FAKE Amazon Surefire vs Real Surefire Light

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@ddazzla27 7 ай бұрын

maybe Surefire should lower their prices to outsell clones that are of decent quality. Lets be honest, does anyone really think Surefire cant afford to lower their prices? How much does it really cost them per unit to produce?

@Prepared_Mindset_Pod 7 ай бұрын

They have military contracts. If they lower civilian prices, they'll have to lower military prices. It's illegal to sell to the government for more than civilian market price, so they design and price their products for those.

@dbchillin7747 7 ай бұрын

@@Prepared_Mindset_Podripping off the tax payer one contract at a time and so-called patriots swinging on their nutts!

@ddazzla27 7 ай бұрын

@@Prepared_Mindset_Pod Do you really think that the government is paying the same per unit as civilians? Just like the SIG p320..... which I think the government is paying less than $200 per unit for. Thanks for your opinion...... but it was completely wasted since its irrelevant.

@Prepared_Mindset_Pod 7 ай бұрын

@ddazzla27 lol alright. Read the rest of the comments section. It's 100% the reason, not an opinion.

@Bulletjunkie-jh2fv 7 ай бұрын

@@Prepared_Mindset_Pod 100%

@VanTheMan1099 7 ай бұрын

I think people need to be realistic about what they are actually doing with their guns too. Surefire is great for Spec ops dudes and stuff. But the average person isnt jumping out of planes or shooting at people 300 yards away. A streamlight is more than good enough.

@mdh1775 5 ай бұрын

A couple of us bought these off eBay just to mess around on the range with to see how bad they actually were and all of us were very surprised. The only issue we saw with these was the mounting screw for the pic rail mount would not stay tight. We were throwing the lights around banging them against trees, 2x4 barricades and I threw mine against the concrete parking lot a few times trying to get them to fail and they would not. We went to the hardware store and replaced pic rail screws and they have not come loose yet. I own surefire and streamlight and I have to say I am pretty impressed with these and the abuse they have taken.

@missyoujoel3275 7 ай бұрын

Did surefire invent the flashlight? Its a fucking flashlight 400 dollars? They're robbing your ass for that price.

@Kingcole26outdoors 7 ай бұрын

I agree with you he acting like the lights are only like $100 or $200

@MrSoonermadman 7 ай бұрын

Damn reliable flashlights. Everyone has their preference, some like cheap lights, some like better made lights. That’s what’s great about our country right? You get to choose which one you want….

@dbchillin7747 7 ай бұрын

@@MrSoonermadmansurefire's dual fuel has problems with batteries causing flickering according to many amazon reviews.

@vietnamtactical 7 ай бұрын

@@dbchillin7747own 6 surefire lights, 2 dual feuls only time it flickers is when i dont push the pressure pad hard enough😭

@vietnamtactical 7 ай бұрын

“I can get lake water for free why buy bottled water not like they invented water” Sorry man but i think your logic robbed your braincells😭

@sergeantwilliepete2252 7 ай бұрын

Surefire's prices are way too high for civilian use. $350 for a light on a $700 AR-15 - NAH!

@davet3659 6 ай бұрын

Same with Modlite and Cloud Defensive. These light companies be out of their minds. I’ll stick to Streamlight 😂

@TheBmwDriverM3 6 ай бұрын

What's a 700$ AR? Is that even a real thing lol.

@danmarcell3167 6 ай бұрын

@@davet3659Streamlight used to be the same and then they moved all production to china for slave labor

@Kosher_Slider 6 ай бұрын

Right, I just go get a few 7$ expandable beam leds from harbour freight. Fits my light holder, and my thumb can hit the button effectively. Means I have more $ for ammo and gas (to go get ammo)

@bX313.55 6 ай бұрын

@@TheBmwDriverM3yeah its a thing, you aint ever heard of palmetto state armory? Most of their ar platforms are in that range or cheaper.

@Hardestway 7 ай бұрын

A range buddy who works in LE had a knockoff Surefire with tail cap from EBay on his patrol rifle for 6 years by accident. He won a bid for just under $200. It wasn’t until someone bought an Amazon for $40 and they compared and he realized his was fake. He shot thousands of rounds with the fake light on range days, training classes and certifications. He said he never had a flicker. He emailed Surefire and they confirmed his was fake. They gave him a good deal on a real one so he switched it out. He put it on his sons 15/22 and it still works but you can really tell in brightness. But it’s close to the stream light 600 watt. Not a fan of the knockoff market of American companies but for people just getting into firearms it wouldn’t be a bad light to train with while saving for the real deal.

@wsz594 6 ай бұрын

Streamlight 600 watt???? Lol they are not 600 watt lights....

@iam4kershawknives 4 ай бұрын

This video is horrible. Instead of showing you the difference in the very beginning, the guy sits there and says, "Look at this , let's see here, and try this good God dude get to the point.

@hientruong4074 7 ай бұрын

When did we normalize $400 flashlights? I’d get it if the Surefire is $200 max, but $400 is just daylight robbery. I like Made in USA stuff, but the price ain’t right.

@gtrscort1 6 ай бұрын

This!!!

@strat1960s 6 ай бұрын

The cost of production in the USA is higher than most countries, but I agree, $400 for a flashlight is silly. I can buy 10 of these knock-offs and batteries for about the same price as a SureFire with no batteries. LOL

@danmarcell3167 6 ай бұрын

Difference between American Craftsmen and slave labor ... one is made out of really good materials the other isn't

@garrettgolden1038 6 ай бұрын

Agreed 👌

@danmarcell3167 6 ай бұрын

How do you feel about the other being slave made

@Dubst6r 7 ай бұрын

I totally understand what you said about not supporting companies that rip off designs. But I also think Surefire's demographic is for professionals and government based on price. I am not in their demographic and although I would use a weapon light for home defense, the rip offs will get you by. Great review and comparison.

@mrshort2379 7 ай бұрын

I have to agree I do not like supporting knockoff companies either. However being that I am a poor with a very small and limited expenditure I would gladly buy the knockoff being that it works that well.

@SoldierOfTheWay 7 ай бұрын

Feyachi weapon light is also phenomenal with a phenomenal mount.

@ceehads 7 ай бұрын

Second that!

@vietnamtactical 7 ай бұрын

No… its not.. when i first got into guns i got one because i didnt know anything about guns really, its actually on one of my first vids on youtube. I went from a poverty warrior to what id say is gold standard for a gun owner maybe a little higher but you get the point. I had put my Feyachi light in storage for a couple years and it just took a 💩 on me, changed batteries and the light is still very dim and the switch barely works. That lights done for, just from storage time. I only buy surefire, modlite, arisaka, and streamlight.

@dirtycommtroop 6 ай бұрын

@@vietnamtactical I have the Feyachi 1200 lumen light on my airsoft rifle simply because its just airsoft and im not spending money on name brand stuff for it. However, its been banged around a ton. Dropped on concrete and in the dirt. The lens was shot out at point blank range. Still keeps ticking. The tape switch mount is probably the best design ive seen compared to surefire or streamlight ( i have both). Theres a higher possibility of these lights failing like yours did but I would say to anyone a cheaper light is better than no light.

@DesertTactical 6 ай бұрын

Aaah. Yachi weapon lights. I too had one Lol.

@joshkelsch445 6 ай бұрын

@dirtycommtroop Yeah the wiring on the inside of my Feyachi came unsoldered after only a few hundred rounds. I fixed it and it still works, but I wouldn't trust it on my weapon AT ALL.

@MrItsthatguy 7 ай бұрын

Do a fake amazon acog vs trijicon acog.

@gtrscort1 6 ай бұрын

I had a fake Trijicon on my first rifle and it didn’t last through my range session. That was more than 10 years ago so the knockoffs might be better now. Didn’t pay a lot for it so I didn’t care.

@truthseeking3818 6 ай бұрын

@@gtrscort1 No they are just as bad. Had one last 30 rounds. The ones they are selling are technically airsoft sights, so they aren't rated for real firearm recoil. Sights are the one thing you really gotta at least pay the piper for if you want something clear and reliable. Lights.... Are just lights.

@EDP_every_day_pyro 6 ай бұрын

I have one that I slapped on a Tippmann M4-22 and it has worked just fine. But it's a .22lr lol.

@truthseeking3818 6 ай бұрын

@Big_Bruv_Innit Tell me you don't shoot your firearms without actually telling me you don't shoot your firearms.

@truthseeking3818 6 ай бұрын

@Big_Bruv_Innit If you had the money to shoot as much as you act like - you'd have enough money to buy a real optic. Get lost little kiddo.

@pokegenandoz1574 6 ай бұрын

If you look and ask sellers you can actually get the clones with the “brand name” on them.

@ddazzla27 6 ай бұрын

Sad thing is that a lot of clones are starting to outperform the real thing.....

@qtypical 6 ай бұрын

@@ddazzla27 could also be good depending on how you look at it. Kinda like PSAs motto of “freedom over profit”

@jstud999 5 ай бұрын

@@ddazzla27I wish I could come across some that good. I have a few clones and comparing them to their counterparts their great but I can always find flaws. I’ve yet to come across one that truly outperforms. Do you know of any I can try? A lot of the ACOG clones can be dang good but they have so many now it’s hard to decipher. I got one a couple years ago that is by far the closest clone item I have all around. I bought two more from the same seller about 6 months later. One was the exact same as the first one I received and the other was very cheaply made. I was told it was from a new production batch and returned it.

@StephonRKell 7 ай бұрын

Makes me feel like we are gettingscammed by big companies

@grim3897 7 ай бұрын

we are. Chinese clones are worse than originals, 8 times worse...? I don't think so

@tweebthelerker3952 6 ай бұрын

Like the GBRS groups $450 riser. I found the knock off for $40 before the GBRS groups riser was released to the public. That told me that it must've been made in China and branded for them. I won't support crap light this. Streamlight makes a great light for 1/4 the price anyway.

@s.maverickharrisonii6019 6 ай бұрын

FACT THE FURNITURE IS ALWAYS has cheaper and better alternatives out there you just have to look for them

@blantant 6 ай бұрын

They charge what people are willing to pay. This can be a lot if there is minimal competition in the market. China's complete disregard for other nation's intellectual property is disgusting. Ofc our president does nothing about it. No one is entitled to a cheap and awesome flashlight.

@theinfluencechannel3833 Ай бұрын

You got it now.

@DesertTactical 6 ай бұрын

I have two knock off SF M600DF. One mounted on an (real) arisaka mount and another on a monstrum scout mount. They both have been outstanding! Then again, I’m just a weekend range guy who LARPs sometimes. Lol. I’m not LE or Mil. So not jumping out of planes, going on missions or anything of that nature. I refuse to pay $400 for a light when I can get a clone M600 DF for about $40-50 thats has held up to hundreds of rounds in dirt, wind, rain, plinking, hot ass desert temps and rifle/pistol courses and night range sessions.

@levilivingston982 7 ай бұрын

I have a hand full and for the price I was very impressed. All of them are still mounted and function.

@jubaby3366 7 ай бұрын

I appreciate your time and honesty.

@Diceman12100 6 ай бұрын

Just run a streamlight PROTAC HL with the surefire pressure switch and the asrisaka tail cap, both are IPX 7 water resistant rating, ive killed a surefire, ive never killed a stream light. I own 2 different surefire lights. But my rifles run streamlight's with the surefire pressure switch and the arisaka tail cap. Nice vid.

@marcusd3212 6 ай бұрын

I've killed both before, a surefire and a streamlight. I think ultimately anything can be broken in certain situations. But breaking a streamlight doesn't break the wallet as much then breaking a surefire. 😂

@Diceman12100 6 ай бұрын

@@marcusd3212Absolutely, anything can be killed. I've run my stream lights as hard as I possibly can. My Surefire died on me overseas while working. Was it old , absolutely, was it beat to pieces, absolutely, I switched to a stream light while working across the water and it lasted me for an 8 month cycle. That same stream light is in my safe put up and it still fires to this day.

@marcusd3212 6 ай бұрын

@@Diceman12100 ah yes this is awesome! Nothing better then finding a product that works great for ya. Even when ya retire it from duty it keeps kicking!

@patb7723 7 ай бұрын

I found a good weapon light on amazon for around $40 from a company called toughsoul and its like 1200 lumens and actually has worked pretty well have had on my one rifle for like two or three years

@voteholyk 7 ай бұрын

I run that same SI forward grip, I love it. You have it on backwards. The notch is a barricade stop so you can push into a barricade.

@natividadregalado5179 7 ай бұрын

It can be ran either way...in another video he explained why he prefers it that way..

@once0217 6 ай бұрын

I bought 2 of these a while back. Threw the heads and tail switches away and replaced with Arisaka and Malkhoff parts. The bodies are definitely worth the 35 bucks.

@donc3104 7 ай бұрын

US Patent law limits a company to 7 years of exclusivity (to encourage market competitionamd limit monopolies). After that, anyone can make that product. If surefire isn't innovating then that's their fault.

@danmarcell3167 6 ай бұрын

China and their slave labor doesn't care about those patent laws

@GrumpyGenXGramps 7 ай бұрын

I got 2 of the Scout lights. They even have the Surefire markings. It’s been over 2 years now and I am completely happy with them! Only I paid $25 each. One is on a “truck gun” that gets tossed around and beat up pretty bad driving around the farm.

@the.odd.society 6 ай бұрын

What battery does it take

@GrumpyGenXGramps 6 ай бұрын

@@the.odd.society CR123

@2manyhobbies76 6 ай бұрын

I've had this exact light for over a year and LOVE it on my M&P 15-22. It's best use is on a training rifle as I see it.

@Fouge642 7 ай бұрын

Surefire has had issues with their DF series of lights too. They flicker, and dim with the rechargeable batteries. Tons of people on reddit have run into it including me. Sent mine in and they "repaired" mine but didnt say what they fixed. Figured out its a new head with a new contact where the head contacts the battery. No more flicker but it STILL limits brightness. Definitely not the 1500 lumens advertised. Turns out the surefire tape switches cannot provide the current needed. Surefire is quiet about this. Arisaka website states that SF tape switches do limit output. I will go modlite going forward.

@CarolinaEDCreviews 7 ай бұрын

I have several of those lights and they work real well!

@philipschoonmaker7565 5 ай бұрын

What batteries?

@cidaelmccaskill5448 6 ай бұрын

I'm not saying I'm buying this light but I really appreciate an honest assessment of an off brand piece of gear. Thank you for this and please keep them coming.

@TacticalAdvisor 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I plan on doing more videos like this!

@perezanabel04 5 ай бұрын

it's Wadsn M300 M300a.. no brand marks but there is an option where you can choose what branding you like if Surefire or Wadsn & they will put it on😁

@EC3-LEO 6 ай бұрын

I run Surefire on my duty rifles, although they are pricey. I don’t trust a knockoff for that particular job, but I have bought 2 of the knockoff surefire lights for my Jakl and Diamondback which are just range toys. So far the knockoffs are pretty good, but like you said, they are not as bright. I believe they are only 400 lumens, but so far they run pretty well.

@Sonic357 5 ай бұрын

Learned a lesson on these, lol. None detachable pig tail switches are a NOGO, but the scout light clones actually work very well also there parts are interchangeable. Who's to say there not the same😂Actually changed the mounts and all

@CutlassOutdoors 6 ай бұрын

I’ll replace my Feyachi light when it fails. Might be a while. 3+ years and counting so far. Left it on for an hour to see how hot it gets - practically cool to the touch. The mount kinda sucks, but it works.

@jrossnjax7 6 ай бұрын

I've had one on my set up for over 2 years and it's only loosen up. I'll just say it's not battle tested but neither am I 😂 for home defense it's great! Spend your money on training and ammo!

@chrisspringer7788 6 ай бұрын

I have a bunch of these. Only thing that breaks is the lense. Sooo go to hobby lobby and have them cut you a piece of high tempered glass. And then your good to go

@PerazasEnterprisesInc 6 ай бұрын

I bought 4 surefire lights from Amazon. Actually runs great for my rifles. I also bought some streamlight pistol lights and I’m amazed.

@Czechmix82 6 ай бұрын

Feyachi has seriously surprised me. I've been running their flashlights on my guns with no issues. They are super bright.

@aldouslau8722 6 ай бұрын

For rifle lgihts, I have switched to Modlite for over a year, a bit more expensive than SF, but I am pretty happy with Modlite. I only keep using X300 both ultra and turbo on pistols as they are well fit with safariland & Gcode holsters

@MH_6160 6 ай бұрын

Ordered one of these for my AR22 build… perfect price for a gun with literally no recoil.

@mpdjr77 6 ай бұрын

The surefire seems to have more seals for waterproofing, among other noticeable differences. For my light-duty uses, the cheap light seems adequate. I mounted streamlight tlr1s on my G19X and G20, but I carry them a lot more frequently than my long guns. Blessings

@studentofthe556 4 ай бұрын

I have an ModLite OKW and replaced the tailcap with a Unity pressure pad, im thinking of getting a Reptilia MLok body and just buying one of these lights for sub $40 vs $300+ lol and just use the head with the Modlite tailcap 👍🏼

@joshkelsch445 6 ай бұрын

I noticed there's also a replica Cloud Rein out there for around $70 with the switch. One place on Ali will even put the CD markings on it. Please test these!

@strat1960s 6 ай бұрын

I used to get SureFire lights and Leatherman/Gerber multi-tools issued to me on each deployment. Then our shop would give out them to keep in our toolboxes. At one point I had a drawer full of flashlights and multi-tools. I can't get over the cost of Surefires and its competitors. I know when it comes to Government contracts, the other brands want to be less expensive than SureFires, yet they want to make as much money as they can. I added a couple drops of threadloc to the threads and tightened the knob down. I haven't fired it yet, so we'll see if the mount needs to be tightened more.

@EDP_every_day_pyro 6 ай бұрын

Well that explains the cost of surefires. They have a govt contract lol.

@seandanielsen8311 6 ай бұрын

Love the first defense hoodie in the beginning

@theccwdad 6 ай бұрын

Ive had this for a while now decent light very well built. A streamlight stinger was my daily for ten years as a mechanic. The price is not very fun though. I only replaced it once because it was stolen from my garage.

@theccwdad 6 ай бұрын

Fits the polymer m lok pressure switch mount perfectly

@The_urban_operator 6 ай бұрын

I run a clone sure fire light for my Airsoft 10.5 m4 and I love it, definitely gets the job done/ it is fde and has sure fire branding so big plus for me 👍

@wolfenstein8723 6 ай бұрын

Link? lol

@The_urban_operator 6 ай бұрын

@@wolfenstein8723 just copy and paste this whole thing it should show up , Flashlights Torches Tactical Surefir M600 M600C Scout Light LED 366 Lumen Flashlight Hunting...

@jmar297 7 ай бұрын

Probably made in the same factory

@danmarcell3167 6 ай бұрын

Definitely they're not

@HalfRightFlock 7 ай бұрын

I picked up this from Wish. I picked up a knock off thorntail and some other light gear to total $71. Looks like I have over $600 in light gear but it’s not.

@BruhPlz 4 ай бұрын

After a shooting session I also noticed the screw that holds the flashlight grip tight gets loose. What solution do you recommend? Maybe adding a special tape around the screw driver and then re-tighten?

@TacticalAdvisor 4 ай бұрын

I used blue loctite on the screws

@dillondixon4824 5 ай бұрын

What batteries does the amazon one take?

@prestonweidner5833 6 ай бұрын

I just bought one of these and its worth the money

@andreasantone-ford8145 6 ай бұрын

What light is that?

@JSJTOUTDOORS 7 ай бұрын

For that price I could buy that light for the body and just use arisaka lenses and button cap .

@tizben 7 ай бұрын

But you'll have weak aluminum mounted to your rifle, maybe a drop will snap off the mount in a real serious situation

@ProbNotRy 7 ай бұрын

@@tizbenyou can swap out the mount, you can use any scout mount.

@Gl0ckb1te 6 ай бұрын

Ok so that is a good idea

@jstud999 5 ай бұрын

@@tizbenI agree I just got mine lol. It’s not holding up very long.

@jstud999 5 ай бұрын

The problem is finding the Arsiaka lenses and button cap for sale. Almost impossible to find in stock.

@Markyymark662 6 ай бұрын

Noice bcm/aeroson . I have 2 bcm/m4e1’s. Always wanted to put the bcm quad rail on my 16in fixed sight post mlok rail upper. But i actually went with the mid length upper so I’d have more room on the rail and shoots a little smoother but it’s still reliable with weak ammo.

@orangexxxx3140 6 ай бұрын

I bought this same fake light but mine came with SF logos, I have been running on my AR about 500 rounds. Only issue I had is the screw gets loose I added some lock tight and had zero issues since.

@patb7723 7 ай бұрын

Truglo pr-3 is a 3x32 prism that looks awefully similar to say the swampfox trihawk 3x prism would be interesting to see how the cheap one holda up compared to the swampfox

@kodyberry7893 6 ай бұрын

I like the First Defense sweatshirt I've trained with Mark multiple times

@TacticalAdvisor 6 ай бұрын

Hes a great guy and a great instructor!

@fishingwithderek 6 ай бұрын

I baught 4 about 10 years ago off Alibaba, one has over 4k rounds though it. They were $30 back then to. Havnt had a single one break but ive always used loktite on any of my parts.

@Maurice3774 5 ай бұрын

350 for a flashlight groceries for a month in a small family home ,companies be using us so many people so into bei g like the military and you aint in the military we get caught up by things we want over need i have new monstrum light and its amazing

@TheIntellectualSlacker 7 ай бұрын

Just tape a surefire g2x to all your extra gats 🤷‍♂

@justink805 6 ай бұрын

Can you fit the surefire dual fail switch assembly on the back of the amazon version of the light?

@michaellloyd6347 6 ай бұрын

Gun vault room wow must be nice to have the infinite money perk. Some of us don't have dumb money or multiple weapons to choose from for "options". Great video review other wise, although mic quality was bad bad when you 1st appeared outside.

@bl1969 7 ай бұрын

I bought a few for my 22s and one had a sticker on it took the sticker off and the Surefire logo was under it.

@marcusd3212 6 ай бұрын

So what your saying is it had a different name sticker over surefire name? Is it a sure fire body or something?

@bl1969 6 ай бұрын

@@marcusd3212 It had a “Caution Hot Surfaces” sticker on the body and when I took it off the Surefire logo was under it.

@bl1969 6 ай бұрын

If you have an email I can send you pictures of it

@ExplorinInTheWoods 6 ай бұрын

I wonder if surefire bring based in California has something to do with pricing. I’m sure they have to pay high wages to keep employees with cost of living and I’m guessing they get taxed a lot. I’m sure they could lower prices a little bit I wonder how much.

@michaell1603 6 ай бұрын

I have a TON of lights. Olight, nitecore, fenix, basically every brand you can find on flashlight websites like battery junction. They’re advanced, bright, cheap in price in comparison, etc. HOWEVER…if I had to grab one light in a life or death scenario? I’d grab a Streamlight or a Surefire. They really won’t fail you when it’s a life and death situation. They’re the choice of military and police for a reason.

@Holden-McGroin 6 ай бұрын

I’ve had good luck with surefire, olight, streamlight. Honestly don’t see any quality difference between them. I think streamlight is a rock solid light for a reasonable price. My surefires are older, and I would never pay what they want for them now.

@SGCXD 7 ай бұрын

Maybe it’s a good option for a training set up or a loaner

@wildcard2.010 6 ай бұрын

Here goes the speed and crack hitting again

@weirdguync 7 ай бұрын

I got one of the fake x300Us for an airsoft training pistol back in 2020 to cut down on ammo costs. Last year I picked up a real x300U for actual use and was disappointed in how similarly they feel and perform.

@bong05 6 ай бұрын

thank you for this. numerous videos have already been posted and i’m confident that what i got will hopefully last (also knockoffs). but if i was a professional i would definitely buy the real thing. my life literally would depend on it. if someone would do a price comparison of the guns and accessories in the USA and Philippines you guys would be very surprised on how expensive legit tactical gear here is. it’s crazy i’m telling you. I’m from the Philippines

@lesterjohnson2621 2 ай бұрын

What does it say about surefire that somebody could come along and make a light of similar quality for 1/6 the price.....

@taylorfreeman5504 4 ай бұрын

Is the mount compatible with sure fire mounts?

@danielimbriaco3917 6 ай бұрын

i use a $70 light off of amazon its pretty good and it takes the blast from my comp

@Heisenbrick Ай бұрын

This light would make a great placeholder until you get a surefire. Especially for guns that is not your primary…. then when you get more money buy everything piece by piece since it has the same threading for the tail switch and fits the same mount. Just don’t get complacent and say “well it’s good enough.”

@declanrobinson1193 6 ай бұрын

i couldnt disagree more about brands that undercut with similar designs at a lower price point, assuming its of comparable quality to its competition at a more sustainable price I will 100% support that biggest one that comes to mind is my griffin armament GSMR which is a "knock off" of the aimpoint acro platform, coming in at $200 instead of the outrageous $600 that the aimpoints start at these large firearms accessories and manufactures have gotten full of themselves and need to get checked and held accountable to a consumer level at some degree, one example I'd like to see is from sig, they do it with their tango LPVO's where they sell their military options at a more extreme price and civ versions at much more reasonable costs with the appropriate differences

@Tatsunami_Studios 6 ай бұрын

The only reason surefire costs that much is because of the us gov contract. They mark the price up for civilians because they have to sell it cheaper to the gov. So if they raise the consumer price to $400, they can still make bank selling it to the gov for like $200. I use knock off surefires on a lot of my rifles and never had any problems with them.

@drexx4164 4 ай бұрын

Exacly this surefire probably makes about 1000% profit on civilian sales. The fact that so many people keep supporing them is pathetic. It's really sad when the CCP is doing more for the 2nd amendment than most US companies.

@zogon89 7 ай бұрын

Right? surefire is great and all, but it's not $345 dollars great.

@Pavia1525 3 ай бұрын

For around $200, you can get a Surefire head and it fits on the Chinese copy. Works great.

@CarlPapa88 16 сағат бұрын

Yeah. I spent a hair over that for the weapon. Not shelling out 8hrs worth of paycheck for a flashlight head. Then again, I'm a cheap ass. Haha

@spencerheffelfinger782 4 ай бұрын

Get the Feyachi instead. All around better and the same price.

@jstud999 5 ай бұрын

What surefire light is this compared too? I’m having trouble finding the exact model.

@yeredfarias7662 6 ай бұрын

Do some drop tests between the 2. Genuinely curious if it would survive some drops.

@Thisguy4260 6 ай бұрын

I have both. Fake x300 and scout as well as real x300 and scout. Bruh the fake ones have yet to break or stop working. Have a bunch of rounds and use through them and for like 50 bucks they are worth it

@alecubudulecu 6 ай бұрын

Would you go for this over an Olight?

@tizben 7 ай бұрын

Can you do real or rip off optic mounts! While yes i understand that a design was created by a us company. Does a block of aluminum with cuts in it really cost 80$+ ?

@Gnolomweb 4 ай бұрын

7:48 how is goontape different from cheaper hockey tape?

@johnathanlewis1645 6 ай бұрын

It comes down to.....do i buy 8 surefires for all my rifles ($2700).......OR Like 12 knockoffs... (Have a couple of backups)

@TacticalAdvisor 6 ай бұрын

Or buy a couple Surefires for your primary weapons then the rest with the knockoffs

@PDevoLi 7 ай бұрын

Tacticon armament Battletorch series are great lights and super affordable. Are they as bright as Surefire lights? No. But they come with everything you need and for Home defense they work great. I can see having one Surefire light on my main rifle, but seeing some of these guys running $400+ lights on every single weapon they own is ridiculous. I honestly think if Olight took some recommendations from the firearm community and fixed some issues on endcaps and mounts they could make an amazing weapon light that would put pressure on Surefire and Streamlight. A light system should not cost $400, our government is getting ripped off and thus the citizens of this country are getting ripped off as well.

@nmtay 7 ай бұрын

I personally wouldn't support knock-offs, but I think if you're into airsoft and you just want something cheap that looks like the real thing and doesn't cost an absurd amount more than the airsoft gun and doesn't need to stand up to the recoil of a real firearm, cheap lights and red dots that look like the real thing might be a more feasible option.

@seang1032 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I have an old 10.5 bcm build with a cmmg 22lr conversion kit i use for shooting toads and raccoons (when they're trying to get into the chicken coup) down here in south Florida. I've had a cheap streamlight hlx on there but i just bought a light through your link. I know it's a knock-off but I'm pumped to try it on my "chicken coup defender" build 😂

@TacticalAdvisor 7 ай бұрын

I think this light will be perfect for that specific build. I hope it works great for you!

@seang1032 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I'm sure it will be just fine. I picked up the streamlight hlx/CD lcs combo when cloud had them listed on their site(cerakoted in different colors). I got it in the lords color, ODG, so I'll throw it on an odg aero build

@michaelthrelkeld212 4 ай бұрын

Can this light use a scout mount? Can you remove the mount?

@TacticalAdvisor 4 ай бұрын

Yes it does and yes it can

@Svnd_man 6 ай бұрын

People talk 💩 about olight because 1 person had a user error that made it explode but for the price 😮‍💨 they just need to come out with a smaller pressure switch

@tuerevalation 6 ай бұрын

Jokes on the surefire boys because the same Chinese factory making sure fires is the same company selling the knockoff

@Pappy7064 6 ай бұрын

umm you may want to check where Surefire makes their flashlights. But keep buying from China...Soy Boy.

@N-A762 6 ай бұрын

They are made in the US🙂

@danmarcell3167 6 ай бұрын

Surefire is made by US Craftsmen not chinese slaves

@Gl0ckb1te 6 ай бұрын

Not the components, led all from china @@N-A762

@michaell1603 6 ай бұрын

Surefire and Streamlight are made in America…try again

@chrispewkreme 6 ай бұрын

You’re paying for the name. Surefire struck gold with their stupid lasers they sold to LA SWAT in the 80s. It’s good quality. But there’s flashlights just as powerful and arguably as durable for much less money.

@michaelcarr2619 6 ай бұрын

What gun were you using the Amazon light on? Just curious.

@baxterscientific 6 ай бұрын

Just got this knock off and the build quality seems legit enough. What kind of battery does it take the cr123 is too wide. Does it take "aa" batteries??

@jonsie1734 6 ай бұрын

You’re probably putting the battery in the wrong end. Try unscrewing the other side of the light.

@svpremefrank8503 3 ай бұрын

Did you find the battery it needed?

@baxterscientific 3 ай бұрын

Totally being a doofus not putting battery in correct end. I have two of these loghys and have dropped one and they work fine. Unless you are in a Markus Lutrell type situation these lights are fine. They work underwater even to about 3 feet (maybe more)