Tabor Has Some Serious Competition

[@TimelessVRyt]

alpha should be open to everyone now. also this game will only push tabor to be better now that there is finally competition. before, they were literally the only vr extraction shooter that was good so they could take their time with things discord.gg/contractorsshowdown

[@JayceRush]

Can I add you on exfilzone pls

[@mikemcfiggus8996]

yea can we add u

[@mikemcfiggus8996]

@@JayceRush but ill add u if u want

[@JayceRush]

@@mikemcfiggus8996bet year is jay34vr

[@JayceRush]

Cap the j though

[@joerou8483]

for me, someone who doesnt play tarbor or contractors, this video was way more interesting and entertaining then any tabor videos ive seen recently

[@wrenchk3827]

they just updated it too😂

[@doublecup2369]

Agreed

[@silentscaredwolf]

I also agree and I do play tabor lol

[@RogueMandoGaming]

If this is just the alpha i'm scared for tabor once the full release is out because of how fleshed this game is already

[@chill_octopus_8553]

i hate to say it but this beats tabor in my mind. i just started playing tarkov and realizing how far tabor has to go before it comes close to tarkov. then this appears out of nowhere and does everything i wanted tabor to. i love tabor and the devs but tabors days are numbered

[@spitfireGamesVR]

not only that but now thanks to an absolute G, Tarkov has its own VR mod if your pc is beefy enough

[@melodic1941]

Plus you get a battle royal mode along with this extraction mode I’d see no upside to getting tabor over contractors showdown

[@Cevap05]

@@spitfireGamesVRwhat’s it called

[@Bourotte25]

Well they made a decent shooter followed by a dogshit battle royale by stealing everyone's concepts. I wish them the best for this extraction shooter cause competition is the best way to improve both games but I have little hope.

[@MajedCT]

Yeah same thought at first but then I found it's by caveman studios, this game isn't living long, it'll have more cheatere, less updates, devs that don't listen, etc, hope to see they prove me wrong, I'd rather wait for the new company to eventually make the VR TARKOV than trust caveman studios to already have one.

[@JoeModz]

Finally a extraction shooter for VR without all the Tabor Jank™ also known as a skill issue. I'm starting to believe the dev's just mean themselves are the ones with the issue of skills to tackle the jank.

[@Blujustice]

I've been saying that. Combat waffle is the only one with a skill issue.

[@GOOSEYGOGGLESVR]

That term really erks me, it goes against a core value of what makes good design. Doesn't matter if you're making a vacuum cleaner or a computer game, good design is when things are so clear that your grandma can operate it without there being a learning curve. Every time they say skill issue, what they literally mean is ah that's a bit of bad design.

[@JimmyNuisance]

It's the reason I never got into Tabor. I've tried so many times, but the game just feels like an internal alpha and has done so for years. If they actually added a lot of content to it I would be more OK with the bugs, but the development process is hella slow and there's just no reason why it should be this buggy. Also, like just the base mechanics also feel so bad still. Reloading and weapon handling in Tabor is amongst the worst in all VR shooters. People have accepted Tabor with all its flaws because there's nowhere else to go. I think that's why the devs don't care about polishing anything and rather just started 2 more games to develop at the same time, also two games that are alone in their genres and won't see much competition.. Seems like this is their MO. Find an untapped niche, make a jank-riddled game, KACHING profits. I really can not stand that dev.. No respect for their customers at all.

[@lemon5355]

@@JimmyNuisance what..?? my guy, tabor has like one of the best weapon handling and reloading in a vr game? AND grim and silent north aren't being heavily developed currently, pretty sure they both have 1 guy each working on them, tabor is their main focus, and tabor does have it's issues, but it most certainly isnt as bad as you're making it out to be, when was the last time you played tabor?

[@corleonescorner]

You can attach helmets and rolled up armor to certain bags in this game. Also, you can grab armor and helmets off of scavs but I think you may have to use both hands

[@TimelessVRyt]

YES i forgot about this. amazing feature

[@mikemcfiggus8996]

@@TimelessVRyt found some armor, didnt know how to grab it. died anyways, but good to know!

[@tyroneOctaviousbarnacleJones]

you can also scan armor and helmets to see the protection levels

[@majuleznfs]

And in the hideout to the left of the rack where the junk box is there is a mannequin to repair your amour.

[@Veryconfusedman]

Looks great, the bunker gives me nostalgia over the old one in tabor

[@regretz4276]

real

[@stealthy9673]

Look up hunt showdown one could say it is horror

[@Kryptiic_Vr]

You are right about the saving system it is WAY better than tabor but going to the market and back doesn't do anything because the market is in the same "map or level" as the hideout because there's stairs you can go up to get to the market

[@TimelessVRyt]

Trueeee

[@M0r1-3]

For a game/game mode thats in alpha yet already has more content and better gameplay then ghost of Tabor even compared to when Tabor first started is insane I wish I could buy this game

[@EzitzForyou]

Tabor is gonna have to start working overtime to get on this level

[@M0r1-3]

@@EzitzForyou For real even then this game has more straight up tarkov stuff if tabor starts doing that it will feel like they copying not just tarkov ofc but contractors

[@Niko1813]

@@M0r1-3you can get the game for free

[@die4ever8]

@@M0r1-3who cares if tabor copies contractors… or contractors copies tabor. I guess by this analogy they’re both copying tarkov.. if ur going to be mad be mad their copying tarkov.

[@M0r1-3]

@@die4ever8 no one said anything about being mad and yes in a way It would be copying tarkov but it's not going to be the case if there start doing similar things then contractors it would mean there only doing such and such being contractors did such and such

[@babyj4571]

Pro tip lol in your bunker, press the left controller menu button and the you can use the laser/line thing to click on all the venders options

[@TimelessVRyt]

Got it thank you

[@David_Slusher69]

28:45 "our journey to victory has begun death to the mpla" ahh music

[@that_other_guy_2957]

If this game can stay on a good track, and tabor takes a hint and steps up their game a bit, i can see myself playing both every night!

[@WikiPeoples]

This is insane! The devs are so good. I am beyond excited to get into this as it looks like an ACTUAL Tarkov in VR rather than the rather poor attempt in Tabor

[@WilliamArd-hf6fq]

Loved the metro awakening series!!! Although it was kinda confusing. Your doing a great job being consistent, keep it up

[@CalebDunker]

I hope they make the gunshot sound much more realistic

[@TimelessVRyt]

Same some of them sound pretty good tho

[@goldenninja007df]

They need to use the gun shots from insurgency sandstorm... so immersive

[@Kmongaloid]

Was waiting for your reaction! Truly almost makes tabor seem like a kids game, it’s hopefully gonna make them try a bit more! Also you can take the loot off the scavs body! Even put gear on your bags, I was hoping to see your reaction on that in this video! But definitely wanna see you play some more!

[@TheFluffyDemonDoggie]

Hopefully, this serves as the push Tabor needs to become better than ever. Seeing a competitor that’s not only cheaper (Tabor is £20.99 compared to Contractors Showdown at £15.49 as of this post) but also already has more features in its alpha stage should be a wake-up call for the Tabor devs. If they don’t work to improve the game by adding more features, players may shift to the cheaper, more feature-rich alternative.

[@gtx_havoc]

This will be interesting competition for tabor and will hopefully inspire both companies to make the "better" extraction vr shooter and it seems this also might help people with content boredom and could help freshin up tabor and contractors update schedules

[@tzav]

Literally every VR video: *Starts with hands doing a "welcome" gesture*

[@TimelessVRyt]

Idk what else to do my brain just does it

[@lmsati]

28:59 bro casually doged a bullet 💀

[@Ravskarr]

I want to see a extraction shooter thats also a horror game. I have no idea how that would work but I think It could be a cool idea

[@Ravskarr]

Kind of like tarkov where you bring gear back to your base, but its a horror game

[@wwooozyy]

​@@Ravskarr jus make tarkov with like a skitzo update or smth

[@eggsbenedict8321]

It's called into the Radius lol. It's scary, stressful, and extremely realistic especially with weapon cleaning.

[@knowledgeafterdusk9572]

@@eggsbenedict8321 heavy on the stressful part lol

[@ehrenbruderkylo9646]

yea i think into the radius is a perfect match best extraction shooter in vr i’ve played

[@aarongarcia2911]

In my mind this was the only review I was waiting for. Glad to see it pushing this niche of a game forward. Even though the walking "might" be slower. The sliding makes the movement seem better. The fact that the Ai isnt IA and actually Ai, means that it will feel like a meaningful gunfight everytime

[@colonialkatana]

I love tabor, they are definitely going in the right direction with the new update and bug fixes but I am jealous of all the features and how clean contracts feels. I never thought I would be hating on tabor but cws really has to step it up now

[@Chris-oi2hv]

the AP change will just straight kill the game and the TTK, timmys will always be timmys and run naked.

[@RokasKajus]

@@Chris-oi2hv yeah, it wont ap is way too op

[@lbmember4637]

Tabor has wrong priorities, they keep releasing new useless guns and DLC instead of fixing bugs and making the game look better

[@digitalfighterpilot4060]

CWS has been needing to step it up. They still haven't figured out gunstock calibration (at least the last time I played like 3 months ago). I like Tabor, and hopefully having competition will bring that game up.

[@Combo562]

@@Chris-oi2hvthat would just give more reason to run kitted 🤦

[@ytho3099]

Bro I love that you put super Mario galaxy music. My favorite game as a kid

[@selfdetriment]

same, used to love playing it with my cousins. that game seems like a whole new world as a kid.

[@CooperMelfi]

Never really understood the love for the tabor especially it’s been out for so long and literally has bare minimum gameplay features. Finally we can get a high quality extraction shooter. I always liked contractors over tabor so its really exciting

[@BigFloppaTTV]

glad tabor finally has competition this will definitely make them step up their game.

[@Zanooz]

Yeah yaknow i got alot of love for tabor, as frustrating and janky as it can be... But this looks like its already off to a much better start. Ill be hoping into this come the weekend! Great video!

[@theofficialmariogamer9943]

A timeless UPLOAD. It almost feels like a tabor update😮😮😮

[@jonathansuniga3522]

you really got a good choice of combat and casual music for your gameplay

[@chriswoody1967]

Looks amazing cant wait to get in, please do more videos on it.

[@TeaGuyTodd]

First guy to point out that this is not a straight rip from Tabor and that its inspired mostly from Tarkov

[@trille_boi]

i love how realistic the gripping on guns is i love how it looks two handing the m9

[@pbandmayosandwich3208]

I played metro (the map), killed like three people, and got out with like thirty vials of morphine. 10/10 I’m addicted now

[@Yoloswaggins69420]

To morphine?

[@pbandmayosandwich3208]

@@Yoloswaggins69420yeah? And opium too

[@Reidswartz]

What is the discord called

[@ThisIsNubuik]

@pbandmayosandwich3208 real

[@MrVangboi05]

I'm going to try this game too. Thanks for testing it. It looks really polished for a alpha

[@ryanbecoolin6116]

The game is in Alpha and despite its smallish bugs and kinks still looks better then Tabor. I think the graphics are better imo. I’d love to see more of this over Tabor, think it would be a good fresh start to see how far the game can come especially with your fan base behind it.

[@_kwak]

Big potential 😎 so far the features seem quite rich with the typical alpha bugs (a la the lighter 😂). Always good to have competition in the space and well see what each dev team does in response to ine another!

[@ealep0314]

Something I think would be awesome is if there were also durability for certain weapon parts and you could order/loot parts and customize your weapons, like different upper & lower receivers, grips, etc. with different pros, cons, and durability values. This is a suggestion for pretty much any extraction looter-shooter, or even other extraction shooters in general, like Into the Radius. Also something cool would be the ability to farm vegetables and cook food (and/or low-level medicinal components, maybe cook up stimulants that can increase running speed, weight limitations, etc.) with a stove that consumes some type of gas, like propane or butane.

[@AlibabaIsHeree]

Can’t wait to try it myself tonight! It’s been looking pretty interesting from what I’ve seen so far!

[@lordhades9736]

I love this. It has so much of the details and features of Tarkov but in VR. I thought Tabor was great, now I can't wait to try this.

[@KingDeddy01]

Performance seems really good for an alpha, If your enjoying it keep going! Looks better than Tabor!

[@1TrashConnoisseur]

I don’t mind these devs taking a lot from tarkov necessarily, I wish they would do more of their own take on extraction shooters though. This may be the itch scratched that tabor isn’t getting, especially in terms of the body condition system and whatnot. This game is looking to be a strong competitor and I’m interested to see what Tabor’s team will respond with content wise. Competition in this space will make both games better. For the effort put into this project, pulling a ton of models and even the map from their other game, as long as this isn’t outrageously priced when it goes full release I will be excited to pick it up, clearly the still are early in development still. Great content timeless, can’t wait to see more.

[@S3XMAN4MAYOR]

If you own contractors showdown you will get this mode free

[@lolpl0000]

this looks so sick. IT NEEDS TO BE ON STEAM!! i know its coming but cmon, a quest only alpha.. i want to play this so bad.

[@JustCallMeSpyYT]

Its on steam what are u talking about?

[@lolpl0000]

@JustCallMeSpyYT no it isnt. the alpha is only available to meta users. showdown itself IS available on steam. exfil zone isnt.

[@T1n0rg]

@JustCallMeSpyYT alpha test only on meta

[@JustCallMeSpyYT]

@@T1n0rg o

[@cason5791]

For once us quest players aren't the ones that have to wait (Fr though I hope it comes to you on steam soon)

[@Waylon-games]

I’m so glad you’re finally checking this out!!

[@jpeavr]

Graphics might not be the super realistic type, but I really like the art style!

[@TimelessVRyt]

I really love the metro map graphics, the outdoor maps could use a little work tho!

[@dbrad4524]

Looks great, and I’m sure you’ll be an exfillzone legend when it pops off fully 👌

[@IsaiahCruz-g1b]

BRO THEY’VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A FEW MONTHS!? that’s crazy I thought with how polished it is it was something they have been working on behind the scenes for a couple years wow that’s amazing

[@Gorillaaidsvr]

You are my favorite KZbinr and you’re videos are one of the only thing I can do because because I hurt my knee pretty bad and so keep doing what you do because you are great at it and you video are great.

[@stp5477]

I was always betting on contractors making an extraction shooter, glad I was right. Also great to see how detailed this game is in ALPHA. Insane how it’s already leagues ahead of Tabor.

[@Steviewonderbread22]

The SM Sunshine soundtrack is legit my favorite part of this video.

[@mochatugboat1914]

You can bring bundles of ammo and reload mags in raid. It is very satisfying and actually possible to do with wanting to kill yourself like in tabor. You can also store helmets and armor on most bags. There is also leaning in the game. You can take the armor off of scavs. (I am writing this as I watch the video so I may include things that are already said mb)

[@gew43]

this feels like its mostly gonna be something i play when tabor pisses me off. contractors showdown the best feeling guns with reloads and animations so i think that alone gives tabor a run for its money but i think tabors piss yourself factor is what's gonna keep it different and better in some ways. i feel like a lot of the choices in showdowns exfil mode tho are so good. like having shops in your base thank fuck. but tabor will always give a unique feeling

[@Doc_BBX]

This is correct This won’t be a tabor killer, they will coexist and both have their positives and negatives

[@gew43]

@@Doc_BBX indeed

[@magiman7638]

yeah I thought there would never be another game that gave me that oh shit factor better than tabor until I played tarkov on my pc, the health system and the way it fucks yuu over plus the scavs actually being a threat makes the oh shit factor ten fold, and now that I’ve tried contractors exfil too I can say forme personally at least that it definitely brings the oh shit factor way more than tabor, uu’ll see it for uurself once yuu get try the game too, yuu can actually still sign up to play the game early right now

[@gew43]

@@magiman7638 lol i will try it

[@gew43]

@@magiman7638 it will most likely be a situation where i play exfil when tabor pisses me off and tabor when exfil pisses me off lol

[@dankmemequeen9581]

aint no way, i forgot about ur vids, and now u get recommended to me, hell yeah! i love ur content man, this vr stuff is ffire

[@Doggo.11]

been waiting for your video on this game. I was blown away my first time loading into the bunker.

[@GGTGamer69]

bro is single handedly making me want to get a vr so i can play this game and tabor. Great video tho, hope to see more videos on this!

[@magiman7638]

yuu can use the little antenna that sticks out of the map module thing to identify items, it’ll tell you the damage and pen stats of different ammos and also tell you the remaining durability of armor and medical items

[@digitalfighterpilot4060]

I've been saying for awhile (in the old GOT discord suggestions) that as soon as another decent VR extraction shooter drops GOT would likely be in trouble. I have yet to try the new game mode in Contractors showdown, but I am excited to play it.

[@AbenteuerSchatzsuche]

Tested it today aswell and was as impressed as you! Is already known when it is scheduled to get released on steam? Wanna play it with VD. I think if tabor is not stepping up the development from now on they have a huge problem, contractors is actually pretty neat. I Iove all the things they enhanced , things tabor did weird/wrong For example: attach stuff to the backoack, backpack collision so things cant fall through, bunker already better, i saw someone player leaning...so they even got this already?! I liked the way you reload magazines by hand , its a better way then bullet by bullet All the extra amount of items, scav runs, you know ...all that tarkov stuff :P I love tabor, played it from the beginning and got the founding fathers pack ... but they pretty much "rested" after the first success,atleast it felt like that ...now they have a huge problem , they now have to deliver if they dont wanna lose the playerbase

[@Lobbytime1988]

9:04 "I have no idea what these things are" there is a poster right there that tells you what the meds do.

[@TimelessVRyt]

Yeah but im dumb so the poster doesnt matter

[@jordanprince6206]

I like how you anticipate the flinch like in real life lmao.

[@daddyspartanvr]

They have the sacred Delicious Sausage. Tabor is in trouble.

[@TimelessVRyt]

The sausage is 🔥 Tabor should be okay as long as they pick up the pace a bit. This is their first and only good competitor so far so we will see

[@datboyvon9688]

This gave me something new to watch while I eat

[@SmokeyGrizzly-z1k]

Just been getting into vr, tabor I love it but I suck, still learning. It’s lonely though. I have no team mates

[@Immemor1al]

I'm sorry for Tabor, but Contractors taking every shooter genre. The amount of effort they put into EVERY LITTLE THING is insane and I can't say they don't deserve the #1 title. Even for an Alpha, content wise, they already have Tabor beat, and that is insane to me.

[@mikeyrowlands8551]

Another tip you can just put your bag in the deposit bin and scroll through selecting the items you want to sell.

[@TimelessVRyt]

very useful thank u

[@mikeyrowlands8551]

@@TimelessVRyt any time brother

[@mikeyrowlands8551]

@@TimelessVRyt we should run some raids some time

[@die4ever8]

@@mikeyrowlands8551😂😂😂😂

[@Dooquid]

I have been playing the alpha non stop, I like Tabor but exfil is just taking the cake. Love the content timeless can't wait to see you play some more

[@kevsavage1901]

Yooooo this is crazy how much better it is.

[@jcozyyt]

Getting really tired of Tabor monetizing everything and not adding the depth I was hoping for. This looks promising, thanks for covering it!

[@King_Vinnie_B]

I swear caveman studios is the Activision of the vr world. they just keep making bangers

[@maximuspenismus8139]

yesss! i absolutely would love to see more!!!

[@nagisagaming2608]

as someone whos going to buy vr after christmas im EXTREMELY looking forward to trying these games and the other games u play long time subscriber btw love ur vids keep up the great work

[@ShadowViper6432]

Really liked how you out call of duty ghosts menu music in

[@esbenviinblad8008]

You know you can throw stuff in storage box throw box in the bin next to terminal and deliver to task and it will take item from box same for backpacks ;)

[@neotim5]

Cant be worse than Ghost of Tabor with all thier bugs, jank and sellout devs. I dont mind them leaning more into the original as both games just try to be the VR version of the flatscreen version, at least Contractors dosnt try to act like its something original. Backpack collision alone is such an upgrade, its gonna be my main VR Tarkov for sure.

[@GoTHaunted_01]

I have been playing it a good bit and can say that it definitely has potential if it is focused on by caveman. I will definitely be playing this and tabor though, and competition is only good for games. Something to keep each one to push. I've seen the "One game needs to die" attitude people take and it is honestly kind of dumb. More games to play is a good thing. I have never been a fan of contractors gunplay though so that itself doesn't do for me but it is still pretty good.

[@icarushasfallen4082]

Hey the red cross on that medbox contravenes the Geneva convention btw. not really a war crime by the devs but close enough.

[@huh_brandon869]

I dont think i gotta say but AIM FOR THE LEGS, with the break system rounds like RIP will shred through anyone if your close enough

[@RokasKajus]

Wow im surprised i thought id hate it but this looks fun, i think id play both tabor and this

[@jacobturcotte2400]

I hate to admit it but this video makes me want this game way more than I want to play tabor, definitely make more content man

[@kristianrehorovsky7717]

THE ALPHA IS ON THE QUEST?! This is so cool omg

[@perkl8er849]

Honestly, I think the attachment system on GOT is smoother and more realistic over an arcade style that contractors is. I’ve played both contractors games an they’re fun if you want to play COD but Tabor makes my heart race and it puts me intense situations where Contractors doesn’t make me feel anything but laughter. It’s fun with the buds when you want to decompress. Tabor is King

[@Blujustice]

Lol you obviously haven't played this, thus plays nothing like contractors or contractors showdown, it plays like contractors exfilzone! Way more hardcore then tabor. You're tripping. Keep on your knees for Scott

[@rpvvr451]

hahaha I dropped in near hyder on the cliff...instinctively leapt off ...no fekkin parachute ...badly broken legs instead! Really cool mode, let's hope we don't end up with 30+min waiting times when it goes "live" eh.

[@AnAverageGamer_2]

A whole minute??? KZbin is a jerk

[@micro7997]

Wdym

[@AnAverageGamer_2]

@ saw it a minute after posting makings joke about yt trying to hide it from me

[@davidlefranc6240]

This game have a brilliant future for sure !

[@Bo11Jangles]

Excellent video maybe my all-time favorite so far! Game looks amazing already and very fun to watch!

[@eagleone5456]

Probably gonna get away from xbox to get into VR. This looks amazing honestly

[@Ryan-jx3ld]

Ive played tabor for a while, I can say that i am not OG but seeing tabors body, and character stuff im not a fan, and as a person who cares about the body and the HANDS showdown seems to beat it as well, and actually being abled to see where your hurt from is cool as hell, and plan on playing this when it comes out, def going to check out the alpha.

[@TimelessVRyt]

The IK in this game (body and hand movements) are insanely well done. I look down at my legs in this game and they feel real lmao

[@SpottyPupp]

As a newbie to vr and extraction shooters, this looks way more user friendly than ghost of tabor. I have high hopes for this one.

[@savagebeast7626]

As a pretty avid tabor player, I am crazy excited to play this, I may never go back to tabor

[@deano_vr]

I might have to start playing this game and posting again, holy cow it looks good

[@Zer07ofwar]

12:31 “Imagine you can loot the computers too.” You can

[@TimelessVRyt]

I don’t think that specific one could be looted but yeah man the pc looting is so sick

[@cason5791]

Don't want to ask if it's too much work, but maybe after playing a bit, make a getting started video that explains how the game works and different armor tiers, healing, etc. it seems like there is some stuff that isn't explained well so that would be super helpful

[@TimelessVRyt]

It will be so much work with how many mechanics there are but im down to do it eventually. I did it for Tabor and it took a whole day, with this game probably longer

[@bennyboidoesstuff2798]

I have not watched much of this guys content but holy hell he's unintentionally funny as shit

[@Prototype-TxPride]

@TimelessVR plz keep posting vidz of this game! It definitely has potential and I love your content and how confident u always seem when u go into a raid!! I may buy this game, just depends.

[@n8dawg727]

The skull helmet is weaker than the one you were wearing i believe. Also your little tool shows everything detail wise. You need to start using that ASAP. Also there are 3 diff needles for health all diff amounts. N there is also a super skinny one that works like painkillers. And yes you can take the armor off scavs same for helmets. Probably should of read your tutorial lol You can put helmets, vests, and pouches on your backpack

[@skinniyp]

graphics already look better than tabor off rip. looks nice

[@claydough18]

That scav dying was so fucking hilarious. Like over the top.

[@eggsbenedict8321]

Yeah it looks really fun. I just hope they'll add isolated maps instead of just throwing you into BR POIs.

[@matKilla9801]

There is a station where you can replenish your status / heal and its free to use until level 5.

[@sgtjames784]

i like them both. but I would 100% say that tabor would be better once its fully polished and most bugs are gone.

[@Hellcanvas]

No way I saw this vid 11 secs after it was made. SUP