Tahoma 31 vs Tifway 419 Bermudagrass - What's the Difference? Which is Better?

[@TheLawnShark]

Personal experience and take are alway appreciated. There is marketing and then there is reality.

[@travisburch4342]

There’s hardly any tahoma 31 content online! I’ve been scouring for it. Great video! I’d love to see a bunch of close up video to really get an idea for what it’s like. Sounds like it grows slower vertically but faster laterally. I’m obsessed with this cultivar. Tiftuf is so similar to Tifway.

[@kailb.1817]

Tiftuf is actually very similar to Tahoma31. I have Tiftuf in my front yard but I'm considering Tahoma31 in my backyard.

[@jerrykay1137]

Where do you live in texas a few providers have it

[@bmoney415]

Love this Vid! I have Tifway 419 in the front yard and after watching y’all’s videos decided to go with Tahoma 31 for a backyard reno. Just got 8,000 sq ft put down 5 days ago. My landscaper wanted to do tifway and I responded, “You should watch the Lawn Tools!”For real though, I talked to two sod farms that had celebration, tifway, and tahoma - each one independently raved about tahoma and said it was the best.

[@TheLawnTools]

😂👍🏼

[@bobzilla6618]

Sounds like the Tahoma 31 is the winner 🏆. Sounds like an amazing strain of grass 👍. I like this style of video. Keep it up.

[@dennisrodriguez4066]

Excellent comparison. Thanks for sharing this with us!

[@centralsod]

It's true!! We are the only grower of Tahoma 31 plugs and right now we only sell them on Amazon. Thank you for sharing the link!!

[@jeffsmith6837]

I ordered and planted a 100 plugs to try from Amazon almost 6 weeks ago and hardly any difference . I just recently realize plugs will take a long time to fill in.

[@richardnettles7481]

Awesome comparison! It makes me want to sponsor a Tifgrand green at the new place for a direct comparison with T31. Congrats on 50k subscribers - and another 10k this month!

[@TheLawnTools]

You really are our biggest fan. Left Tool didn’t even notice the growth! 😂

[@PanchoPringles]

@The Lawn Tools , I have Tahoma 31 from Riverview Sod. Due to lawn needing leveling and a giant zero turn mower, I have been mowing at 3+” all season. The best looking part of my lawn is super thick and has never had a single seed head. Parts of the lawn, presumably with the most NPK deficiency has not grown quite as thick and has frequently had seed heads. So, there is at least some experience around with high Tahoma. I also agree that it seems to have less brown stalk.

[@WPS-se9dq]

So as a fellow Razorback fan, I too remember when the Hogs got their new grass. The wear tolerance is why a lot more sports fields are going to Tahoma 31 turf. The turf is in my opinion is the best. Walking the Hogs turf I can see the difference in the turf. Keep up the great content Jordan. Also would love to see your area. Hog fan from Fort Sill, OK. Woo Pig Sooie, Razorbacks!!

[@TheLawnTools]

Woo Pig!

[@devonotwell]

@@TheLawnTools easy with the “woo pigs” guys!! War Eagle all day! (😂 I’m just bantering but you guys keep getting better and better and Auburn is being Auburn and questionable at best!) Love the video as usual man! -The_Grass_Ninja

[@TheLawnTools]

@@devonotwell We have a War Eagle here in Hog country too so that’s not really special 😬😉

[@devonotwell]

@@TheLawnTools 😂🤣🦅

[@papamowslow196]

Great comparison and info. I will definitely go with 31 in my next lawn. Heck, I may buy some of those plugs and see how it interacts with 419 in my current lawn

[@PacificNorthwestLawns]

I just want to see it in person one day... 😁

[@kove]

Well, that answers my question! Surpee helpful video man. 👌

[@dorse72]

great video, watched this like 3x now, down to doing Zeon Zoysia, Tiftuf, or Tahoma 31, they all look great, I'm in north Dallas, Tiffway always looks like dogcrap in Aug, cut it at 1", maybe worms/grubs, dont treat for them like I should, do Milorganite, and spray a 12-x-x every month, cut twice/week. BTW, TPC Craig Ranch going with Tiftuf just announced a major complete renovation of the PGA event here in north Dallas. luv ur channel man! didnt think you could cut 419 down to that short wow!

[@chasebrunn8415]

While I dont have Tahoma 31 with my 419. I do have Latitude 36 in the front, with 419 in the back. I've noticed the 419 grows nearly 3x as fast as the Latitude and isnt as dense as the Latitude. I think we're seeing what new technology and new varieties are able to do for us.

[@chrism9976]

Getting my T31 sod installed in a month or so for my backyard. Landscaper is charging an arm and a leg, so once I grade/level my front yard, I'll scarify the back and use it to sprig the smaller front yard. Can't wait.

[@jordangolson4508]

Definitely formulating plan for my next house for turf. Really interested in celebration bermuda but Tahoma definitely interesting to watch

[@thegreenandgoldlife1464]

Great comparison mate

[@lefttool7928]

“And it is” y’all heard it!!

[@SunnyBermuda]

☀Great video! I have 419, too, and have been looking at adding a Celebration section for testing. War Eagle! 🦅

[@johnfetter3252]

I put some Celebration plugs in some bare spots in Tifway 419. The Celebration is thicker, finer bladed, and noticeably greener. It goes Dormant later than the Tifway. Very pleased with it.

[@SunnyBermuda]

@@johnfetter3252 Excellent! Yes, I've heard great things about this turf. Look forward to using it.

[@spinmartin5594]

Great review!! Love it!!

[@chuckytm]

I have a stand of Tifgrand so thick i cant find the dirt anymore. Its no point even fertilizing it with granular at this point its so thick. Its like a thick carpet. I have it set at .4 and i do plan on just removing the tifway 419 altogether next season hopefuly.

[@hogrydr100]

Thanks for the great video. It helped make up my mind which sod to have installed

[@richardharwell]

Have you ever tried using a piece of plastic lattice as a turnaround board on your greens so you do not get where marks ?

[@henrycanan]

Here in Arizona i grew up in the valley that developed Princess 77 and have 1000sqft on my faraway yard. Its 1/2 tall and super tight i cut it every 2 days and the 1/3 rule doesn’t apply lol it grows like gang busters! My new putting green is TifGrand and i got that in Sod , i mow it at 3/8 right now being its only 6months old. Its a finer blade than P77 and its way more shade tolerant but its was sensitive to cutting. The color on the TifGrand is darker than the P77. But the P77 is far more durable. U can take a divot with a wedge and its grown back in a week !

[@nickbransgrove3545]

Great video mate loved it!

[@rizocars6115]

Great video, i have celebration and i always wondered how tahoma would look.

[@andrewhawkins7205]

Looking good man! Gonna ask my landscaper if he can get me some Tahoma 31. Got some front yard grass to start up!

[@TheLawnTools]

You will love it Andy! There is a Tahoma 31 sod farm in our old stomping grounds but I would bet there is one closer to you also

[@ShinerBockGirlz]

It sounds like tahoma 31 is actually growing faster than the other one, its putting its energy into density instead of height. Can you link some of the good facebook groups? Love the channel!

[@bryanduncan6255]

I've seen many of your videos, love the videos and content... so today I need to buy a pallet of bermuda to patch a section in my front yard after adding extra soil to get above the rocks the builder left behind. I'd seen an article about the Tahoma 31, living in Tulsa it's available just south of me. Wondering if putting the Tahoma 31 in the middle of an Astro bermuda lawn would be a mistake? My hope would be the Tahoma would spread into the Astro and take over.

[@TheLawngineer]

If you’re ever in Jersey, let’s go to Tuckahoe Turf Farms to see all the Tahoma 31 they grow for the professional sports teams.

[@johnhamilton9229]

It takes both of them to make your yard so beautiful. I would love a 3 minute drone video.

[@canweshoot]

The two cultivars are likely to have somewhat different care and maintenance guidelines. I'm not sure from the video that mowing recommendations for each have been observed so that we are comparing apples to apples. Tifway 419 has a 1/2" minimum mowing height, thrives at 1/2" to 3/4", and is sensitive to the "one-third rule." The Tahoma 31 site lists 5/8" as minimum nominal mowing height. I'm not sure who would recommend scalping in warm season for any reason if the one-third rule is not observed. It looks as though your Tifway 419 is a bit stressed due to mowing. Perhaps more tolerance of mowing habits is desirable and Tahoma 31 has that. That's fine, but properly maintained Tifway 419 here in Arizona looks considerably more consistent in color and density at 1/2" to 3/4" than yours photographs. That said, a lot of Tifway 419 is installed here, but in lawns of folks who are not enthusiasts like us, and they allow it to grow way to long and cut way too infrequently with rotary mowers. I wouldn't be surprised that Tahoma 31 is superior for your climate in Arkansas since winters can get pretty brutally cold (I grew up in Ft. Smith). Perhaps Tifway 419 just doesn't stay as strong there due to the harshness of the winters? Don't know. What do you think? Go Hogs!

[@whitenep]

What about the solar panels?

[@Lambossin]

Wow what a great video

[@wilsonline90]

If you can, plz add the link of the company selling the plugs. I started collecting grasses and this is on top of what I want.

[@wilsonline90]

thanks

[@EaveeDoesIt]

Nice comparison! Now do a comparison with your Ironcutter 👀

[@tylermoody5300]

My only complaint about my tahoma31 is that’s it’s to thick and my mower floats on top of the grass and won’t let it cut true are you having this same issue

[@richardportelli1983]

Scalp and verticut/scarify

[@kkevinj1]

good problem to have

[@93me11]

Which grass will dominate the other if they are going in the same area? Tahoma or 419?

[@ZakariahSH]

Great video. Is there any dormancy period difference? How many months dormant?

[@mowtime]

great info. Thanks mate 👍 How is Tahoma as a green?

[@-doughnuthole-]

Looking for the Amazon link for the Tahoma31 but don't see it. Looks like an amazing new turf.

[@TheLawnTools]

Oh sorry. I add it now.

[@TheLawnTools]

amzn.to/3Rhd0Q3

[@garrettscott4094]

Is the Monaco even worth mentioning/comparing?

[@lefttool7928]

It’s in 3rd place lol

[@kkevinj1]

@@lefttool7928 easy now lol he gave it no love/ no chance 😁 I have monaco but ya 3rd place but good stuff

[@mariomene2051]

Would there be an athletic grass you would recommend? You seem to prefer Tahoma 31 here, but is there another you would prefer above Tahoma 31?

[@Alex-ss4bk]

1:09 nice! Just found out that was where my builder got our sod!

[@eshott2935]

Going to do a comparison to the iron cutter?

[@brandonhyden9454]

Wondering how tahoma 31 would fair in Kansas City area. Is there one you prefer over the other?

[@TheLawnTools]

One what?

[@dorse72]

your far north for bermuda, would go with zoysia, seems to tolerate cold better

[@dorse72]

you need to do a cut then a putting contest so we can see how they roll, set up a USGA Stimpmeter :)

[@1330rwhite]

I am considering doing a putting green using tahoma 31, I’m curious what the final putting surface looks like and how it rolls? How fast do you think it could be and what is your recommended mow height. Thanks

[@TheLawnTools]

I mow mine at 0.15” and it doesn’t roll like a true pitting green if that’s what you are after. The ultra dwarf is way different - better for putting

[@anthonykontos7931]

I’m thinking about doing this on a new bulit house here in va . Wonder if it can handle dogs and kids well?

[@BradleyGandy-dk2gx]

Do you think this would work on greens in central Texas?

[@jerrykay1137]

Celebration is very soft to walk on.. i have 419 celebration and tahoma 31. Tahoma is much darker in color. Given a choice. Celebration most soft. Tahoma 31 uses less water less mowing..

[@tretre1692]

Which herbicide do you use or prefer?! Can you try to go to that sod farm?! Id love to see a tour of that! Ive got Yukon seed, it is VERY slow at germinating but once it gets going, if you fertilize it, it starts to take off! I also mightve burned it a little as i have a TON of weeds, probably of every type on every type of label lol

[@kkevinj1]

I planted Monaco this year, Im leaving the weeds alone and focusing on growth so I can use pre emergent this fall, nothing negative for 1 growing year is best

[@josholivarez3804]

whats the best way to get tifway 419 to spread? i laid some sod down in late march of this year and its just not doing what I want it to do lol. so here's my story. live in San Antonio, TX. laid it late march. looked great up until late June and started to realize I kept it to high and mainly kept it at 3inches because it looked good at that height, well I listen to some people online how bermuda does better cut shorter so I went for it. started in early July cutting twice a week and getting as low as 1inch in a matter of 3 weeks. now its brown, I just sprayed some nitrogen (6-0-0) and Iron .75-0-0 but its only been a couple days and yes I'm noticing some green pop out just not as much as Id like. what do you suggest? my biggest worry is I'm either putting down to much water or possibly not enough in certain areas with my waterhose sprinkler setup. (4 gear drive rainbird sprinklers in 4 corners of yard) to overlap at certain times in the morning. usually, it will be mon, wed, Friday and sunday at 30 min per 2 sprinklers. any help is appreciated, this is for anyone to helpout lol.

[@bigredwag]

How quickly does the tahoma recover from damage??

[@tylermoody5300]

I did a hard hard scalp on mine and it was back to 100% in just over 2 weeks

[@JoseA1981]

Winning

[@samuelasamoah6906]

Does any golf course in the US use Tahoma31 on greens?

[@TheLawnTools]

My little city municipal course does on a few but the entire course is garbage.

[@samuelasamoah6906]

@@TheLawnTools lol, do you see any PGA golf course having that as greens 2) I also want to know if it's natural colour is dark green? Or lime green?

[@TheLawnTools]

@@samuelasamoah6906 It’s dark green. Beautiful. No I don’t think any PGA golf courses would since it isn’t an ultra dwarf

[@samuelasamoah6906]

@@TheLawnTools but I was told it can be cut as low as an ultra dwarf, true or false?

[@TheLawnTools]

@@samuelasamoah6906 I mean…. Fescue CAN be cut as low as ultra dwarf but that doesn’t mean it will stay thick and healthy and roll a good ball well… I’m not saying it can’t. I just doubt big courses are rushing to replace their ultra dwarf varieties just yet.

[@b.j.bayless7793]

You heard of or seen Ironcutter?

[@jackjenkins5160]

I could do without the background music

[@thomashurst6863]

I'm moving every 5 months that what we do

[@killerrush77]

great, going to kill off my freshly layed 419 and put down 31

[@dorse72]

😆

[@klcollins9]

Get a turning board for your greens

[@trevormuggeridge4560]

First Aussie 😁

[@txmball1993]

Now vs st augustine.

[@txmball1993]

@@wayneessar7489 ¿Comó comó?

[@JEK]

not a sports turf

[@txmball1993]

@@JEK not with that attitude

[@dorse72]

st augustine sucks, I have it in my side yard, for older homes w huge trees and canopies, loves water, giant runners, cant stand it, cant mow it low either

[@scottlarkin4748]

Love it

[@johnblevins2248]

Bimmi is the absolute best Bermuda.... So thick it feels like your walking on pillows....

[@Novasawildone]

Next time could you please turn off the music, it was incredibly distracting and made it very difficult to hear you.

[@dorse72]

didnt even notice the music - there was music? ur the only one complaining about it lol

[@mirroreffectdetail6286]

TiffTuff is awful, it's the most thatchy bermuda on the planet by far

[@Striperman]

Try saying them both 10 times fast. Talk about a tongue twister lol. One day I will see it in person .👍💚🦸