T.M. Krishna for Sangita Kalanidhi | Carnatic Musicians boycott 2024 Academy events

The selection of Carnatic vocalist T.M. Krishna for the prestigious Sangita Kalanidhi award has resulted in several other musicians deciding to skip the annual conference of the Madras Music Academy this year.
Why are they doing so? Why is T.M. Krishna controversial? Watch this video to know the full story.
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00:00 - Indian Classical Music
00:34 - Sangita Kalanidhi 2024 and reactions
00:55 - Context, History and Significance
01:44 - Sangita Kalanidhi awardees
02:15 - Ranjani and Gayatri withdraw
02:55 - Why the controversy?
03:22 - TMK's journey
04:28 - Why TMK Boycotted Sabhas
05:17 - TMK Controversies
06:34 - RaGa on Krishna and Periyar
06:47 - Clarification
07:09 - N Murali's reply and N Ram's attack
07:09 - Does Krishna Walk the Talk?
08:14 - We still love TMK's music!!
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#carnaticmusic #southindian #chennaimusic #margazhi #sangitakalanidhi #musicacademy #madrasmusicacademy #ttk #chennai #indianclassicalmusic

[@cpadman5800]

T.M. Krishna relishes controversies. He is mixing politics with music and religion. Controversies can sometimes increase visibility and public interest in a celebrity, as they often generate media attention and public discussion. However, the impact of the controversy on a celebrity's popularity can vary widely depending on the nature of the controversy, While some celebrities may experience a temporary surge in popularity due to controversy, others may face negative consequences that can harm their reputation and career. Carnatic music is not secular. Carnatic music evolved from ancient Hindu traditions. Carnatic music is mostly Hindu devotional songs. Unlike Hindustani music Carnatic music was not affected by the Arab and Persian influences. it is a bad idea to bring Christian and Muslim influences to Carnatic music. Carnatic music should not be used as a tool to bring social reform. However, I agree that Carnatic music should not remain as a forum for Brahmins only. It should be open to everyone but they have to realize that Carnatic music is Hindu music.

[@sridharr1743]

T M Krishna has made himself as a laughing stock with his own hypocrisy theory... What will be his standing if he has no rasikaa...If he was not a carnatic musician who would have known him... Shameless fellow ...

[@AkhilaVenkat]

Would he be even heard without him being in music?

[@devarajsrinivasan5911]

T(thiruttu) M(moorghan) K(Kayavan)

[@sriramtandalam2216]

Music without Bhakti is like Sugar without sweetness. They can’t be separated. More over to sing on Lord Rama or any other God and also sing on a person who insulted Rama and God is atrocious and unacceptable. Just for this TMK doesn’t deserve the award. His vidwat is a waste.

[@anuradhavasudevan2602]

He has not performed in the academy for 10 years then what pressure made them to give this award. Ranjani and Gayatri are right in their decision.

[@user-yf5qc1mw4y]

Pressure descended from combo of The Hindu+DMK who are out to destroy Sanatanic icons

[@RaviPrakash-xw6zf]

Genesis of the controversy over T M Krishna being awarded by Sangeeta Academy has been narrated without any prejudice

[@chandrashekharhs9738]

Wish that tmk begins teaching students from marginalized castes/groups so that inclusiveness can be achieved.

[@deepashreediwakar1819]

Very well presented and gives a thorough context to this unfortunate muck on sangeetha. In today's times, no field is devoid of controversy. Sadly, our parampara succumbed to this as well.

[@venkataramansubramanian762]

Krishna does not deserve the award though he is musically talented because he has removed Bhakthi from carnatic music, which has two essential components Music & Bhakthi. Just music without Bhakthi is not Carnatic Music. So he does not deserve the award. It should be withdrawn by the MMA. MMA is bigger than TMK. The Carnatic Musicians are bigger than MMA. The RASIKA Community is bigger than the Carnatic Musicians. Carnatic music is bigger than the Rasika Community. TMK is free to start his own Music with all his skills without Bhakthi, giving a new name for 'Music without Bhakthi' and sing in nook and corner. Nobody objects to it. But he is not entitled to enter Carnatic Music halls being antagonistic to Bhakthi.

[@varadarajgs5834]

Very well explained.A true and a knowledgeable person will not issue contradictory statements in public.Hope he realize and be among all the musicians who are all contributing a lot to the music world.Pray for sadbuddhi.

[@parthasarathyep5644]

Your skit is balanced and unbiased one. Keep it up. Coming to the point, conferrement of this coveted title on TMK is highly condemnable since TMK is an atheist, rebel and speaks, sings, writes against the basic tenets of our system of music nay Carnatic music, propounded by great Vaggeyakaras, Trinity and Venkatamakhi, the preceptor 72 Melakarthas.

[@anjanamurthy8343]

I condemn TMK for trying to pass off Mr. Perumal Murugan as a poet . He needs to pick from among our talented, young Tamil poets .

[@parthasarathysr2387]

Mr Krishna does not have any shame. How does he accept the award from an institution which he had boycotted . He still has time and should withdraw. He sings in praise of EVR who condemned Rama and the bhakti . There is no carnatic music without Bhakti

[@venkatramaniyer6546]

Nothing to say anything about this matter. Only carnatic music Rasigas has to decide it, because they can only tell whether classical carnatic has tobe in it's old form or it need changes ( in all respect ).

[@AkhilaVenkat]

I am only surprised about Krishna contradicting himself. He doesn't believe in bhakthi or a dress code only when it comes to Hindu oriented krithis.But when he sings on Allah , he wears the Islam kufis which are the traditional and religious skull caps for Muslim men!!! So then he has bhakthi in his song for Islam or Christianity. Isn't that being a hypocrite?

[@__V_ishu]

Well said. All reformations only when it comes to hindus. We can dress their deess codes and ornaments when singing their songs. But nit for hindus even though it is a hindu arft form.

[@sundaramthiags]

There cannot be a more inclusive singer performer than Smt. MS Amma, whom Sri K M Munshi referred to as MUSIC SUBLIME. She has popularized several kruthis of Sri Vedanayagam Pillai n has even sung songs on Allah (Bhavan's LP). Let us not forget the fact that only we Hindus sing 'Eashwaru Allaah Theraa Naam". No Christian or Muslim will ever do that. So, let Krishna train n make at least few non-Hindus to sing our Hindu songs and prove.

[@AkhilaVenkat]

@@sundaramthiags totally agreed

[@sukumarankrishnamurthy492]

I am also brahmin aged 69 years studied in mylapore Ramakrishna home went to Sanskrit college Oriental school from 1967 to 1972 and vivekananda college PUC evening college Got proficiency award and scholarship in those days. Sir u may wonder why he is telling these to evryone, Sir why some brahmins are against TM Krishna, damaging his reputation? He is only a true brahmin having generous attitude of brahmins. Generally brahmins are away from politics and damaging others. Other negative thinking prahmins are also against to TM Krishna is not fair, who are seeking good publicity. Pls understand brahmins, Truth only Triumph, u can not do any damage to others. Be true brahmin.

[@__V_ishu]

@@sukumarankrishnamurthy492 First of all is this a cast issue? High jacking Carnatic music from Bhakti to EVR is correct? Also, normalizing all hindu arts vasthu, yoga, literature, music, dance ect is correct? Isn’t this a religious conversion technique? Can a Carnatic music artist dishonor hindu faith, its saint, saying singing on god and broomstick is the same is good for you? Can we award a person who is boycotted Music academy over a decade? This isn’t a cast issue indeed and cookedup as a cast issue to create some noice for the upcoming election.. You dont need to be a brahmin by birth to think about these, only thing needed is, you need to love this Land and feel you as a true hindu, then have little responsibility to preserve them from political games to destroy them. Come out from ur cast mind set and Think in from the otherside of the story, what will this make to our hindu tradition

[@hnnagendra1319]

Music without Bhakti, and Bhavana will not take music to the Pinacle where it gives immense happiness and contentment.

[@lakshmiramakrishna9255]

indeed. THIS, is a fact that neither team, pro tmk or not, can deny. it is just universal. the pinnacle of joy and contentment has been repeatedly reached by singing pure unalloyed music - regardless of who or which caste the singer is. the moment you reach that pinnacle as a listener, you realize that you were not listening to the music from the ears but the heart. and the singer, singing from the heart, not just the mouth or voice.

[@user-yf5qc1mw4y]

Rendering pure perfect Ragas after years of practice+Devotion is Tapasvi Result, which can't b found from all communities

[@srirangamr933]

Bhakthi is eternal and intertwined in the music where no petty thoughts interfere.

[@uthakumar3672]

Sangeetham and bhakti are not separatable. I really donot understand an institute which nutured divine music till 2023 has taken a stand sangitam is only for entertainment and bhakti alone. Most of the vivid followers are very sad the respect musicacdamy used to get will diminish and our divine classical music will flourish to the highestblevel

[@muralik1954]

The Hindu, Anti Hindu magazine..N Ram .. an Athiest against Hindu Dharma.. now Murali N another dravidian supporter, support TMK an evil, against Sanathana Dharma and Bhakthi movement.. he has no Shame to accept the award, And Academy no shame on giving the award .. Made for each other

[@mgchandrakanth]

There is a parallel Purandara dasa devara nama composition similar to Tyagaraja s Sangeeta jnaanamu Bhaktivina. This is kelano hari taalano, taala melagaliddu Prema villada gaana.....Hari can't listen to music which has taala and all instrumental support, but without bhakti. Most musicians are aware of this devara nama composition.....the ending is truly interesting. ... Adi gadi gaananda bhashpa pulaka dinda nade nudige shree hari ennuta, druda bhaktaranu koodi Hari keertane paadi kadege Purandara vittala nendare kelva, kelano Hari taalano...How should we lead our life...every step we need to remember the lord with smiling tears chanting lord's name and be in the company of firm bhaktas or firm believers of God who will accept us later. There are no compelling reasons to disbelieve this by any musician. In another composition of Muttaiah Bhagavatar in Maya malava goula...shree Vidya vedya mahime devee Dina vanodyame...bhavika phala daayini...shive hari kesha bhamini....goddess parvathi grants phala or boons to the bhavukas. Bhavukas are devotees who are immersed in the sahitya raga bhava combine who appreciate the bhakti bhava in music. Therefore bhakti bhakti bhakti is the main message in karnatik music....

[@VenGop]

Sir, do you practice what you preach ,? How do you know mr.tnk does not have bhakthi and dont 😢 fall into your bhavuka definition? The matter is between academy and tnk, and ends there. As listeners and music lovers connoisseurs who are we to question the academy. tmk has given and will sing in more religious precincts and places. His gamakams and deft handling ragas, no singer can match in 21st century. Why persons who have drowned themselves in the music sagaram ( samudram) against the academy awarding TMK? If persons like you are so magnanimous and broad minded, ignore his faults and mistakes as he is a music gifted genius,( may be with perverted intelligence), excuse him for his misdemeanors and get on with life by not attending the academy awards ceremony and the conference, which incidentally mr.d.sridhar should have done with some excuse for non availability on the opening day etc. without stirring controversy. Tmk might have sung some songs composed by (DK) vairamuthu ( maybe to please nasthikas fans), but TMK doesn't say he supports periyar teachings etc.,viz., garlanding Lord rama idol with chappals? There are 2 sides to a coin, ignore his foolish acts, tomfoolery behavior as he is not even 50, and maybe again he has to grow up and get more matured into a fine sophisticated musician to conduct himself with dignity in the music world and public with proper dress conduct like the gnbs, sembai semmangudi madurai Mani Ms etc. we have to pardon him and accept him into our society not outcast, criticize and condemn him like a pariah for his chilarous (childish child like) behavior.

[@VenGop]

Well said, perhaps he has no mentor or guide like Maha peiava to guide him into the correct direction and virtuous and right divine path? Or maybe he is on his own thinking that all his actions past and future are correct and there is no one to question him and point out his mistakes, no proper guru perhaps??

[@violinmak21]

I am writing about the senior Musicians who deserved Sangeeta Kalanidhi in a series of post in my fb

[@akshayleo3]

Much needed context to the T.M.Krishna controversy. Well compiled!

[@elanjelian]

I presume the authors of this video consider themselves unbiased, but I fear that's not the case. While they mention the criticism Krishna faced, they give little attention to the support he received and continues to receive both within and outside the community. They talk of the Sindhikka Sonnavar Periyar song, but not the Keethanams written by Perumal Murugan that worship and celebrate nature, like, for example, Parkka, paarkka. Additionally, they fail to acknowledge that the criticisms against Krishna often lack substance, resorting instead to ad-hominem attacks. To witness this mindless vitriol, one need only scroll through the comments section of this post. The point is straightforward: fervent Hindus, particularly the Sanathanis, are free to view and treat Carnatic music as part of their belief system. However, South Indian classical music, as demonstrated by TM Krishna, is versatile enough to cover any subject of import and can be performed in almost any language, including colloquial Chennai Tamil. Such matters need not be confined to the Tukkada section, as some may wish.

[@raghuramamb284]

Ranjani and Gayatri have made a point.A very goid point. If we can not accept that, then we are biased. EVR is totally wrong in releasing statements like kill the Brahmin first. We discuss every thing else than that. So any one who tries to make a hero of peple of such nature are condemnable. So is Krishna. First of all we shall all stop this bull shit Brahmin bashing. It has become a formula, bash brahmins , and doing so bash hinduism, you will be showered with all sorts of awards. We are simply going mad over with the formula what the british coloniser coined to their agenda fir political and religious gains. No one talks about Prakasam pantulu, Kandukuri, Unnava Lakshmi narasimha who are just a few of thousands of Brahmins who sacrificed every thing for social reforms and well being of the deprived.Somewhere this balanced view has to Emerge. I am extremely happy that RaGa have stoid their ground very well.

[@elanjelian]

@@raghuramamb284 - What relevance has your response to my comments? Kindly elucidate.

[@tirunarayan2201]

Bias exists anywhere and everywhere. And it will forever. And it will swing to the opposite spectrum like a pendulum. An interesting point you bring up. I don't know if there is a group called Sanathinis. My interpretation of that is "do the right thing". By that, it could mean, at the basic level, speak the truth, help others, be considerate, be ethical, and such. I have no comment on other matters you brought up. Good luck.

[@padmaganesan6607]

So many are diverting TM krishna it is time he joins only with his fellow sisters and brothers and concentrate on music alone for carnatic music to cherish

[@tirunarayan2201]

My comments are based on my experience of hearing/listening his musical performances. He is good in his rendering/delivering the music. His voice is harsh to my ears. Sometimes his voice modulations are abrupt. Now to whatever his social behavior. I think the artists did the right thing to follow their heart/mind in boycotting the award event. An interesting question is what are the criteria off selecting someone for the award. If rasikas are upset about his off the consert behavior, they have can choose not to support T.M. Krishna in any way.

[@ArunSeshadri]

The main reason why Carnatic music still seems restricted to a particular community is because of a lack of exposure. As a classical art form, people need to know the history, the essence and the theory in order to be connoisseurs (in Carnatic terms, 'rasikas') of classical art forms. I think working on these aspects as compared to changing the whole art form itself will be beneficial in the long run.

[@padhmajasatyamoorti7688]

Anyone with a good voice and a flare for singing can sing movie songs very well. But carnatic music needs proper training and years of practice. Also need to listen to famous singers to expand your knowledge. Not everyone will have inclination to learn this difficult art form.

[@mojorisin08]

It is better Carnatic Music remains in the hands of Brahmins. The other castes lack devotion and dedication and will dilute the standards and even ask for caste based reservations to perform on stage

[@AkhilaVenkat]

If Krishna had trained a few from the underprivileged people of different place which has no exposure to carnatic music from the time he has been speaking about this, he could have brought atleast a few people onto stage. Westerners or those who can afford to learn from him.are not included in this category

[@AkhilaVenkat]

I disagree that it should be within a community. But definitely you can't force this music to people who consider this art as boring.

[@mojorisin08]

@@AkhilaVenkat Ancient Bharatam was a world leader since it was governed by Brahmins and Kshatriyas who were the role models. Most Brahmins selflessly contributed to the shastras and Veda parampara. Modern India is an Anti-Brahmin Ambedkarite republic made for Shudras, Vaishyas and minorities. In Modern India, it is Vaishyas who are looked up to as role models. Money alone matters. In such a world, only the Brahmin community must be entrusted with preserving the arts and the parampara since they also care for the samparadaya along with money. Today Samskrutam, the Shastras and Hindu Sanskriti in general are alive ONlY because of Selfless contribution of Brahmins. Don’t forget.

[@madhavans1436]

Let us face it.This is clearly political award and certainly not a cultural award.With this perhaps MA may start disintegrating.

[@parthasarathysr2387]

He is a hypocrite of the first order . Those who want carnatic music to thrive should boycott his music altogether - Public concerts or music on social channels

[@mgchandrakanth]

karnatak classical music is the art form where there is recognition of the artist's talents without any knowledge of his or origin. Music lovers attend concerts recognising the talents in the artiste which ultimately is culminating in bhakti. If not can all sing only svaras and not Sahithya!,

[@mgchandrakanth]

Basavanna vachana also underscores bhakti. Naada Priya Shivanembaru naada Priya Shiva nalla, Veda priya Shivanembaru Veda priya shivanalla, naada priyanoo alla, Veda priyanoo alla, Bhakti priya namma koodala sangama deva. Ie god is bhakti priya and nothing else. Here also music without bhakti has no existence.

[@anandasatya483]

Each religion has their own method of music. Muslims have Arab type, Christians have caroll type, Buddhists have tibetan type of prayer songs, Hindus have hindustani or carnatic. Why spoil each with another? Imagine the Hindu prayer songs with any other type... Horrible, isn't it? Can you pray to Lord Ganesha early morning in Muslim Pongu style...? Will any Muslim relish it? Please ask Singer Krishna this question and he will understand...the devotees sentiment. He is not that much dumb.. He is only against the limiting the carnatic music to certain groups. In a country with a population of 140crores, how many can match the calibre of Ranjani Gayatri, or Aruna Sairam? 140 ? Not even one in a million...or one crore. With the blessings of saints we do have blessed musicians..but can anyone match the maestro Ilayaraja in swaraprayoga of various types of songs. Or Sri KV. Mahadevan? Even Dr.Balamuralikishna paid tributes to them. It's your luck that those musically genius artists chose to remain in light music only. Their understanding in different types of music helped in expanding the horizon. Nothing went wrong in the purity of carnatic system. Probably Krishna means this when he suggested to take carnatic music to various levels. But his approach may not be appropriate. Even now I don't know how many can take it in the right spirit. But I am worried that in spite of a handfull of good carnatic musicians, the vacancy left by Chembai, Madurai Mani, Madurai Somu,MDR, MS, Rajaratnam pillai,MSG, S.Balachander, the list goes on without replacement. There is quality in NRI supporters, but quantity of musicians is in sufficient. There is much scope for expansion, if you do not indulge in groupism or in fighting between good artists. Non commercial teachers are still rare for the art..Govt is there to help but quality comes only out of devotion to the art.

[@vv1614]

T M கிருஷ்ணாவுக்கு விருது கொடுத்தது அரசியல். His name is TMK. So, he was given this award? இவருக்கு அருகதை இல்லை. He does not deserve this at all. I think the award should be taken back. இவருக்கு தந்த விருதை திருப்பி வாங்க வேண்டும். He is athiest ... And anti-Hindu,.. He himself boycotted music academy for more than a decade. So, Why should he be given such an important award?

[@gitaiyengar6261]

Talk is cheap. TM Krishna talks but he has yet to show at least one student of his from the " non elitist" group as he calls. He is only interested in appearing as a so-called reformist with nothing to prove. The letter written by N Murali reeks of arrogance and is not a real reply to Ms Ranjani & Gayatri. Like his brother N Ram, both just want to defend themselves for the politically motivated Sangita Kalanidhi award this year

[@rpalaniappan864]

No carnstic singer should sing in music academy in future.

[@ramachandrankrishnaswamy6345]

He is confused and condraticting himself.Mahakavi brought purakshi but sung songs on krishna and kali ...that too imagining krishna as kadalan,kuzhandai bacause he believed in bakthi.lf mrudangam goes away from accompaniment then he hasto protect the makers for their survival

[@rps3182]

Is Murali don't respect the tradition. Probably He joins the reformist team of TN

[@tirunarayan2201]

I read a lot of comments against TM. Krishna. Those commenters can choose not to support him in any and every way. I saw/heard a few of his online renderings. They are good. They are not enthralling to my ears/senses. Do as you like it.

[@praveenModlier]

TM Krishna's elevation to recognition conferred by Madras Music Academy has very less to do with the narration mentioned in this heavily tilted video. Actually, he is more hated for his glorification of yesteryear contributors of Carnatic music. Yes, there is no doubt that one community is heavily dominated in this field of music and their talent is backed by their passion for the classical music. However, to the larger viewers the precise cause is the significant contributions by non Brahminical group towards carnatic music that has hurt the egos of this community. As said, there is no dearth of talent among Brahmins but they have maintained tight grip over the domain by conveniently discouraging the 'outsiders' from achieving success. It's a big story untold and hidden from the masses. There are great dancers like Alarmel Valli and Leela Samson who were deliberately ignored by the media (controlled by specific group) to prevent popularity just because they didn't belong to the clan that i mentioned above. The real stalwarts of carnatic were like Madurai Somu , Subrahmanian Pillai whose names were literally wiped out to prevent them getting due recognition. Why can't they name prestigious awards in their names? This cupid attitude towards own community is where the narrow mindedness of this clan that made people like TMK question. Simply speaking he rocked the boat.

[@alohadarien9246]

Anyone can learn carnatic music as long as one brings the Bhakti of the composer. There’s absolutely no discrimination on that. Everyone enjoys appar thevaram although he is not a Brahmin. Music has no caste or creed but to bring evr who disrespected lord Rama literally makes tm Krishna unfit for this divine art

[@natarajagumbe6323]

Krishna is undoubtedly a hypocrite! Despite his support to lower section of society in the matter of learning or teaching music, he has not been able to attract pupils from that society! This tells volumes about his philosophy!

[@subukaundinya4007]

Rating anyone or any organization as the highest - leads to controversies eventually.

[@seetharamanvee]

Music is universal. Its application/ popularisation to the common masses depends on one's capacity to reach out and take it to them. Other views are out of place here. Excellence of music rendered by people ONLY matter for the award(s)and not their personal /ideological inclination ( s) which are PRIVATE. One can't politicise music for selfish ends and claim ownership over the entire gamut of Music disregarding / disrespecting other reputed / popular/ famous Musicians and their EXPERT Apex body in a totally BIASED and parochial manner. out of JEALOUSY and NARROW-MiNDED vision and pickup quarrels in a childish manner. Body of experts decide awards after analysing various factors. Some selfish Individuals cannot DICTATE the EXPERT body for their own benefits

[@Prasannakumar-yk7bf]

Music is universal, the type (genre ) of music is not. Krishna himself did not agree with the "body of experts". He declared that "henceforth I will not participate in the Academy musical events". In his fervor and misguided hatred against Brahmins, he is destroying Karnatic music. Krishna probably does not know that Purandara Dasa who is known as the Sangita pita maha was not a Brahmin and one of Academy awardee, Mr. Cowdaiah was not a brahmin either. Krishna reminds me of another famous personality, Mr. Rahul Gandhi.

[@srirangamr933]

It's v sad that chaste music is being disrespected by starting a controversy. If you really respect the Trinity u wld not get caught up with petty thoughts about another Musician. None is chaste with no flaws.

[@dr.skrishnaprakash943]

I recently happened to hear a bhajan of Sant Tulsi Das (which had been sung and popularised decades ago by the legendary Shri D V Paluskar) sung by this man who appears to have no respect for our religious scriptures or our traditions. The rendition was PATHETIC to say the least , and his DICTION AND PRONUNCIATION were simply terrible!! Incidentally does this man know that D V Paluskar ji himself was an orthodox brahmin???

[@sundaramthiags]

sangIta jnAnamu bhakti vinA sanmArgamu galadE manasA - St. Thiagaraja. TMK thinks talks n acts like an opportunistic politician. He earns his living by singing n teaching kritis of the Trinity, Swathi Thirunal, Paapanasam Sivan and the like. Then how n why he speaks disrespectfully of such composers, especially Thiagaraja Swami. He is an unscrupulous perverted professional who needs to be rejected by the music world.

[@satyanarayang6589]

Start another Academy by boycotting Madras Music Academy.

[@user-yf5qc1mw4y]

Anti Sanatanis succeed dividing Brahmins over Music Academy, the easy way to vaporise Music from so-called Devotion

[@tirunarayan2201]

Good idea. Someone must take a lead. And it can be started outside of Chennai, or, Tamizh Nadu. Perhaps Andhra, Karnataka, etc.

[@apperrajalingam2630]

Ennaikku matta porallo theriyilleh.....igeethatham theriyelleyeh

[@MM-dh3wr]

Bhirgu kicked lord Vishnu on his chest with his dirty legs

[@mgchandrakanth]

There is a composition of St Tyagaraja which most musicians render:Sangeetha jnanamu bhaktivina..... mere knowledge of music without devotion can never lead to the true path. Lord Shiva, Hanuman, seers Brungi, Agastya, Maatanga, Naarada worship through music saturated with devotion. Discrimination of right and wrong is crucial. The world is unreal and transient due to the arishadwargas. Hence there is no other way to salvation than knowledge of music integrated with devotion. What else enybody needs to accept that bhakti and music are appurtenant and cant be separated. While all musicians may not know the real meaning of all compositions, yet the final message of most compositions is bhakthi. Therefore bhakti and music are not mutually exclusive. What the musicians have boycotted is only to air this view, which is also the view of listeners.

[@padhmajasatyamoorti7688]

Very well said. Knowledge without bakthi is useless tinsel... This is a famous line stated by none other than Shri Rajaji. None of us oppose TM Krishna in educating downtrodden beyond caste and creed. But his approach to his own ideas is very cheap and degrading his fellow artists more especially Hinduism. If TM Krishna is such a great person to bring in a revolution he shouldn't taking cover under E.Ve.Ra. Also he shouldn't accept the title. He is a hypocrite. Apology to Carnatic Music. He has left a permanent ugly scar. Whoever talks ill of Ranjani Gayatri should know Rahul Vellal is not a brahmin by birth and he has been trained by Ranjani - Gayatri. Cheap people alone will act like TM Krishna.

[@rameshv62]

இதுவரை ஒரு தாழ்தப்பட்டவருக்குக்கூட இசை பயிற்றுவித்து மேடையேற்றவில்லை என்பது உண்மை. மாறாக இவரிடம் படித்தவர்கள் அனைவரும் பார்பனர்கள் அல்லது வெளிநாட்டவர்கள் தான். கிருஷ்ணா வருடத்துக்கு ஒருமுறை ஆல்காட் குப்பத்தில் இசைக்கச்சேரி நிகழ்த்துவதால் இசையைப் பரப்பமுடியுமா?

[@paulsundar5300]

No one has ever doubted or commented on his talent in carnatic music. The award is considered purely based on one's talent and one's contribution and development of carnatic music. Even though the carnatic music is dominated by a particular community it is great to see a man from the same community to take the music to the lesser known and underprivileged communities. Let us appreciate his revolutionised ideas and appreciate the people who from the same community had recognized his talent and his societal concern and selected for the award. Regarding his bakthi or devotion to God and music, his unbiased intention was revealed in his writings and debates that he sees God in all and in all people. Surely he stands among Bharthi, and K. Balachandar who have brought social revolution both within and outside their communities in their respective fields. Surely TM Krishna deserves this award.

[@rps3182]

Magsaysay award has connection to Ford foundation, an anti sanadhan ,Indian tradition lobby &close TO SOROS

[@shobanaramkumar4215]

Do you think it would have invoked so much protest from highly accomplished musicians if ut were purely for music that he was conferred the award? There seems to be more to it than meets the eye. Politically fishy. And if I’m not mistaken the first SK award was given in 1941 or 42. Not in ‘29

[@VenGop]

8:52 8:52 8:52 A very deserving talented skilful musician in the lineage starting with ariyakudi, gnb, sembai, semmangudi, madurai Mani, Ms etc. Etc., mlv, dkp. I don't say mr.ram is right but could have been more diplomatic by saying broad minded, because I am sure RaGa can't come up to his high level or any of Radha jayalakshmi, soolamangalam sisters ,alathur brothers or even the upcoming mambalam sisters. Of Z zee generation. Their quality is deteriorating which they don't know or aware but they should not have objected as they are prejudiced and mr.d.sridhar also should not have objected to the academy giving the honor and award to TMK as it is definitely none of his business or RaGa etc. even sri balamurali sang lots of Bangla songs on kolkatta and elsewhere.as rasikas, why are we bothered of atmk songs in Mecca Jerusalem or 29c bus route on sakthi etc. or in coovum river Banks. TMK intension is to take music to the masses, streets, which are the places our great saints sang devotional songs as part of uncha vriddhi, which is not at all very low demeaning condemning acts to be criticized. I sincerely wish that RaGa and sri. D. Sridhar read. These comments open their minds and let some body or association, group like the renowned academy gives title after so many deliberations and discussions, debates etc. among the academy awards committee would have come up with this decision. As once again of anyone listens to TMK archive videos from incipient initial stages, one will be aghast and very much surprised at the consistency and religious fervor and dedication with which TMK has been singing all these years and I sincerely wish and pray that God gives him long healthy life to grow stronger in stature and to receive more international accolades and awards. I am prepared to defend my commitments anywhere on any public forum. Hope these comments are posted on the academy website and elsewhere that our inner gnana eyes are opened that we learn to look at life in a broad perspective wise manner. Jai hind. Sathyameva jeyathe!!??

[@VenGop]

A very candid and wise comment very practical and highly wise comment

[@svramakrishnan124]

Very well presented the issue facing the MA vs Carnatic music….the moot question is why choose a musician who has boycotted MA for a decade….why present the honour to a pseudo who claims he is spreading the Carnatic music to the non Brahmins and the under privileged…..but in a decade he has no proof of that…..he is only teaching privileged rich Brahmins, and using only Brahmin accompanists….he is minting money using the same music which he criticises. He has an agenda to divide the society in tamilnadu where dravidam is against upper class and brahmins.. everyone knows how MAGSAY awards are manipulated to people like TMK, Kejriwal. Etc..who work against India in the garb of social workers or activists…MA should if it has the honour, honesty, true to the purpose for which MA was established, with humility regret its decision and withdraw the honour to TMK….go without SK award this year, or give it to a deserving non Brahmin of any caste…will MA go against the Rams, the dispensation here…….

[@gosakant]

A great artist brain washed by political appeasement - in the name of doing an impossible thing of attacking a community, which already faces or ignores reservation in education or job. A great tradition escapes from the onslaught by withdrawing from participation by great artists.

[@rukmanivasudevan7341]

This is nothing but a political drama enacted by music acadamy committe and dravidian party due to the popularity of Sri. Annamalais walkathan. Mr. Murali isnot the author of this letter, D M K and hindu Ram are useing Krishna for ellection propaganda.

[@kalrangkalrang1105]

Music Avagdemy stands for rich and sef serving people whose narrow outlook will doom the institution.why only the hindu group thsthachsriysr eho were at.the butter of jokes of learned vifhushaksr thennsli raman.their assption asall being important have prevented my brilliant musicians shunning the sabha altogether.his grand uncle ttk name sprang up in meeting to select tm.krishna for thod year award othe claimants superior to tmk

[@nadhasamarpana]

He is a music politician and not a musician..the purity of carnatic music cannot be polluted by a single person tmk as it is centuries old and it's essence has been digested by all the carnatic music lovers and all the stalwarts of carnatic music..it needs years of practice to master it..and there are may other senior artists like veena gayatri who hve not received this award..Raga sisters are also very particular and would not allow live relay of their concert and now a days they say if someone tries to record and put it in you tube, they have to face legal consequences!....music should not be restricted to small audience..in that way tmk is correct..but it should not be commercialized...how can ego and bhakthi go together?. That s what is happening here!😂 they are fooling the audience with their own tactics

[@harihara1151]

By his own convictions vid tmks vocal outputs are technical combination of sounds and not music which latter is driven by rasasvemotions anubhavas and resultsntvbhaavas . So it is improper to call him Sangita kalanidhi or music kalanidhi. The award could be from a sound academy for the vinyasas of sounds he weaves within the confines of raga without being inspired or reflect a bhava or rasa. I. Short clever construct of shabdas as he himself says in his manodharma lectures. No emotions rasas the award can be named Shabda samuha vinyasa vit not Sangita kalanidhi

[@harihara1151]

Apropose, one may say there can be no sound without the source feeling something in his case the shabda construct rule is so dominant that his varied construct lack feeling or at least it is avyakta and not experienced by the singer. Hence it is not soulful it is technical only. Give him a circus award

[@harihara1151]

In fact music is produced that is fully inspiring feelings even by percussionists they are kalanidhis not technicians

[@harihara1151]

In a nutshell all creatures should enjoy the difference between organized noise and emotional music. See the right value in the art as expressed and reward aptly not wringly

[@sixsigmagopi]

All the rasikas should boycott music academy. They are trying to please dmk govt.

[@sundaramthiags]

He is not Krishna.....he is KAMSA out to destroy our musical traditions for cheaper popularity.

[@simhadrammap2278]

As the any kind or any form of art had its origin in the society itself, but not from the skies... They are the gift to the entire society and all communities whether main streamed a or marginalised... Unfortunately, majority art forms and the academies were grabbed and kept in the grip of brahminicql sections. By supporting Periyar and giving place to the other marginalised and minority communities, Sri T.M Krishna made the greatest attempt to free the chains laid by the prestigeous or highli sections and handed it over the toiling masses, whether they are ready to take it or not. This is the greatest step or the longest leap in cultural fields, and it prominantly shows TM. Krishna Sir's active role here. From the moment of its founding, tha academy selected the first and ever best carnatic musician to the award means it's only Sri T M Krishna Sir , the Best and the most suited for the purpose. Let the other narrow minds be washed away with the wind.

[@shankarkumar.m.s207]

I SUGGEST MADRAS MUSIC ACADAMY DONT AWARDS GIVEN TO T M KRISHNA

[@r.vishwanath4492]

Bhale

[@shankarkumar.m.s207]

MR. T M KRISHNA SPOKEN VERY BAD WORDS AND SPITE ALL MUSICIANS AND ALSO SRI THYAGARAJA SWAMY , IN THIS TIME WHY MADRAS MUSIC ACADAMY MEMBERS IS NOT UNDERSTAND, DOS MEANS D= DICIPLINE DGINITY O= OBIDIENTLY S= SINCERIALITY IS VERY IMPORTANT IN PUBLIC.WORLD

[@srinivasanm.v475]

Ramaya swasti , Ravanaya swasti approach. Be candid and vociferous. Ram and Murali have Condemned the sane voices. They are marxists of the worst sort. My request and advise is, don't use the word periyar and endorse Bigots.

[@rameshv62]

"செபாஸ்டியன் எனும் தோல் வாத்தியங்கள் தயாரிக்கும் கலைஞர் தரும் மிருதங்கத்தை தன் பூஜையறையில் கொண்டு வைக்கும் பார்ப்பனர் ஏன் அந்த செபாஸ்டியன் பூஜை அறைக்குள் அனுமதிக்கவில்லை" என்று கிருஷ்ணா தனது செபஸ்டியன் & சன்ஸ் புத்தகத்தில் கூறுகிறார். முதலிரவுக்கு படுக்கை அறையை அலங்கரித்த அலங்கார நிபுணரை அன்று இரவு அதே அறையில் தங்கச் சொல்வது எவ்வளவு அபத்தமோ அது போல தான் இது.

[@nagarajababu9504]

Music is exploration and experience. Balamuralikrishna and others have with their rich knowledge infused new ragas and kritis after undergoing metamorphic changes in their singing. Music trimurthis no where brought subject of Bhakthi in this lyrics. All was that their emotions on the Lord that transformed into devotion Bhakthi. New age singer TMK is right to cross boundaries to popularize Carnatic Music leaps and bounds. mma us right in recognizing his contribution and honour with Sangeetha Kalanidhi on him. Let's all join hands in making this a big happening as we are all sailing and smiling in life path of devotion. Neither Tyagaraja Dikshitiar Ramadas Purandara das had any notions of this kind Bhakthi in their glorification of God and their lyrics bought awareness in humankind. Let's love all and singing is best form of washing our tons and tons of differences.

[@diwakarmsg2061]

Carnatic musicians are narrow minded. I am a bhramin and know the the contemp we have for others Carnatic music will be extinct soon.

[@srinivaskashyap8903]

BLANKET STATEMENTS LIKE THIS IS UNCALLED FOR .DO U KNOW YESUDAS,MADURAI SOMU SHEIK CHINNA MOULANA ,MADOLIN SRINIVAS,AKC NATARAJAN,ALL NON BRAHMINS,MOSTLY TRAINED BY BRAMIN GURUS,EXTINCT ? NO WAY

[@vak19621962]

T M Krishna will now proudly sing EVR's seruppu malai (u know for whom) song for the sake of pleasing Dengue Malaria Kazhagam (dmk) in the raag Kamavardini and the knowledgeable carnatic music lovers would go on to feel elated over the brigas and alaapana sung by this perverted musician. Nothing wrong with the society either.

[@sambuganavarna3546]

*"தென்னிந்தியாவில் எங்கெல்லாம் புனிதஸ்தலங்கள் இருந்தனவோ அங்கெல்லாம் venereal disease அதிகமாக இருந்தது. இப்படி நோயால் பாதிக்கப்பட்டவர்களில் ஐந்தில் நான்கு பேர் பிராமண பெண்கள்"* *_1924 ஆம் ஆண்டு சென்னை பல்கலை கழகத்தில் பேராசிரியராக பணியாற்றிய Gilbert Slater எழுதிய The Dravidain Element in Indian Culture என்ற புத்தகத்திலிருந்து (pages 110-111)_*

[@paulsundar5300]

No one has ever doubted or commented on his talent in carnatic music. The award is considered purely based on one's talent and one's contribution and development of carnatic music. Even though the carnatic music is dominated by a particular community it is great to see a man from the same community to take the music to the lesser known and underprivileged communities. Let us appreciate his revolutionised ideas and appreciate the people who from the same community had recognized his talent and his societal concern and selected for the award. Regarding his bakthi or devotion to God and music, his unbiased intention was revealed in his writings and debates that he sees God in all and in all people. Surely he stands among Bharthi, and K. Balachandar who have brought social revolution both within and outside their communities in their respective fields. Surely TM Krishna deserves this award.