[TA] Green Cavern (yoshi puzzle by Biob)

[@Dacinthewizard]

00:15 Based on how difficult some of my strats are, I politely disagree. 01:25 This trick is both intended here and used in Armageddon, so the intro message is definitely lying. 01:50 Moving coin :) 02:25 According to Biob, this is the intended fake route, but I don't quite see why it's fake. 02:48 Moving coin :) 02:59 Wait, what caused this one-way filter? 03:05 Here's something that is actually fake: this feather. Also, it totally didn't troll be by looking like a feather block in LM. No, that would never happen. 04:25 I like how these vertical 1 tile gaps are totally useless as a filter. 04:52 This pit is a godsend. No really, it's the source of a lot of items. 06:16 There's a complicated coin block puzzle to the right that gives you 2 mushrooms, but it's been a few months and I kind of forgot how that part works. 07:49 You know you're doing something right when you have enough items to lag the game. 09:13 hfInvisibleRumgedümpel 09:38 Pipes enterable from both sides? Clearly this must be Armageddon. 09:44 I guess I must have an extra p-switch. At least I get to keep it... 10:51 I briefly considered grabbing baby Yoshi to get a third p-switch, but then decided 2 were enough. 13:17 There has to be a better way of setting up this Yoshi, but I think I removed too many coins for that. 14:10 The sprite slot management here is very tight. You need to free up 2 slots for the null sprite spit, but then fill as many slots as possible to despawn a bunch of baby Yoshis later. Also, like half the p-switches here can't be carried on Yoshi. 14:49 neat, just like the MLP series, this room has a preview up top. 15:09 Guess what's going on up there. Hint: It's quite precise. 15:26 To make the rumgedümpel worse, if you got bad sprite slots by accident, you won't be able to grab the p-switches on Yoshi here. 15:43 This would be incredibly annoying if I didn't use a turbo key. 16:42 You can just get the key with offscreen tongue tricks, but Í wanted to add to the history of invisi-Yoshi breaks in this room. 17:19 Initially, I thought I needed an additional Yoshi in a higher sprite slot to hatch later to make it up there, but that just doesn't work due to sprite slots (the extra Yoshi hatches during the first one's hatching animation.) Luckily, this is possible without that. In hindsight, I could have hit the p-switch to delay the the final egg hitting the ground. 20:54 Yeah here I just stopped caring. Why bring baby Yoshi to the right if you can just turbo-A through here. 21:57 Clearly, above the level is the best place to spawn a Reznor. If you do it below and let the fish swim up, it just gets stuck, as Biob might remember from Kruela 2... 22:19 I like how there's an invisible Yoshi you can mount just for sound effects. 22:26 Thank god you can scroll, those 2 high ledges would be really annoying with just pausing.

[@thebiob359]

00:15 I disagree with you disagreeing. 01:25 okay well.... uhhh.. 02:59 hf 03:05 what do you mean it's not a feather block :) 04:25 I don't. 04:52 I don't know how to feel about the amount of springboards in this video. will have to think about that more. 09:13 looks fun. or something like that. 09:38 ??? what pushed you there and how do I fix it thx 10:00 nice fish item swap. Having a p-switch here early really defeats the purpose of the whole first setup. 12:22 nun. 14:49 yeahhhhh that's what that was for. 15:09 I'd guess you stomp the shell to get upwards speed in order to get hit by the glitched p-switch to use the invisible yoshi to warp. No clue how precise any of that would actually be with that dirt up there. 15:43 idk, I usually just use some slowdown and just mash. 16:42 yeah uhhhhhhh i have no excuse for that one. both your comment and what you did in the video. 20:54 okay well at least that one is easy to fix. 21:57 I vaguely remember something about a fish in a wall jumping up but no, I don't remember what you're referencing :< 22:19 fun fact: I didn't know that. I knew about the yoshi staying in the room if you don't dismount from the script but I never noticed the sound when I tested this room. 22:26 yeah, making sure you can scroll with the asm was one of the first things I did. It was very annoying back when you couldn't.

[@TheScar3cro]

1:25 so how does this work and is it viable for a normal human without TAS? 4:52 and how did you dupe all those springboards? I guess it's because they were on Yoshis tongue when it became invisible and when you killed Yoshi, the game considered the Springboard despawned, so it respawned while you still had the original with you? And I assume this works with every persistent sprite? 8:50 so triple grabs on Yoshi work just like that, huh? Seems like I need to relearn a lot before I start building again. 10:41 that's a normal 1Up, right? How did you get the Mushroom from it? Did you itemswap with a real mushroom, that I don't see? 14:38 what causes Bilingua here?

[@Dacinthewizard]

@@TheScar3cro 1:25 When yoshi is off screen, has its tongue out and a new row / column of blocks is drawn on screen, the tongue warps left / right (depending on the level header) for 1 frame. It's doable at 100% speed but might take a few tries. If you do it with an off screen invisi yoshi that turns visible, it's trivial. 4:52 sprite despawns, sprite respawns in a different slot, yoshi becomes visible, eats the originals slot and creates a copy of the sprite (assuming nothing else has spawned into the slot). Works with any item, even non-persistent ones. In fact, if you do bilingua, this should work with any sprite. 8:50 one p-switch + many springs on yoshi is "easy" (the p-switch needs to be in a lower slot that yoshi), 2 p-switches + many springs on yoshi is also possible, but then the slots of the springs matter too. 3+ p-switches / keys / shells / etc. is not possible. 10:41 yes, in 720p60fps there's a frame in the video where you can see a mushroom. 14:38 In the bottom-left corner of the level, there's a baby yoshi growing up from eating a star.