. What exactly is annoying you about her? Lestat is not selfish he held back from telling Louis everything he knows because he has no chòice. He's been exposed to secrets that have to be held. Did Armand have a relationship with Lestat? What reasons might he have to embellish their circumstance? All of the vampires as they themselves have said are born out of trauma. Those are the ones that seem to have " a capacity for enduring " 😊

[@Vienne2Luv]

I love this series so much! But, I have some differing opinions. Lestat has a selfish nature, but truly loved Louie! Louie was a hypocrite for continually blaming Lestat, stating "you stole my life!" Louie was given a choice & he chose Lestat... even 'after' witnessing those two brutal murders, by the way! Louie then proceeded to withhold the love that he knew Lestat craved so much from him... leading up to Louie's nihilistic assault! Claudia was a total victim of Louie's selfishness! Which explains her deep resentment of Louie, that people perceive as just being annoying! Armand is holding onto to dark secrets, that I believe are still to come. Regardless, I'm holding my breath for Lestat to return 'in the flesh' as opposed to just Louie's ghost!

[@ac85450]

I feel like Lestat is very monetarily and gift-givingly generous, but as far as knowing how to be a genuine, reciprocating person, and give of himself in a way that actually means something to other people (he grew up impoverished in a destitute castle apparently, so money means a lot to him, but it's not everything to the people he loves) he tends to fall short. Even after beating the literal crap out of Louis and dropping him from airplane levels, he just shows up for the next 6 years with innumerable, costly gifts, expecting to be let back in again, even though he had basically seen himself out-- and later in season 1, he's complaining to Antoinette about how much money he spends on Claudia and Louis, saying that they're ungrateful, all while he's still booed up with her after lying and saying he killed her (also literally CUTTING OFF HER FINGER to complete THIS goal 😭), and he's even STILL verbally and emotionally abusive to Claudia and sometimes Louis too. He loves the romance, the chase, which is why he loves Louis bc Louis is very beautiful and romanceable, but also extremely avoidant and doesn't know his own worth (some of his first words to Louis, in his head at the card table, were "these men, they look down on you.... do you not know your value?"), so that gives Lestat the opportunity to step in and tell it to him all the time, showering him in flowery praise and compliments. This gives Lestat, in his head, a place in the world, a role (i.e. Louis' minder, Louis' confidence, Louis' oxygen), and it makes him feel good about his capabilities as a lover and as the head of a household. But he's severely limited in his ability to sacrifice his own comfort and sense of self for others. He can endure a lot of suffering, and is, himself, a survivor-- but if he thinks he can have his cake and eat it too (or his Antoinette and Louis too), he will lie, cheat, beat, threaten, and coerce people to get his way (hence, him dragging Claudia back from the train "to make Louis happy" under threat of "turning her bones into dust" after shaking her with the imagery of a gruesome decapitation murder and using vulgar wording to describe her sexual abuse at the hands of Bruce). His narcissistic traits are covert a lot of the time, but he's definitely extremely selfish and lacking remorse about many things that normal people would. Some of it may be the vampirism but a lot of it might just be the trauma that shaped him into being this jaded. And to think he's so old and could live life without consequence for so long that all his worst qualities just flourished. Louis said to Claudia that he could see how someone could turn out just like him if left alone so long and if they had been through all the same things, which is another reason Lestat is obsessed with Louis. Louis is very empathetic, even to people and attitudes he doesn't agree with or embody (like when he pulled his knife on Paul to not look weak on Liberty and code-switches depending on where he is and who's around). Lestat believes Louis is the only one who could ever love and understand him, so he pursues him and loves him and hurts him in the hope that he will never have to lose that. But he's so damn charming!! Armand fell instantly in love, and it was basically a short fling, but Armand was left so devastated bc for some reason, to be loved by Lestat FEELS so good-- partially bc we deep down all know he only really cares about himself. If you're the exception, you feel special, and he's just so cute and funny, so it's easy to forgive him and make light of the things he does that don't match his angelic beauty, and live for the way he's so loving and generous when he's happy. And just like with narcissistic abuse, it makes the times he's not happy feel like your own fault-- which is why Louis and Armand can't get over him even though they know what he is now wiht 20/20 hindsight. Even tho Louis can say he had it coming, he can't FEEL he had it coming. And legend has it that Armand is STILL pining to this day. lol this a whole essay

[@vividlykc]

THIS.

[@remholloway2579]

I read it all!!! 👋

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

Armand is a sick little devil…makes Lestat seem like a choir boy. What is happening thus far is everyone else’s impression of Lestat..we will see the real Lestat in the next chapter. Lestat is deep..afraid the ones he loves will leave. I’m the later books, Lestat adopts a 6 year old orphan and raises her, he hires the best Nanny, sends her to the best schools. It was truly a sweet story. Y’all will fall in love and quickly out of love with Armand..lestat Made Claudia to keep Louis..what will Armand do to sweet Claudia to keep Louis?

[@ac85450]

@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia oh yeah, i know Armand is The Worst ™️ but he’s definitely just as morally gray as Lestat is at least, and we haven’t really gotten into why Armand’s a little a*hole in the tv series yet. I love Lestat and he’s morally gray because he does a lot of good things as well as bad things, but they dont cancel each other out and become white or black. We, just like Louis, have to either take it or leave it. I feel like Lestat and Armand are a match for each other’s crazy, and i definitely think Louis attracts and is attracted to emotionally abusive/manipulative people. His mom stood out to me as a major one. I think Lestat wants very badly to have a good heart, but he’s also too much of a hedonist.

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

@@ac85450 I really hope they bring Marius in. I absolutely adore the character! I think Daniel has already met Lestat… Raglan James!! If they do a character switch, Daniel with David, then Daniel will be made in Raglan’s body, but if they do the switch who will make him? Lestat?

[@crazieanimefan1]

Lestat's nickname in universe is The Brat Prince. So as Louis said, he's in for himself. One thing I noticed was that in the beginning, Armand looked emaciated and just paper thin and dirty compared to how he looks in the 40s and now, well kept, snazzy suits, able to take people to a fancy resturant. So Lestat really did change even him physically as well.

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

He was dubbed the brat prince by Marius. Armand’s maker, but it was always used in a tongue in cheek sort of a term of endearment. And he truly becomes prince of the vampires

[@lilianaarmijo4518]

eran los hijos de satan y le servian en los libros todos eran andrajosos y descuidados con su persona consideraban una blasfemia que lestat como vampiro se luciera ante los humanos y acudiera a lugares iluminados bien vestido armand mintio sobre el

[@mc-inversal7069]

When his headspace begins to rattle with that hollow echo; of inescapable form... Louis always leans into the hand that wipes at his upper lip. First it was alchohol, then blood, the aforementioned - imaginary taste of Lestats' lips ~ resting just above his ...

[@Kaito20107]

The show picked up the pace and then some in this episode as u wanted😁. Is Lestat selfish? (Just based on the show without book spoilers). I think he is when it comes to pursuing his happiness and what he wants. In the books he's called the Brat Prince for a reason. But he is also generous and can be sweet to his loved ones and wants them to be happy. So I see him as a mix of selfish and selfless. Regarding the Armand flashback, keep in mind it's from Armand's POV. The way it's told is rushed and filmed/told like a dramatic tale. It was written and executed differently from Louis and Claudia's POVs. I found it hilarious because Lestat was over the top and romanticized in Armand's eyes and their "romantic" scene in the box had some cheesy lines. And like Daniel said "that's it?" (While Armand looks satisfied and lost in his romantic story. Theater director that he is😅). Perfectly told and wrapped up with a pretty bow with an addendum that Lestat left, that Louis provided.

[@Incite-westworld]

Bien l’bonjour 👋🏾 , been waiting for your reaction, now let me grab some popcorns 🍿 and enjoy ! 😉 Sending some love from Paris, France 🇫🇷

[@remholloway2579]

What did you think about the French on this episode? Did it sound authentic?

[@Incite-westworld]

@@remholloway2579 not to be rude, here we are very much demanding when it comes to our language, that being said: let’s say Armand actor practiced/worked hard and it shows, but most of the time I had to look at subtitles especially with Lestat… which in my opinion ruined the show… Once again that’s from a native speaker perspective.

[@HuntingViolets]

Let's not forget who is narrating each time.

[@amarawombat]

Was WAITING for you both to react to this episode

[@evangelinasmusic]

Re: Did Armand know the coven wouldn’t be able to handle it? *Book Spoiler* . . . . Armand killed them in the book lol

[@sarahcoleman9912]

Book spoiler question.. …. …… In the books didn’t Armand allow them to kill Claudia and then Louis burns down the theater killing them all?

[@HuntingViolets]

@@sarahcoleman9912 BOOK SPOILER ANSWER AND POSSIBLE FUTURE TV SHOW SPOILERS Yes, although this is retconned in a later book to something that is worse, depending on your viewpoint. I do think it may turn out that Armand killed the coven in the show once we get another version. Lestat also rejected him in the book, so I'm not sure that isn't the case here too, despite what Armand is telling Daniel. I'm not sure we'll ever get a definitive answer to what's true, though.

[@remholloway2579]

Y’all are funny 😄

[@lenorawilson2326]

Hello guys, I feel Lastat has been getting the short end of the stick. Yes he did use Armand to gain knowledge of these powers or better how to unlock those powers. Like Armand told Lastat his maker was Magnis so therefore Lastat was already in possession of these powers and gifts. It's just that Magnis died before he showed Lastat how to properly utilize them. Lastat is to independent and too much of a free sprint to ever be confined by rules. I believe the reason Lastat left Armand that money was to pay him for his time and information or rather repay him. And you youvrecall in season one he told Louis that it was wrong to make her so young, but he did it anyway for Louis. And remember we are getting Louis and Armand's version of the events in question. We have yet to hear Lastat's version of events.

[@jordanparker657]

The show may allow Lestat to give his version but in TVL , he doesn't rehash this story, it's his early years , being turned and subsequent adventures 😊

[@lenorawilson2326]

@@jordanparker657 I believe it has been hinted at a season 3 so I believe that will be Lastat's story.

[@jordanparker657]

@@lenorawilson2326 I hope there are more than 3 seasons, after TVL- everyone wants to see Rock star Lestat, I would love an awesome version of Queen of the Damned and the finale could be Blood Communion.

[@lynnetter.freeman570]

We also have to remember we are getting memories of Lestat from 2 unreliable narrators…

[@lenorawilson2326]

@@lynnetter.freeman570 Yes exactly

[@mitch1833]

I love the way you two enjoy this show! It is so good!

[@androd1279]

Syntell is definitely on to something with all his opinions...

[@lynnetter.freeman570]

Actually, Louis made a choice: he could’ve chosen to die. Also, Lestat observed Louis pulling a knife on his brother, being a pimp etc, so also saw the ruthlessness in him. But Louis really wasn’t about that life.

[@vividlykc]

he was going to commit suicide that night that lestat followed him to the church and killed the priests. yes he made a choice but under very extreme circumstances. he wasn't even in the right state of mind and lestat used that for his own benefit.

[@amyg9518]

I love your discussions after the episode! As for whether Armand is cowardly...no. I'm a book reader and I won't expand too much for the sake of avoiding spoilers, but Armand hasn't given up his full story, least of all his true feelings about that time. He just kind of stopped seemingly halfway through and stared at Daniel, and there's a reason for that. I can't wait for you to get a real grasp on him. He's my favorite.

[@sarahcoleman9912]

Oh we on speaker 😂

[@Wattsupwithhybristophilia]

We all know Lestat will be a music superstar… but what music will he be playing? Anne Rice had him playing metal, I can’t see that happening.. I can’t wait to see what genre of music, possibly a movie star instead of rock star..maybe a KZbin creator that has gone viral??

[@NyikoDoris]

That final sequence was just too good, I’ve been thinking about it since Sunday. The score, Claudia’s face going from pure elation to dread and despair when she realizes she is still going to be kept in the little girl box, Armand trying to be a good coven leader but being unable to kill Louis so he chooses him at the end, Louis finally putting aside his guilt and self hatred and allowing himself to want Armand This is premier television y’all Overall I don’t think I can get over the emotional and physical abuse Lestat dealt to Louis and Claudia in s1 but in terms of selfishness I think vampirism is inherently selfish, all of them are selfish. Lestat turns Claudia for Louis so Louis doesn’t leave him, Louis kisses and I’m assuming sleeps with Armand like 3 minutes after he says Claudia won’t live long with no further questions about it, Armand instead of just leaving the coven in the hands of Santiago says “I’ll deal with Louis” and then turns around and chooses him over the coven that’s been loyal to him for years and Claudia in her quest to find someone that would put her first shames and blames Louis for not completely hating Lestat the way she does.

[@Starlight-em4vy]

What a good analysis. I didn't even think about how Louis dismissed the "Claudia won't live long." Kind of makes me like him a little bit less!

[@NyikoDoris]

@@Starlight-em4vy thank you! Oh I have a tentative theory about Louis and the way he loves

[@struggleskywalker1025]

@@NyikoDorisI’d love to hear it

[@NyikoDoris]

@@struggleskywalker1025 what I’ve got so far is Louis was taught that love is doing and giving everything due to him being the oldest and having to keep his extremely judgmental mother appeased while keeping their family financially afloat. Now Louis doesn’t work, all he has is time, love and his feelings of not doing enough so he overcompensates. He never had someone to take care of him and when you tangle that up with the fact that he never had any long term male partners before turning, you get him going for partners who take charge and care of him and he feels the only way to show his appreciation and affection is by looking the other way when they exhibit red flags. Then there’s Claudia who has conflicting feelings in regards to her relationship with Louis: she doesn’t want to be seen as his daughter but she subconsciously wants the protection and affections of a parent that she never got in life so these two things are warring and because Louis never pushes and they both aren’t good at SAYING how they feel, it makes CLAUDIA fall to the wayside. He loves Claudia but he is like a parent who chooses an abusive relationship over their child because he thinks that’s the best way to show his love and devotion to Lestat/Armand as well as avoid any conflict

[@hypocritex]

Skipping the Lestat walking into the covens lair was a big miss.. Probably best scene of the episode.

[@alishab88]

I was worried that Armand was going to kill Louis until he started fondling Louis's hair. He can't keep his hands off him like Lestat. Is anyone surprised that Louis invited Armand upstairs after telling him about his history with Lestat and Claudia not living for long? I wonder if Louis's motive is to seduce Armand to convince him not to tell the coven to kill Claudia. Do you think Armand really loves Louis or is he using him to get to Lestat? I know Lestat rejected him and I wonder if he sees Louis as a prize. On a side note, Louis did not look like he was into that kiss lol

[@GenerousKingATL]

Bes episode but I want Lestat with Louis

[@nkechi4635]

I love you guys but I legit can never understand how any viewer can find Claudia annoying. She by far has it the worst out of all the vampire characters. Essays can be written on how shit her situation is. Idk it just feels like too many people don't give grace for female messiness the way they do for make messiness.

[@denisestephens1685]

Who is lestat, maker ? I am not sure if I missed that information.

[@KelliFranklin]

His name was Magnus.

[@beautifulloly]

lestat's maker? he explains it in s1ep6 i think, his name is Magnus and he killed himself after he made him

[@lilianaarmijo4518]

armand es conto una bonita historia de amor con lestat y que nicky no significaba nada para el una gran mentira lestat y nicky compartian una historia mutua en su vida humana apoyandose y como amantes huyeron a paris para hacer lo que les apasionaba su musica y la acuacion , pasaron miserias pero eran muy felices hasta que se atraveso en sus vidas magnus y sello la suerte de lestat

[@remholloway2579]

You’re on the right track but wrong train with Armand. Let me just say this, the truth of Armand’s backstory (at least how it is in the books) is a whoooolllleee lot worse than what’s presented here. And also… Lestat is 1000% selfish. But that is the beauty of Anne Rices characters. They are not one dimensional. They don’t just subscribe to one mode of being. To use the prior example… yes Lestat is selfish. But he is also very generous, and has the capacity for selflessness. The one thing I really love and dislike about Lestat is that he is always without fail himself.

[@kev121]

Claudia is the only one who cared for Louis and wanted nothing back except reciprocity. That includes the members of his raggedy family lol. Regarding Lestat, he is incredibly selfish. He wants what he wants when he wants and gives what he wants when he feels like it. Yes he made Claudia for Louis but he knew there were rules against it and the end result would be disastrous. It was manipulation to get Louis back in line. And yes, he gave the coven money and showed them a better way to exist, but only after he told Armand he loved him to gain knowledge of his potential power. Once he learned, he bounced and basically left money on the dresser lol.

[@Deltadivaix]

Money on the dresser. Lol

[@TamelessKinks]

Great review as usual!!!! ❤️

[@whatadollslife]

I think they are going to punish Claudia for the act of killling Bruce ,because they know Lestat has not met the true death ...I just hope they dont put her in the rat box

[@vividlykc]

louis murdered his maker for good reason tho. lestat does show that he is selfless when it comes to monetary things but with everything else he is quite selfish. also, lestat did not warn louis about the wrongs of making a child a vampire before he turned claudia. he didn't tell him anything just as louis told armand. there is so much that lestat kept from him that would've been useful to know.

[@maggie2773]

No hate but the reason I can't stomach reactions to this show anymore is this idea going around that Claudia is "annoying".... But she barely does anything. Like most of the things Claudia does are very logical except for when she broke down and heavily serial killed back in NOLA. The world she lives in wants her to just stop taking space and being eager and excited and proud. They want her to return to being an accessory to Louis and Lestat's lives, with no desire or relationships or future of her own, to shut up and stop trying to be her own person, and every attempt she makes at existing outside of them is brutally punished - while they get to be their most horrible selves (and I love their characters so much but that's besides the point). And seeing the audience feels the same way is heartbreaking. Like I know it's not that deep, it's just a show, but also I can't help but feel like this is a little telling about the world lol. Well I enjoyed the reactions to the first season so I at least wanted to say that.

[@iwillcry]

i did a genuine double take when they called her annoying this episode, don't see it myself. she's the one holding louis' shit together! dragged him all the way from America to Paris. she deserves more respect than that.

[@charlesharry7901]

Agree she do deserve more respect and she not annoying

[@jordanparker657]

Love this Claudia. Delainey is pulling emotion from me I didn't think I would ever have for Claudia. These actors are all doing prime work. Ben Daniels has me loving Santiago and you know that's so wrong......I can't help it and don't want to. There's going to be so much heart break. Every where I look I see much love for Delainey's Claudia 😊

[@Bree6v6]

The problem is that she shouldn’t have existed in the first place. Lestat and Louis were both selfish in creating her and we see the results of that. It’s also very hard because it’s so different, in the books we start to see Claudia’s kind of decent into madness where we understand why she shouldn’t have been turned so young. I think her character is much more sympathetic in the show and it makes it a bit harder to dislike her, but in all honesty I also have little love for her character. Lestat tried his hardest to keep them away from other vampires yes for selfish reasons, but also because he knew how terrible others could be. Louis wanted to leave, but he stayed because Claudia wanted to be around others like her.Also I believe another problem with the fandom is infantilizing Claudia. At this point she is far from a child and she was able to make her own decisions. I also think just like Lestat , Claudia is just as manipulative at times. Claudia knows how much she means to Louis and uses that to get her way , she used him to get rid of Lestat , and to stay in Paris. We are just seeing now how that is going to backfire on her.

[@PLLittleMama2007]

@@Bree6v6 I couldn’t agree more. While I do feel some sympathy for Claudia because she did not asked to be created, she brought a lot of her suffering on to herself. She killed Charlie then blamed Lestat. She cause a rift between Louis and Lestat. She ran off and allowed herself to be captured and tortured by Bruce. She came back and told Lestat to his face that she would be taking his love away from him putting Louis is a bad position (she could have talked to Louis in the cemetery). She manipulated Louis into believing he wanted Lestat dead and then she tried to burn Lestat’s body (thankfully Louis stepped in). She dragged them across a Warzone and now is trying to force Louis to join a coven of vampires that Lestat warned her about. Sorry but in the end Claudia will be responsible for her own fate.

[@leaundrajones2392]

Francis Bacon!!!!!!!!!! 🤩

[@naefaust581]

What happened to Claudia in the present?

[@Leomerya12]

FINALLY.

[@whatadollslife]

Armand throws rocks and hides his hand......hes not like us

[@OscarWild333]

Syntell is pretty perceptive about these characters

[@mslavender7994]

Lestat warned Claudia and Louis about the European vampires. They didn't heed his warning .

[@PerfectlyImperfect93]

Father of lies. By that point they didn’t believe anything he said.

[@NyikoDoris]

Dawg he said “they are bad” and left it there I wouldn’t believe him either if someone i distrusted said that to me

[@jordanparker657]

​@@PerfectlyImperfect93 I was thinking about that line today as to why she doesn't believe there is danger as Lestat warned her about. Too bad.

[@cullenarthur8879]

​​@@NyikoDorishe said they were "vicious", which they absolutely are. He knew that neither Louis (the most human of the vampires) nor Claudia (made too young) would be tolerated by the vicious, petty, devious vampires of Europe. He tried to protect them. They are going to have to learn the hard way that he was right.

[@NyikoDoris]

@@cullenarthur8879 my point is he didn’t elaborate. He said the bare minimum, and you can’t tell me you believe that he thought that would be enough for them

[@HuntingViolets]

The Bacon Tryptych.

[@DoubleBlack2.0]

9:33 Damn, y’all be excusing Armand an AWFUL lot. Lmao

[@DoubleBlack2.0]

Update now that I’m at the end of the video: I’m glad you’re starting to catch on, haha!

[@StephGibs06]

That man in the cafe can be an ancient vampire. Ancient vampires can be in the light because, overtime, they become less sensitive to the sun. Season 1 addresses the concept when Armand showed that he was a vampire to Daniel and Daniel did not understand how Armand was in the sun. The older the vampire, the less they have to stay outta the sun. Therefore, that man in the cafe is probably even older than Armand a.k.a more ancient

[@cullenarthur8879]

He's said his name was Raglan James, who in the books, was once a member of the Talamasca, but was kicked out for theft. He later stole Lestats body in Tale of the Body Thief. Whether he is still part of the Talamasca when we see him in this episode, I'm not sure.

[@Banyo__]

My POV: Lestat is selfish. What Armand and Louis have wanted is an emotional deep connection with Lestat, love if you will, and were both willing to give it, practically no questions asked. Lestat has always been the one to dip out or treat them like a footnote if they didn't serve his purpose importantly, in the manner in which he wanted. If Armand didn't want to live as freely and purely as he did without the burden of the laws of the vampires, then so be it, he left. When Louis refused to cater to his every whim and need and dared love Claudia unconditionally, he FIRST, almost killed him before Louis got to him in the end. I also liken Lestat's relationship to them like an absentee father---what good is a pile of money you leave your kid on their birthday when all they want is their dad to show up and be there for them? Armand could care less about the theater, and Louis, about the wealth, if Lestat would commit to them and show them a way to live an eternal life without endless crushing loneliness and pain. I mean, despite his protests, Lestat "gave" Claudia to Louis, but again, selfishness, when it became about her and not him, he was like F both of you. Clearly no one in this circle of toxicity can dictate how anyone loves them, and the choices made in regards to respect and commitment to one another are on a fraying wire at best.

[@Ladygothii12]

Give it human beings who have seen a narcissist main abuse and manipulate before their own eyes, and turn around and call the person who planned and fought, dragged back, still escaped, and ultimately still betrayed .....annoying -_-

[@Tez.92]

❤❤❤

[@RealRashidNo8]

I have a huge problem with Lestat not telling Louis and Claudia about the history of vampires and then also not letting Claudia go so that she can learn about or find other vampires. Lestat fetching Claudia from that train is top 2 of his biggest offences.

[@LBright4444]

How can Claudia and Louis be held accountable for laws They never knew?

[@googleuser7454]

even in the legal system they say ignorance of the law is not an excuse. and vampires are even harsher

[@アキコ2003]

Damn, internalized misogyny miss? Now I remember why I stopped watching your season 1 reactions

[@Kat_Dmaorg]

Armands maker was also abusive so he definitely knows what louis is going through

[@gregdbarnes]

Lestat is selfish. He turned Louis and then demanded Louis' complete attention. They were the only two vampires in America as far as Louis knew, and Lestat taught Louis nothing about other vampires in the world. Lestat withheld information that would have helped make Louis a complete person.