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@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
ARMOR TIERLIST kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWG1aoB6m5dqZ7Mfeature=shared timestamps 0:00 All 21 Black Myth Wukong Weapons 0:21 Tier List Ranking Criteria 1:15 D TIER WEAPONS 2:40 C TIER WEAPONS 4:38 LOW B TIER 7:40 HIGH B TIER 11:35 LOW A TIER 17:00 HIGH A TIER 30:00 S TIER WEAPONS 40:40 NEXT VIDEO
@kaint8974
@kaint8974 4 ай бұрын
Hey so I don't remember exactly what I did, but I managed to get the dark iron staff way back in like chapter 2 of my ng+ playthrough so you don't have to go all the way to the chapter 5 secret area to get it
@MFDOOM..
@MFDOOM.. 4 ай бұрын
Can you rank all the armor sets?
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
@@MFDOOM.. already on it!
@MFDOOM..
@MFDOOM.. 4 ай бұрын
@@syrobe Let’s Go! Can’t wait to see it
@abdaabda
@abdaabda 4 ай бұрын
Spell ranking when
@mediumtext8038
@mediumtext8038 4 ай бұрын
No Yin Tigers were harmed in the process of making this video
@BigScoDDogg
@BigScoDDogg 4 ай бұрын
I just finally beat him today he is a tier 1 boss 😂😂
@femiairboy94
@femiairboy94 4 ай бұрын
Every time his health goes down to 10% he goes bat shit crazy
@TheDestinedOne789
@TheDestinedOne789 3 ай бұрын
@@BigScoDDoggfr lol
@IronLung90
@IronLung90 3 ай бұрын
YIN TIGER LIVES MATTER protest coming up
@abdulrahmanmohammed9712
@abdulrahmanmohammed9712 2 ай бұрын
Fr
@natecward8322
@natecward8322 4 ай бұрын
I wish there were more staffs that did status effect damage
@SiverFangBlackWing
@SiverFangBlackWing 4 ай бұрын
I wish most equipment that did didn’t require being affected by that status.
@vjmasta3809
@vjmasta3809 4 ай бұрын
@@SiverFangBlackWing exactly bro, it was okay if there was something like in elden ring where you can force yourself to be in that status through items.
@ChidiGaming
@ChidiGaming 4 ай бұрын
@@vjmasta3809you can use gourds to do it for poison but I get what you mean
@SaviorsChild
@SaviorsChild 4 ай бұрын
I wish I could use best stance in game outside of one chaptwr
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq 4 ай бұрын
​@@SaviorsChildif youre talking about the wukong stance you can use it when all the relic slots are awakened. use the full monkey king armor set and the jingu bang. use a level 4 heavy and you activate the wukong stance for aboht 60 seconds
@PANCAKEPAP1
@PANCAKEPAP1 4 ай бұрын
The spear your get from Erlang is INSANE. Especially when paired with the relic that has your clones mimic your special abilities - you get to shoot a TON of spears lol
@ridatego438
@ridatego438 4 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. This weapon is being slept on
@PANCAKEPAP1
@PANCAKEPAP1 4 ай бұрын
@ridatego438 the spear barrage adds a little extra dmg too which is great. If the boss is one shot away, the spears will chip away at the health lol
@ridatego438
@ridatego438 4 ай бұрын
@PANCAKEPAP1 yeah, I also use it as projectiles if the boss is out of reach. Still does decent damage. Also, foreseeing the enemy in this stance is just way too satisfying. I'm at ng++ and it still humbles all bosses
@ridatego438
@ridatego438 4 ай бұрын
@Kavoshio who said it was? For me it's the most fun
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
No the clones do not and cannot shoot the special weapon. thats not how it works
@dr_slim_shady
@dr_slim_shady 4 ай бұрын
As a Chinese, using anything other than JinGuBang gives me the vibe of an Italian adding pineapple to pizza or adding ketchup to pasta lol.
@XuHaochengRyanHshs
@XuHaochengRyanHshs 4 ай бұрын
Me too. after getting it, I literally never used another weapon again.
@fightinggamesexplained453
@fightinggamesexplained453 4 ай бұрын
LMAO this is hilarious.
@XuHaochengRyanHshs
@XuHaochengRyanHshs 4 ай бұрын
@@fightinggamesexplained453 whats so funny.
@fightinggamesexplained453
@fightinggamesexplained453 4 ай бұрын
@@XuHaochengRyanHshs it was a funny comparison. I appreciated it because I know EXACTLY what the OP means by this. I can see how using the mythical Ruyi Jingu Bang would be a must for anyone who knows the significance of this story, but especially those that might have grown up with it as a part of their culture. :)
@XuHaochengRyanHshs
@XuHaochengRyanHshs 4 ай бұрын
@@fightinggamesexplained453 I see.
@danielscearce9350
@danielscearce9350 4 ай бұрын
A cool thing for min/maxing is that the dark iron staff retains base damage from when it’s equipped. So after equipping it you can switch from max defense gear to max damage/crit gear for huge stats
@wolfmoon222
@wolfmoon222 4 ай бұрын
did not know that! I do that with curious when using spell binder so that makes sense!
@djw_tekken8490
@djw_tekken8490 Ай бұрын
Thx Spell binder works also like that put stamina and mana stats in activate it to get dmg from all ur mana and crit from stamina then change it
@yichenji5644
@yichenji5644 4 ай бұрын
It is worth mentioning that the two spear staff's hidden buff. The heavy attacks will break the light attack moves. Heavy follow light has to finish the light animation with all other staff. Only with the two spear staffs does the heavy following light go out the right way. When you are using the two spear staff, see-through is much, much, much easier.
@AllDayErrDay.
@AllDayErrDay. 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. How nobody else is mentioning this is insane. Not just varied combos but also dodging immediately cancels light attack animations with the spears.
@klockworks17
@klockworks17 3 ай бұрын
I noticed instantly when i unlocked the first spear that see throughs were so much easier to time and pull off. Animations are way tighter and can and shorter, i was able to resolute strike almost on demand.
@ccboy3960
@ccboy3960 4 ай бұрын
It makes sense story wise why you need to do the game 3 times (full power relics = full power wukong) but tbh… 3 secret endings…. That’s ridiculous you should just have a permanent 4th stance if you wear most of / the full wukong outfit. Maybe with a small skill tree
@mohams151
@mohams151 4 ай бұрын
Completely agree
@ulrikahaggard9923
@ulrikahaggard9923 4 ай бұрын
Agree
@stab300
@stab300 3 ай бұрын
I'll even say that, wukong stance should be there in NG+ if you get the secret ending flat out. Fuck life saving strand, give me the wukong stance skill tree. And if you get all relics thrice, just give me the great sage moveset man. Like if you beat Erlang thrice, dawg, you're already good at the game. Might as well make you stupidly overpowered. I mean who tf is complaining anyways. I modded that in and it's so goddamn fun.
@mohams151
@mohams151 3 ай бұрын
@@stab300 Beating the great sage 3 times is harder than Beating Erlang 3 times. The sage scaling is absolutely brutal. He’s so strong starting from ng++
@stab300
@stab300 3 ай бұрын
@@mohams151 sage has a lot of intuitive timings, though. And less complicated combos than Erlang. Both of them are fine once you get them down, but Erlang, to me is harder than Sage because Sage can mostly be dodged by just looking at the color of his staff or sound cues very consistently.
@ethan_ls
@ethan_ls 4 ай бұрын
before i got a hang of the game and started min-maxing my build, the golden loong staff was a lot of fun, the shock went crazy with pluck of many. then i realized how much better smash stance is lol.
@thejoaquindead9515
@thejoaquindead9515 4 ай бұрын
Smash stance really is just the best. The other two are more about filling specific, usually more defensive roles.
@ethan_ls
@ethan_ls 4 ай бұрын
@@thejoaquindead9515 resolute strike ftw
@coltizz
@coltizz 4 ай бұрын
I’ve played trough the entire game and I thought it was a good game in terms of combat lore etc. But in terms of customization and gear it’s a c minus. Just look at Wu Longs different armor sets, ability’s, while the game itself was definitely worse. Its build verity was so much better and interesting that I did play new game + there just because I wanted to try them out. In Wukong when you get the final armor you are just retarded for not using it and handicapping yourself. Every piece has bonus stats that no other armor have. Personally I see absolutely no reason at all to play new game +… Killing the same bosses wearing the same items ? Nha I’m good.
@ethan_ls
@ethan_ls 4 ай бұрын
@@coltizz respect the opinion but i personally feel there are lots of viable options, yaksha set, bull king set, gale guard set, pilgrim set, you can build around anything imo, just depends on how you want to play. I will say once you get the jingubang there’s not really an on par option until ng+, but i personally love ng+ in every game. Syrobe said it perfectly on stream the other day, it’s like a victory lap once you beat the game and can just let loose. Everyone plays differently tho at the end of the day
@coltizz
@coltizz 4 ай бұрын
@@ethan_ls You Said it yourself once you get the last Jingubang staff it makes everything else shit in comparison. And that’s just bad customized in my opinion in terms of verity. I mean the sets are still kinda meh. There are no fire sets, there are no ice/water set, the poison one is a joke. You don’t feel like they missed an opportunity to include more cool armor and weapons?
@gtgameguides3354
@gtgameguides3354 4 ай бұрын
The Bishui Beast Staff is a "bane" weapon for the Chapter 5 boss. Fun fact for those that didn't know, can really help while taking him on
@brendodo9319
@brendodo9319 4 ай бұрын
Does this just mean there are voicelines of redboy acknowledging it, or does it have some hidden effect?
@gtgameguides3354
@gtgameguides3354 4 ай бұрын
@@brendodo9319 My memory was that each chapter rewarded the player with an item for completing side quests that help with final boss. Chapter 1 (Fireproof Mantle), 2 (Wind Tamer), 3 (Spellbinder), 4 (Weaver's Needle), 5 (Bishui Beast Staff)
@bkteer
@bkteer 4 ай бұрын
The dark iron staff technically can be obtained early ng+....you just had to have skipped crafting multiple pieces of the bull king set/use only 2 pieces of bull horn. That way you can instantly start NG+ and craft the weapon.
@be9240
@be9240 4 ай бұрын
That's what I thought, I crafted it right away. I just did the helm and left the others, since the full 4 peice bonus didn't seem amazing to me. You can't really trade in this game. (Until new game plus and pluck of many combo)
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
oops....
@marcuslai6115
@marcuslai6115 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Rocking the Dark Iron Staff since NG+ Chapter 2. It goes marvellously with the leg and arm pieces of the Bull Horn set that gives it plenty of defense. Add the mask and chest piece of the Pilgrim set for increased speed and the whole NG+ experience is amazing. Super enjoyable. Never picking up plants any more is a big part of that too !
@djw_tekken8490
@djw_tekken8490 Ай бұрын
​@@be9240 you cant trade what u mean pluck of many
@iBeTruckin
@iBeTruckin 15 күн бұрын
I have weapons that are below these weapons on this list. I just got the game a week ago. Do I need to beat the challenges for them? Are they even worth the struggle?
@thecrab3128
@thecrab3128 4 ай бұрын
The tri point spear is very underestimated imo. The best part of its special attack is not the buff itself but the fact that it's fast attack with many, many hit counts. When combined with the golden set, it charges up Qi like crazy, enabling you to do spirit skill in higher frequency. And more spirit skill = more focus = more special attack = more Qi = MORE spirit skill, that's not even counting the attack buff that the golden set gives you upon using spirit skill🙉🙉🙉
@Habib-I
@Habib-I 4 ай бұрын
I love ittttt
@christonchev9762
@christonchev9762 4 ай бұрын
tho it has a low range and it works only with Thurst Stance and to many that's the weakest Stance out of the 3
@queonjacobs6823
@queonjacobs6823 4 ай бұрын
@@christonchev9762 anyone who says pillar its stronger than thrust HAS to be rage baiting
@inkheart948
@inkheart948 4 ай бұрын
Yep. I use this combo to stunlock yellow loong to death in NG+. Pretty OP.
@zakhuncho7881
@zakhuncho7881 4 ай бұрын
I was dancing on yellow loong with this combo. Set my ring of fire and let the dance begin. If he's feeling frisky I just pop my rock solid. Non void and wind tamer. Untouchable.
@Tech_D3mon
@Tech_D3mon 4 ай бұрын
28:12 "the damage it deals is concerningly underwhelming" *Literally shaving off chunks of Yin Tiger's health bar consistently with every heavy* (and is statistically on par with the jingubang and accessible within a single playthrough unlike other s tier weapons and feels more rewarding to get and has sick lore and a different moveset)
@Q2Qool
@Q2Qool 4 ай бұрын
yin-tiger doesn’t have a lot of health.
@djw_tekken8490
@djw_tekken8490 Ай бұрын
Fr delusional🤣
@djw_tekken8490
@djw_tekken8490 Ай бұрын
​@@Q2Qool delusional
@Boomer1665
@Boomer1665 4 ай бұрын
Great vid that actually shows when the earliest time you can obtain each staff is. Thank you for putting this much effort in
@duducasarotto9975
@duducasarotto9975 4 ай бұрын
the spear of erlang is insane but paired with the skill that consumes all your mana to give you a damage boost, and with the spear it becomes the best cause the changed moveset and the spear throws
@Realdrlipschitz
@Realdrlipschitz 4 ай бұрын
I still say maxed out alternative Wukong armor and dark iron set maxed out is the best combo in the game
@Ratchet-Taco
@Ratchet-Taco 4 ай бұрын
Beem running this even into ng+5
@Callmethedrink7
@Callmethedrink7 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s the only way your damage keeps up into ng+ 4
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
34:25
@coltizz
@coltizz 4 ай бұрын
I’ve played trough the entire game and I thought it was a good game in terms of combat lore etc. But in terms of customization and gear it’s a c minus. Just look at Wu Longs different armor sets, ability’s, while the game itself was definitely worse. Its build verity was so much better and interesting that I did play new game + there just because I wanted to try them out. In Wukong when you get the final armor you are just retarded for not using it and handicapping yourself. Every piece has bonus stats that no other armor have. Personally I see absolutely no reason at all to play new game +… Killing the same bosses wearing the same items ? Nha I’m good.
@Longtimec
@Longtimec 4 ай бұрын
@@coltizz sounds like issa you problem and not a game problem.
@오수민-d8w
@오수민-d8w 4 ай бұрын
The true option of the spear is that you can switch to the counter during any combo, which the staff can't do
@weemanling
@weemanling 4 ай бұрын
Still wouldn't put Tri in A tier, the stagger frequency alone from the new move is enough to make it S tier
@a.d.a.m1413
@a.d.a.m1413 4 ай бұрын
I would put Tri in higher tier on certain occasions. If you combine it with with Serpent Scale Set Armor it will deal a ton of damage, because you could deal light attack finisher much faster and reliable with the "Firce Thrust". The problem is you have to be on water arena to unlock its true potential. Well it will help so much fighting the Final Boss
@TheMightyKite
@TheMightyKite 3 ай бұрын
“That Boss” in chapter 4 has been a menace for me for two days, so I’m trying to finish the Loong quest line to atleast get some more power before fighting them again
@CA-JA
@CA-JA 4 ай бұрын
NGL the staff and this tier list I thought was gonna be generic but holy sheet the level of knowledge you have about this game is genuinely impressive.
@KibethSE
@KibethSE 4 ай бұрын
Adept spine is easily my favorite due to its flexibility and synergy with pretty much any build type. That being said I pretty much agree with all your insights on the other options in that tier.
@anteseke2396
@anteseke2396 4 ай бұрын
For the ppl struggling with the Yellow Loon boss: Use the thrust stance, don't stay too close nor too far, stay somewhere in the middle (1 full Wukong height from your head to his legs) - reason is when you are either too close or too far he will be aggressive, when you're in the middle he will just walk towards you. Charge the attack up to 3 times and blast him, it will take some time but be patient, when you see him charging his attack, stop yourself from charging and focus on dodging, you will have to dodge first 2 attacks while gaining ground between him (try to get the same mid point distance again). Otherwise he will do a full combo of about 5-6 dodges required. When you drop him to half health he will start to dodge your charge immediately with thunder jump, when I see him do that I start to charge the attack to 2 focus points and then blasting him, it seemed it worked better then - it wouldn't trigger the thunder jump as much. Or it could be that he always thunder jumps away 2 times in a row and after that you can hit him few times (after some time he will use the thunder jump again), I was able to hit him with 3 focus point charge from time to time, although 2 FP charge was more effective once below half HP. This strat worked for me, hopefully it is clear enough and it helps someone. I will explain more if needed in the comments. Edit - I also used No skill spell that boost your attack 2x but removes other spells
@LukisaNumi
@LukisaNumi 4 ай бұрын
haha bro literally what my strat was when I beat him a couple days ago I was stuck for hours then I just started sitting in fire circle and staggering him before big combos
@thisguy35
@thisguy35 4 ай бұрын
worked for me too
@supercritic100
@supercritic100 4 ай бұрын
What a trash guide. Way too complicated. The trick is just to summon your clones early, use cloud step to delay the fight and summon the clones twice in the fight. Wind tamer and whispering wight stops his weapon charge.
@thisguy35
@thisguy35 4 ай бұрын
@@supercritic100 you don't have to be rude
@anteseke2396
@anteseke2396 4 ай бұрын
@@supercritic100 Not complicated at all, just took longer to explain in 1 comment because I want to be detailed, tho ppl nowadays have short attention span. If i made a video it would be 2mins in length
@atrasricky4027
@atrasricky4027 4 ай бұрын
Jingubang all the way. In the lore, it is Wukong's favorite. In game, It has critical chance boost, cooldown reduce, attack boost, and 4th attack no longer depletes. What else can you ask tho
@dfafdasdfasdsfadsf
@dfafdasdfasdsfadsf 4 ай бұрын
I was stuck on a few things in the game guide, but Immersive Translate really cleared up the translations for me.
@guojilin
@guojilin 2 ай бұрын
29:09 actually, if you didn’t do the chapter 4 secret area’s scorpionlord, you have to wait until ng+ chapter 4 is completed or go do the scorpionlord in the secret area’s to get enough sky piercing horns.
@suhbubba176
@suhbubba176 4 ай бұрын
Btw for the tri point spear you don't need the loong dragon quests done, I only killed the cyan loong and was able to go kill erlang
@GhettoGz
@GhettoGz 4 ай бұрын
Well you still one shot them from NG+ and on. So getting some extra sparks wont hurt.
@AcePlayzRBLX
@AcePlayzRBLX 2 ай бұрын
ik im 2 months late but you can stunlock most bosses for an extremely long time using the tri point staff by using light attack until you get the move where you stab them many times (unless you see the enemy start to attack then skip to next step) then press heavy attack twice for the sword shooting move (which stunlocks all enemies as far as i have tested) then immediately after pressing the heavy attack button, repeat this process until you dont have focus points left. also its easier to do tactical retreat with the spears.
@AcePlayzRBLX
@AcePlayzRBLX 2 ай бұрын
also the reason i say to press light attack many times and not just once is to gain back focus so you can stunlock the enemy for as long as possible
@colinclark9579
@colinclark9579 2 ай бұрын
Not that I'd use the Visionary Centipede staff, but I guess it would synergize decently with the "super secret" Venomous Armguard the Venom Daoist gives you in Chp. 4, at the expense of his arms. These armguards inflict Poison Base upon landing a critical hit, and the staff gives 10% crit chance, so sure. I unlocked the Golden Loong before finishing Ch.4 and oh boy, what a weapon! I am a smash stance lover and I still use the smash stance. The 108 base damage is a big jump! I am not "forced" to use the pillar stance, but when I build up to 3 focus points I can simply switch to pillar stance and unleash the heavy. This special heavy attack seems to stun almost every boss that has had the misfortune of standing in my way since, and I take full advantage of the lightning debuff when switching back to smash stance. Your description of the Stormflash is hilarious.. "And...and...and...and..." Best run on sentence ever. lol
@AyeWhit
@AyeWhit 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tier list man! Crazy people struggle with yellow loong, him and I had a nice 45 second ish chat lol I main pvp fps games too. I haven’t played a pve story game in years. Nice change up.
@Duckman-yv7gm
@Duckman-yv7gm 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate the fact that the developers made WuKong’s staff one of if not the best staff, I mean it just makes sense and is so nice to use in new game plus (even as a bull king set enjoyer)
@4synergy
@4synergy 4 ай бұрын
Kang Jin staff goated. Carried me through most of chapter 3 and early chapter 4. Currently in Ng++ trying Yaksha king set with dark iron staff, wind tamer vessel, wandering eight, 3 defense curios and one mana increase curios plus spellbinder. Not an extensive tester but it seemed funny to max attack while “increasing damage reduction” from -30%. Also using life saving strand bc hahah funny. Fyi life saving strand procs on your transformation(I’ve only been using Azure Dome so idk if life saving strand resurrects anything else) and then it still works on me(at least i think i haven’t tried cuz everyone has died after taking 2 azure dome beatings plus a beating from me
@Bennydenim
@Bennydenim 15 күн бұрын
The tri tip spear is so insane tho, you can spam the varied combo during almost any boss fight and kill them from half… no other staff has that kind of power imo.
@xTiddi
@xTiddi 4 ай бұрын
Spirit Tier List next?
@lorddale2212
@lorddale2212 3 ай бұрын
after getting the tri-point spear and mastering thrust stance, I must say, the spear is actually OP. Super insane especially with the POM. When you have All your focus points, you can spam Forceful Thrust and absolutely melt an enemy while dodging attacks at the same time.
@prisonbread
@prisonbread 4 ай бұрын
Good God man, you did some fucking WORK with this video. Pointing out all the merits and "big picture" advantages/disadvantages of each staff is hugely helpful for knowing what I should and shouldn't bother with. Really appreciate how much knowledge and work you put into this video!
@mongodellango4732
@mongodellango4732 4 ай бұрын
Good to see the classic Jingubang get some love and appreciation. It’s probably my favourite staff and the wukong set is probably my favourite armour set too. I’ve messed around with other staves and yeah they can be extremely powerful but they aren’t half as iconic. Some may see it as boring but sometimes you can’t beat simplicity.
@rickn6923
@rickn6923 Күн бұрын
Man so happy they are already adding new content with weapons/armor and challenges. Also we have 2 dlc’s on the way and 6 more chapters. It’s Gone BE GOOD.
@MrJade12
@MrJade12 4 ай бұрын
I am really surprised someone focused on one shot challange runs would prefer a staff thats pretty much only got utility going for it.
@wolfmoon222
@wolfmoon222 4 ай бұрын
yeah kind of agree - 10 seconds is plenty of time to use the 4th focus point
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
because in any scenario other than a true one shot i would prefer the jingubang lol
@MrJade12
@MrJade12 4 ай бұрын
@@syrobe I mean if you are not going for a true one shot you don't really need the 4 focus heavy
@blackwidow7804
@blackwidow7804 4 ай бұрын
Spider celestial staff is great with the armor set that increases your dmg when poisoned while lowering poison dmg you take. So you poison yourself with gourd, gets dmg buff and tour staff apply poison on heavy hits.
@I39393I
@I39393I 4 ай бұрын
one little thing about the spear light attack the modified light attack has huge cancle window on attack 2 and 3 made it really easy to use the back hop(i forgot what the moves name) like ur using long sword in monster hunter
@knight_link7082
@knight_link7082 4 ай бұрын
One thing I will say in the blazing karmas defense, I used it on the mantis boss that always like to charge in close and spam, directly after I would hit him he would charge back in and every time I would keep the fire pit between us. The burn damage was crazy and proct fast with the resistance ignoring soak.
@Valientee16
@Valientee16 4 ай бұрын
I'm at CH5 and still using the Kang-Jin staff. I love my thunder damage build.
@Erkhes-f7c
@Erkhes-f7c Ай бұрын
Just found out. You can get the stormflash loong staff in chapter 3 ng+. Doesn't really change much of Syrobe's point but it can be obtained earlier.
@221BlueStreet
@221BlueStreet 4 ай бұрын
Regarding the staff that require you to be posioned, there is a soak that puts you in a poisoned state, using that could improve the benefits of that passive
@You_are_bananas
@You_are_bananas 4 ай бұрын
The fact that you didn’t spoil any bosses or late enemies was enough for my sub. Also very informative video.
@Kapper23
@Kapper23 4 ай бұрын
Was gonna go for the true stance until you said it has to get activated and goes away after 60 seconds. Insane to me to not just give it permanently after all that work to get it. Very sick video!!
@Arclor
@Arclor 4 ай бұрын
Did some spreadsheeting and simple trials on all of the staves you put in S-tier. Found that Fuban despite its impressive crit rate, it was the lowest damaging (dps) among them if you don't count the spike explosion (I couldn't get it to consistently hit, plus it's only on heavies). Fuban's passive can be eally nice though. Good against multiple enemies or big enemies like you said.
@ttydt
@ttydt 4 ай бұрын
What’s the best dps build for someone running spellbinder?
@Arclor
@Arclor 4 ай бұрын
@ttydt dark iron staff, but you need high defence, like 500+. By my NG+ run, I had 550.
@drillodoger6707
@drillodoger6707 4 ай бұрын
How would a 15 damage difference between fuban and jingubang, but such a huge difference in crit chance lead to jingubang having higher dps? Also fuban does quite a lot more damage than jingubang on heavy attacks from what I’ve seen since the spines can crit too.
@Arclor
@Arclor 4 ай бұрын
@drillodoger6707 You can actually estimate the "dps" by assuming an average amount of crits based on crit chance... so for example if you have a 20% crit rate, you assume 2 out of 10 attacks are crits. Formula for it is DMG * (1+(CR)*(CD-100)/100)) DMG is the amount you hit after your attack goes through all the nebulous multipliers and enemy defence. You have to test against any enemy to figure this number out. I used the damage I got from a non-crit using a 3-focus charged heavy on the same enemy each time. You have to take an average though since even the exact same strike in the exact same enemy has variable damage (+/- 5 %? Something like that). CR is your crit rate as a proportion (so 23% is 0.23), and CD is your crit damage (not as a proportion, just drop the % sign and take the whole #). I don't know the full damage formula this game uses, but CD is the last multiplier that applies after your base attack goes through all the other multipliers and enemy defence. Using this formula, all of the mythical staves are actually very close to each other in dps, with black iron pulling ahead significantly more than the rest of the pack when you have 500+ defence. Like you said though, Fuban has the spines plus the spines can crit. I didn't account for that because I couldn't get them to consistently land (many enemies including those your size are too small to get hit by the spines). Jingubang has the advantage of being able to store the 4th focus point, so outside of flawless gameplay, you will hit more 4-focus smashes with it than with fuban. Their base dps are so close though, that I'd go with whichever has a passive you like more. Jingubang and fuban are def my favorite for that.
@Arclor
@Arclor 4 ай бұрын
@drillodoger6707 plugging in 0 for dark iron, and 25 for fuban crit rates, if seems yes that it still outdamages fuban, even when you have a lot of crit damage (180%+). They're closer in dps at 0% natural crit rate though. Just wanna stress again that this is raw damage in a controlled setting. The spines from fuban, and set bonuses that benefit from you scoring crits could make fuban more effective overall. I don't think I have the time to make an accurate model for all of that lol
@hopelessdistribution6937
@hopelessdistribution6937 4 ай бұрын
Spoilers!: For those struggling with the Chapter 3 secret Boss: It is VERY easy, tbh. The hardest part is the Block Meter. 1. You Can use the Plantain Fan to deplete it ALL with a single use. 2. Azure Dust transformation also deals a massive chunk out of the Block. 3. The quick transformation spirit called "Top Takes Bottom, Bottom Takes Top" to deplete his Block Meter more and do decent damage. (Once it is upgraded, it works wonders on his health and Block.) 4. You can use Parry to block the hard telegraphed attacks they do while in the air. Using these I beat him really easily, it was a cake walk and first tried with this set up from a Video I saw. Hope it helps!
@Taint_Smasher
@Taint_Smasher 4 ай бұрын
I HIGHLY doubt you first tried Erlang. Come on now kid.
@jamesdsmith1217
@jamesdsmith1217 4 ай бұрын
@@Taint_Smasher read please.... First tried Elarng with that setup... and so did i... i watched the same video made the same build and it was a cake walk.
@stab300
@stab300 3 ай бұрын
If you want to get frisky with it, don't use the plantain fan in the first phase, time his block break, with a 4 point focus thingy when he's about to go the 2nd phase. If you break his block and trigger the 2nd phase attack. It SKIPS it, and you go straight into 2nd phase on top of doing crazy damage. And then you can easily trigger his 3rd phase disappearance with the wandering wight heavy, or ig top takes bottom smashes. Dodge the initial flurry, and then, immediately transform (azure dust) to soften him up a bit. Tank/dodge a combo, and then plantain fan him, summon clones, just empty the house and he dies. This is from NG testing, I'm sure it's even easier in NG+ because of the unified mind skill. I think you can actually skip the 3rd phase animation too with the fan but I never felt the need to. It's a bit more complicated. But you can damn near script the fight if you get it down.
@omgdin
@omgdin 2 ай бұрын
​@@jamesdsmith1217Video name?
@yaj7668
@yaj7668 6 күн бұрын
Easily push down on the D-pad for Wukong Stance.....that way, you can still switch to the other 3 stances. Hopefully Game Science makes it happen
@alexrush4140
@alexrush4140 4 ай бұрын
Awesome to see Syrobe getting some good view counts on a game that isn't Elden Ring. Also fun to watch him stream 👍
@growlingscarab7
@growlingscarab7 4 ай бұрын
Golden Long So far has been a favorite Weapon, outside of specific situations, i have pillar stance equipped all the time and it absolutely melts if you pluck of many right before you set off your charged attack.
@thedizaster115
@thedizaster115 4 ай бұрын
The staff of blazing karma is craftable before the boss of ch5 is defeated. As well, while the explosion is underwhelming and crknge, it has probably the fastest scorch build in the game. The scorcg happens at the tip of the staff, so you have to get close to the enemy to knock them into it.
@lewismorby4608
@lewismorby4608 4 ай бұрын
If you use the chitin staff with pillar stance with 3 focus points the healing is actually pretty decent
@Seanlin2002
@Seanlin2002 3 ай бұрын
Currently in Chapter 4 and just crafted Spikeshaft staff. it now (after an update or patch note I guess) also gives you +30 Max Mana aside from 80 base attack.
@mr_qaimaq
@mr_qaimaq 4 ай бұрын
12:35, finally, somebody said this. Quality content here, guys!!!
@ieatcalamari4595
@ieatcalamari4595 4 ай бұрын
For Yellow Loong I strongly recommend rock solid and pluck of many maxed out. Pluck of many, immobilize and dump damage, then since pluck is maxed duplicates can use some spells, including immobilize. Withering Wight for his big boy damage, and use blacksmith transformation. For the transformation block to build focus and go into his special mode. These things should dump his HP to about 1/4 health. You gotta be pretty diligent at that point. DO NOT use pluck of many with chubai thrust staff either, because you and your dupes will be pushing each other out the way and wasting damage opportunities.
@Issac1222productions
@Issac1222productions 4 ай бұрын
idk if this has been pointed out yet but the tri-point spear is not as hard to get as you say in the video, namely you DO NOT need to kill all 4 loongs to get to the secret boss, all you need to do is complete the secret side quests in each chapter
@israelbaffour3933
@israelbaffour3933 4 ай бұрын
All I’m saying is if u are fighting the great sage u would want to use the tri-point double edged spear cos he’s going be catching your heavy attacks with the staffs and tossing u away so u want to use the spear for the thrust with the other extra spears to actually deal damage without him catching it and wasting ur focus
@eldaralex3067
@eldaralex3067 4 ай бұрын
Since i watched tones of shielded enemies being smashed by you while sharing with us the most comprehensive video on this topic, I can't asbtain myself from not pointing out (in case someone wasn't aware of) that you can use rocksolid against a shield attack therefore shattering it along with the additional defencebar. Thought i was doing something wrong since i appareantly came across only on staffs i dint like that much. My state of contentment was: i guess just more damage is better than ... nothing. I sticked with the stone staff for the most part, then switched to kangjin staff for the aesthetics rather then the stats or bonuses :)) felt great to summon lighting down on the enemy i'm pounding XD just to switch to the spider for some more damage and from this one to the visionary because again for the aesthtic and seemingly shallow sake (i dont enjoy seeing spider legs moving crawling like at each end of my staff ;) I hardly cand bring myself finishing it because i dont want it to end. Such a great game. Thank god ng+ exists.
@jasonwhatley2479
@jasonwhatley2479 4 ай бұрын
For the staffs with healing effects the health gained on focus skill really boosts it imo, and the crits giving spell cooldown is better than ya think with some luck and maxing crit rate skills then adding a potion you can make for free easily.
@lanoche
@lanoche 4 ай бұрын
20:54, you can always cheese Yellow Loong with a Smash Heavy charge. Stay a distance away from him and charge. IF you go too far though, he starts doing ranged stuff. Took me like 2 tries to beat him after finding out the cheese and the range I can do.
@ttydt
@ttydt 4 ай бұрын
Same can be done w thrust stance with less risk since you don’t have to move, and it also counters any lunge attacks he does with 2-3 focus points
@ryanjurgens2535
@ryanjurgens2535 4 ай бұрын
I feel it's important to note thrust stance itself increases crit chance. So I feel like the thrust stance specific weapons could all be higher
@danielmendoza7141
@danielmendoza7141 4 ай бұрын
With the tri point spear, the passive sword attack is mainly for breaking shields. Even in ng++ going against erlang three or four hits of that passive takes away his shield
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq 4 ай бұрын
from what i can deduce. GS needs to have an update that actulaly lets up upgrade the weapons to have all the choices we want when it comes to damage and then upgrades the passives
@ds3pvpfun865
@ds3pvpfun865 4 ай бұрын
nice,, heard you talking about this .. been watching your one shot streams .. i managed to get 95 percent damage buff earlier.. used the armour with the 25 buff.. then the potion with 30 percent buff on last sip.. plus revive another 30 percent then the relic perk when you cast a spell another 10 percent.. helps a lot with my one shot attempts :)
@sunwukong1279
@sunwukong1279 4 ай бұрын
This list is so informative and amazing! Please make other tier lists!
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
armor tierlist soon!
@angeldu5t922
@angeldu5t922 4 ай бұрын
Cloud was great for a cloud step build was hitting over 3k per hit while clouds step was on a small cool down also I think certain enemies/bosses could have different defenses so that could alter your results if you just tested the black Smith
@adawg3032
@adawg3032 2 ай бұрын
Staff spin goes crazy when you got the storm flash long staff buff active
@The_Wanderer...
@The_Wanderer... 3 ай бұрын
I got the game 3 weeks ago and beat it with secret ending and all a week a half ago. Really fun game, gave me some real good challenges, there are bosses you have to be aggressive with, others you have to be patient really really good game, I'm playing the plus now. And for me the pillar stance is my favorite, I really don't find a use for the thrust stance and the smash stance will pretty much always be useful. Anyways, yellowloong was a pretty good fight, it took me like 5 hours to beat him, but a lot of that was from me going off to completely rebuild my stats 😂
@IceCold85
@IceCold85 4 ай бұрын
Exceptional details, very good explanations for player use. Great job on the video 👍🏿
@demon6937
@demon6937 4 ай бұрын
1:11 how tf did you get so much damage in thrust stance?
@CRgfully
@CRgfully 4 ай бұрын
Crit
@theunlverse5241
@theunlverse5241 2 ай бұрын
Actually you can get the dark iron staff as soon as you enter NG+ if you didnt spend ay materials on the bull king set as they use the same material.
@ipgebannt7635
@ipgebannt7635 4 ай бұрын
as a spell bind abuser i can say that the tri spear does alot of dps when u spawn that move from what ive felt
@savagecommentator8593
@savagecommentator8593 4 ай бұрын
Iron and Staff with the original monkey king set you get in chapter 6 add spellbinder, pops, and perks and start smacking monsters for 7 to 10 K damage
@user-kw7xk5hj4f
@user-kw7xk5hj4f 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Just started the game. The info will come in very handy ❤
@kd_killa256
@kd_killa256 4 ай бұрын
I'm loving the fuban staff with the kashka armor and 3 crit damage curious and 1 crit chance curiou. With the needle vessel and non able for my spirit for the extra crit. I walk around with 63% crit chance and 203% crit damage that mixed with spellbinder is so strong in NG+
@yapuastink5525
@yapuastink5525 4 ай бұрын
Chitin staff gives the heal based on focus you build from fighting, dodging etc. It doesn’t work if you just hold the charge button and hit them
@a.d.a.m1413
@a.d.a.m1413 4 ай бұрын
Visionary Centipede Staff is superior than Spider Celestial Staff if you have the correct build. I mean you can easily poison the enemy with Venomous Armguard and the healing is actually pretty good in early game when you still have a little max HP (if you already in NG++++ of course the healing unnoticeable). I recommend to get Visionary Centipede Staff in first play through, and you can get Spider Celestial Staff in NG+ to upgrade it to Adept Shooting Spine Staff. Visionary Centipede Staff is one of the best Mid Game first play through you can get.
@bardbar
@bardbar 4 ай бұрын
i wish the game let us choose any 1 of the passives from the same weapon branch to use, so that we could use earlier passives on later upgrades that have better stats.
@phrostix7727
@phrostix7727 4 ай бұрын
I think that you are underrating the Visionary Centipede Staff. You do not need to swap to a Spirit or Transformation, just combines it to with Venemous Armguard which, while not part of a set technically, it shares the set bonus with the Centipede set. This detail I believe should bump up the value of this staff,. That 10% crit chance is huge for the Armguards which proc on crit but only offer 3% crit themselves.
@phrostix7727
@phrostix7727 4 ай бұрын
Spikeshaft Staff works on Tactical Retreat not just Resolute Strike. This is particularly useful for thrust users because Whirling Thrust does not generate focus. This particular synergy I think should bump up the staff a bit, though the lack of crit rate does still hurt it since Whirling Thrust is best on crit builds. Additionally, this passive also syngergizes very well with Skyfall Strike which does more damage based on the number of focus points built up. Personally, I am only using Counterstrike and Tactical specifically for these counters; if not for the special parries I would just run pure heavy attack builds.
@Pro-Hunter
@Pro-Hunter 4 ай бұрын
This is some high quality content! Would love to see you make tier lists on stuff like armor sets, gourds, spirits, transformations, etc.
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
armor set tierlist next!
@JMC1992
@JMC1992 4 ай бұрын
I'm in chapter 5, first playthrough. While I've enjoyed the VARIETY in this game, the things that are underwhelming are: staves, armor, light attack combos, and the combat in general. The heavy attack and spells are what I've relied upon, along with a lot of re-spec with Sparks. If Game Science makes another action adventure game, they really need to change the combat and maybe make obtaining a new weapon more meaningful beyond how much CRIT chance it provides.
@KingJinzo2125
@KingJinzo2125 4 ай бұрын
I’m using the golden loong staff rn, it’s very strong where I’m at rn, very much so worth doing the quest for it, despite how hard it is to get it
@please-wake-up-now
@please-wake-up-now 4 ай бұрын
This is a super cool tier list! 🐵 It's interesting how some weapons feel way better when you get to know their combos. The golden loong staff was a total lifesaver for me in early game! 🏆 I kinda wish they added more variety though, like some staffs that could change elements or something. Wouldn't that just spice up the gameplay? 🤔✨ Keep it up, Syrobe! 🙌
@animefreak780
@animefreak780 4 ай бұрын
Love the staff and spear designs but felt overall they were limited in quantity. Now by that I mean after seeing what we can get it made my expectations shoot up thinking "Yo what if we get Zhu Bajie's rake or Wanjing's Spade" Im happy with what we have and honestly excited for the game's future either in DLC expansions or a planned sequel. Either way, go play Black Myth: Wukong for the PS5 and PC
@vizualwarrior129
@vizualwarrior129 4 ай бұрын
U should do a vid about armor!! Specifically like late game armor sets for ppl in NG+ and above. There’s already plenty of videos of ppl grading all the armor sets in normal base game, but for NG+ and above (when you can upgrade mostly everything to mythical) I haven’t seen any videos of. On top of that, I notice you almost always wearing that yakusha armor all the time. Would you say that’s some of the best armor in the game? (Assuming everything has been upgraded to mythical) I’m assuming simply bcuz of the constant damage buff u get and not caring about the damage you take bcuz ur good at souls games etc.
@syrobe
@syrobe 4 ай бұрын
ARMOR NEXT!
@YureiOni
@YureiOni 4 ай бұрын
Thrust stance is the most fun to use imo. I like integrating all 3 but thrust is so much fun haha.
@goodtimeskb4343
@goodtimeskb4343 4 ай бұрын
I choose to make the Dark Iron staff instead of the Bull King armor and haven't regretted it. It' pairs so well with the Pilgrim set and that first blow with double damage melts enemies.
@wolfmoon222
@wolfmoon222 4 ай бұрын
you can equip the bull king - get the passive boost than swap for pilgrims or rakshasa and get those passives on top
@titantryinc-cd3dz
@titantryinc-cd3dz 4 ай бұрын
With the Mythic pilgram the stormflash is perfect ... but i get it but with that armor set any boss that can be immobilized is dead in 2 or 3 charged cloned synced heavys .. i believe that would be the phrase. Great breakdown. Thank you.
@jamespalmer8632
@jamespalmer8632 Ай бұрын
The spikeshaft staff also works on the thrust stance see through too if that changes anything for you
@marshmellowknightvlogs2916
@marshmellowknightvlogs2916 4 ай бұрын
The Visionary centipede staff that heals you when the enemy is poisoned pairs so well with Elder armorworm you can literally keep Boss in poisoned 24 seven so you get a fourth of your health back Every time you do three point heavy attack thanks to the added health of the stance tree perk. If you combine the centipede set with the alternative gaunlets and self poison You got a massive boost to attack and thanks for the elder you get a massive boost to quit chance. As for the tripoint spear you do the damage of the thrust plus the sorts so if you’re close enough to get the thrust and you do like 1000 damage plus the 10 or 15 additional hits of the swords And those swords will go out even if you’re not down. Plus with that thrust it’s very easy to spam so you can do it back to back to back for a lot of stacking damage
@longminh2759
@longminh2759 4 ай бұрын
at 24:35, how did you immobilize multiple enemies at the same time? thanks
@crimson1199
@crimson1199 4 ай бұрын
So for me at ng +4 i use mainly the fuban staff with the movement speed armor. Its honestly great cause alot of bosses let u cheese spam running 3 focus smashes and with this build it chunks and provide enough healing to trade. Normal enemies also get 1 shot alot of time. I break out the jingubang only for bosses that i struggle with which is only erlang and broken shell at this point. So in essence i found that for boss killing jingubang is better than fuban for boss killing but exploring fuban kills thing alot faster and easier. I can see the trident being good cause i can see it doing alot of damage in a more sustained way but i mainly only used the smash stance the entire game focusing mainly on getting high focus for big damage.
@qwert4461
@qwert4461 2 ай бұрын
Currently on my 3rd playthrough omw to wukong stance, rushing every boss down so far since ng+ and getting sweet revenge hehe
@Avis-jb3tg
@Avis-jb3tg 4 ай бұрын
I think the Point of pillar stance was always Defense/support. The only Tree with a drinking skill and escaping damage as a focus besides the damaging skills.
@moonrock115
@moonrock115 4 ай бұрын
For me i've just completed NG+2 and beat the snot out of Erlang Shen on my first go using the Bull Kings full set, the Dark Iron Staff, and for acessories i use the Buddha's mask for +9% crit damage, Amber Beads for increased focus charge rate, Cats Eye Beads for +3% crit chance, and lastly the Golden Spikeplate for an extra +30 defense and slight reflect damage. For spirit transformation i used to use Tigers Acolyte for the +10% crit damage bonus, but i've started using Top Takes Bottom/Bottom Takes Top spirit, for a +45 additional defence boost at only a -10 loss in attack power. Relic is usually the Weavers Needle for extra crit chance/damage. Total Defence is 690+ , critical chance is 9% without the needle, and 11% with the needle, while Critical Damage is 185% without the needle and 195% with the needle. If i use Spirit Sealing the crit chance skyrockets upto 28%. Base damage for Dark Iron Staff is 235, and thats without adding in the extra buff from using the Spirit Seal spell. I can probably tweak the build to be better, but i have to say the Tenacity and extra defence you get from being hurt while wearing the Bull King set is awesome. For my gourd i've the Supreme Gourd, using the Loong drink (heals 30% max health, but massively increases damage of next attack) with the following soaks: Bee Mountain Soak (chance not to consume a gourd use), Iron Pellet (cant be interrupted with attacks while drinking, and gain moderate damage reduction), Tiger Relic (moderately increases critical chance for a short duration) and Purple Veined Peach Pit (massively increases health recovery using the gourd when at critical health).
@PlatinumKrown
@PlatinumKrown 4 ай бұрын
Man I'm glad I grinded out the spear in ch 3, it's pretty useful for mid game.
@codeiha7487
@codeiha7487 4 ай бұрын
therefore, golden loong staff is still good for mid-game. I felt somewhat comforted when I just "interacted" with yellow loong for about 5 hours
@dyontaydial8727
@dyontaydial8727 3 ай бұрын
Just unlocked the Golden Loong staff and personally love the design and the Thunder Dragon attack. It was worth the grind 🐲⚡️⚡️⚡️!
@Mugendary
@Mugendary 4 ай бұрын
Hey Syrobe, can we get an all Armour set tier list in the future?
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