T.I.: We're Not Being Fair In The Way We Critique Mumble Rap

[@SlickFlair1]

T.I was really dropping Jewels huh I have NEVER heard the brother Lord Jamar that quiet for that long EVER. That was a T.I takeover

[@Incredible_Geez]

@@funkythangzprod. Exactly....plus he know T.I going through alot....so lets talk hiphop.

[@Magic1970something]

Hey it is what it is dude TiP is a great interview and pretty much gets his stuff off in any room he's in ....great interview...

[@appetite4chic878]

Right lol I didn’t know Lord Jamar could listen with yelling his opinion

[@brandonsimpson1617]

I respect Lord Jamar for being the first to fully acknowledge the lack of respect New Yorkers had for other regions. If there was anytime Lord Jamar should’ve done more listening than talking, this was it. I agree with Ti; all we want is a honest conversation on the subject!

[@NewYorksMostWanted]

That Bone-Thugs and ODB example was great. But I still wouldn't fully agree for this reason: Bone-Thugs and ODB all had very *unique* and *distinct* sounds... but you can hardly tell these mumble rappers apart from one another. When Snoop was mocking them he wasn't mocking how you can't understand what they're saying, he was mocking how identical their flows are to one another.

[@suave_d]

I feel you, my man. But ODB was a cherry-picked example. What T.I. failed to realize is that for every ODB, there was another MC whose rhyme style and delivery was more polished to cancel him out. It's not like every rapper in New York was suddenly trying to sound like ODB. ODB had his own unique style that set him apart from everyone else -- he did not encompass the entire New York/Up North rap sound. New York was a big melting pot of different styles, and even artists from the same borough and area had distinctly different sounds. Modern mumble rappers all tend to sound the same, and I can't even tell the difference if you put a gun to my head. It's arguably a movement. If it was just one guy who mumble rapped (although, I would still hate it), I can tolerate it, but when you have practically an entire generation of rappers who sound the same, THAT'S when it becomes a problem.

[@NewYorksMostWanted]

@@suave_d You explained it very well by saying even rappers from the same boroughs had their own sound. Look at the Juice Crew: Shan, Shante, Biz, Kane, G Rap, ect. All had the same person producing for their earlier albums, some of them grew up right by each other, and yet they all had their own completely unique persona, lyrics, and flow. With that in mind it's hard to make excuses for the mumble rap/pill popping new gen.

[@GB81369]

The new dudes trying to follow the leader that’s why the music sounds like that

[@NYKnicks33]

Most Black people have roots in the south. I was born in Brooklyn but my roots come from South Carolina. Peace to the south!

[@drdread9896]

All black people unless your peoples are from the islands or Latin America

[@NewYorksMostWanted]

The Great Migration would explain that. Most black families from the south moved up north for better opportunities. South Carolina families migrated to New York, Mississippi went to Chicago.

[@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500]

@@NewYorksMostWanted facts

[@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500]

Word my momma side of the family is from North Carolina and she from the Bronx

[@knggullah8079]

@@NewYorksMostWanted Texas & Louisiana went to the westcoast.

[@solodolo304]

One thing I digg about T.I. is that he doesn't cheat the rap game and respects who came before him. We forget it's multiple lanes and levels to this music.

[@forporter1]

Well, remember the Hip Hop America, when he and Nelly was making excuses for that nonsense.

[@TheGrandNeagus]

Excellent conversation. This is how growth happens. I'm so proud of my people for being able to look past the forest and focus on the sun. Because no matter what WE are the best part. We need more conversations like this in all aspects of our life.

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

The New York narrative that southerners are slower than people up north has never made any sense and that's because most black intellectuals are from the South, most Historically Black Colleges and Universities are in the South and most American music was created in the South including Rap if we're being technical. The stereotype of the slow southerner applies to southern whites only(hillbillies and hicks), many black New Yorkers are unaware of that and that's because many black New Yorkers are from foreign backgrounds and they don't know what they're talking about.

[@carlos198365]

TIP is a dude we need to support instead of tearing him down like Bill Cosby. One of the few relivent rappers that stay on the front line for Black people all the time..

[@kinglucini]

That was a great comparison T.I. you did that

[@dn30001]

The ODB comparison wasn't exact tho. NOBODY was trying to be another ODB in the east or ANYWHERE. Mumble rap was/is a movement.

[@Magic1970something]

@@dn30001 tru dat but in general his point was taken ....but you right Nobody even thought about trying to be ODB he was just a exquisite....an Original !!

[@dewaynejunior8364]

T.I. was wrong because the difference in his comparison is that he picking selective individualism. In today times collective aspect has more affect to the masses whereas many artists are do it more today.

[@dn30001]

@@dewaynejunior8364 i feel that

[@l.i.harden2126]

BOTTOM LINE.. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PROGRESS IN WHAT WE PRODUCE IN THE FORM OF MUSIC TO INSPIRE NOT ONLY OUR PEOPLE BUT THE WORLD... TIP'S ATTEMPT WAS NOTED BUT HIS DELIVERY WAS FLAWED... AND THIS IS WHY MUSICIANS ARE [NOT] TO SPEAK ON SUBJECT MATTER THAT SUPERCEDES THEIR INITIAL LEVEL OF AMBITION...

[@lewjones3]

T.I. has a good point, but the difference between James Brown, Bone and ODB, is that they had real lyrics even tho it was hard to understand, and they wasn't cookie cutter songs over the same ass beat over and over

[@muddbludd5523]

I been saying mumble music been around since plantation days

[@billo5065]

Exactly bro, also the difference is now is that it's too much of it

[@therealmccoy2004]

What are real lyrics?? James brown, bone never used big dictionary words when rapping sooooo...how can u say wats real lyrics..

[@lewjones3]

@@therealmccoy2004 you doubt need big words to have real lyrics or lyricism. They James Brown was more basic, but Bone would be putting their words together good if u just slow down what they're saying.. they wasn't Jus shouting about using percocet over and over through autotune

[@therealmccoy2004]

@@lewjones3 the majority are not using percocet over and over. That's like 1 artist and 1 song.. 21 savage, lil uzi, young thug, etc don't mumble wen they rap. Yall are parroting nonsense and false info. I'm a old school cat but I think the old generation are being a bit hypocritical to an extent. Go type in lil uzi vert. Their is no mumble to his rap

[@shimmerveli9535]

Crunk was around for a long time, it was in Memphis way before lil jon and still is. I think crunk went out of style in atlanta cause no one dances in the clubs no more. The couches took over the dance floors.

[@t.wynderogriffin798]

Crunk left when Lil Jon had label issues....they pumped his breaks and he could not put out music....the movement began in memphis and ended in atl...remember he had just hooked up with crazy bone and ice cube, it would have been much bigger if his label was not tripping.

[@derrienscott23]

Those kids still dance in the clubs...18+

[@loso2fresh]

If you did something that you didn't feel good about.... that's selling your soul

[@t.wynderogriffin798]

You are using u tube which is made by white folks, do you feel good about that? Exactly, lighten up, you are in the wilderness of North America, it will never be perfect.

[@capoislamort100]

@@t.wynderogriffin798 so what you saying is; since we’re living under the auspices of white supremacy, it’s ok to concede and sell out to the enemy since there’s nothing we can do about it? We can’t concede more ground than we have already

[@t.wynderogriffin798]

@@capoislamort100 I’m saying be reasonable....to denounce this man because he made some concessions that he did not mention is harsh....if anything T.I. May be “the spook who sat by the door” he does phenomenal work in ATL

[@loso2fresh]

@@t.wynderogriffin798 WTF you talking about!! Lmao

[@setentaytres5303]

John Frank, STOP it. You gotta be white. Y’all ALWAYS try to pull racism out of thin air on the most mundane, non racist shit, yet you can never seem to acknowledge the real thing. Smh. And that’s truth. If you wanna call that racist, it is what it is.🤷‍♂️

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

There're all types of rappers in all the regions, the Hip-hop in any region is based on the culture of that region. Strip clubs and parties are bigger in the South than the Northeast, so quite naturally they're going to have more music that's beat and bounce focused than New York. In New York people ride subways more than the rest of the country so more of the music there has a heavier lyrical focus, it's more suited for headphones and riding on a subway. In contrast, the South and the rest of the country drives automobiles and consequently they enjoy music that's more beat and sound focused, music that's more suited to bump in your whip or in the club. It's cultural difference.

[@dexterharper3165]

@Bootney Lee Farnsworth you nailed it bruh.

[@bootneyleefarnsworth7307]

@@dexterharper3165 Thanks.

[@montagemont8]

One of my favorite PODCASTS!! A perfect BALANCE

[@jaxteller662]

Much Love & Respect to The Godcast for giving Vlad the Ultimate Fuck You by doing bigger numbers without his show and for doing a "EXCLUSIVE" Dope interview without mentioning the controversy surrounding T.i. 👑💯🤞🏿

[@marlonholt40]

Do you think it was agreed upon before the interview???? The interview had the feel of being told, "I'm gonna kick your ass after school. All through classes, its in your head no matter how much small talk plays out.

[@jaxteller662]

@@marlonholt40 idk or idc that's between him & the Godcast on what was said before the interview. That's Law💯🤞

[@marlonholt40]

You brought the controversy here..

[@jaxteller662]

@@marlonholt40 🤦🏿‍♂️do like your name 👌🏿😆😆😆😆

[@marlonholt40]

@@jaxteller662 Thank you. You'll also like what's behind it. That's why its out there with confidence.

[@liquidtechnique7201]

"You won't find similarities in how we talk but you'll find similarities in how we are"

[@rockyrambo5853]

.

[@parrylymon9361]

South got substance n lyricism...killer mike, playa fly, little brother, nick Grant K-rino, face, ball n g, Trae, z-ro, banner, scotty atl, cyhi, krit, DeLorean, don trip, starlito, rittz etc...put sum respect on it!!

[@l3tme545]

Sum of those rapper are mid west but with different southern sound. I don't consider z-ro south. Anything past La. Is midwest. Playa fly king pin skinny pimp are south . z-ro. Lil keke, trae truth are mid west . its different southern sound. Trill is different than Trap

[@parrylymon9361]

@@l3tme545 I was referring more to the substance n lyrical aspect of the South as a whole n the entire Midwest can be included in dat conversation as well. Basically there's a lot more nicer cats than ti, Luda, Ross etc cause many blame the south for "destroying hip hop" and I don't agree wit dat. There's emcees from all over dat can spit with the best emcees from nyc if not better

[@l3tme545]

@@parrylymon9361 true true. I do agree there. Well I think some in south don't like the starting rules. That's all . TI is lyrical why because he know the starting rules and respect then. I understand he running a business and he need a diverse market and brands , lanes etc etc. But He on sum b.s. too. The south need to follow the rules,[ btw I'm from the south ]. Lyricism matters. The message the rapper gives matters!! You can't be promoting mumble and death all day saying it got a message . Who can understand it.? I'm no killa. Ok, the guys on corner dont mumble . how am I suppose to support .. imjs

[@JM-ex2lj]

Big KRIK

[@747REDFELLA1]

You forgot about T-Rock

[@tc911b]

T.I.P. is dropping hella gems in this interview. Lord Jamar was actually quiet and agreeing with him lol.

[@suave_d]

I don't know if he was fully agreeing -- I think that he was listening to try to understand his point of view. I think Lord Jamar was trying to be diplomatic and not allowing this discussion to suddenly turn into a heated argument. He was essentially trying to be respectful to his guest. I doubt that he changed Lord Jamar's mind. But I will give him credit for listening with an open mind. I wouldn't necessarily equate his quietness for suddenly jumping on his side. Personally, I tried to listen and consider T.I.'s point of view -- but having said that, he did not cause me to reconsider my stance on mumble rap. I still think it's horrible, and it represents a low level of skill, and the content does not portray our people in a positive light. But if other people like it, that's their business.

[@setentaytres5303]

@suaved all true, BUT TI did close with a valid point, if we spent more time and energy pushing the shit we like, THAT shit would get more run

[@RTBPODCAST]

Appreciate the honesty 💯⚖️ it's more respected at the end of the day and plenty much love to up top da originators ✊🏿

[@lewjones3]

I always say that my Top 5 Favorite rappers, aren't necessarily who I think are the Top 5 Best rappers

[@timmyreg]

Ether or Take over?

[@joeljoseph9017]

@@timmyreg ether

[@kanji3882]

Ether

[@dangeroustelevision6515]

To be fair tho...mumble rap brings attention to our crumbling school system. The old school is reminded their English teachers were so much better than today.

[@johnwayne3566]

That literally makes no sense. Cuz first of all most these rappers weren’t in school, and secondly mumble rappers are on drugs. The drugs is the true reason if anything, not the school system

[@dangeroustelevision6515]

@@johnwayne3566 You must be a teacher....sorry. BUT IT'S TRUE. You can tell Rakim's English teacher was waaaaaaay better than Kodak Black's English teacher.

[@KardiFan2000]

@@dangeroustelevision6515 Exactly. English class was actually a place where you could hone your skills as a young MC...mumble rappers definitely aren't honing their craft at school with their limited vocabulary.

[@Chali_M]

@@johnwayne3566 Agreed. It's the drugs

[@blackmamba274]

That's total bullshit mumblerap is the direct affect of outside influences on the artform. Where as poets of the past may have been literary scholars, these poets are more expressionist. Expressing life in a drug fueled money idolizing society.

[@drlamonicajames]

🥰 Im absolutely loving this interview🥰

[@gregorydunston2952]

T.I broke that down perfectly. Plus, I think we have to understand that this new music today really isn’t meant for our generation too. My parents use to hate the rap I listened to because a lot of it was about drug dealing when in their time, rap was more about positivity.

[@mdotperre]

Guru said it ...it’s mostly the voice that lifts you

[@cheapcharlie3499]

There's no such thing as Mumble Rap the term is an oxymoron, if you're rapping you aren't mumbling. Some people can understand the lingo and others can't.

[@kevingrows6749]

Dude I'm from milwaukee which is considered a slower city particularly in the 80's but I can remember taking music and clothes down south to my cousins.

[@cenoriagolden1538]

Do you think milwaukee started trap

[@Jayarrin1]

TIP is my guy always dropping thought-provoking things. In addition to that, Whodini gets left off people's list quite often they were out during the Run DMC and LL Cool J era, and they were dope. However, they never get the props they deserve.

[@747REDFELLA1]

New York natives who rap in Hiphop called alot of the new age rappers -(from the south)mumble rappers because they can’t understand our accent...If you listen to rappers from the south like Honeykomb brazy and Lil baby they actually have bars and have their own unique style of spiting ..Now they may not be a complex lyricist like a killah priest but they have bars like your average street rapper up north in New York...

[@pacificheights5376]

LL said it in the 90s. "Melody is king"

[@codywankanobi2100]

T.I still to this day is studying the dictionary to find out what mamasay mamasah... means lol

[@LocsTheChef]

"Imma say one mo' time I'm not gon' stop"

[@glendagoodewright3438]

Soul Makosa

[@appetite4chic878]

@@LocsTheChef thanks for cracking. Mike was a legend and mumble singing 💀😂🔥

[@jvnbrk]

TI's put on artists with that sound we're talking about,of course he's going to defend it. I just label it all wack,auto tune,lazy bars or no bars at all seems to be the trend. I've noticed good music coming back tho.. I'm not critical of what a person listens to,I won't judge someone based on their preference..to me tho when someone spits a hard triple entendre,or rhymes in paragraphs I get that feeling that some do from a good beat. But the younger era seems to be more critical and disrespectful of the OGs and I think that's fucked up. Back in the day if there's a squabble you battled,on stage or on wax..I miss that. To me that's authentic hip hop,now it's battling online..troll wars and shit

[@jvnbrk]

@@radwansoueidan6390 Yeah I like DaBaby,when someone puts bars to a hard beat..which I do like a lot of new beats I think that's badass. And a lot of the beats still come from older producers..like Alchemist

[@mistahmst]

With all due respect, great hip-hop (and music in general) is so much more than metaphors, double entendres, etc. If that was really all rappers had back then and if they truly believed that production didn’t matter as much, the genre never would have lasted. The whole beats vs. lyrics argument was dumb the moment it was first discussed. Saying something substantial definitely takes the record to the next level and more artists should be doing that, but it is not a make or break. Hip-hop is music and if the musical aspect isn’t important to you, you really shouldn’t even be making music imo

[@jvnbrk]

@@mistahmst and that's why it's ok for us to have preference. The disrespect from the new age out there tho is real,80s rappers it was all about rhyming and battling,90s G Rap came and production and beats got bigger..but those rappers still gave respect to their predecessors. It seems these kids just totally shit on the guys who paved the way for the most part and that's what bothers me. And what I call wack is pretty wack,I still fuck with a lot of new guys who actually rap on these beats. You gotta admit cold bars on a banger type beat is pretty fire. That's totally fine,just seems to me the authenticity nowadays takes a backseat..but there is some new talent emerging. I feel it's steering back in that direction

[@imperialstats]

T.i. is smart tho he knows to continue his brand and relevancy he has ride the wave of newer rappers but he also put out Iggy azealia so he dont be on point all them time when he be promoting these new waves... honestly i dont think he likes they shit he just falling in line for the times and business cause he's a hustler

[@t.wynderogriffin798]

Kool g rap is probably the best mumble rapper of all time, know one outside of the east coast dialect could fully understand what he was saying...

[@equalfoundation895]

Great interview except it sounds like someone strangling a chicken 🐔

[@mrcommunity992]

Lmbo

[@NewYorksMostWanted]

Got me actually cracking up out loud right now lmaoo

[@derrienscott23]

😂😂

[@ray1411]

TIP also has to factor in Prodigy working with BG. We loved y’all on a street level.

[@GrinchyGreen334]

Mobb Deep even has 8ball featured on a song from their album “ Murda Music”. I forgot the name of it but they worked with him. I’m from the south and I get Tip’s point but most of the music is starting to sound the same, I can’t really even tell these youngstaz apart sometimes

[@BrooklynsFinest_]

@@GrinchyGreen334 these are facts... The Mobb Deep comparison is flawed. Although 8ball is dope, they did not create music that didn’t leave that region. Dod shook ones get play in Memphis? Maybe not but it got play and still gets played world wide. Groups like mobb deep and even M.O.P who never really got radio play is still revered and played by hip hop lovers world wide. The south has a chip on their shoulders becuz the north and west coast didn’t respect them, but when you put out a mediocre product what do you expect? The south has gone thru a transition. In the late 90’s early 2000’s they were spitting and getting crunk... now it’s low bit rate bullshit because they have access to free WiFi.

[@GrinchyGreen334]

@@BrooklynsFinest_ I agree with some of your points but not all of them tho. The Mobb Deep comparison is perfect actually. I might be 1 of the few brothers down here who listened to Mobb Deep, outside of me and maybe 2 or 3 of my friends nobody down south really bumped them. After Pac dissed them it got even worse. 8ball and MJG are LEGENDARY down here, EVERYBODY down south loves them. The way y’all look at Havoc and P is the exact same way we look at Ball and G. I think most of Mobb Deep fans are east coast brothers ( NY, NJ, Philly, etc) the exact same way most Ball and G fans are southern ( Ga, Al, Fl, etc) so it’s exactly the same. But I grew up on and highly respect East coast hip hop from the 80’s and 90’s, but the new east coast hip hop is just as bad as the south’s bro lol let’s be honest. The whole “ drill” wave is not good. I think the sound of mainstream hip hop as a whole has took a deep nose dive. You have to really look and search for the good stuff nowadays. Nobody in Memphis was bumping Mobb Deep either bro.

[@GrinchyGreen334]

@@BrooklynsFinest_ Actually the west always showed the south love bro, it was only the East that was hating on us. The west, south and Midwest have always worked together. The East was hating on the west the same way they were hating on the south lol. I think the East are the ones who had a chip on their shoulder because they felt like they were the only ones who should be doing hip hop

[@BrooklynsFinest_]

@@GrinchyGreen334 I say that because in my personal experience, Mobb Deep Rang off in Cali, Washington, Chitown, Miami, as well as Japan, Italy, France and even Russia... all places I’ve been and experienced the reactions to quiet storm, shook ones and even survival of the fittest. I mentioned M.O.P. Because in places without clean running water, they know all of the words to Ante up. Parts of the south did not accept those groups because they were not mainstream and the groups appeared to be menacing, there was a disconnect.

[@ICU9]

Shook Ones rocked nationwide in most hoods.

[@b.leegal751]

Not in Bama

[@shedparker]

Florida born & raised. All I listened to was Nas, Mob Deep, Lost Boyz, Mic Jeronimo, Grand Puba, Big, Pac, Digable Planets, Wu, etc.

[@ICU9]

@@b.leegal751 Not in the whole state? Shook Ones to me was a universal song, not a NY or territorial song. I assumed It got love in most hoods, in america.

[@lewjones3]

Im sorry Tip, u can't compare Young Thug to a Lazie Bone... 2 totally different things

[@Hborn]

Who is young thug

[@lewjones3]

@@Hborn Meh.. Some dude who calls himself a rapper and shops at Windsor

[@mikelee9612]

You right thug makes better MUSIC

[@liecencetokill7912]

The Title says it all thanks for Speaking up for our generation of rap cause trust me No generation Of music and Of any genre Should go through what we went through it’s not fair

[@god_of_the_universe7751]

Mumble rap is still wack. Regardless of how T.I. tries to justify it or defend it

[@krisbryant7100]

No doubt..lol

[@therealmccoy2004]

It's not u just old.. and most of the shitt yall calling mumbling they not even doing that.. its just tone that make it seem like that.

[@Cam-lg2vy]

Great interview 👍 especially from people who been in the industry and been apart of great groups

[@Magic1970something]

Great interview by TIP the dude is just on another level with his perspective of hip hop ...he gives a 3D high Definition view of hip hop ....Dope show guys !

[@mrjames851]

That’s all well and good, but we don’t necessarily need to hear artists during the development process. I’d rather someone like Lil Baby lay in the cut sharpening his sword and debut with something that still holds up musically when the trends are no longer in his favor.

[@jman1562001]

I think that political record he did during the George floyd protest will hold up very well. It was one of the most popular songs last yr. But I know he under pressure not to get into the political again for obvious reasons. I think we as fans underestimate the courage it takes to take a stand on serious issues and the financial cost that comes with that. Even our leaders know without the funding to back them, things can get difficult

[@kevinnichols3829]

This interview is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mainsourcery]

Looking forward to the entire interview. Great discussion.

[@sso4449]

Its all hiphop, we fuck with everything but in different ways. I fuck with big krit because of his lyrics, his flow and beats. My girl likes him because she likes his voice and the way his shit subs. We are both saying the same thing. Hiphop has always had nuance, from the deep krs ones, to the ones ppl thought were pure novelty. It has always been like this, name an era when it wasnt? Theres no difference today, expect the artists. All im hearing is that record labels push certain types of music and we the consumers and artists sit back and debate about other artists.

[@stuffwilliams6121]

Yall done fucked up & made him feel like he struck a blow for the explanation of mumble rap🤦🏾‍♂️ James Brown,really?🤦🏾‍♂️

[@spadesx9163]

Lmao exactly I knew he felt like a shark that smelt blood

[@deejaysurge5097]

How was he wrong though?

[@ghostblack305]

T.I. Well said you should find the artist that you like and represent them to the fullest, if you spend most of your time talking about the artist that you don't like, then the artist that you do like has to take a backseat, start talking about who's great and share there music, and stories. Peace Ghost Black

[@mjg239]

6:59 Ms Ravioli's comment is HILARIOUS!!! I thought I was hearing things for a minute. LMAO

[@_yesjas]

😂😂😂

[@julesgordon1109]

Hip hop was built off the culture of ny so of course ny is gonna be biased...if the hip hop was created in the south yall would have been bias towards everywhere else doing hip hop...that's natural.

[@proph8772]

That's a fact. T.I is full of you know what.

[@Ilovechicago100]

True. NYC hip hip is the best. 🙌🏾

[@JacobStayViben]

@@Ilovechicago100 that shit died in 03 when 50 came in. South been runnin shit since 06 😂😂😂

[@bossmusic212]

That was a great question Rah👍🏻 !!

[@Prof_Cos]

Great dialogue...

[@LiquidFlux66]

TI,OUTCAST,8 BALL& MJG, GOODIE MOB..Still bangs in the earcandy 🎧..What you know about dat,what you know about dat💪💪💪

[@rashadtaylor4279]

I know about DAT...😎👍

[@msgee123]

Gotta love T.I. ✊🏽❤️

[@PatrickDavidson]

“Trap music is directly associated with pain”

[@ricol9291]

I disagree with T.I. hip-hop doesn't offer anything like Public Enemy or Brand Nubian, Rakim, raps with comedy like Ski-Lo, Pharcyde etc

[@U_Tuba]

Big Corporations don't sponsor or endorse those type of acts that you mentioned. Like T.I said, you can Google that style of hip hop and find it.

[@747REDFELLA1]

Big cooperation dont because the Content in PE’s and BN’s music is in opposition with their government

[@U_Tuba]

Exactly my point. Big Corporations endorse content that will kill your brain cells. We need cell therapy.

[@Imjustbored2023]

BRB da packman and yn jay two very smart black men who make comedy

[@lets_play_a_game268]

13:20 BOOM!!!! 💥💥💥💥Exactly. Thank you T.I.

[@draday7793]

Good interview Lord Jamar T.I keeps it 100 straight facts 👏👏👏!!!!!!!

[@lewjones3]

I really wish T.I. would do a verses with someone

[@mrhussain9008]

He's got a solid 20 records for anyone. He wanted to battle 50 cent but 50 backed out.

[@theoriginal668]

TI and Luda need to do a verses.

[@lewjones3]

@@mrhussain9008 ikr.. that would've been a good battle

[@lewjones3]

I think 50 too proud to do it

[@Wis_Dom]

If it was ONE clique of dudes who mumble rapped it wouldn't be a problem. The problem is the MAJORITY of rappers are doing it, which degrades creativity in the art form.

[@trkstpbob1858]

I just learned why he is one of the very few southern rappers with a bit of a northern style which is the only reason I started rocking with Tip

[@rio9503]

Speak on it Tip!!! 8ball and MJG are second to none.

[@nobodyexceptme7794]

They really tryna bill cosby this man and his wife. We not gone let it happen again bruh.

[@tyronetucker3093]

"You are not going to find similarities in the way we talk You are going to find similarities in the way we are!" TIP

[@souhailkh693]

Great interview!

[@leoness9322]

I think the difference between Bone Thugs N Harmony and Mumble Rap is that when we heard Bone Thugs N Harmony, we suspected that if we could understand what they were saying, our appreciation for their artistry would further increase where as with mumble rap, our suspicion is that if we could understand them, our appreciation for their artistry would stay the same if not decrease and the mumbling serves as a way to disguise lack of lyricism, but with that said, I still agree that music is still ultimately about how it makes you feel, I'm just trying to add perspective on why we receive the two differently.

[@terucks]

This was a great conversation! I was wondering when someone was going to have a conversation....

[@trinityclark1895]

I wanted tip to mention JID because he’s the best young rap artist from the south (Atlanta) that has a mixture of both great lyrics and flow with style!

[@AJBerry-ox3oe]

T.I. really gave a solid interview on this!

[@MichaelQHowell]

Good interview by the Godcast 💪🏿

[@hateisasignofenvy651]

Great conversation👌🏿

[@micsmith672]

Great hip hop conversation

[@keastonwright5234]

It's the flood of mumble rap....James Brown style was his own...not duplicated ....ODB not duplicated.

[@spadesx9163]

Great point

[@shakimfightklub9551]

This was so dope!

[@IronBronx]

I miss the days when hip hop had substance and longevity. Then the south came in in mass and ruined it. Smh

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

I’m from the North but the South had great music

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

The South took over hip-hop after Pac and Biggie died

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

You had OutKast, TIP, Jeezy, Lil Wayne, Gucci, Trick Daddy etc. they were all lyricists and had substance in some type of way

[@NorthPhilly-zr7xc]

The south was nice back then the years later is when it change

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc When Future came around, shit changed for the worst😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@royaldigitalmedia]

Jamar thinks he's responsible for fashion landing in NY first. He was fortunate. That doesn't make you faster than anyone. That's happenstance.

[@k9dub859]

T.I. is and will always be a Hip-hop G.O.A.T.

[@cixxthachiller6874]

Great Interview Great knowledge the best guest that came to the GodCast the convo was real and on point

[@leslieepie8475]

mamasay mamasah mama makosa is a line micheal jackson took from the legendary Cameroonian saxophonist Emanuel Dibango . Makossa is a cameroonian gerne of musical vibe which was hugely popular back in the days and many great artist around the world used guiter partterns and other musical notes from the Cameroonian Makossa music,.

[@keem008]

When Black folk went north they followed American English. Down South kept their Afro nation American south language and I love it and I'm from Philly raised in Philly. I don't call it mumble rap it's Down South Hiphop Nation Language. It's how they say their rhymes and the style in which they say it that makes DownSouth Hiphop Nation Rap the shit.. It's like Haku poems in its own way.

[@therealmccoy2004]

Straight up though

[@bellamybeatz]

I understood errythang ODB said

[@vercetti_03]

Frl Mumble rap is blanket term for rappers nowadays. Ppl like 21 Savage and 6ix9ine get called mumble rappers when they're not. lol

[@jvnbrk]

we could just call it all wack and end it at that lol..but of course TI is going to be somewhat defensive of it just because of who he's put on.

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

I never heard anybody call 6ix9ine a mumble rapper.. If anything he sound like Fredro Starr and Sticky Fingaz from Onyx

[@vercetti_03]

@@user-xb4fm5rx8h Ppl tend to lump in with mumble rappers lol

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

Ppl from up north call 21 Savage a mumble rapper cause of his dialect. We can’t really understand him like that but he shouldn’t be labeled as a mumble rapper

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

Playboi Carti is a mumble rapper if anything

[@jmc407]

full sail students in the 90s predicted trap was gonna take over ONCE YOU LOCK DOWN BLACK COLLEGES, CAR SHOWS, THE STRIP CLUBS, AND STEP SHOWS YOU SAYING SOMETHING UNFORTUNATELY NY WASNT PAYING ATTENTION

[@PatrickDavidson]

TI should do an album wit havoc I bet it would be fire

[@MichaelQHowell]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good points by T.I.

[@rashadtaylor4279]

(that part)...😎👍

[@kevinrobinsonjr5440]

THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION!!

[@SlickFlair1]

Great interview

[@robertallen9050]

Y’all gotta thank TIP for being one of the only OG’s showing respect to the younger generation

[@Leeslaughtr]

Mumble is whack never supporting handicap hip hop.

[@spadesx9163]

Handicap hip hop?!? 😂😂

[@imaking123]

DAMN T.I. used an example I just used. I just told someone that Ol Dirty Bastard (RIP) was not a good rapper on no level and a lot of the things The Wu-Tang Clan was saying I didn't understand but because they were New Yorkers and New York rocked with them they got that stamp of approval from NY yet New Yorkers expect exemplary 5 star quality lyricism from everyone else that's not from NY.

[@Cee4DaCulture]

Let's be clear ODB wasn't a mumble rapper FOH! Y'all was supposed to shut thY down soon as he mentioned him. He had some crazy moments in some of his songs but we clearly understood what the GOD was saying. Bone Thugs N Harmony rapped fast they didn't mumble either... T.I. defending that bullshit down there when he said in the past that he doesn't really fuck with that mumble shit too much either.

[@youngdeezy2007]

Right... They change their stance up once they profit off it..

[@mhc12k]

Good real convo

[@JamesEarlBonez]

TI definitely makes great points

[@themakerofallmusic]

And most only rap about pills, money, women and cars, because that is all the experience they have

[@747REDFELLA1]

That content was in 90s rap also especially street oriented rap no matter what region it was in..

[@nanabird6980]

@@747REDFELLA1 exactly

[@meljacobs1001]

We loved Mob Deep in Chicago. He's a little inaccurate on the midwest

[@bdredz1356]

Salute💪 ..I really Don't fux with TI but he made Knowledge Born to on the Points on these New Rappers/ Mumbling and Style..💪 Im OldSkool and I felt Someway about Southern Rap...I Understand Now Salute💪 TI..( Im Never too Old to Learn HipHop Knowledge).

[@flyguy081]

T.I. said something that is really true about The south that I don’t think New York people know about. The groups and artists is that you deem to be the greatest to ever do it,in the south it is not the same even though I am hip-hop lover so I love East Coast music and am familiar with a lot of those guys but like Tip said with Mobb deep yeah in New York they were the pinnacle but in the south you probably could ask 10 people around you Who listens to Mobb deep and maybe one or two people might say they do especially here in Memphis where I’m from!🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ray1411]

TIP and Digga lost me with liking a black immigrant putting on black face. Sorry, yall need to chill.

[@patgardner1614]

She was expecting him to say something negative about crunk music..

[@diontaedaughtry974]

I think there's a difference between not being able to comprehend what people are saying because of their accents like James Brown and Bone thugs and then there's talking gibberish like mumble rap.

[@RTBPODCAST]

Clear da king name expitiously 🌴✌🏿🌴

[@prettythug4]

The only people that started to ride the south wave from the New York Tri state when the south started being noticed where people whoWe’re not teenagers in the 1980s

[@drogramadanjohnson1061]

Great interview, that's how you fuse up top and down bottom

[@jacquesretro]

Nobody else see that big ole but ? The but is that Mobb Deep , Wu-Tang made a World Wide impact, not just a regional impact....

[@747REDFELLA1]

They were able to make a world wide impact because the music industry catered to New york up north east hiphop

[@jacquesretro]

@@747REDFELLA1 Nah....cause Outkast, Scarface made a world wide impact too.Some styles are just more universal.

[@747REDFELLA1]

Because of the media..And Scarface is not worldwide more so usa and some of Europe..But Outkast is known in more countries like certain countries in South America,Europe,Africa,the middle east and many more places due to the success of 3000 crossing over

[@jacquesretro]

@@747REDFELLA1 True...My point was that certain sounds/ styles have a more universal appeal...Others have a more regional appeal.

[@jacquesretro]

@@747REDFELLA1 There's certain underground east coast artist that had very little promotion but are loved worldwide...You can even be from the South like Little Brother, or the Midwest like Slum Village.....