Tadej Pogačar vs Harry Mac - who would win? 🤔

[@carlrichards9333]

The subject is wasted conversation......and to ask it means these guys just don't realize how good Pogocar is, its another level lads....

[@FullBeansCyclingCompany]

We made it pretty clear that Pogacar would smoke anyone up any length of climb in the UK

[@carlrichards9333]

So you need to change the title of the link...​@@FullBeansCyclingCompany

[@boniverify]

Don't get me wrong, the top hill climb riders are super strong, but there are many world tour riders who would beat them easily. For example, Victor Campenaerts does 2 min intervals at 670w (almost 10 w/kg) in training. Everything that is longer than 1 or maybe 2 minutes is extremely strongly correlated with FTP.

[@derekvanhoose6815]

"Easily"...doubtful. What separates World Tour is they can do around 600 watts for 3 minutes at the end of a 100+ mile race/stage. Just because they can do that doesn't mean they can do much more fresh.

[@boniverify]

@derekvanhoose6815 I don't disagree. Our disagreement probably only stems from my use of "easily". With that I just mean that for many world tour riders this would not be a PR effort, but for sure such an effort hurts like hell, even for Pogi.

[@joeskipper91]

Does he really do intervals at that high a power output?

[@SanderMichiels]

​@@joeskipper91 Yeah, he talked about them in a video on his channel. 3x 2min: 1st @ 670w, 2nd @ 630w, 3rd @ 600w (he was about 68kg that time normally.)(kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIrZo6uqa92Lgtk&ab_channel=VictorCampenaerts)

[@monument_hq]

Joe! Thanks for tuning in. I used to race against you way back at Hog Hill - it's great to see you absolutely smashing the triathlon scene nowadays 🙌 ^Owen

[@Marltiod]

Pogacar did 7w/kg for 40 minutes on Plateau de Beille in the third week of the tour. I think you would be stunned how easy he would beat the other guy.

[@erlendsteren9466]

I would love to see Marc Cavendish in a hilllclimb. He is superstrong but carrys more heavy muscles than those who are climboptimized. He is able to put out extreme power after beeing a lot exhausted.

[@StopTheRot]

His numbers have always been poor. I think his main strength is probably recovery from efforts.

[@erlendsteren9466]

@@StopTheRot That and technique (and of course power and fastness), he looks like the best at aeroposition when sprinting standing, which dont help the most in climbs.

[@josephdanner773]

World tour guys would cook them. MvDP did 560w for almost 6 min. Safe to say he could hit 100w more for 2 min

[@derekevans1932]

A good comparison maybe with Ed Laverack who does more longer climbs. On Sa Colabra 10.27km Tom Pidcock has KOM 25:32 with Ed at 26:45 (very similar power). But Illi Gardner is the QOM at 31:09 - on published Strava so there could be a number that are not public. Ed has said that he is not doing the Hill Climb Champs in 2025, but he did win it in 2019? - maybe he is the only other person to have beaten Andrew Feather in recent years?

[@Aidan-tu4un]

Good memory… CB “As a senior he won four consecutive hill climb championships (from 1988 to 1991)”

[@StopTheRot]

I knew a uk pro that was 63kg and could put out 518 for 5 mins; 840 for 1 minute; 425 for 20 minutes. He’d easily have been able to do 600+ watts for 3 minutes, at 63kg. He didn’t get any higher than 6th GC in Langkawi and about 40th in Brabantse Pijl. People like Pogacar are utterly insane. As you implied, NO CHANCE!

[@colmsheahan6991]

I dunno lads, I'd say at world tour level there'd be 70kg guys that'd annihilate that guy!?

[@monument_hq]

Yeah, there would be a fair few riders who would beat Harry, but there are a surprising number who wouldn't. People seem to think that being in the WorldTour instantly makes a rider better at every single aspect of riding, but that's not really the case - hence where this fun little conversation came from. ^Owen

[@colmsheahan6991]

@monument_hq absolutely. What would be interesting is to give both the same goal for 6weeks. Which is a fresh short uphill TT. Be interesting to see how many he'd beat then. The world tour lads would have to eat Harry's diet though. Let's keep this fair!!

[@monument_hq]

@@colmsheahan6991 I love the sound of this! Though I fear Harry's diet is his secret weapon 😆😆

[@GaiusPrimusMatius]

Great content guys 😊....u've earned a new supporter😊.... cheers from Piran(Slovenia)👏🙏🐐🌈👍✌️👽🔥💪🇸🇮🇬🇧

[@monument_hq]

Thanks very much for watching! 🙏

[@Eirikkinserdal]

Pog can do this at the end of a 250km race 😅

[@bbikerlawrence]

Harry Mac the goat 🎉

[@monument_hq]

100% 👑

[@alesslapar6321]

Is this a joke😂. Harry Mas.😂

[@stevenfreeman7798]

Was a super short course though! Feather or Ed need longer course. Harry still brilliant though well deserved win

[@monument_hq]

True! Harry definitely has that short duration power that comes through on the crit scene as well.

[@FaiscaaaH]

Are you guys serious ?? LOOOL !!!!!!