Tai Chi Master Called Out On Stage - Hilarious Push Hands Fail

[@sifuniko]

Great video! I'm glad you're calling these fakes out! They are poisoning my art and making it look terrible... He wouldn't stand a chance with me, im someone who is an actual expertise at Tai Chi and has battle tested the art! 🤗

[@AlexDhyan]

do you have any proof of your words?

[@sifuniko]

@@AlexDhyan Look me up! ✅😘

[@AlexDhyan]

i have found only demonstration videos and no real fight or at least full contact sparring

[@sifuniko]

@@AlexDhyan considering this video is push hands maybe look up my push hands.

[@fistandantilos]

​@@sifuniko sorry, I dont get the point, is a martial art ou pushing hands art? how do u aply that in a combat?

[@skipsch]

Alan Watts said it best when he said if anyone presents a discipline that's really rigid and weird then people will be like ah now this is it, this is the real thing

[@skipsch]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n16Wc4Nvqd6BnKsm20s Alan Watts quote reference

[@skipsch]

"Watts was a drunk and drug abuser. Who cares what he has to say." Well problem with humans is we need such a perfect source for truth, rather than knowing how to let truth stand on its own

[@StimParavane]

Alan Watts was not a practitioner.

[@tranquil2706]

@@StimParavane No, but he was a thinker!

[@Nattapong69]

Uhhh, no they won't. Most people are normies. Show them something unique and they will avoid it like the plague.

[@DataGeek903]

Obviously the audience member had his right toe up, and his tongue on the roof of his pallette. Everyone knows that defeats chi power, esp the no touch dim mak.

[@DarkstreamLIVES]

Plus... the audience member was a total non believer

[@Fritz999]

How about Dim Sum?

[@deltahunter2302]

Hahahhaa.. Are you a joker?

[@richarddeerflame]

The audience member actually has got some training, he isnt a nobody.. you can see it clearly.

[@elenchus]

it's one thing to debunk a master in MMA, with thousands of new variables, but to debunk them within their own claimed sphere of expertise is even more effective

[@chrisgermann6658]

The audience member was not a believer so he was able to nullify it. :)

[@mizukarate]

Had a similar situation with my Wing Chun teacher. First he was a good martial artist but had holes in his game. So Sifu tried to lock up in a wrestling clinch with me(I wrestled in HS). He told me to resist and not let him throw me. This was in front of a crowd and I meekly protested. However he insisted we locked up. So we locked up and I resisted. Sifu tried over and over. Eventually he gave up and waved me away. Oh well.🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@kevinlobos5519]

This just shows that some of these people are actual lifelong martial artists and not pretenders, they don't intend to scam their students, they actually believe they are fighters or that they have developed a skill applicable to fighting through the years of training.

[@Fritz999]

Possible, but not likely.

[@JIMA-Club]

That's not some random guy, but a skilled practitioner. Seems to that berating a guy for loosing runs counter to the principle of testing oneself.

[@mario6814328]

They always do it with their own students for this reason

[@ProgramasespiasNet]

Thanks for this great channel, I wish I could understand chinese so your translations are appreciated. I will probably just be a troll in defense of fake martial arts but it's still a great channel.

[@waynet8953]

One of the key differences is the sensitivity of the master; it allows him to stay ahead of the opponent in response.

[@---Free-Comics---IG---Playtard]

This is the answer I was looking for, the random dude from the crowd obviously knew the form for pushing hands as you can see them follow it - while raising their hands. Many don't understand this "dance" because they have never "pushed hands" before. The close proximity and slow movement aligned with your partner is only half of the exercise, wherein strike opportunities are traded. Just because the random got a few strikes doesn't mean the master failed. As you said "mastery" in Tai Chi (from my understanding) is that of sensing and perceiving - allowing "energy out".

[@I_Might_B_Wrong]

Congrats on taking care of your teeth, my friend! I just finished getting mine straighted a couple months ago and am 32 years old. Takes some confidence to do in adulthood.

[@FightCommentary]

I"m doing it for my bite. I've never chewed well, so that's why I decided to get braces.

[@I_Might_B_Wrong]

@@FightCommentary Nice! I did mine because I wanted 4 chipped teeth fixed so I'd look more professional at work. I had to get them straightened first in order for the chips to be fixed because the teeth needed room for material to be added. It's been life changing more than I expected.

[@thenameless2379]

Tai Chi is only for relaxing and strengthen one's mind and find inner peace. It's not for combat. Tai Chi Quan is for combat. However I highly recommend Tai Chi for inner peace.

[@qualitylife8195]

Practitioner's side affects the effectiveness

[@anonimuso]

The next time I see an old person doing Tai Chi in the park, I'm going to go challenge them to a push hands contest.

[@WhoThisMonkey]

I challenged them to a bare knuckle boxing match.

[@Joobkl]

Has to be at perfect location, time, air must be fresh and stars aligned

[@angelopaolo]

Taichi is not for fighting, it's like yoga. Suppose to be a breathing exercise and slow movement

[@taichipandabat6153]

don't let anyone hear you.....many times MMA and UFC fighters go to test actual Tai Chi Masters and totally got a different result and most of them totally appreciates Tai Chi, Tai Chi Chuan means Supreme Fist or Ultimate Fist.

[@ariturbo4094]

This create a big laugh to original Tai chi

[@MMZS528]

quick question: since tai chi is proving to be not useful in combat situations even drills, what is its benefit? Really want to know

[@markmacreadie8068]

In my humble opinion, 99% of people who practice Tai Chi don’t do it for the martial fighting aspect it so to find someone who can actually use it is rare indeed, most people who say they can are deluded or frauds. It’s martial side has become now just pushing practice / push hands which is the first stage in learning how to fight with Tai Chi. Unfortunately that’s as far as most so called masters delve into it. Done properly it’s no different to any other form or martial arts, just rare to find a teacher who does that.

[@LunaticReason]

I have seen and experienced some legit applications of Tai chi although I am not saying it would be a tremendous asset in a fight. Anyways here are a couple of people of practicing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqGXmZlvm82tqZI People stumble back and sometimes takes awhile for them to regain their balance which looks like flying back while others they regain balance immediately. The push is simply knowing someone's weight distribution and breaking their contact to the ground abruptly. A demonstration of short power. ie what you see in a one inch punch. I doubt anyone of them is a master but here is a clip of someone pushing their partner and "Flying" back maybe not as far in your clip. In the case of your video there is a high probability that the person being pushed was trying to shine on the master and play for the camera to make him look good. However the person in mine I doubt did it for the same reason so either they where pushed with such force or they are completely exaggerating buy why? It could even be on a subconscious level reacting in such a manner idk. I think its something similar to how people practice in Aikido. It's easier to go with a fall or throw than risk injury resisting so they've built up this habit in responding in that manner. Works better when there isn't much opposition to what you are doing or the factors in a fight are in your favor. That is usually vs someone surprised or inexperienced in fighting but roles reversed getting attacked by someone who is trained is a big disadvantage. You can't expect moves to always be perfectly executed. Often they will fail because that is the nature with fights. Its like failed judo throw or bjj submission. The problem is people treat tai chi like some magical power which it isn't its just a skill vs someone else skill to defend.

[@carlzdbz5633]

Don't laugh until you test the Malay martial art "Silat Gayong" qi power, come to Malaysia and test the grandmaster of Silat Gayong

[@neutrino78x]

Not everybody who instructs martial arts is a master, come on now. And we've already seen what an actual Shaolin Fighting Monk does when he goes into MMA, Shi Yanzi, the head of the Shaolin Temple branch in London, has done some MMA matches and he won. And Xei Wei, who is not a Shaolin Fighting Monk but trained there for four years, has done very well in MMA.

[@sule3841]

Lol...bullshitho, this is kitty crawl meow, watch out for tiger crawl then dragon fly kick oh and last of all donkey kick fool

[@TheRAYviewYT]

Not Tai-Chi….. Bull-shido….🤣

[@stephenengstrom5611]

Obviously the audience member knows something or has done martial arts before. Technique will only go so far.

[@markdonovan1540]

The form he demonstrates looks like Sun style, not Wu style. Being a lineage holder or taught by specific teachers is not a qualification of ability. However, it's sometimes used to try and market a particular school or method of training. Unfortunately, just like any discipline of skill, there are genuine and not so genuine practitioners. Many of the genuine ones will not be found on KZbin or issuing challenges to other people - it's social media, so all kinds of rubbish is out there. That's not to say there aren't some good examples of real skills and accomplished practitioners, but better research is needed to find them.

[@stanlee4765]

He is not a real tai chi master. Go try sifu Adam Mizner or Gin Soon Tai Chi They will show you what real tai chi is. The challenger has martial backgroung. What he did was when the master tried to push him, he yield thus rendering his push useless.

[@ycming]

Can you do one on Adam mizner, he's the biggest bull shitter

[@johnbarry3541]

Not a good example, the guy is not trying anything.

[@Fede-xw9zz]

Actualmente the tai chi guy has silla in WhatsApp he is doing... its Just not for fighting...

[@Fede-xw9zz]

Has skill

[@svensvensson627]

Hahaha

[@The_Ballo]

Mashter?

[@bobbyjolene916]

It doesn't work on non believers.

[@mahmoodsaciid--9467]

these so called teachers are ridiculous.

[@danielburgess7785]

Can't BS live video.

[@Scientists_dont_lie]

Wow. Kinda feel a bit cringe on this vid. Can't help but feel bad for the master. Nonetheless, it must be shown.

[@mickwalker9032]

That looks total b s

[@kellyburket6955]

Obviously you and that "student" don't understand push hands. You should never run your mouth about things you know nothing about.

[@emptyemptiness8372]

Seriously I would expect a student after 1 yr of training in any taijiquan school to have that level of skill because it's beginners level. It student giving master a "feed", anyone can learn that in 1 class....the fact it is regarded as a skill of a "master " in China is shameful....and to think it was probably only 3 generations from the skilled boxer/royal Bannerman who founded this Wu lineage down to this rubbish.....which is a pity because Wu is very technical and the lineage has a history of very skilled practitioners. Nice LOOKING form though......

[@bashlivingstonstampededojo882]

When it comes to actual fighting Tai chi is mostly useless you can take some of the principles and concepts but in actuality it doesn't even seem to work against the average person unless the Tai chi guy does some cross training or pressure testing

[@nyhyl]

Not only pressure testing but also actual sparring is part of any alive Taijiquan school.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

what are you talking about? why would it be useless? It has strikes, weapons and grappling. Just train at a school where they train to fight.

[@bashlivingstonstampededojo882]

@@emilianosintarias7337 not totally useless if it's done correctly too many people don't train it properly

[@emilianosintarias7337]

@@bashlivingstonstampededojo882 If trained properly, i doubt there is a better choice for unarmed stand up grappling

[@bashlivingstonstampededojo882]

@@emilianosintarias7337 I would think there's still better choices for grappling don't get me wrong there's some grappling in it I think part of the problem is a lot of traditionalist don't pressure test anything that's the reason why a lot of traditionalist keep losing to Brazilian jiu jitsu and mma because they're sparring and pressure testing they're up against resisting opponents

[@davidecapps65]

This is so embarrassing.

[@ytb460]

There are too many cultural influence that explain bad taichi and gong fu in general in China. From pushing artists to flee the country or hide and practice in secret to students always giving face to dated training methods and a lack of contact which makes sense as medical bills are expensive. There is also patriotism issue. If tai chi and gong fu are bad and learning Chinese the old way doesnt work then what is left?

[@pohutukawajay]

That random guy waited his whole life for this very moment.

[@Joobkl]

He's now at a re-patriotism camp

[@FlatlandMando]

And judging by the relative ease that he became somewhat credible skills against " mastery", many & many others would like to try this challenge

[@josephgammora3405]

As an aging fighter (43 y/o) who's cross trained a lot, some tai chi principles are really helpful in a fight (relaxation amidst intensity, distributing weight down to make me harder to throw, etc...), and tai chi has remained an awesome exercise for join strength and micro-muscles that don't get hit in weight training. As with most of your vids, pressure testing is key, and if you're just using one system to fight, you're gonna have a hard time.

[@neokimchi]

yeah I'm not an older guy but i train tai chi quite a bit. i like tuiso but initially didn't think it was that productive, until i had my first bjj session in a long time, and suddenly found myself having a MUCH easier time finding strength and structure without burning a ton of muscle energy. it was not subtle. but push hands as a sport is a different conversation, and honestly this guy does not seem be at a high level in it. he's just a master of the forms i guess.

[@shinrikiway9889]

I use my taichi against all sorts of styles, and it's been effective so far- nice to see a fellow martial artist employing neijia principles!

[@wolf360090]

nothing but a waste of time studying it

[@SolidStructureWC]

Tai Chi is less useful than Yoga.

[@Catgat37]

I am 40. And also have trained multiple styles in my life. I recently was taking a Taijiquan class from a guy who spent 30 years as a green beret hand to hand combat instructor. He of course integrated different styles into the class. But the core of his system was deeply rooted in Taijiquan. I just wish I could keep taking it.

[@ikkong8436]

I believe most times students of taiqi masters just feel intimidated or respectful of their masters and just follow the flow of his master. A non student will not do likewise and in this video it just showed that a non student cannot be easily shoved off. There may be many genuine masters but equally there are many fake so-called masters.

[@ExecutionSommaire]

I have some experience in capoeira and it's a similar principle, you get used to a certain flow and when you bump into a beginner who is frantically kicking and coming into contact you're all thrown off. Fortunately nobody in my club pretends to be a real fighter. I would not try to mess with our main teacher though, at high level those guys also practice hand strikes, take downs etc in addition to the devastating kicks and insane fitness level.

[@akotolozano9708]

Taichi is just for exercise you cant use it in real fight and theres no such thing as master coz its just for show lol.

[@theblackswordsman5171]

Take a seat old Taichi SkyWalker. You may be on this council but you are not a master.

[@FightCommentary]

Best comment ;)

[@theblackswordsman5171]

@@FightCommentary Thank you. Have a great kung fu day 😀

[@skipsch]

Tai chi letting me down again. Lie chi.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

There are videos of taiji players beating greco-roman national team athletes in sparring. Here in Thailand, taiji guys have done well in muay thai competition, because of the clinch takedown/dumping aspect. Any traditional art will have its share of fake teachers ,but the art is real. Don't forget that jiu jitsu was once dominated by fake teachers after the samurai period and before the judo period. It is a socio economic phenomena.

[@dxmakina]

links?

[@emilianosintarias7337]

@@dxmakina search tai chi push hand tian long and the channel called shadow xu. you can see national team wrestlers and mma fighters lose greco rules matches(and win a few) to tai ji players

[@taichichuansifurob]

The gentleman who challenged the Tai Chi Master had a strong root and the Master could not find it.

[@Zz7722zZ]

If you are interested in seeing how a tai chi practitioner actually pushes or sends someone flying back in an un-rehearsed or non-compliant setting -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2PSYpqfmMuZm7s the tai chi guy in black shirt does this a few times within the 1st minute of the video. It's not going to look as clean or as impressive as demos though. Anyway, I think the MMA guy in the video is probably a relatively unskilled beginner so I'm not posting the link as a style vs style thing.

[@elenchus]

it's an interesting twist on judo and wrestling in some of those. A little percussion to get someone over a trip. I'm very interested to see what they come up with over the next 10-20 years as they incorporate more and more judo and wrestling into the syllabus.

[@Zz7722zZ]

@@elenchus The 'techniques' used by the tai chi guy are quite typical and historical (anecdotally traced from early 1900's at the least) ones for this style and not incorporated from judo or wrestling although there are definitely similarities. You would probably find that the tai chi 'techniques' look crude and less technical compared to those in judo or wrestling.

[@Zz7722zZ]

@Gabrielle Christian - be more aggressive - you’re falling at a touch, it’s not like this even against kids. - be more aggressive, kill him! Note: ‘kill him’ is just an expression, it’s not as extreme as it sounds. Towards the middle and end of the video: - 10 seconds. - loosen/open up and throw, loosen/open up and strike. - 10 seconds.

[@berkstaichi]

I don't know who this Master or this is or if the challenger is actually "random", but he probably is an experienced martial artist. Please pause/freeze at 1:53 and notice that as the narrator gets excited about the push, the Taiji guy has regained a solid stance while the challenger is flying backwards. Just sayin'.

[@ConsiderIslamLIVEKennyBomer]

This narrator of this video is ridiculous.

[@richarddeerflame]

Yes he is experienced martial artist..... you are 100% right.. the narator ius wrong in this video. I still finnd it a little lame the student help the master a bit more than they should... But yes... Its not a true example here... Silly video.

[@nizz0matic307]

bro he's claiming to use chi to have super pushing power, if he can't do it do a random chubby middle aged person and only his own student, it's not real, grow up

[@tofumonster8913]

Master Chen zhonghua is good at push hands and likes to demystify Taichi by explaining using physics.

[@Zz7722zZ]

Yep, after years of following him on KZbin I have decided to switch to his school. I like his practical approach.

[@michaelcook2290]

You've tightened your braces? Loosen them Jerry, they're interfering with the Tai Chi master's chi. Only explanation for what I just saw.

[@FightCommentary]

The bottom teeth hurt so much right now. I think even the Tai Chi master feels that pain that I'm feeling and it's affecting his ability!

[@elenchus]

@@FightCommentary legendary debunker James Randi used to keep the time and place of some tests within his organization (the JREF) secret even from him, because people started to claim that he was secretly a wizard and was using his own mind powers to interfere with their own psychic abilities, making them fail the test.

[@robertvong]

This is not hilarious at all because the master did ok. The challenger clearly flew back when he finally committed to a move at 1:53

[@francoiswilliams]

Taichi is a great art...when you get it right

[@spaideman7850]

unfortunately all these master skewed it towards 'arrogant and stupid chi'

[@mannybrucesalvador]

Yeah figured him out & made him sit down 😳. How embarrassing for this Master. I wonder what his explanation and excuse was 🤔.

[@5elementsfit]

He wouldn't stand a chance... Challenge me 🤗🤗🤗

[@FightCommentary]

Sifu Nico!!! Pinning you!

[@kevinlobos5519]

Hi Sifu Nico, you rock man! You have developed a beautiful skill. Or a great kung fu, in other words.

[@richarddeerflame]

haha not very Humble here lol. We need to be humble and proove our art before speaking . Thats the first lesson in Martial arts... there is always always someone better than me... I remain silent and train and never engage.. only if someonen engages me.. then i have no .... oooops i failed now i must take back what i said. Wisdom is to refrain from contnest... however if challenged be original and real... Then no regrets

[@nikopapadakis7129]

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[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Man the NFL needs to sign up this master he knock offensive linemen on their butts!

[@bestcarschannel6898]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@urbanarmory]

I mean it's damn sad when you've got a tai chi master who can't even legitimately deal with a push hands challenge... Take it easy Jerry, enjoy the smoothie time while you're waiting for your face to feel better

[@Fritz999]

Actually, that was a really easy problem to solve. But then I never did either Tai chi or Karate.

[@tttITA10]

Fun fact: according to a doctoral dissertation presented at the Lougborough University by this gentleman called "Gehao Zhang" (pages 63 and 64, but the whole thing is really interesting), it was this Wu family who supposedly found the first main text that reffers to this Martial Art as "Taijiquan", a probably partially faked manuscript now known as "The Salt Shop Manuscript". So, yeah, the lineage from which this guy comes basically came up with the name of the Martial Art: this man is genealogically almost as legit as it comes, but he still has no clue about fighting.

[@FightCommentary]

Wow! that is so fascinating! What's the Chinese name of the "Salt Shop Manuscript?"

[@Zz7722zZ]

@@FightCommentary 鹽店譜, which contains the Taijiquan Treatise 太极拳论. Supposedly found in a salt shop owned by the founder of wu 武 style, Wu Yuxiang’s brother. A bit sus if you ask me.

[@tttITA10]

@@FightCommentary Both the dissertation and a random citation I found on google by Wu Chengqin (the guy who suposedly found this text) say the original title of the text is simply "taijiquanpu"/"tai chi chuan manual" (I imagine 太極拳譜 would be the hanzi writing? I don't really speak chinese). According to Wu Chengqin, this was a text on/by the yang family martial arts, but, so the dissertation goes, the name was not popular at all (apparently, not even in the yang family circles), until this guy found the text and made the name famous. Edit: aaay, someone found the proper name/writing. Cool B)

[@Velasca]

I never trusted the salt shop story and suspected it was made up. Apparently Wu Yuxiang also spat his dummy out with Yang Luchan because he suspected he wasn't being taught the full thing. Of course maybe they were also not as good as the stories make out but I wonder how much Yang Luchan or Yang Banhou worried about the classics

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

Many great masters have had terrible students lol.

[@JansTaiChi]

One thing that's missing with many Tai Chi practitioners is MARTIAL LOGIC. When people start understanding the value of thinking and strategy in their Tai Chi, these stylists will have to evolve or be called frauds. Great video. Sending love.

[@sweeper_of_streets3849]

It must have been the air in the room that threw him off. He wasn't in his natural habitat.

[@12feettall6]

"Plus"

[@seeagain2]

Some brands of airconditioners also disturb the air charge. Also, the guy should have stayed natural and kept his glasses on. No costume changes to trick the teacher!

[@user-mn8tz4nf2s]

Or the guy with glasses had his big toe crossed over his ring toe and it nullified the effects

[@seeagain2]

@@user-mn8tz4nf2s Hmm... true, but I'm concerned about all the tricks getting out there if we give these comments. We could upset the self-defense market...

[@WarriorBoy]

And let's not forget that he probably rushed to the seminar that day and didn't eat lunch!

[@Heping1]

Actually, we see two guys crossing hands. From one we know the name, from the other one not. Maybe the other one is also a master? Actually, the video says nothing, as long as we don't have a background about the other guy. And it has actually nothing to do with Xu Xiaodong.

[@MaxLohMusic]

Science and actual data over what happened in real life, over faith/theories of what's supposed to happen. You're doing the good work man.

[@Sebastianx007]

The tai chi master didn't necessarily get dragged he lost yes but judging from that first try there was a little Power behind that first Push! Even watching a Second time when dude pushed the tai chi master he barely budged!

[@lhh627]

From a 72 year old practitioner (since 1964) of Tai Chi Praying Mantis : what a fake master who doesn't even understand the purpose of Push Hands technique. So many impostors and impersonators nowadays !

[@slawomirostrowski7213]

After all, the demostration consisted in showing individual, agreed techniques. So, for example, if you push me, I will answer in this way. And then a person from the audience comes out who wants to try the same thing, but does not do it, but introduces an element of free sparring. This is my understanding of what happened. If a man in the audience wants to make unassumed techniques then he should say "hey let's do push hands" and then we would have a completely different picture, I presume.

[@ominae1]

Push Hands is just an exercise. If you break the rules of the exercise (like grab the clothes) is become something else.

[@TheOnlyGHOST1015]

If we didn't have video these Days these Fake Masters would be Legends in your neighborhood lol

[@shadowfighter6445]

Gee I wonder what's going to happen to the tai chi master 🤔😄? Thank you for sharing ☺️.

[@elenchus]

people will make excuses for him on the internet

[@Nunyabizn3ss]

@@elenchus ^this. "The challenger lifted a toe up, messing with the master’s chi", "the master was poisoned prior", "the stage was uneven". There is no end the the BS, that BS’ers will try to BS you with.

[@torstenbeck640]

The problem the taichi master have to face is, that this guy honestly speaking, got knowledge from chi sao from wt( or other arts that teach to relax). Everytime the tc master want to apply the force to the body of the guy from the audience, he took his arms back or he pulled instead of pushing. Guys, If the bridge is not installed you cant drive your car over the river ! 24 years WT teached me that ! The tai chi master is not that bad as you think, he's just young and need to stack experience !

[@Quantum3691]

That non-complying guy was sent by Xu Xiaodong.. He's a graduate of The Fraudulent Masters Exposure Academy. 😆

[@FightCommentary]

HAHAHA :)

[@DavidLeeKim]

Yes it's true. A person that gets thrown back by the push hands techniques relies on the volunteer cooperating and allowing himself to get pushed back. If the person resists and gets out of the line of pushing force, it's not going to work.

[@taichipandabat6153]

easier said than done, Tai Chi is a funny art because what goes on is invisible you have to feel it......this is why it's hard to convince people it actually works

[@mtower235]

I missed my calling. I shoulda been a weatherman and a TMA “master”. Where were these tables at on high school career day?

[@NinjaRabbott]

That one was strong in the force.

[@Fritz999]

Yeah, long live the force.

[@dorkvader2673]

Push hands and sticky hands are some of my favorite 2 man excersises but it can also be lethal.

[@helgar791]

Seems like there was a little sugar in the Chai Tea.

[@dingosmith9932]

It's the old story, the more these "master's" play with their compliant students, the more their real combat skills are blunted ...

[@LRkun]

I like tai chi for health reasons and breathing. If you're calm and fight, it's an edge. Take the being calm and then learn boxing, grappling, and weapons.

[@fallingleaveskungfu]

Unpopular opinion: for an uncooperative demonstration, it's a fair representation. Obviously you're not going to bounce your opponent out the same way you would somebody offering you their structure. How well he would have done against strikes is another thing, but the basic point is it's tough to fight me when you're already fighting for your balance. I think what this guy showed was a reasonable display of manipulating the balance of an uncooperative opponent.

[@Stoigniew666]

Western scientific approach (MMA) vs. Eastern obscure mysticism --> Xu Xiadong vs. Legendary Tai Chi Masters ;)

[@combatsportsarchive7632]

Dude, the westerners weren't the only ones who pioneered MMA. There are similar groups outside the western world like Shooto, Vale Tudo and Daido Juku Kudo since the 20th century. Check out a video titled "MMA in 1990 July 9, 3 years before UFC 1 [Shooto Japan]" for example.

[@Stoigniew666]

@@combatsportsarchive7632 OK, touche. But I wasn't saying about Western NATIONS, but the perspective, the attitude towards Martial Arts. I meant the (typical for the West) scientific approach vs. a more obscure mysticism which is more linked to the East.

[@ShadowParalyzer]

Do you actually believe those people who "masters"?

[@lazyguy3555]

It's quite obvious that the "random stranger" has good taiji skills, which Sun Jian Guo respectfully recognized.

[@drpavlovic1411]

I don't know what did you see. I see a man who grabs master hands every time when he should be pushed. This way, nobody can't be pushed.

[@Dr_MF]

I love martial arts .. never had the chance to practice honestly.. I also love how you always expose the bulshido .. i mean those so called masters .. watching them is worse than watching a bad movie

[@ConsiderIslamLIVEKennyBomer]

This video is ridiculous. The video footage didn't prove anything against the Tai Chi Master.

[@richarddeerflame]

Slightly misleading video.. im sorry to say. The gentle man who stood up has martial arts experience... So not true. The only thing i can say is that its a piuty the students help the teacher so much... It must be more real... But so be it .. thats his story. This makes no proof on Taichi working or not working... Dont be fooled.

[@queunlimited4779]

Ok...anyone can find things to discredit so, show us the other side....guys who can and then there's, are YOU a martial artist🥊? Can you fight🥊? If not, don't you think you should actually be SOMEONE 👑or do SOMETHING with yourself to get SOME KIND OF CREDIBILITY 🥇🥉 rather than spending your time dragging people down? At least they're investing their time PRODUCTIVELY, even if they're unsuccessful. HONESTLY, seems pretty negative petty and Aweful small. It's not like YOU'RE stepping up and challenging these guys, YOURSELF. 😱 THAT, AT LEAST, would be SOMETHING rather than this armchair warrior thing you're doing. What a sad little world and existence some "live in" to actually support, listen or watch this channel...juuuusssst saying, bro. 🙇

[@centurione6489]

Aikido (marginally useful MA) sandan here. I decided to implement my "internal power" with Tai Chi. While pushing hands, the deputy instructor pissed me off and I kicked his butt real hard. So he went crying to the chief instructor who challenged me. As the top dog had biceps the size of my thighs ... I decided to bow out. 🤣🤯

[@SachaGreif]

The reason students always go flying in these kind of demonstrations is that they’re cooperating with the teacher by not adjusting their stance to regain their balance like a normal person would if they felt off-balance. Which means once they do lose their footing they have to make these big backward leaps to regain their balance. If you leaned back further and further and waited for the last possible moment to correct your posture to avoid falling the same thing would happen to you.

[@Spikebert]

That "really big Tai Chi master" in the momentary part of the clip, is Lee Scheele, a two time heavyweight push hands champion. I've touched hands with him at his Meetup practice. He's 75 now, and still very good at what he does. But no, push hands is not fighting, but I believe it can be a good skill to add into other training. I hope I can find the full clip of Lee vs the wrestler.

[@moycious]

At 1:54 he actually gets him. If you are expecting tai ji magic, it is pretty easy to nullify - like this man and others have proven. If you had some tai ji techniques mixed with some direct strikes - it can catch you off guard and be quite useful. But the internal aspect of martial arts takes a long time to develop and today’s masters might not even have them at combat level proficiency. The internal kung fu does lend itself to health, especially for those that have lost some of their vigor.

[@richarddeerflame]

Seems like the random guy from the audience actually has got combat history and has studdied an art. So not entirely a true example against a person who hasnt studdied a martial art... the guy with glasses has you can just see it. But yes sadly, the students should not be helping the teacher as much as they have clearly. But for sure the guy who came up has got skills already in a art.

[@HUEnshiro_do_Norte]

You saying "Wu" is so weird. 😆😆😆😆 And "Pushing Hands" is nothing more than child stuff. Pure waste of time. Well deserved the exposed that this "master" suffered.

[@Domzdream]

Now I wish these people applied that same kind of ‘realisation’ to religions. There’s be more love than war, I know it !

[@JaybayJay]

I'm not saying this guy's techniques are real, I don't know, but it is similar to something I've done in the past. But I'm also a big guy, 6'4' 200 pounds plus when I did it and this thing I use to do would be to tap an opponent quickly with my palms under your clavicles to offset an opponent's balance then I would plant myself and lift them as I pushed them as hard as I could, throwing them backwards. I've thrown a buddy of mine pretty far back like that when he was training with me but I was putting a lot more into it. This guy's technique requires a willing opponent to show it, mine you don't.

[@budisutanto5987]

1.53 When his opponent push back, a . . . (what's the word?) Tai Chi master, would move & let him pass . . even pull opponent to the ground. Tai Chi is . . soft art, it didn't . . force thing to happen. He might be a genuine Tai Chi teacher, but here, he force thing instead of using the art. It's like he forgot to applied the principal. He need refreshment on sparring train. Badminton or tennis, you watch and strike when it's the right moment, not before, not after. That moment only as long as a blink of eyes.

[@RocknRollkat]

This is not fake. It is called "Elastic Force Chi Kung" and it works quite well if you're not expecting it. Like anything else, if you're expecting it, it can be defeated.

[@Fritz999]

I like to see situations of that kind. In practically all martial arts exhibitions it is a given that the "lesser" partner is a willing and compliant partner. Usually there is no quick fix for non compliance or active resistance. To be clear about this, for a clean and clear exhibition, some compliance is helpful. But a master ought to be able to overcome none compliance or resistance. If not capable of overcoming, do not ever do exhibitions of techniques. It makes the so-called Master look supremely silly.

[@mickywes3733]

Hi Jerry, what part of the world are you in? I’d like to put you together with one of my taichi buddies, if possible. To see how you would do pushing with one of them. All safe and fun, but you could be surprised. Let me know.