System 55 - Technical Details, Important Details, Compatibility with Eurorack

Here's the complete System 55 playlist:
• Behringer System 55 Eu...

[@behringer]

We hope this answers a couple of questions. TLDR would be: - all modules except ADSR and Trigger Delay are 100% compatible to Eurorack - if something looks unusual, it's often just the label - if you push the modules they produce all kinds of nice harmonics Let us know if you have more questions!

[@fjfrancois]

BEHRINGER thank you

[@carlospinho3303]

Release Date ???

[@bowserb61]

Really happy to see that you stuck with the +12v -6v power. I know that it isn’t practical or possible for you to use inductors in the FFB like the original 914. What did you use to simulate that circuitry for these reproductions?

[@VictorSteiner]

Was that slip of tongue? "The sequencer outputs V-Trigger and therefore you couldn't (sic!) connect it to the Neutron or any other 3rd party eurorack module" He wanted to say that they ARE compatible, didn't he?

[@randomaztec2208]

@@VictorSteiner I'm sue he said you could, but I may have miss heard

[@Felix_oderso]

Götz is such an impressive Speaker. He conveys the information very good.

[@behringer]

Thanks Felix! 😊

[@simplestickman5513]

ja ja

[@iancain6647]

I agree!

[@supercompooper]

very well 🤪

[@robertdoom8331]

Mr. Behringer, you are truly the "Walt Disney" visionary of the Synthesizer industry. Thank you for resurrecting the music making technology of the greatest years of the 20th Century!

[@Steve_643]

Behringer is doing what every synth user has dreamed about making quality reproduction of the greatest synths ever made!!!!

[@guysmiley7289]

ruining small businesses ?

[@mattekudasai8249]

@@guysmiley7289 how? moog doesn't make these anymore

[@guysmiley7289]

@@mattekudasai8249 No but Eurorack is mostly small businesses and the Korg is still in production.

[@mattekudasai8249]

@@guysmiley7289 behringer isn't making korg synths

[@guysmiley7289]

@@mattekudasai8249 www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0DN7 www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/ms_20fs/

[@TheMarkHendy]

I do circuit design and build a lot of others' designs of modern DIY Eurorack and 5U gear, but have no great knowledge of the System 15/35/55 ... So this has been such an informative video and taught me a load of new stuff about these older circuits and how Behringer have built their modules, thank you! I am really appreciating these modules from an entirely new perspective now and even more convinced to collect a systems worth of them.

[@RiczWest]

Magic! Brilliant explanation which shows the "snobs" who say "ordinary people" won't be able to understand this will be wrong. It's like all modular - you have to put in some work to get a good sound - and what a sound! Currently saving for an Akai MPC One, but this or the System 100 are next on my list to add some "modular magic". PS I've already got a Neutron and love it - keep the good stuff coming Behringer :)

[@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171]

I heard somewhere that Dr. Bob Moog had a surplus of doorbell switches, or had noticed an easy access to the doorbell ringers. Since a doorbell works by way of a ‘short to ground event’, this was where the origin of ‘S-trigger’ was derived; doorbells!! I wouldn’t doubt the authenticity of such a claim, as I can recall reading that an early recording studio in Jamaica had made use of many house wiring components, such as light switches, on their mixer panels that they were cobbling together. GREAT WORK AS ALWAYS. THANKS FOR SHARING, I can’t wait!!

[@ethanbaum6776]

Excellent work on this guys, Excellent! The beast is finally going to be available to us common folks!

[@TH3_FURY]

Very well explained video... Even in confinement we're learning stuff about synthz and it's cool... Thank you all ;)

[@christofferainek]

THIS is the video I’be waiting for. Love the nerd talk 🖖🤓

[@freeform144]

Ditto! 🤓

[@ogasi1798]

it looks really really lovely, looking forward to getting this

[@georgeray3492]

Waiting on the sequencer and the 961. The 961 will be the interface to my old keys that use S-Trig. The audio to V-Trig will be interesting to play with as well. Great explanation!

[@claudiostano]

it's cool you used no ICs there ! really nice !! And it's super cool you cut to -6V to clipping just like on original modules, keeping Eurorack compatibility

[@teilzeitrwachsn]

Schön dich zu sehen und zub hören Götz, bin noch Fan aus Cubeaudio-Zeiten! Habt damals solchen Hampelmännern wie mir viel geholfen mit euern Beiträgen... :-) Coole Demo und coole Modules. Jetzt wird es wohl langsam mal richtig Zeit für mich mit modular loszulegen...

[@PatchMonger]

Great video, thanks for clarifying the outputs of the sequencer. I really want one to connect to my small 5u system and was wondering if I needed the s-trigger to v-trigger adaptor. Great news it will connect directly!!! Cannot wait for one!!!

[@christianthompson1473]

@behringer fantastic news! Mega support for everything you are doing. 👍

[@nickolasyounker]

Götz, Happy to see youre doing well. I would be happy to see an expanded talk about the oscillator driver - there has been a lot of discussion about this and it would be helpful to understand more about it -granted it can controll 12 oscillators .. but how and why? Any response to this would be very helpful so as new buyers dont become confused.

[@Sashabooboo]

It has been almost two years since this came out. I live in Southern California. I've never seen a System 55. The release date is "the future". I think I'm going to buy the components and put it together. The videos for the System 55 serve, at this point, as inspiration for buying the items individually. After two years and no product I wonder if this has been dropped from development, if legal issues came up and suspended further activity, if it started off as a good idea but ended up being postponed when other projects came up. I'm relatively new to modular and looked at the System 55 as an all-in-one stop, but in the time it has taken thus far I've researched other manufacturers with items available on the market.

[@robertenglish9838]

They're in stores (online) and on Amazon. Ordered mine and it was on my doorstep in 4 days.

[@illnessofjeez]

cannot wait to add to my arsenal. so glad you all are doing what you are doing with the attack of the clones :p

[@FatSynthDude]

Ludicrously accurate to the original? Yes, please!

[@lacedj51]

what do you mean by "They don't get what the power supply does in a moog modular..."

[@FatSynthDude]

@@lacedj51 he thinks that Behringer don't understand electricity.

[@walkeracid]

That sequencer....I´m in love :-)

[@bobborries]

Thank you so much for your video, is it possible to see patch examples of the V-trig to S-trig interface module? Does it only have 2 V-trig-to-S-trig converters? or is it 12?

[@graxjpg]

I can’t wait to trick out my model d with that sequencer!

[@freeform144]

Nice. Love this technical stuff. 🤓🧐😎

[@Lunaula]

Looks like I know what I'm getting next for my eurorack system, although with the system 55 and the system 100 modules coming around the corner will we perhaps get some modules that will give the west coast some love in the near future? Like some modules that start with a *B* and ends with an *A*

[@davidstewart4780]

So, is there an optimal warm-up time, do these drift like the oldies? Can the sequencer be quantized or midi programmed when being tuned? How large a range between notes (in octaves) if opened up all the way? Will it perform more than two notes at a time?

[@testohtoby]

Let's build a System 55 for a 1/55th of the price 😍

[@mister2628]

Made in China...

[@EversonBernardes]

@@mister2628 like pretty much everything else, nowadays.

[@mister2628]

@@EversonBernardes Korg stuff is made in Japan and Vietnam.

[@markiplierSINGSbadly]

@@mister2628 not surprising as Korg is japanese...

[@NathanChisholm041]

@@mister2628 Anyone supporting China after the lies off the communist government about Covid 19 is mad! Boycott China

[@pcfxr4u]

Hi Gotz, I just came across this, and am curious what Bob's original reason was to use asymmetrical power. Do you know? Thanks, I was a Moog tech as far back as the 1970's but never thought to ask. Larry

[@Raggo12345]

What a brilliant presentation! Behringer really drives/runs/pushes the synthworld nowadays! Behringer for President! :)

[@titovalasques]

Awesome!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@Kupka2408]

Awesome!!! The only thing I am waiting for now is a Music Easel clone. That would be the absolute holy grail for me!

[@LunaticDandy]

Museum piece of art in you'r room. I say YES !

[@DJChuko1100]

I ordered the 961 interface and the ADSR I am wondering how i would patch the ADSR. I have a Model d I'm patching into as well as a minibrute 2s

[@malnourishedthoughts6527]

Great stuff... time to reconsider my goals regarding music production. Endless experimentation = no tracks made, musical synths = easier to work with.

[@AnalogAudio1]

modular synths can be also very musical, it depends on your skills ;-)

[@shottskies]

I would to have to agree with you to an extent. It seems often the people with lots of modular of really complicated equipment like to show off the sounds they can make but few seem to making listenable music. Maybe it will come in time...

[@malnourishedthoughts6527]

I think that its difficult to produce tunes that are easily understood by others with modular synths. Some people don't find bleeps musical, while others do have the ability to appreciate sounds and melodies. I appreciate bleeps! But it's more of a personal experience when making music with these types of synths. In some ways, the musicmaker gets all the joy, and the audience...they have to be a specific audience lets say. Now that this technology is available to everyone, I may incorporate some modular into my music... with an actual predetermined goal beforehand, not just getting every module available just because. And I'm not just buying modules just to see how they sounds on my headphones! That's the worst...

[@malnourishedthoughts6527]

@@AnalogAudio1 I think mostly it depends on the modules you have. If one buys one module, they were probably better off buying a synth of equal or lesser value. It's easier to get more mileage out of a regular synth than modular when it comes to composing an actual track. That's my main bit.

[@oliverbrunncarstens4215]

Thank you!

[@johnteves2231]

I am having an issue using a Behringer System 100 297 portamento module with System 55 oscillators. I am using a 61 key MIDI controller and the 2 lower octaves only play one pitch. Any suggestions?

[@o.b.v.i.u.s]

Behringer!!!! You're killing me, _killing_ me!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@mikedesert7022]

Anyone know if the 921a Oscillator Driver can be used with the 921 for modulation? Thats what I bought cause the 921b isn't available and the 921a outputs say "To 921b"...planning to get one or two 921bs eventually, but in the meantime, wondering if there's any use for it

[@thelazarusconcordance]

Are you planning to release a module that converts MIDI to CV along with the system 55/100? Right now I’m not seeing any way to interface with them via MIDI

[@DavidJKellett]

Will the s-trigger features work with the K2 (or my original MS20 SQ10)?

[@andi6971]

And when we can order / buy the Eurorack Go?

[@Zinfidel1]

Nicely done! Can't wait until the System 55 & 100 are out there. Can we get some info on the power supply? i.e. Amps?

[@matiasvikingr6254]

Sorry Imma beginner would it be compatible to use the a911 as a delay effect for the poly D?

[@berzerkrobot]

I love this content! When will the CP1A's be shipping? I need one to live

[@ALTARBEATZ]

Good Job!!

[@svenblau]

Dear Götz, when will you present the 960 Sequencer? And when will it be available at which price? Thanks for your reply.

[@the_smart_work_project1443]

Moog for the masses!

[@lordundhimself1310]

If you wanted to have two 921 oscillator modules, would they work without the oscillator driver?

[@thepinkplant]

What’s the best way to incorporate portmanteau or glide in a setup playing with a keyboard?

[@ariksalomon8400]

Question about Sequencer 960/962 triggering a Behringer Modular 55 (with S-Trigger) and an Eurorack Keyboard (e.g. Matriarch) is transposing the sequence. But when I connect The Pitch of the Eurorack Keyboard (over CP3A-0 Input 2, Input 1 = Sequencer CV-Out) than the pitch goes up (more than 1 oct.). Why is this and how can I solve it? Thanks for answere.

[@nxlrabyss]

thumbs up on the discrete circuitry, that's something not expected in a good way

[@InFamousProductions]

it may be time for me to go modular.... will you guys sell "systems"? as in specific or all the modules so a semi newbie to modulars can not have to worry about not getting the correct stuff?? Pleeeaaaaassseeee?!?!!?

[@PietroTaucher]

May I have a list of the modules you used for the system?

[@imno1157]

Do you now or someday have the availability or To include a joystick? That can also be used for Quadraphonic panning..

[@andyq9669]

Well explained. I am a little less ignorant today.

[@michaelt_tamtam]

Looks great and I'm sure it sounds great too. As an owner and fan of the Neutron, I would love to see some interesting original modules from Behringer, still at an affordable price. Or something in the spirit of Neutron, a lot of features for low price

[@iqi616]

A Neutron filter module would be handy.

[@darylvandyke7399]

That Neutron BBD/Overdrive section would make a pretty decent module.

[@jacksonueland]

Would anyone know if using modules that output up to 10v will be safe to use with the behringer modules that max input levels are 5v?

[@recardopersaud4681]

hey i have a behringer ep2500 can it push 2 18" 1500 watts speakers??

[@Justbase]

good job.

[@MrAnselm77]

You guys are crushing it!!!!!!!!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👊🏿🇨🇦🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 my requests.....make an mpc 2000 3000 or 60 make a scaled down WING that’s affordable a DAW in a box turn on the switch and go like those old 16/24 track recorders with a complete and fully capable DAW ..... since you you people are into making fantasies come true 🤔😏😉🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😷😷😷😷😷🙏🏿

[@Angry_Boomer]

I don't see the CP1A power module. Where might that be located??

[@payt01]

Nice. Will there be a range of prebuilt modular synths available?

[@nesslakefolk6345]

Hey Behringer. Are you planning on releasing monster cases to join all those modules in? Ala Addac 901M

[@undoubt1540]

Are you going to sell it as an all in one or just individual components?

[@DJANTONIVS]

I'm gonna cry. I want one now.

[@NumbRecordsUK]

Are you going to sell this system and the system 100 as complete systems? I don't have any eurorack but would love to just buy both of these as complete systems. If you are going to do this. is there a timeline for release?

[@moosemuseum1853]

Can S-trig be driven from a vintage moog, e.g. - 1979 micromoog?

[@dedeck2816]

Will it possible to buy only the cheeks to bring two Eurorack GO together?

[@jakejenkins2245]

Hey Uli, Götz, and co.! Is there a plan to release a preconfigured System 55 that includes all of the modules pre-installed into a Eurorack Go chassis?

[@ryanmelvey8764]

how can i get instrument level signals (wurlitzer / rhodes) flowing thru these modules?

[@RayMcNamaraMusic]

There's a lot of eurorack modules that'll do that. I built the AI Synthesis AI-106 Stompbox Adapter. Circuit works great, but I had to figure out a way to more securely attach the pcb as it fell off in my case a couple times.

[@quantika72]

Is this coming out before or after the next pandemic?

[@fishoutofwater7743]

Is there an option to control it with a keyboard?

[@ReginatorNet]

I will get a full System 55 setup and play the F-ing hell out of it! :D

[@InFamousProductions]

word. I've dreamt of it my whole life

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

How much would a complete system 55 run?

[@ooktar]

Is there an envelope module without the S trigs? I get wanting to be historically accurate but needing to buy an extra module just to use an ADSR is pretty lame. I really doubt it would have changed the character of the envelope to add a V trig output. You can be historically accurate but still innovate at the same time.

[@georgeray3492]

They do have a different series envelope that works with standard gates- the 140 Dual Envelope. Also, the circuit to turn V-Trig to S-Trig is passive and really simple. There is an excellent YT video on building it. Search V-Trig and it will come up. Early Moog keys used S-Trig- Mini all the way through the Source. I've built the adapters to make those types of units work with Gate outs on other equipment.

[@MrStanley85]

Maybe go for the system 100 ADSR it should work standalone to an even lower price i guess :)

[@nutritionalyeast7978]

I agree. not many keyboards have s trig outputs these days, and thats the "historically accurate" way of playing, so is it really sacrificing historical accuracy to just put a trigger inverter in front of the envelopes and gate delays instead of using a giant converter module?

[@ezion67]

Just mix and match, Doepfer or or something else would work fine.

[@matthewdonoghue321]

I have been looking at modular synth for a while now and the system 55 is the one I have been waiting for... I am a bit of an analog purist at heart and I love the Moog tones so this is a win win. A few days ago I looked at prices and I was surprised that some of them weren't much cheaper (in some cases more expensive) than Doepfer, but now that I see the lack of IC's I understand why and I believe Behringer has made the right choice, they have made the choice that will make me buy this series instead of anything else on the market. However the technical details revealed in this video do open a couple of cans of worms... Firstly I am planning to add in a second oscillator from another manufacturer to allow for oscillator sync, presumable if I do this I wont need the Oscillator controller? Or, will I need the controller as well? Secondly, I was planning on using an old school 1v/oct keyboard and use it to input gate CV signals to the ADSR, I am really unsure in this situation if I would still need the interface module?, and if yes... why? If Behringer really want to impress me they should do another version of the Model D... without USB, without MIDI and without the digital reference freq. In other words... all analog. Do it for the die hard old school analog fans... it would cost less to make and they could see it for the same price... another win win.

[@matthewdonoghue321]

sorry I meant sell it for the same price

[@BassFunMusic]

😉interesting

[@simaojoseph]

Will there be a new, more authentic, logo in the future?

[@mikelarson1631]

'all modules except ADSR and Trigger Delay are 100% compatible to Eurorack' - does that mean they cannot be installed in eurorack cases, or that they'll only work with other System 55 modules? Thanks!

[@privateregmusic]

He’s just saying the s trigger is unique to the system 55, apart from that it will all work :)

[@matiasmoulin2126]

I've been digging into that topic recently because I wanted to build a converter by myself (I failed due to insufficient info in the internet): an S-Trigger is basically an inverted V-Trigger signal. Eurorack and most synths have V-Trigger. Systems that work with S-Trigger just won't interact with the V-Trigger.

[@Bulmin1]

A Sonovox would be interesting being reproduced/remade.

[@hiddentechno8266]

So what's the estimated cost of a "full" system?

[@perge_music]

waiting for the 960 to be available, will buy a full system then

[@xirtus]

is it polyphonic and how many voices?

[@filenewtv]

Will you guys be selling the entire system in a bundle by chance?

[@peteroloffransson1370]

You should also bring the keyboard and the old black tolex cases back into the light too , if you want to make it historically correct and complete. A lot about the old Moog Modulars was about using a keyboard, unlike the Buchla school.

[@James-ip1tc]

Do you have the size specs?

[@matiasmoulin2126]

When will they be shipped?

[@NexxuSix]

Awesome! Behringer needs to add a keyboard controller with joysticks to make it all complete =]

[@Tiger.Arcade]

When will this be available?

[@nutritionalyeast7978]

Moog wouldn't have designed the circuits to accept possibly -12v on the inputs, because they only used -6v, but Eurorack modules can output -12v. So there are three possibilites: 1. Moog for some reason designed his circuits with a very wide input tolerance (not unlikely) 2. Behringer's engineers redesigned it, protecting against -12v, sacrificing 'historical accuracy' or 3. Behringer are gonna let a lot of eurorack users damage their behringer modules by not warning them

[@nutritionalyeast7978]

@Dissonant Timbres ahh

[@dudemandudebro938]

I love it. I do actually want ALL OF THEM 😆 You know a behringer DFAM would be cool.. But I imagine one is already in the works by now. Keep it up Behringer.

[@SlowCarToChina]

WHEN????

[@IIKaDicEU]

Will I be able to buy just a "System 55" - this whole setup - or will I need to go module by module?

[@amanii3000]

When will this be out for purchase and whats the price points for all the modules

[@behringer]

Hey Max, the first batch of modules can be ordered by the music stores from our factory. Since the music shop ultimately decides if, when, how much they order, and also the final price, we never can give a definitive date or price. But check your favourite vendor and you should see availability and prices!

[@CaalamusTube]

Guitar Center in the US already has them posted on their website...

[@sanzliot]

Are you selling a “complete” prebuilt system 55?

[@jacobbrown1690]

just announced yesterday

[@stephenstrang590]

Did I miss something, did behringer make some deal with the devil?

[@rhill109]

Quick question: will these be built in Asheville NC?

[@darylvandyke7399]

No - they won't be built in NC from foreign-sourced components and boards.

[@dunetwo2942]

Can i use step sequencer module, to control K-2?

[@TheKitaroHouse]

The K2 uses Hz/V (like the original MS 20), the sequencer will be Volt/Oct which is the standard for Eurorack modules. You could try to use the External Control Input of the K2, the direct connection will give you some problems.

[@mattayers3794]

The Harvestman(aka Industrial Music Electronics) English Tear module converts hz/v to v/Oct to integrate my MS-20 mini into my Eurorack. Disting Mk4 module also has a converter algorithm.

[@iampuesa]

When are you going to clone the Neutron?

[@chitlun]

🤣

[@travislee9662]

Yeah for even cheaper!🤪

[@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171]

It’ll be an interface module, they’re calling it ‘Neutron Follower’.

[@RayMcNamaraMusic]

@@kellymerrill5294 That would absolutely make my day.

[@MadelnMachines]

I wish they'd clone it with different graphics

[@amazeus1980]

Haters go nuts. :D Good job Uli...You left Moog behind!