Synth Battle: Matriarch vs. Pro 3 vs MS-20

[@Sy_nerd]

Your videos give my pro 3 always more value, keep on making these!

[@Sound_ology]

Haha thanks! I have another Pro 3 video coming out next, I'm pretty excited about it.

[@Sy_nerd]

@@Sound_ology my phone will let me know when its available, cant wait 🤟

[@mauriciomandara5946]

Wow ! The NTS 1 is a great addition to the MS20… they all sound great, but the MS 20 has too much of a personality… It’s unique IMO. Great sounding synths! Like them all! Thanks for sharing!

[@Sound_ology]

Yeah the NTS-1 goes perfectly with the MS-20! I just need to figure out a good way to mount it to the top or something to keep them together, the NTS-1 is so lightweight it moves around a lot.

[@allkeyspro6606]

Great programming! I love all these sounds very much! You found such beautiful deep tones on all 3 of these synths!

[@ebull666]

You make them all sound equally great

[@MarcoPolux]

Darn! that MS-20 is such a lovely synth, loads of personality definitively. Man!! how could you ditch the Pro 3? (have you re-bought it already?)

[@joelkulesha8284]

This is almost the exact setup I'm looking at (minus the pro 3) so it's great seeing them working together, helps out a ton on what to buy, thanks!

[@Sound_ology]

Let me know if you do buy one, I’m curious to know what you hear

[@dionysis_]

I wasn’t expecting that but.. Pro 3 for everything. Unless one wants an old sounding hyper raw sound of course. Then MS-20 (obviously).

[@chinmitten]

Woah the MS20 was my favorite Moog patch. Pro 3; just a little to sharp, glassy. Matriarch a little too round and soft. MS20 was just right for me. Didn't expect that.

[@Sound_ology]

That's a great way of putting it! I think I feel the same way...it's definitely the least touchy as far as filter cutoffs, huge sweet spots everywhere.

[@thehellostranger]

Great meditations on synthesis 🧘

[@googlingthevoid]

Damn, I have been considering selling my MS-20 to fund a new mono. Think I’ll be sticking with it! So much more explore on this beast.

[@Sound_ology]

Ooh, yeah I can never sell my MS-20....what were you considering swapping it out for?

[@googlingthevoid]

@@Sound_ology I was between the Matriarch, Pro 3 and Subsequent 37. The Taiga looks like fun too and may be nice to have in addition to the MS-20. I’m also watching the development of the PWM Mantis. The MS-20 was my first love in synthesis, so in the end, I think it would be a shame to sell. I may need to challenge my songwriting and sound design rather than swapping out gear.

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

Fascinating again...Matriarch really is a powerhouse with personality

[@dimensionstomorrow]

Great video and really shows off how great the MS20 sounds. I ordered a clone to use alongside my Grandmother. I really like these raw kinds of synths. The Pro3 sounded great on the last patch, but I didn’t like it in the others. That said, the other synths did a great job with that last one as well and I honestly preferred them in that case too. This has really helped me to understand what kind of synth sounds I prefer.

[@HiLoMusic]

Always gravitate towards your vids. Good sounds good vibes

[@Hegelmusic]

Hello there. Great informative video! Was wondering how you have patched up the ms20 "imitating" the matriarch? Love that patch and like to recreate it with mine :) Best, Roland

[@Sound_ology]

Thanks! I decoupled the oscillators by patching Keyboard CV -> sample and hold -> Osc 2 Frequency. The S+H clock comes from the Keyboard Gate. Step 2 is to connect Env 1 to the Amp Gain, that way the filter envelope and amp envelope can be different. Finally I modulated the cutoff of the LPF with the LFO. No resonance on the filters...The tape delay on the Korg NTS-1 brings us much closer too.

[@quinnzender]

I'm surprised by the MS-20's performance here (or rather your performance with it). My takeaways are not at all what I had expected when I began the video. I thought the Matriarch would be my favorite (as an owner of one, I thought that might bias me). But the MS-20 had a full, rich presence . The Matriarch on the other hand was dark, simmering and brooding easily. The Pro 3 felt most articulate, focused. MS-20 comes in first for me, followed by Pro-3, then Matriarch. Totally thought it would be exact opposite. I think I'll go dust off my MS-20 mini now =))

[@Sound_ology]

I was impressed with the MS-20 too! Adding effects to it really made me realize how much it shines when put on a level playing field with the others. The Matriarch sounds awesome with the filters in series too, but there’s a little less play in the knobs since the filter slopes are steeper. And the Pro 3’s digital HPF is definitely a weakness but with all the other distortion options it makes up for it

[@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135]

you can make the Moog Matriarch more Brighter It's possible

[@hyprz]

Just wondering did you turn the Pro-3's filter compensation off in this demo ? Otherwise it wont get as aggressive as it can

[@crime_wavez]

can you do a video recreating the pro 3 patch at 11:38? liking that

[@Sound_ology]

Yeah, great idea!

[@TorstenSommer-c3p]

i like that squelchy, dirty sound of the ms20 filter.

[@Sound_ology]

Yeah it never gets old!

[@jon_gee]

Excellent experiment! Nice sound designs. All a matter of taste I suppose. I’d love to see a conclusion at the end of your thoughts.

[@Sound_ology]

Thank you! Yes I like that idea

[@maarzt]

wonderful video thank you

[@EarlyMist]

You can hear the overtones in the MS20 are harmonically rich and musical. I like my Pro 3 a lot, but would consider the MS20. I'm selling my Matriarch as I can only keep one and the ability of the Pro 3 to save patches makes it practical in my line of music making...

[@Sound_ology]

Sounds reasonable, the Pro 3 has such a vast sonic palette, it’s like having 3 synths

[@user-rv8wb1nl1b]

Pro 3 , it does what the others do and more , the input is awesome , the noise , the distortion , the tuned feedback too, the modulation . . . . .

[@Sound_ology]

The tuned feedback absolutely rips!!

[@novalogue]

Ms20 is a real noise machine

[@Sound_ology]

Haha yeah there’s a significant amount of post-filter white noise that comes with every key trigger!

[@buschovski1]

Matriarch's delay is so great.

[@sudbenzer6603]

which reverb are u using on the identifiable pro 3 patch? and is the wobble from an lfo which is modulating pitch or shape mod? great work here!

[@Sound_ology]

Thanks, good ears! The lfo is modulating pitch and changes rate with keyboard cv, and the reverb is Super Plate, my favorite settings are size: 190, tone: 38, pre-delay: 5

[@sudbenzer6603]

@@Sound_ology much apreeesh! didn't know that the reverb can sound like that, nice!

[@khajub]

thank you for sharing : I am into Pro 3 and want to choose between Moog Studio (complete Set Moog Mother-32, DFAM and Subharmonicon) or Matriarch what will you recommend ??

[@Sound_ology]

I think you’ll get more out of the Moog Sound Studio, you can always use the keyboard from the Pro 3 to control and enhance it. It’s a totally different instrument though! Like if we pretended that the Pro 3 and Matriarch were guitars then the Moog Sound Studio would be more of a drum set.

[@khajub]

@@Sound_ology Thank you 🙏 I will go then to Pro 3 and Moog Studio 🙏 Many thanks again

[@McEnroe911]

I’m surprised how bland the pro 3 sounds. Matriarch and ms20 sound incredible. Thanks for the video!

[@trueneutral3092]

Pro 3 is a beeeast.

[@Vim-Wolf]

The guy to the right during the intro ha mixed too much hair colouring.