Hedonites of Slaanesh vs Stormcast Eternals | Age of Sigmar Battle Report

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@ryangoss7891
@ryangoss7891 Жыл бұрын
AoS has like...the opposite of codex creep. All the 3rd edition tomes have been either buffed, nerfed, or internally retooled to not only be much better balanced against each other, but much better internally balanced as well. If there's one thing you really *can't* complain about in AoS, it's how they've been handling 3.0 battletomes!
@gordon5082
@gordon5082 Жыл бұрын
Please more of this. Such a delight to watch you play AoS!
@bruhfunnies3441
@bruhfunnies3441 Жыл бұрын
I think comparing a 2nd and 3rd edition book (not to mention a 2nd edition book that was iirc bad in its own time) and calling it codex creep isn't really right. If you look at all the 3rd edition tomes they're fairly well balanced among eachother and the "worst" of them can have a good chance to beat the "best" of them. It's not really codex creep, just that 3rd edition is a different game which these 2nd edition tomes don't really fit into, and once they get their 3rd books they'll be far more on par with the rest of the books.
@OmegaIdiot
@OmegaIdiot Жыл бұрын
Soooo Exacly like 40k's thing.. there GW just nerfs newest stuff to fit old, so when more of new comes out, nerfed "new" doesnt stand a chance
@bruhfunnies3441
@bruhfunnies3441 Жыл бұрын
​@@OmegaIdiot Exactly unlike 40Ks. The issue with 40K is the sheer disparity in book strength in modern books. Codex Necrons vs Codex Tau is a great example. Tau railguns can obliterate anything pretty reliably, vs say... Necron "doomsday" guns which are worse than a leman russ' gun, as an example. The 40K issue is that through the edition each book has been one-upping the other. While in Sigmar each 2nd book brought up to 3rd is on a roughly the same level. The Stormcast Battletome, despite being the first is still as good as say... Beasts of Chaos or Gloomspite, the newest books, as the creep of rules and numbers is just... not there like it has been throughout 9th edition 40K.
@rexkaze774
@rexkaze774 Жыл бұрын
@@bruhfunnies3441 ohya 40k Codex Creep is horror and age of Sigmar is the balance book cycle I have see from GW
@Miki-hk6vy
@Miki-hk6vy Жыл бұрын
@@bruhfunnies3441 I was thinking of getting into AoE, hope it stays that way
@Enballgroda1
@Enballgroda1 Жыл бұрын
You can have both a Stormcast unique enhancement and a galletian champion unique enhancement, Chef. There's no limit on different kinds of unique enhancements. You get 1 of everything.
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh good to know, way I was reading it was a Unique Enhancement is like a Spell or Artefact, so their own category which might have multiple 'pools' to pick from. Next time!
@Enballgroda1
@Enballgroda1 Жыл бұрын
@@thepastrychef8014 Enhancements are a bit messy! In the Idoneth book for instance you can get two mount traits for free... just because they are on different lists. It's a whole thing.
@onemisterfranko
@onemisterfranko Жыл бұрын
No pressure on Fletecher, he's a great painter he just needs the time I love seeing all his cool stuff! He'll get around to the new shiny kits in good time!
@miguelvaquero5063
@miguelvaquero5063 10 ай бұрын
Amazing report! When we would have more of these gorgeous aos reports?
@ianmacleod4486
@ianmacleod4486 Жыл бұрын
I remember a time when I had to think up something to do on Saturday mornings. But that’s hasn’t been an issue for years now. Another classic.
@steinanderson
@steinanderson Жыл бұрын
what an adorable little creature, Jinx is kinda cute too.
@Chevalerezk
@Chevalerezk Жыл бұрын
Jinx! Chef! A fantastic lineup! Always happy to see the Jinx in front of the cam!
@amazinghayes1
@amazinghayes1 Жыл бұрын
A save isn't just an armour save, it's a save. Blissbarbs getting a 5 is fine because they are dancers, dodgers and such with unnatural reflexes and fetishism for pain due to their worship of the god of decadence. While a stormcast boy might be armour clad as all eight points he also will be slow and cumbersome.
@TheLaensman
@TheLaensman Жыл бұрын
Chef - “I don’t need your help, I have long arms, unlike you.” *sad Jinx noises*
@Cadian101st8
@Cadian101st8 Жыл бұрын
I've started collecting Stormcast because of you guys.
@mikewarden5777
@mikewarden5777 Жыл бұрын
Great game you two. I loved seeing the new and wacky battleplan from the most recent GHB.
@neem377
@neem377 Жыл бұрын
Pure speculation on the Armour creep thing; If you look at books from the last Edition Rend was a lot rarer and at some point during last edition rend 1 became more common( compare Cities and Ossiarch for example to current books), design wise your supposed to use the CP economy to counter this but it still had some units dying at a rate I don't believe they were designed to hence everyone getting some save buffs to make the reliance on CP not total
@javier133
@javier133 Жыл бұрын
What color scheme u use for stormcast? I'm in love
@RareRiddemz
@RareRiddemz Жыл бұрын
2:08:40 that would actually be a cool rule - upon the Keeper of Secrets being slain, on a 1-3 you roll 1D6, on a 4-6 you roll 2D6 and that many demonettes emerge (or something like that).
@OldWitchDoctor
@OldWitchDoctor Жыл бұрын
3+ saves have been pretty rare in AoS until rather recently.
@CLAREROMVoid
@CLAREROMVoid Жыл бұрын
Please, more AOS matches! Sylvaneth, Kharadon, Fyreslayers, Cities of Sigma, Lumineth... so many other factions to explore!
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Жыл бұрын
Alas we don't own any of those armies yet 🙂
@CLAREROMVoid
@CLAREROMVoid Жыл бұрын
@@tabletoptactics And your "yet" gives me hope ehhehe. I love how dedicated you are to the rules and your camera work, trying to show all the match. As a person new in AOS and 40K I love how you guys make the videos. I wish you all success!
@dmeep
@dmeep Жыл бұрын
Today i learned that Slaneesh does a pretty good Chef impression, i wonder if the lord of excess can do beard and spider aswell....
@derekoswick6599
@derekoswick6599 Жыл бұрын
Great battle, love the AoS content! 5:49 - I'll bet Fletcher's painting cue is chock full of Tzeentch daemons for Chef, surely? Which limits Sigmar's tabletop influence....Just As Planned.
@Raziel-of-Astora
@Raziel-of-Astora Жыл бұрын
Eh, not everything in terms of Saves needs to be represented by armour, I think. A monster has a tough scaly hide, the zippy leatherboys of slaanesh might have supernatural reflexes and agility, etc. Besides, the Prosecutors with shields have better saves, so there you go. (even though its baked in with the javelin prosecutors since they dont have weapon options like the hammer dudes, which means you can all out defense them for a +2 save.)
@mathieuboe9128
@mathieuboe9128 Жыл бұрын
That "Moi" caught me off guard but the pronunciation was absolutely spot on. Kudos ! :D Back to the video, this looks promising !
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
😅
@dote9079
@dote9079 Жыл бұрын
I feel like monsters already overperform in aos - the damage splash, the fact that you cant have the second rank out of range, the monstrous rampages, that infantry squads essentially bracket much sooner than monsters do - that a -1 to wound would feel too much
@herowesley1804
@herowesley1804 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy these AOS Battle reports!
@opesam
@opesam Жыл бұрын
Battletome Bloat...?
@EinheriV
@EinheriV 11 ай бұрын
Def agree with the wounding monsters at a -1 thing
@sterlingnorthum3911
@sterlingnorthum3911 Жыл бұрын
All hail The Great Jinx 👏
@oxymoronified
@oxymoronified Жыл бұрын
Stellar content as always!
@hopefulmonster
@hopefulmonster Жыл бұрын
Battle tome bloat?
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
This works!
@tomcallmusic4295
@tomcallmusic4295 Жыл бұрын
Bloat, Chef. Battletome Bloat.
@sterlingnorthum3911
@sterlingnorthum3911 Жыл бұрын
I have a new favorite podcast to watch. But that being said, mind you the Battle Board does book thematic butt from the overhead view you can't tell where the Miniatures are hardly at all😢
@Dylan-er9ji
@Dylan-er9ji Жыл бұрын
Very purple and gold battle report
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
I love gooooooldddd
@PumpkinJack88
@PumpkinJack88 8 ай бұрын
The field looks so cool.
@alangodfrey9504
@alangodfrey9504 Жыл бұрын
Very fun batrep! 😊
@shendu1337
@shendu1337 Жыл бұрын
remember that the player going second can use 2 heroic actions instead of 1 with the new ghb.
@tailssonicteam1604
@tailssonicteam1604 Жыл бұрын
Jinx and chef in a battle report together? My favourite!!
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@Nero24200
@Nero24200 Жыл бұрын
I kinda like that the saves for models in AOS is slightly less. I remember old 7th ed 40k and how frustrating it was to deal with marines - a 3+ means a 33% chance of failing the save but it always felt kinda pointless to shot at them with small arms fire. You pretty much only shot them at them on the off chance something might go through as a bonus, rather than actively expecting it to reduce their numbers. AOS toned it back a little by making 4+ the base for heavier armour (Which is closer to old WHF anyway, where plate armour was only 4+). It'd be far less of an issue if the average Rend values weren't slowly going up though.
@FerreusVir
@FerreusVir Жыл бұрын
I agree. I also enjoy the overall lack of "HAHAHAHA YOU DIDNT HURT ME" mechanics that permeates 40k currently.
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
I think my main issue with it is its weirdly easy to get 2+ Svs nowadays, compared to when it started with 4+ being pretty great as you say
@GaspardSavoureux01
@GaspardSavoureux01 Жыл бұрын
Yeah mystic shield and the defense strat and most of the game is 2+. Sad Nighthaunt noises haha
@claysimpkins7490
@claysimpkins7490 Жыл бұрын
@@GaspardSavoureux01 that's only for one unit a turn though.
@lukecook402
@lukecook402 Жыл бұрын
So with the way models wound other models, at first I was very much on board with Chef's mindset that it's strange that a Stormcast could wound both a huge monster and infantry with the same roll. But what I've come to realize is that particular model or unit has trained to hit and wound things either that effectively or poorly. So like Clanrats wont be able to effectively hit something and much less wound their target because they aren't martially trained trained like a Stormvermin.
@daemonnexusknight
@daemonnexusknight Жыл бұрын
I really love Jinx's energy, and she is playing one of my armies! Huzzah! :D We all love Chef as well, so overall a great BatRep to watch!
@conner-stevens
@conner-stevens Жыл бұрын
Need to get Mr. Chef a Karazai or Krondys, and a Stardrake :)
@MechanicalGibbon
@MechanicalGibbon Жыл бұрын
The in-house silly voice is so real haha
@Kolbjorn24
@Kolbjorn24 Жыл бұрын
Any disciples of tzeentch coming to the channel?
@charliebonta4932
@charliebonta4932 Жыл бұрын
Best way to start a Saturday!!!
@Leopaints222
@Leopaints222 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful armies!!
@keithrogers6876
@keithrogers6876 Жыл бұрын
Some of the numbers on Stormcast warscrolls can seem odd. I believe some units fall victim to there being way too many units that are very similar, so the rules writers try to make them different..
@bakuchidancer
@bakuchidancer Жыл бұрын
The difference in armour saves is pretty big. 3up is lot bigger than 4up etc.(and 6+ is essentially useless) Also disagree on bt creep. If it was so bad why aren't tournaments dominated by newer books? (and stormcast hate old books? He's facing previous edition book...)
@erictrudel1164
@erictrudel1164 Жыл бұрын
Great game!
@TrebleAmp
@TrebleAmp Жыл бұрын
Chef was in a weird mood that day! And in no way is that depressing! :)
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
I usually am tbf 😅
@TrebleAmp
@TrebleAmp Жыл бұрын
Ha!!
@Qshafe
@Qshafe Жыл бұрын
Jynx was forgetting her Keeper of Secrets' Dark Temptation ability. In round 3, that could have been the two damage she needed for her Battle Tactic.
@ben10sofie
@ben10sofie Жыл бұрын
To be fair, it was the first time they got to use it! buahaha
@pieisnice9
@pieisnice9 Жыл бұрын
I've just got to 1:50:00 and I've got to say the wound mechanics in sigmar the main thing (outside of lingering End times salt) that has really put me off getting into it. It just doesn't feel thematic to me that things are equally good at wounding a clanrat and and a t rex. I'm also the kind of person that misses comparative WS in 40k for the same reason though. I get it speeds the game up but the fantasy is important and Abbadon the Despolier, a man who killed a clone of his own primarch in combat, getting bonked on the head by a sister of battle with a stick 50% of the time does not feed into the fantasy for me.
@zeroa6
@zeroa6 Жыл бұрын
Lol! Awesome Battle Report! I hope to see more Stormcasts 😁
@richardwilliams5762
@richardwilliams5762 Жыл бұрын
Chef you look baked AF 😂
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Curse my lingering eye problems
@richardwilliams5762
@richardwilliams5762 Жыл бұрын
Haha just remind me of my own eyes when baked 😅 love the channel keep it up guys 👍
@JK-nx1ww
@JK-nx1ww Жыл бұрын
​@@thepastrychef8014 as someone who also has lingering eye problems and is often accused of being hungover I sympathize
@corvaxblackfeather6529
@corvaxblackfeather6529 Жыл бұрын
Love those Fiends, they are one of the most 'demon' looking units i have seen so far ^^ Edit : Am sure that dying by those 'Songs' the Keepers sing is kinda like that black drssed guy in the first Indiana Jones Movie ... with all the Face melting and such ^^
@falsehero2001
@falsehero2001 Жыл бұрын
Battletomb Bloat?
@Dont3Z
@Dont3Z Жыл бұрын
AOS, much love!
@HistoLabRat
@HistoLabRat Жыл бұрын
Battle Tome bound
@nicksurename5392
@nicksurename5392 Жыл бұрын
Good video, but man slaanesh rules are underwhelming, can't wait for their new book.
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Shame cos they're so cool. Soon hopefully!
@TorJakobsen
@TorJakobsen Жыл бұрын
Am I the only who would have let Slaanesh go first battleround 2? Most of Slaaneshs army is stuck in combat with all objectives inactive. Limited mobility and a chance that none of the objectives become active. Love the energy and the banter❤😂 I do really enjoy your battlereports on AoS
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Welp, given its the first time playing the mission so the nuances of it are unknown, I'd still take the turn 😅
@TorJakobsen
@TorJakobsen Жыл бұрын
@@thepastrychef8014 I havent played the mission yet, but I think its a matter of assessing the situation, and setting your army up for a double turn. In my limited experiance with the game, its all about double turns. No matter the mission Slaanesh ran against your wall and it held. You had a great oppotunity to double turn your opponent Sorry about the rambling. Easter to be on sideline giving advice than actually playing and see openings. 😅😏
@claysimpkins7490
@claysimpkins7490 Жыл бұрын
@@TorJakobsen I and many other think the opposite, the game doesn't rely on the double turn as much as some people think it does. It can definitely help with certain armies but it's not be all end all getting the double turn unless that's all you're playing towards.
@TorJakobsen
@TorJakobsen Жыл бұрын
@@claysimpkins7490 never said it relied on double turn. I said it's about setting yourself in a situation where you can afford to give away the initiative since there are many advantages in going second - ability to control objectives, more cmd pts etc.
@MagicAlfi
@MagicAlfi Жыл бұрын
i dont think thats how depravity points work if a unit loses a model i believe thats a point as well.
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Yes that's how we played it?
@jonathanhaynes9914
@jonathanhaynes9914 Жыл бұрын
Good luck have fun team.
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Always!
@scotiansaint5679
@scotiansaint5679 Жыл бұрын
Jinx is cute as a button. Her laugh reminds me of the fairy’s in Donkey Kong 64 (in a good way!) Great game guys!
@Basil_Ghothickovitch
@Basil_Ghothickovitch 5 ай бұрын
❤‍🔥To prove my loyalty and passion for Warhammer, I will put the Like to each of the 22 videos in your Age of Sigmar playlist right NOW!!!
@Revdjames
@Revdjames Жыл бұрын
Sigmar - yesssssss Tabletop doing sigmar 2x yessssssssssssssssss
@Big_Deck_Energy
@Big_Deck_Energy Жыл бұрын
Now that you guys are doing fantasy, you’re just a tiny sidestep away from Blood Bowl!!
@ThaBenMan
@ThaBenMan Жыл бұрын
Battletome Bloat
@yugiohculture1
@yugiohculture1 Жыл бұрын
MORE AOS PLZ :)
@delinquentgod
@delinquentgod Жыл бұрын
Where codexs creep, Battletomes bound.
@mrwrench3131
@mrwrench3131 Жыл бұрын
Battletome Belligerence! @chef
@davidloftus4741
@davidloftus4741 Жыл бұрын
Battletome Build-up
@nemo-no-name
@nemo-no-name Жыл бұрын
Go Jinx, toliko. Show the tin cans true excess!
@thomasalbion1834
@thomasalbion1834 Жыл бұрын
Battletome bloat. You're welcome :D
@newgamer85
@newgamer85 Жыл бұрын
Battle Tome bulge. Battle Tome bloats.
@thepastrychef8014
@thepastrychef8014 Жыл бұрын
Bloat I think is the one 😅
@HilmarG93
@HilmarG93 Жыл бұрын
So sad that the regular stormcast eternals are so boring, and then they have the most awesome drakes!
@thelostone2694
@thelostone2694 Жыл бұрын
DRAGONS!!!!!
@anteaterable
@anteaterable Жыл бұрын
Battletome bloat?
@87BMr
@87BMr Жыл бұрын
Jinx is cool
@douglsea7853
@douglsea7853 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way you guys can help stand up to gw and there price rises or that’s not your thing
@GaspardSavoureux01
@GaspardSavoureux01 Жыл бұрын
You know that inflation is a thing, right? My groceries are like 20$ higher a week since Covid ended, so it's kind of normal that miniatures are a little bit more pricey 😉
@noirceuillesombre3472
@noirceuillesombre3472 Жыл бұрын
💫💫💫💫💫
@adamray7249
@adamray7249 Жыл бұрын
Love Sigmar / Fantasy because personally I think 40K / Sci-Fi is lame.. BUT, sadly the Sigmar / Fantasy rules are far from perfect
@kurzy124
@kurzy124 Жыл бұрын
I grow tired of tons of battle reports for sigmar and so bad battle reports of 40k (eaters vs ultramarines with leader that doesn't even want to play them). Shame.
@claysimpkins7490
@claysimpkins7490 Жыл бұрын
I find their aos batreps much more interesting than their 40k batreps. Much more fun going on, and it seems to have a bit more thinking involved imo.
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