Taekwondo Is Having A Major Renaissance - Kombat Taekwondo Commentary

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[@kenaultman7499]

There's a big event in WA state happening this Saturday the 19th called the Govornors Cup Tournament that's going to have it!!! They'll do the usual forms, breaking, and Olympic style. However, this is the first year they're including Kombat TKD. I will be competing in it and hope to get some decent video footage. I'm a yellow belt. However, I have about 5-6 years of Muay Thai under my belt, and have done quite a few amateur bouts and smokers. I asked my coach if I was sand bagging and he said no. If you find yourself several levels above them, try to win on points and let them live for another day. Just get the points, do some flashy stuff to impress the judges, and hopefully it shouldn't be too difficult. I was at a new dojang tonight where they were having Kombat TKD sparring to practice for the tournament. I was playing with 3-4 or their 2nd Dan and up black belts like they were little kids. I told them after sparring that I have more Muay Thai and BJJ matches than I can remember. So, don't feel bad, it's something new you'll learn, and takes time to go from one rule set to a completely different one. Where they were the most lost was if I caught their kick and swept them. They're not use to it and often leave their legs up instead of quickly retracting to get back to stance ASAP. So, a muay Thai guy like me is going to have a field day until they get use to that aspect being added. Same as striking the face, or repeating body strikes instead of throwing one with a loud kiyah. Then, hope you got your one point for it. When you can stay in the pocket and start ripping the body, that's another spot they're clueless. I wasn't mean to anyone or hurt anyone. I am usually the guy smiling and laughing during sparring. I keep it light, just like we do in Muay Thai. Soft to the head, hard to everything else for conditioning. They wear those thick vests though too. So, me ripping shots to the liver and solar plexus isn't as effective we it would be without them wearing it. That's actually going to be my strategy because we are using pretty thick head gear, with small gloves and foot pads. It's going to hurt a lot more taking those liver shots than strikes to the head. I strategize like Nick Diaz or Nieky Holtzkin by throwing at around 50-60% power. But, I keep the pressure and hit them twice as much with the very occasional hard shot mixed in when I see a big opening. Rip the body up early, wait till I see those big deep breaths, and then start digging hard down low and up top, down low and up top, repeat. A lot of using jabs and hooks to clear their hands, then land a power shot once I get one down far enough. Should be a good time! My wife is coming and should be able to get some good video. I'll let you know if she does.

[@themetal]

I want to see more of anything like this. If some obscure circuit starts trying to revitalize the combat side of an art, I want to see it.

[@MatthewNguyen-zx3de]

They don't need that. We have TKD guys in MMA that do fine while looking far better than anyone here lol.

[@Tanuvein]

Thanks for introducing me to Kombat Taekwondo. I just started learning TKD and this is the kind of stuff I love to watch. I hope you do more commentary on it!

[@FightCommentary]

Definitely will do! Thanks for tuning in!

[@secretarchivesofthevatican]

Interesting. The fact remains that all combat arts start to look remarkably similar as soon as there is full contact.

[@davcar23]

This is the TKD that should be in the Olympics and not the boring standing still waiting for the opponent to make the first move.

[@CSQuah]

The Olympics TKD uses the WTF ruleset for their matches. Believe it or not, it’s actually full contact (despite it being point fighting) and there are tons of KOs in high level non-Olympics TKD tournaments worldwide. The main reason Olympic TKD matches look like jokes is coz it happens only once every 4 years and the stakes are high, so most athletes err on the side of caution and we end up with foot fencing.

[@kenaultman7499]

​@@CSQuahI think it's from adding the sensors to the gear. Once that happened, they stopped learning to hit hard and got good at tapping sensors with their feet. That's why they do the foot fencing. Every little cut kick is 2-3 points. They made a new rule where you can only be on one foot for something like 3-4 seconds. I don't think it will help. I think they need to just get rid of the sensors altogether and go back to what they use to call a trembling strike if they're going to keep the point aspect. Trembling strike meant you had to make hard contact and cause your opponent to fall off balance or take damage. You couldn't just tap a little sensor and score. Basically, you had to hurt your opponent with the strike in some way. Hopefully, Kombat TKD is going to fix that and bring back the POWER!

[@philipnikolayev987]

This is the TKD style I was taught. Great to see it here!

[@AnaObscura]

What is the style called?

[@harryb2545]

My guess of style for their Tae Kwon Do kicking, switching and angling with semi bladed more open stances looks very much like WTF style. This is what I currently practice. However, the punching is not WTF. They do not look anything at all like ITF either.

[@AnaObscura]

@@harryb2545 tysm! I asked cuz im preparing to take TKD classes and atm WT is more appealing to me with it being full contact and focussed on high kicks. But the best quality teacher/dojang near me is more ITF, so im more inclined to go with that school. But i like what theyre doing in this vid too so i was curious if it was ITF or a different established TKD style other than ITF and WT

[@timothysalinas3535]

FINALLY ITS LOOKING LIKE 90’s and 00’s TKD AGAIN

[@NexusJunisBlue]

Vincent Meng is also an undefeated Guoshu lei tai champion, US Wushu Sanda Team member and Pan American bronze medalist, and also secured an amateur MMA debut submission victory under Made Men Promotions in Shepherdsville, Kentucky, back in February. Here, he is returning to his first love of Taekwondo, but still representing Wushu Sanda well with the signature Wushu bow/salute (抱拳礼； bàoquánlǐ, literally “holding fist courtesy”) during his walkout, great forward pressure using punches and kicks, and an under catch (外抄； wàichāo, literally "outer seizing") kick catch and dump followed by ground and pound near the end of the fight! I've said it before and I'll say it again, Vincent is one of the latest examples of how Sanda can produce some of the best fighters through cross-training, with his kicks from Taekwondo, takedowns and takedown defense from freestyle/scholastic wrestling, like Cung Le, Muslim Salikhov and Zabit Magomedsharipov, and is in my opinion the #1 pound-for-pound active US Wushu Sanda fighter right now. Having had the privilege to spar and train alongside him as a fellow US Wushu Sanda Team member, I can say he completely schooled me, I had nothing on him. No so-called pure kung fu fighter in the US, by any definition of that term, can beat him.

[@burningknuckle26]

Ok it's makes sense. His aggression is definitely from his wushu background

[@VingTsunMuseumVideos]

Nobody mentioned he has two world titles in Wing Chun also.

[@mengmao5033]

@@VingTsunMuseumVideosis there video for these competitions?

[@blackeroni]

another thing is that this was a stand up fighting match, If mma rules were allowed he probably would took down and submitted is opponent easily with Sanda take downs.

[@tactusxii]

taekwondo kicks are hella fast like whips

[@Limemill]

Just like Karate Combat they need to have a rule set favouring the use of style-specific techniques. In this case, say, give more points for tornado kicks, axe kicks and head kicks in general

[@Erime]

They should have boards hanging around to randomly break too, and a kata spot to spontaneously bust a sequence. Their fight should revolve around gaining access to those things and successfully achieving them. I'd actually watch that - fighting tactically for the glory of the art, not for some pretend 'real fight in a cage' presentation.

[@Limemill]

@@Erime This sounds a lot like a capoeira game called Jogo de Dinheiro where you place a handkerchief full of coins in the middle and the two capoeiristas try to lift it off the floor (mostly with their teeth) while fending off each other's attempts through kicks, blocking with their bodies, acrobatic moves, etc. A tactical game with a little bit of violence involved

[@henriquekatahira1653]

Great, man! Nice to see you commenting Kombat TKD.

[@CastIronFist]

Short bald TKD guy here. And I'm loving Kombat Taekwondo.

[@gokuworld]

TKD KARATE Are doing great in MMA Kung fu needs to be in MMA too

[@nickelmanful]

Cung lee used sanda during his stint in mma

[@champ1159]

Zabit Magomedsharipov and Muslim Salikhov

[@mengmao5033]

I saw the Meng boys at 2016 Sanshou nationals and have been trying to get their gym’s Meng’s Martial Arts tshirt ever since

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Great stuff! I don’t know enough about TKD hand techniques to spot any, but for the kicks, dawg it was like watching a point fighting TKD match, but full contact, which I guess that’s exactly what it was lmao

[@CSQuah]

Fun fact: WTF TKD (Olympic rules) is actually full contact with tons of KOs in every tournament. It’s still point fighting, but the blows are full contact, unlike Olympic karate where you get disqualified for KOing your opponent

[@DubiousDubs]

​@user-pu9bp7tp9x no it's not, full contact means action isn't stopped after a hit AND power isn't played down.

[@GilbertCraigHall]

@@DubiousDubs the action isn't stopped in an olympic taekwondo match

[@HeavyMetalRonin402]

TKD hands include a jab, the old reverse punch, the hook (dollyo jireugi), and the uppercut (chi jireugi). There are also palm blocks in the curriculum (Batangson makki). Also, they have a "teep" (mireo chagi).

[@CSQuah]

@@DubiousDubs the referee does NOT pause the action in WTF TKD after a hit; they only pause during clinch like boxing or during a standing 8 count after a knockdown. also they hit with FULL power; that's why there are tons of KOs in TKD. you just contradicted your own ignorance with your own statement. research the subject before talking like a tool

[@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv]

This is very similar to ITF taekwon-do where punches to the face as well as body are used.

[@juelz713]

Awesome video , this is great for taekwondo

[@rodrigokury2555]

I sent this in to you on ig, great to see your channel appreciating tkd! It's not just the silly olympic foot fencing. Thak you for reacting to this my brother

[@athenry]

Looks like the taekwondo I learned back in the late 70s.

[@Jo.A.]

cool idea Kombat Taekwondo but they should use the Kombat Karate style of arena, not this octagon

[@geryquin4214]

Bro the timing of this! 😂 So Glad Taekwondo 🥋 is testing itself like this. Give it a few years of testing and soon they'll forget about the glute kicks. We need more TMA re Emergence and a new focus on actual fighting and not point sparring. This is phase 1. Taekwondo has everything to beat out boxing. More range, far more power, the only thing is that kicking directly to the face is too risky. If Taekwondo can just evolve some good defence, and adopt more MuayThai/Kyokushin Tactics. There is no reason why they can't be feared in the ring as a style or sub style

[@bengee0ne]

This is great stuff! I was looking forward to seeing the Kombat TKD fights after seeing the commercial for that league. I was not disappointed. I'd be curious to hear the details of the rule set.

[@antoniostrina82]

To be TKD, these fighters use a lot of punches. The only good kicker was the Mexican Flores. Despite that, it's nice to see that TKD is changing in a more realistic way to fight.

[@jericho2619]

I remember as a kid in the 80s, TKD gyms were everywhere.

[@alanherculano7661]

I got the impression that it was very similar to old school american kickboxing regarding the rules, although there's ground strikes allowed in a way that resembles Karate Combat

[@jonathanrosado1090]

Yo Jerry you are about to interview my coach Hurricane Santana. Im a taekwondo guy and i learned to use the wide range of kicks to the legs and let me tell you the leg hook kick is impressive.

[@FightCommentary]

Hurricane Santana interview is on fight commentary chats

[@elcidgaming]

Long ranged homing axe kicks would do great here tbh. The meta here is like point style kicking like olympic tkd but on comps you can punch the body when you get close (that gets points if it shakes the opponent) then clinch. this time you need to actually know how to box inside. A great body hook and uppercut combinations inside will be super broken

[@mandelamohammad904]

It is good that we have karate combat and taekwondo combat. Lets hope there will be aikido combat and wingchun combat

[@elcidgaming]

This is SUPER cool. As someone who fought till regionals back in highschool in taekwondo I love this For the low kicks I assume they outlawed the low kicks.

[@MatthewNguyen-zx3de]

What's the point then. If you want TKD to translate into kickboxing, you can't just ban super common techniques.

[@elcidgaming]

@@MatthewNguyen-zx3de Idk i did not organize this lol I think they want to showcase the tkd kicks to the body and the head like taekyon. its funny that they allow the grapplings and striking downed opponents tho. Is there a place where we can read more on the mechanics? its really not clear at all and what is this league called? But all in all its great plus even in kickboxing you wont see tkd style kicking everyday

[@Wagyu_Jubei]

BJJ/Judo guy here, I think TKD is cool!

[@maxboucher86]

taekwondo in America has been watered down but the taekwondo that I saw in China back in 2008 was very different. It contained elbows and knees for example

[@kobet7341]

This league reminds me of karate combat, but for taekwondo

[@partyeslife8157]

7:00 why these dudes look like they were forced to compete lol

[@badfoody]

This is interesting cause the TKD people just go to Karate Kombat but cool for them to have their own ring.

[@digitalg00dtimes58]

I see the Karate Combat inspiration so props for trying something new. But even KC seems to be more laxed with the styles of their fighters. So I don't know what the longevity of something like this.

[@ComicusFreemanius]

Frame rate made me pull a muscle in my frontal lobe.

[@WadahSubaihi]

Very good. Could you please upload a video about qinna gedou?

[@The_true_Joe_mama]

Nice

[@tacocatdeboss7665]

Me personally I actually don't like this approach to updating sport Taekwondo very much. IMO it just turns it into another Karate Combat clone/Subpar kickboxing. The sport form of Taekwondo should emphasize the strengths of the art. Like how the rules of boxing emphasize punching to the point where there is simply no one better at punching. Taekwondo has somewhat lost that edge over the years. I'd like to see a rule style implemented that isolates kicking, but allows more targets and rewards damage in its scoring. All that being said, I do think it's nice that this creates better availability of full contact competition for traditional martial artists who wish to round out their skillset.

[@nicholasjavier8747]

Vincent meng is son of wing chun gm benny meng

[@FightCommentary]

Thats cool!

[@VingTsunMuseumVideos]

Nobody mentioned Vincent Meng has two world titles in Wing Chun also.

[@Adiarby13]

this looks like the OG kickboxing before kickboxers learned how to do leg kick from muay thai

[@HappyHealthyKarate-Do]

Pretty sure the leg kicks came from kyokushin. Japanese kickboxing came later on, after Thai fighters put even kyokushin karateka on the ground.

[@MrRourk]

What about Hapkido?

[@MrGavo1978]

All full contact striking ends up looking like kickboxing 😂

[@deanthephilosopher9486]

You could call it all kickboxing, but the styles are still different in terms of strategy and shot selection.

[@Egg_of_the_King]

To the untrained eye, yes. But if you have actually watched combat sports or trained in them long enough you can pick up on stylistic characteristics.

[@MrGavo1978]

@@Egg_of_the_King I kickboxed for 30 years :) wrestled for 4 years, jujitsu (Japanese) for 4 years

[@swordman37]

Saying it all looks like kickboxing is as cringe as saying all anime looks the same…

[@burningknuckle26]

It's looked like kickboxing way before kickboxing was even a thing

[@des6853]

No standing grappling or clinch but you can fight on the ground??

[@MrAwak3]

Does the Kukkiwon have an issue if a dojang practices this sparring? I love taekwondo, nothing can teach you to kick better but I stopped training after getting my black belt because of the emphasis on Olympic style sparring.

[@SeboJ-i9l]

Kombat taekwondo looks exactly like american kickboxing but without the long pants

[@hongchin7838]

This looks more like Yongmudo(용무도) than Taekwondo

[@blaa443blaa2]

as a tkd practitioner myself, I really enjoyed this. Fights were interesting and commentary was geat

[@kenaultman7499]

No leg kicks or checking is allowed and are fouls. If you sweep or trip, you get 10 seconds of ground and pound. No double legs or single leg takedowns.

[@neokimchi]

What's cool about Kombat TKD regardless of these fights is that the organization is actually a big development effort. They have an amateur league thing going for various levels including for kids, and it's all an attempt to really bring realism to the training and fighting. However successful or not, it's a way more noble, earnest, and ambitious attempt at contributing to the evolution of a style than Karate Combat, which at this point is just a dumpster fire

[@karinneeskens]

posted 18 sec ago :)

[@FightCommentary]

That means you’re first

[@AngryGrape1337]

You can thank Anderson Silva for that.

[@peterodonnell4404]

Standard Tae Kwon Do training and competition is very linear, so practitioners who have not trained in other arts tend to have very little idea of how to move in a free fight. The reason that they don't attack the legs, again, is that attacks below the waist are illegal in Tae Kwon Do. As obvious as it might seem, it is trained out of them because an attack below the waist is an immediate point against them. As a former Wing Chun practitioner now training Tae Kwon Do, I find it very difficult to refrain from attacking the legs and punching the head. Everything I am good at is illegal!

[@LauraTeAhoWhite]

Why hold the event in a cage if there is no grappling?

[@ShinigamiTheReaper]

I wonder if they'd let a Karateka compete...

[@FightCommentary]

That would be awesome! Karate vs Taekwondo!

[@Seven-not-Six]

What TKD do I want to see?... I think its already there, it's just how it's implemented. I sparred with an Muay Thai guy for a tiny bit and didn't really try like that because he had a fight that weekend and ... Mmmm. You can tell that TKD is mocked over there. It's okay though. I'm not going to be giving doubt any benefits from now on. As gentle giant as I am. Not wanting to hurt people.. It's really only for Police and Aikido.. To the Argentinian. I'd say, lateral movements.

[@MMAWARRIOR20]

Why, though? Isn’t taekwondo basically shotokan karate with rearranged kata and a different sparring rule set? How is that different from karate Kombat?

[@FightCommentary]

Karate kombat doesnt allow thigh kicks, i believe.

[@mengmao5033]

If they can build a watchable product/ruleset with willing competitors, it’s a combat sport worth having

[@rodrigokury2555]

Legs kicks aren't allowed in kombat tkd I believe

[@Brykk]

Theres parts of this fight that look like fights i saw on the playground in grade school. There were flashes of better fighting. Cant say id watch a lot of this style of fighting.

[@TheJOSULINI]

I dont like that they need to look like UFC to seem relevant, they should try being their own thing as karate combat done his own thing to become relevant. In my opinion they should go back to 80s TKD with vest and that stuff, it was kind of unique in its own way. Like a full contact WTF TKD.

[@Adiarby13]

or just do it ITF TKD's way lol

[@DAVID-io9nj]

For me, just another variation of sport fighting. Why? Slightly different rules dictate slightly different tactics.

[@heath5305]

Not maung, meng like the meng dynasty.

[@lipfried]

"Brasileño"? That hurts me LOL (speaking the word "brazilian" with spanish accent can be triggering for some people because brazilians speak portuguese, not spanish lol)

[@ajw9975]

I'd expect to see ITF heavily represented in these kinds of competitions, perhaps Tand Soo Do and others. Definitely not WTF.

[@FightCommentary]

Maybe some old school WT people will feel inspired to join

[@MatthewNguyen-zx3de]

This is a rough watch, they look very low tier. TKD guys can, and have got it done in kickboxing and MMA. They don't need this, they just need to train other stuff.

[@simonfilippov2609]

If you train taekwondo, once you get good at kicks, switch martial arts.

[@carlosvidal559]

I like It but, is really not a renaissance or has nothing to do whit old tkd or wathever. Old tkd is Just like old karate, lots of forms and combined moves but little to none sparring. People think a 19th century karateka or any old tkd master would be better than a fighter from today, is absurd, they would look like those Kung Fu masters that got beatup in chine.