Tactical Arms - Scar H (Part 2 of 2)

[@terryloher910]

Great to see Monty LeClair again.

[@johnstallings9652]

I sure hope we adapt these two weapon into all branches of the Military. Great video as always LAV.

[@LongRangeDesertGroupX]

I have both a 16s and now 17s and love them both, I ended up selling two of my AR's and happy I did.

[@ms.annthrope415]

Bought the SCAR H year ago. Been an absolute dream rifle. Soft shooting, accurate, easy to use, ergonomic, easy to clean. Much better shooter than my Springfield M1A Loaded back syn stock. Haven't shot much as price of ammo is still pretty high. But I have hoarded enough 7.62x51 to be my SHTF load out rifle along with my FN FNX .45 as my sidearm.

[@KenMacaulayOz]

The SCAR weapon system seems to bring together the lessons of the AK family & matches it with the best of Western design in modularity & accuracy. Brilliant stuff, & unlike so much coming out these days that sounds good on the drawing board, immensely practical...

[@seventhSabra]

I LOVE my SCAR-H build! My 16" build is running a Elcan 1.5-6, Silencerco Osprey, Geissele trigger, and fore grip/light/IR/laser... everything is FDE, Khaki, Coyote, stone grey. I also have a DMR build, basically a Mk20, with a Schmidt & Bender 5-20x50, Geissele trigger, KA suppressor, bipod, and the other usual gear. Phenomenal DMR/EBR... about a $10.000+ build. I even prefer this weapon platform over the excellent SR-25/Mk 11 which I also own and have extensive combat experience with with 12 years service as an IDF commando (Rav Seren or LCDR). If I could only have one rifle for the rest of my life and it needs to do everything from hunting to target shooting to defensive/ combatant encounters with both CQB and long range capability... the SCAR-H is my top choice (16" barrel with 1.5-6x Elcan). I don't have the SCAR-L, no point really. I prefer my DD Mk18, LWRC, and HK416 builds for .556. Love your videos, keep on spreading the freedom sauce.

[@Kataquan]

Jesus Christ, you're rich

[@joelyboyblue]

Love this channel- highest quality tactical stuff I've seen on KZbin - keep it up fellas

[@BrandonBuhler]

Love my SCAR. Worth the money period.

[@BrianLeeDroid]

I'm going to have to try one out

[@BrandonBuhler]

I want to try that 10 or 13 inch barrel.

[@BrianLeeDroid]

Do you have a class 3 license?

[@BrandonBuhler]

Brian Lee Not yet. This has been a debate for a bit. My next priority is to see what happens at the Jan Shot show and see if HK is coming with some Civilian Assault weapons. If nothing strikes me, I want a can for pistols. Than a Barrett or .338. I've shot a lot of automatics and they are certainly fun but for me I am without a doubt a more methodical shooter and am really about picking shoots. I'd love to be good enough with an auto that I could drive 5-6 nails on target at 25-100 yards though.

[@BrandonBuhler]

***** You ever shoot one? Mine is the Mk16 not the S if you're referring to Short barrel. Comparing a SCAR to an AR in my hands is like comparing a Ford Focus to a Mercedes AMG Class. Yes they both drive and get the job done but... In all fairness, while I've shot a ton of custom built AR I'd imagine I could put one together that I would love. I know what you mean on the Lapua Rounds, you don't want to lose sight of the fun you're having when you see dollar signs every time you squeeze the trigger. Sadly like just about all things, you gotta pay to play.

[@RaderizDorret]

Mk18s are specialized weapons for a specific purpose (replacing the old MP5s for CQB). They also have M4A1s for more general work as well as Reece/SPR rifles for longer-range work (alongside belt-feds, designated marksman rifles in 7.62 NATO, etc.) They have more than enough equipment to get the job done and, naturally, they pick what they'll need for any given mission.

[@Gaspard129]

Agreed. Within 150 yards, the M193 5.56mm has superior terminal ballistics to even the M80 7.62mm. Second on reading Dr. Fackler's paper's on terminal ballistics, as well as Dr. Gary K.Roberts. Most of them can be found on the Firearms Tactical Institute website.

[@flamezealous]

Please, MORE about the SCAR series just before they win, coz they are GONNA BE "THE WEAPON."

[@RaderizDorret]

And where do you draw your conclusion from? I've actually seen what a 5.56 will do to a man. It does the job well enough. Every time I hear of people bitching about 5.56 not having "stopping power", they were missing the target.

[@Plazma360]

@DongHands84 i think the original concept of the assault rifle was that most engagements don't happen over 400 yards. hence it makes more sense to make a lighter, shorter gun with a larger capacity and less recoil. if you have guys at longer range or in good cover you probably need a more specialised weapon like a gpmg or GL

[@JT32296]

2:00 This is not really an issue because if you wanted to, you could put a rail mounted front sight in front of the actual front sight. Same with the rear sight.

[@DubVUchyea]

true that but whats cool about this rifle is the fact that the recoil is almost the same as the 5.56 and the rifle is still only about 7 pounds. This system gives the 7.62 a greater advantage now

[@RaderizDorret]

The whole 5.56 vs 7.63 debate boils down to this: what do you want to do with it? 7.62 does have an advantage in terms of terminal performance at longer ranges and through barriers, but at the cost of heavier weight and recoil. The 5.56 is much more controllable, can carry more than double the load by weight compared to 7.62 and can do its job out to 600 if the shooter knows what he's doing (which he has to when you're talking about extended ranges). (cont)

[@TuAFFalcon]

Excellent work. Bad ass weapons system.

[@RaderizDorret]

Half-truth. It met the standard for a lower price as well as the pluses I mentioned. It's more cost-effective to hand a Joe an SR25 variant and say "Ok, this rifle is your M16's big brother. Let's hit the range to teach you how to shoot at long range". Especially compared to; "Ok, this rifle is different than what you're used to so we'll need a couple days to teach you how to manipulate it."

[@JimLadBossMan]

depends on range. you hit someone at longer ranges with a 5.56 after its slowed down to subsonic and it looses a lot of stopping power. 7.62 has more weight so it takes longer to slow down so it stays supersonic longer giving it better stopping power at ranges but yeah at closer ranges or with a critical hit the 5.56 is as good as any other bullet

[@4everUSNavy]

with the SCAR-H you get a light weight accurate gun with Low Recoil and a big Punch. Its a gun that can do anything when you want it to.

[@DoughBoi-cs4qt]

I love the scar-H as soon as I am old enough that's the gun i am buying I saw it in call of duty used it a lot started to do research on it now its my airsoft gun and even in airsoft form it has the interchanging barrels and its a bit lighter then most full metal guns and I like the feel of it to

[@GamesRorsome]

The 5.56mm round was designed to be more effective in the means of bodily harm,it was designed to fly at a lower speed than the 7.62 and to be smaller so that when the bullet hits a "soft" target (humans) it will greatly slow down and tumble causing severe internal organ damage and the 7.62 was designed as a more powerful round so that it can penetrate cover killing your target examples of these effective can be seen in the guns the AK47(7.62) and AK74(5.56)

[@RaderizDorret]

5.56 is generally supersonic out to 775 yards or so. 7.62 out to about 900 yards. At that range, you're stretching the limits of either platform and a standard battle/assault rifle probably isn't going to cut it which is why you bring in other weapons like the snipers and the belt-feds. Now a 7.62 for a designated marksman rifle is something I agree with. But a general issue rifle for Joes who are typically fighting within 300 yards? 5.56 makes more sense.

[@JimLadBossMan]

yeah i agree, 5.56 is so much lighter and that's more important than any advantages the 7.62 has for an average soldier but like u say you need the bigger belt feds and DMRs. Think US are switching from the 249 to a 7.62 like the brits with the GMPG so they have more organic 7.62s

[@Cynnik911]

Hey he served in Delta, he deserves to live and let loose with a few extra beers and hot wings.

[@kyles6964]

@DongHands84 I am with you as long as someone else is carrying the ammo.

[@RaderizDorret]

Please read what I actually said. For extended range use, a 7.62 makes sense. As a general-issue weapon, not so much. Especially most military training isn't very good at all. Thing is, the SCAR has some issues (beats the shit out of optics, stocks breaking, etc). AR10s actually make more sense: same manual of arms as the M4/M16, looks like an M16 at a distance (key for making sure enemy snipers don't pick on your SDM), shares many parts with the M16, etc.

[@ajgambs44]

Ditto from what haxor117 said. Mag carriers are the only way to carry your ammo easily and efficiently. And btw, Larry Vickers is a legend in SOF Ops. He's done it all, at the highest levels of SOF and would beat the dog shit out of anyone short of a trained Operator in his present condition, and even then I bet the new cats wouldn't want to tussle with him. Show some respect for Veterans, especially ones that invented most of the TTP's that are used today.

[@ms.annthrope415]

LAV spent most of his time in Delta Force, as well as being their unit firearms instructor. He was in Sabre Squadron and did all sorts of stuff that we don't even know of because it's still classified. He has the highest level of experience and credibility in firearms. He is a legend in the SF. Community and its a small world.

[@RaderizDorret]

As much as I like the SCAR, it's amazing how much of it isn't really "new" when it comes to the mechanism. M1 Carbine-style gas system mated with an AR-18-type bolt in a new shell. Damn fine rifle, though.

[@RaderizDorret]

With the budgets being what they are, weapons changes aren't happening any time soon. The 249 was never meant to be a replacement for the 7.62 belt-feds, but rather a supplement (higher volume of fire than a rifle and lighter than an empty M60, but the trade-off was, of course, not being quite as hard-hitting). M240s are more and more common now, but the 249 still has its place. It's all in the employment.

[@murphfee617]

Love that 762. S.C.A.R. heavy

[@RaderizDorret]

@DongHands84 I'm sure the Army and Marine designated marksmen who have confirmed kills out to 600+ yards with 5.56 would beg the differ regarding how effective that round is at longer ranges...

[@RaderizDorret]

I said "guaranteed to stop a fight in one hit". People have been shot with multiple slugs from a 12 gauge and still fought on. Same for getting caught in explosions. Just because they CAN kill with one hit doesn't mean the always WILL.

[@kyles6964]

With the 5.56 if he had put his shots higher it would have cleared the notches. Those triple drop steels have all the weight on the bottom, the design rewards head shots/high shot placement. That being said 7.62x51mm has roughly double the energy of a 5.56x45mm rounds out of similar barrel lengths and target range. Beautiful rifles though.

[@DaserVolt]

In the M4 weapons systems, I always liked the hassle of taking the hand guards off and cleaning the gunk out from around the gas tube; in addition to many other absurd design flaws. It always seemed to me that the warfighter always got shafted with the M16 variant series. There's really no excuse for it in this day and age.

[@RaderizDorret]

I agree that 6.8 SPC is a damn fine round. But the sheer number of 5.56 NATO weapons and ammo in circulation means that swapping out weapon systems for a different caliber is going to be very expensive. Considering all the bs budgets cuts (seriously, the DoD is only like 3% or so of our GDP and yet apparently people think we spend "too much" on defense) and other factors, 5.56 NATO is here to stay for the foreseeable futre.

[@fixxxerist]

Train more then, it should never be about trusting the bullet to do the work for you. You should train so you work the bullet no matter what caliber to do what you want it to do.

[@RaderizDorret]

Subsonic 5.56 loads? That's a new one on me. I wasn't aware that M855, M855A1, and Mk 262 were subsonic loads. And the SCAR is only seeing very limited deployment at best. It literally costs 2x as much as an M16/M4 but does NOT give 2x the performance. Also, with the budget issues, we are not going to be adopting a new rifle for a while.

[@MeetTheMattsons]

1,000 rounds of 7.62 is 70 pounds. 5.56 is about half, which is why it's in use today.

[@fixxxerist]

Sorry man, I don't have time for internet tough guys who think they know everything. Good luck to you bud, I think your gonna need it.

[@RaderizDorret]

Yeah, that must be why Knight's Armament scored the M110 contract when the Mk20 (sniper variant of the Mk17) shit the bed. And you seem to ignore the tactical (rifle mimics the looks of the standard rifles we use), logistical (shared parts with weapons already in the inventory), and training (identical manual of arms as the primary weapons system) of the AR10/SR25 families.

[@Cypher791]

@pokegan52 diameter of the bullet, 5.56mm (which i think the m16 fires) and 7.62mm which i think the ak47 fires

[@Fastflyingpigs]

Larry I sent you a vid of the Scar.vs Keltec hope you like it

[@OMGWUNSIU]

What a range you have there! I'm jealous. The SCAR Heavy IS on my Christmas list for sure. Great gun & IMHO 7.62mm is the only way to go qwhen your life depends on it.

[@waffenmacht]

@breakurselff There are pro's and cons of that technique. It is not how the weapon is designed, but I agree some SF guys use irons up. I've used both techniques and prefer the irons down using a quality red-dot. Having an uncluttered sight picture is a priority for me.

[@RaderizDorret]

Where as I've actually seen the wounds a 5.56 will cause. Once again, nearly every time I've heard of the 5.56 "lacking stopping power", the person was missing the target. Also consider, many people use 7.62 NATO/.308 Winchester to hunt deer and similar animals, myself included. Unless I get a brain or spine shot, that deer may or may not take off and run for a while. There's a lot of factors that go into bringing a person down and nothing man-portable is guaranteed to stop a fight in one hit.

[@ArmanCortez1]

Very true. Me personally if i was a soldier out in the field (Which i'm not) and had the opportunity to pick from those two cartridges/guns (unless your in Spec Ops, forget picking your guns/ammo). It would depend on the scenario. If i was going inside some building in an Iraqi city i would go for the 5.56 and get a 14 inch rifle. If i was patrolling the mountains/plains of Afghanistan I would get a rifle AT LEAST with an 18 inch barrel, and in 7.62.

[@radekweglicki]

Nice video, very profesionial. :)

[@buddy9577]

DO ANOTHER SCAR H VIDEO

[@fixxxerist]

I kinda know a bit myself, I know that the 5.56 was created for this. The NATO .308 is a great round and really good for distance shooting, it will out preform a 5.56 hands down. A common mistake is thinking because a bullet is smaller it can't kill. If your plan is to spray and pray, without a doubt the NATO 308 is great for that. I always kept a close eye on my ammo count, spraying and praying was never an option. One shot one kill is how we're trained and practice.

[@ms.annthrope415]

Unfortunately, studies have shown that rate of firepower is more important than accuracy of fire. The early ordnance officers disliked semi auto rifles because they would cause soldiers to spray and pray snd waste ammo. They still had the fantasy of Daniel Boone and the Kentucky Long Rifle picking the enemy off at 400 yards. (See The American Rifle, Alexander Rose.) But thr rate of firepower had dominated rifle technology since the 1800s. Units that can pour withering fire onto the enemy usually won. And almost all soldiers will spray and pray when the shooting starts. No one takes time to aim fire when hot lead is pouring inbound.

[@Plazma360]

@JimmyGunXD556 7.62 only takes one person out of a battle because they are dead. 5.56 takes 3 people out. the injured and the two guys giving him first aid.

[@RaderizDorret]

And do you know the hassle that would come from trying to switch over to a new caliber, new weapons to fire said caliber, re-training troops who've spent years on the M16, M240B, M249, etc? Pure logistics says that 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO are here to stay for the foreseeable future. You don't fix what's primarily a software problem by swapping out the hardware.

[@TheManOWrath]

@GamesRorsome AK-74 is 5.45, not 5.56.

[@DongHands84]

@Plazma360 Too bad the 5.56 is terrible for shooting through cover and only has an effective range against personnel of about 300 yards due to the loss of energy. I'd rather have a confirmed kill then an injured soldier that has a possibility of returning to the fight. I would rather have the 7.62 and not need the extra power and barrier penetration than have the 5.56 and need more.

[@LKN4WAR]

I was thinking same thing. Way not put a pair of rail sights like troys front and back. Would the height work ok?

[@JimmyGunXD556]

if your enemy is made of 3/4" steel get the 7.62 round .

[@ArmanCortez1]

I use to be in the bandwagon for the 6.8 SPC, or the 6.5 Grendell, or even the 300 blackout. But why bother wasting money doing all that, just go for the 7.62 (which we have plenty of) and train soldiers to be more proficient marksmen. Fully automatic fire is only useful for suppression fire at medium to long ranges. At close ranges i suppose it can be useful. Even then firing fully auto heats up a weapon insanely fast, so a dedicated light machine gun is best instead of a battle rifle.

[@GUNS4MIKE1234]

@willbiltam08 That still is pritty common idk why you think a long range weapon helps unless you mean afganistan where you have to make long range shots I think we just need to accept that both are amazing and do the job they need to do and not get rid of eather concept.

[@Plaayboarding]

it already is

[@yannai0h]

A single injured soldier will use much more of his country's resources then a dead soldier. That is the strategic idea behind the 5.56. However in modern war against insurgents things are diffrent.

[@waffenmacht]

@breakurselff Who does that? Its a flip, keep it down and you have a full optic vew.

[@SonOfTerra92]

4:00 if he likes to hold it that way then he should go for the magpul avg ...

[@RaderizDorret]

@Plazma360 If 5.56 was "designed to wound/injure" then I guess it's defective since has killed a metric fuckton of people. Hell, early 5.56 was more deadly than early 7.62 Soviet because although the 7.62 did better against barriers, the actual wounds it left generally weren't that impressive. See Martin Fackler's writings on his experience as a medic in the miiltary for further details.

[@RaderizDorret]

Alright, I'm tracking.

[@RahRahRaharu]

AR10's in general just suck these days. The SCAR beats up cheap optics not aimpoints or Night Force scopes. The stock breakage is a design and materials flaw that certainly needs to be adressed. The point is the Mk 17 is not replacing the M4 in any role or branch of service. It is a supplemental rifle for punching holes and dialing out to long distance. The manual of arms and control placement for the M16/M4 sucks when you are shooting from prone at long range. Get real dude.

[@buddy9577]

THE NEW SCARS HAVE A UPDATED MORE ROBUST STOCK. 2019

[@Gaspard129]

Not to mention, these videos are several years old. Larry has lost a huge amount of weight in the last year and a half. Check out this interview from last year. /watch?v=9mKD-CmX4zQ Now not only can he out muscle you, he can probably out-run you too.

[@ms.annthrope415]

He also has cancer. Prayers to LAV.

[@bharlan2002]

I would still rather trust my life to a .308 round over a .223 round even if the 22 caliber round is lighter.

[@andrealexandre6523]

i like that

[@RaderizDorret]

(from previous comment) Considering how most people are poor marksmen, they should focus more on training than launching the biggest, baddest bullet. After all, the effectiveness of a miss is precisely zero.

[@RahRahRaharu]

Bigger bullets plus trained killers equals dead bad guys with less ammo expended. Plus shooting through light cover. Me I ain't a frogman so I need me more bullets than 20 to make sure I get it done. The big factor for the MK17 being such a hit was the range improvement it offered in Afghanistan over the M4. Just saying.

[@Wolfwolveswolf]

I hope the U.S. will awake one of these days and get it right with the SCAR 17H, as compared to how they once already failed, for NOT choosing the FN FAL Rifle back when.

[@SvenBov88]

The Scar-H have the same power like a German Heckler&Koch G3 same Cal. 7,62x51

[@ms.annthrope415]

It has the same caliber as all 7.62x51 rifles, HKG3, FN FAL, and M14/M1A.

[@fixxxerist]

Maybe you could patch up your mate if your not a good shot, but with a good shot even a .22 will kill with one shot.

[@hax0r117]

because its common for load-bearing equipment to integrate armor nowadays. since he wants more than one magazine, he's gonna wear some kind of equipment. and he may look fat, but ill bet he'd out-muscle you in seconds.

[@ms.annthrope415]

After 20 years in Delta, he can be as fat as he wants. He deserves it. He has paid every dues asked by anyone.

[@ronin2167]

Nice gun...but PTR 91 is half the price and just as nice.

[@redgreen3b143]

I couldn't shoot like that. Lol. I been shooting guns for 30 years & never seen anyone shoot in that awkward stance & hold.

[@CreoleCommando]

should've been .276x47 mm superior to both calibers ! flat out to 500 meters.

[@courtneyparrish6918]

I guess none of you know it all's have ever heard of body armor

[@rduguay63]

FN prices are like H&Ks, OUTRAGEOUS !!!!!!!!

[@ms.annthrope415]

So are Porsches and Ferraris. So are Rolex and Omega watches.

[@petehoban4884]

Too close to target to determine effectiveness. How about trying 500 meters with iron sights rapid fire? Fifty yards? That's hand gun range for a real gunfighter.

[@MazzaJF]

Drop the SCAR and swap in a tactical treadmill

[@ms.annthrope415]

20 years in Delta Force. Larry will pick you up and drive you head first into thr ground. He can be as fat as he wants because he has lived more in 20 years in Delta than any keyboard commando has lived in 5 lifetimes. I bet he has more muscles that you wil ever dream of.

[@thegr8pulido]

what the fuck is a .276x47mm is that even possible

[@RahRahRaharu]

10.5 barrels on a mk 18 are good to at least 300 yds. It ain't the rifle it's you. The fuck factor for M4's is the green tip tracer. It's wobbly and needs a 1 in 7 twist to stabilize in a 14.5, or shorter, barrel. The other issue with SBRs is dwell time and if you notice Mk 18s usually have their cans on solving that issue. Learn some shit before you post.

[@rickylain]

the lower receiver is copied from AR, the bolt is copied from AR, the carrier group is copied from AK, the side way folding not original. the short stroke system is out for a long time, the butt stock design is copied from the UGG shoe company. everyone is copying from each other, i don't see the big deal. have a fun day.

[@5687678]

They are reading from a script.

[@MazzaJF]

I know I know just poking some fun

[@SalandFindles]

The fucking audio is off sync with the video.

[@raptorrider24]

Is everyone on this show left handed? lol

[@steveent5319]

All great marksman are ;)

[@RaderizDorret]

Then I guess all the Designated Marksmen using M16A4 rifles with ACOGs are full of shit when they report killing targets at ranges of 600+ meters using Mk.262 ammo...

[@nielyoung2369]

7.62 fmj has horrible wound ballistics obviously not with hp or sp bullets but 5.56 is superior in fmj and as for the power of the 7.62 it will not be delivered as the bullet with just zip through people dumping little of is energy into the target not to mention the recoil and diminished capacity both in the magazine and on the soldiers person

[@andrewgross6002]

niel young boy you ignorant lmao

[@rickylain]

scar copied from ak

[@vexxdk]

H&K 417 nuff sayed, buy german.