Tai Chi Master Wang Zhanhai vs Judo

[@bullfrogjay4383]

I remembered getting Uchi Mata'd into another dimension by a Judoka who had only trained one year. I think this Judoka in the video was being very gentle and polite.

[@krommer66]

🤣🤣🤣 My first real judo match I was also sent to another dimension.

[@mickeyk9218]

Yes, uchi mada would have done the trick easily! This clip is bullsheido!

[@joshuam4993]

@@mickeyk9218 Nope. I studied both judo and taiji. Taiji is weird, you can literally ground yourself so deeply and absorb force that even my previous judo friends couldn't uproot me. It's not very practical, as a fighting art. But if you mixed them together it would be very powerful. People don't understand taiji and how subtly powerful the grounding is. Its like trying to up root a bamboo root fully dug 20 feet into the ground. It will bend and redirect force but it won't break.

[@KingoftheJiangl]

​@@joshuam4993yes I also study taichi and judo. This judo guy was not trying.

[@saborescriollos5602]

Ive sparred a judo guy..it didnt go like you said and he wasnt able to throw me

[@That1CommentGuy]

Title should be called, “Judo Black Belt politely build Tai Chi master’s self-esteem”

[@rexguy7823]

If you know what people are trying to do - throw you, and you drop your stance, it's actually quite believable. Oh I forgot, we're not meant to like anything Chinese now..my bad..It's all BS & tai chi is crap

[@christofl6523]

No kidding, that Judo guy would wreck that silly Tai Chi "master."

[@rexguy7823]

@@christofl6523 Welcome to the world of "It's not actually a fighting video where we compare styles"

[@christofl6523]

@@rexguy7823 Welcome to the world of bullshido.

[@rexguy7823]

@angel666 I have nothing against judo, I think it's one of the best MA out there simply because they actually get on the mats & practice. A lot of striking arts end up with people standing in lines punching the air. What I'm disagreeing with is the idea that the judo guys in this video were not actually trying. The way I see it is the Chinese guy had a decent stance, end of story. But some people are saying that it's a Chinese communist plot to entrench kung fu, that they bribed the judo guys to go easy on him..I just think that's a load of horse sh^t

[@jjvanzyl3075]

You can clearly see that this was rehearsed. Why, I do not know. The judo guy did not even try to use any real judo techniques.

[@LibraryAstro]

I always wonder if China expects people to believe these elementary lies. It's pure mockery of our intelligence.

[@SI00000]

@@LibraryAstro Its clearly fake because of the slow pace and the fact that the Judo guy doesn't put any power behind anything he pretends to do, nor does he position himself for any real throw or takedown.

[@chrisulmer694]

Sayyidilyas You’re right, that Tai Chi stuff is truly bad ass.Because Tai Chi masters can use the force of chi to their advantage, they are always having to pull back from hurting their opponent at all of these filmed events. Tai Chi = truly deadly.

[@CorporaMedicina]

@@chrisulmer694 "...can use the force of chi to their advantage," there is no such thing as chi...

[@chrisulmer694]

savcob I know what you’re saying and I totally agree and that’s why you put that in quotation marks. These other martial arts guys who go up against a Tai Chi master don’t believe there is anything such as chi until it’s too late and then SMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Darksido]

What Judo? This so called "judoka" did a little dance around the Tatame with that other guy. No kumi-kata, no stance, no kuzushi, no projection. He could have done Hiza-guruma or Uchi-mata 20 times. Don't volunteer for this sort of chicanery. You are dishonoring Judo, the memory of Sensei Kano, your Belt, your Sensei, and yourself. You don't set foot inside a Tatame wearing shoes.

[@Darksido]

heeheemanofHK You are terrible at trolling.

[@Sanmayce]

"... dishonoring Judo ..." - Are you insane or a fool? Either your senses are hacked or you are a fool, the two guys are all-right, where is your psychological expertise, they are really polite and genuine in expressing their greetings, skills and appreciation, don't you see that?! Face a man skilled in TaiChi first and then share with us how your attempts to apply ATTEMPTS-FOR-THROWING went. To me, you have no basic understanding in stances, let alone techniques, nothing wrong in that, but to criticize as if you are some learned judoka, nah, humble yourself! I said this even to the cocky judoka Ronda far before she got humiliated, however she was blinded by her ... EGO.

[@samsun01]

+Darksido son, be more original. haters gonna hate too? any other gimmick you wanna use? your 'verbal judo' is pitiful.

[@Darksido]

+Georgi “Kaze” Marinov Did you read the dialog? As in 1:06 : "Today I come to consult and see which one is stronger. Tai Chi or Judo?". That calls for a real randori, not a parody. I practiced Judo since I was 14. Under two strict Senseis (Sensei Rodríguez and Sensei Feliciano) and later on under Sensei Hiromi Tomita (hellish in a good way) and learned quite a bit about Judo's philosophy and discipline, besides technique. In my book you don't make a parody of the discipline in order to make it look this or that way, you do Judo. Period. He had the chance to throw the Tai Chi practitioner in multiple occasions and he didn't (because he wasn't even trying to take a proper stance, unbalance, or make a proper grip). You can't practice Judo unless both parties are willing to eat the Tatame. Concerning the rest, you are just talking gibberish or you would know why I mentioned there was no good kumi-kata, or stance; ergo, no possibility of projection. It's quite evident you are not a Judo practitioner. Much less a Dan. 2:28-2:50 for example it's an embarrassing mockery of Harai-goshi (no kuzushi) to portrait he "tried something". You practice Tai Chi, fantastic, you can talk about it all you want. Just don't try to teach me about something I practiced for 22 years. You can't have a true perspective about a martial art unless you practice it. That's why I can offer a judoka's perspective, and that's why I don't speak about Tai Chi. Telling the truth has nothing to do with humility or the lack of it. That's that. P.S. I dislike Ronda Rousey's personality quite a lot by the way.

[@Darksido]

+heeheemanofHK Sorry you are hurting that much kid.

[@anarchic_ramblings]

Why isn't Master Wang on the Chinese national judo team? He would surely win a gold medal and be forever remembered as the greatest judoka of all time! Why doesn't he do challenge fights? He could make millions of dollars, which he could use for important socially valuable ends. No doubt Master Wang could end child poverty with his Tai Chi!

[@muthafuckawhatchusay]

There's no money in it. That's why you see so many tai chi masters in MMA

[@juniorhighflyslikeeagle7803]

He won't challenge because the other Tai chi master got his ass handed to him by mma fighter.

[@rexguy7823]

Um..the Chinese guy was in a video where the judo guy couldn't throw him because he had a wide stance...that's it. And it was actually believable. He knew what they were trying to do. I understand that everyone hates the Chinese now but seriously..get over your corona virus BS

[@rafaelprados6509]

@@rexguy7823 Exactly this! So glad to see that there are still people with common sense and not everyone here is a keyboard warrior lol

[@kennedy072]

@@rafaelprados6509 WUmao Spotted.

[@wgjung1]

It's not fake, it's called acting.

[@jimjiang4547]

putting an act on tv makes it fake

[@wgjung1]

Jiang Jim It's called a 'fiction' in tv.

[@1swt]

Best response yet!

[@84cwl]

I agree is acting... like wwe...is for entertainment purposes

[@dwddindin]

It's not acting

[@wardragonprime]

I studied judo for two years and there's no way you're going to tell me this video is for real.

[@mikesmith-ie6st]

Ahahahaah yeah don t cry a lot😏 😏 😏

[@wardragonprime]

Judo is an EXCELLENT style to learn about stability, connection, and leverage. It is also good for realizing the only way you learn self defense is by working up a sweat, NOT by waving your hands around and taking part in bogus demonstrations. Just for the record, I have studied both Kokokan Judo and Yang-Style Tai Chi Chuan.

[@johndough8115]

@@wardragonprime If you only learned the form, (and likely did them incorrectly on top of that) then you do not know squat about Tai Chi.

[@nicholasclarence]

This guy doesn't know fucking judo lol

[@gersonpaz683]

@@wardragonprime If practice wrestling and judo for years this vedio is real trust me his balance was alot better his breathing was better he was able to control his energy and use the other guys energy against him he got the judo guy tired and was able to get him to make a mistake and get him off balance that what tai chi tai teaches you is the art of energy it teaches you how to not wear your self out and how to wear someone else out instead and teaches you how to use some ones energy movement against them and teach you to balance your self very great I'll tell you simply like this if it combined with something else it most definitely works I just started practicing it it definitely works on a good wrestler I'm not joking tai chi is a mysterious martial arts from China that why is not that known I believe that not everything works for everyone but something that dosent work for somebody can work.for someone else tai chi may not work for everyone just like other martial arts dosent work everyone one until.they fund something that does work for them and that the case tai chi maybe not be for everybody but it's definitely is for some people tai chi definitely works for me it even help me balance my self alot better helps me sleep alot better too coming from a good wrestler tai chi is great!

[@poolboyinla]

They couldn't even make a good fake video.

[@pocketsandpunk]

hahaha true, dang small world. i just seen this cause it was recommended.

[@samsun01]

travis kraft? still 'roiding up or injecting those testosterone gel? can't beat those 20 year olds when you're past 40? fucking garbage is MMA, that's why.

[@Zack1440]

Travis I'm waiting for you to make a video for us you scrub loser. You are the only fake one in this thread.

[@gytismartinas7203]

true...

[@ausgepicht]

There are so many fakes that I think some practitioners have lost the ability to understand the real thing when they see it, especially those who have never actually sparred against a resisting opponent. After 30 years in martial arts and 15 years coaching - likely more than the supposed master in this video, I will say that I have seen more believable, realistic footage in WWE fake wrestling. If people think this was real then they believe The Onion and a Batboy story on the weekly world news to be real. If that stings, it's because you have never sparred in your life or because you have never actually trained against a resisting opponent. If this was real, the Tai Chi guy would enter a Judo competition, make a ton of money or show the world how effective Tai Chi is and his school. He can't and won't because he's a fraud. Sorry about the boo-boo on your feelings, but hopefully you'll open your eyes before something in the real world happens like you are attacked, try the bogus martial art you train in and beat up badly.

[@GuroJeromeTeague]

This was the Corona Virus of martial arts videos.

[@turtle1211]

Another “Propaganda” video. I grew up on similar bullsh$t in USSR..

[@rexguy7823]

To me it was just a video about a Japanese judo guy trying to throw a Chinese guy but couldn't. Am I missing something here?

[@turtle1211]

rex guy , both dudes are Chinese. if judo guy used just 10% of his effort, he would have still wrecked the tai chi guy.

[@rexguy7823]

@@turtle1211 What's the point of the video then? Judo guy just faking? He couldn't throw the Chinese guy because he has a solid stance. If anyone actually knows how to fight they take what they can and don't rubbish other styles.

[@turtle1211]

rex guy , he didn’t try. I’ve been doing judo and wrestling for 20 years. It’s beyond obvious. Anyone with judo or grappling background concluding the same. All other comments speak for themselves

[@rexguy7823]

@@turtle1211 What is the point of the video? It's that a good stance is important. It's not a Judo vs Taiji fight. I did Judo as a kid & it's a great style. Try to see it for what it is. It's not a stain on Judo's reputation

[@banpreso]

To declare the taichi guy "won" in this case is absurd. from the speed of movement of the judo guy you can see he's not serious about attacking. he did not try to fake and off balance. for most of the contest he did not try to get a good grip (under hook or head control). his foot sweeps were just for show as he attacked when the taichi guy had perfect balance and was not vulnerable. as a judo practitioner who trains week in week out and have thrown so many opponents over the years, he clearly knows how to throw but isn't using what he knows

[@TTyger]

I’ve never even trained Judo, and I can see that this is some BS. Judo players I’ve seen are well trained, strong, and would throw that pyjama wearing freak in seconds.

[@aljoschalong625]

This is nonsense. Yes, I also had the impression the Judo guy was not trying his hardest. But it IS not that easy to throw a Taiji master so easily as it might look. My theory is that the Judo guy was overly respectful.

[@TTyger]

I don’t think it’s just that, man. I think it’s Chinese state propaganda. Judo has proper pressure testing in practice. Taiji (as far as I know) practices mostly just forms. A halfway decent Judoka can rag doll an average citizen. A halfway decent Taiji practicioner... well... who knows what that even means, because they don’t really test their skills against one another, afaik. Judo, wrestling, sambo, bjj etc. > Taiji, kungfu, aikido, wing chun etc.

[@aljoschalong625]

@@TTyger No, that's wrong. If someone practices Taiji only forms, without sparring (tui shou), he could not stand a second; even if the Judoka, as in this case is not really trying. This Taiji guy did have a good balance; the judo guy didn't try hard. Maybe too respectful.

[@TTyger]

Aljoscha Long by Tui Shou, do you mean pushing hands?

[@aljoschalong625]

@@TTyger Yes. And this is not playing; at least people who do it seriously have real skills. I was quite surprised the first time I tried a real master. It feels really weird. Actually a bit like with a real good judoka. But although I don't judge the video as harsh as most here, I also have the impression that the judo guy didn't try his best.

[@matejfele9971]

That's a judo BB? Must be some kind of joke.

[@samsun01]

where's your video son? video or bullshit.

[@matejfele9971]

If you can't tell it by looking at it, you're clueless.

[@samsun01]

you need to prove yourself first. still talking? still no video son?

[@matejfele9971]

heeheemanofHK Where's yours?

[@samsun01]

+Matej Fele, still talking... the verdict's out. you nobody.

[@AnGhaeilge]

I've seen people with 3 months of judo with better technique than that. The first half of the video, he isn't even using judo. It looks like shitty wrestling. And those throw attempts at the end, he didn't even try to setup. You have to control grips, and take out their centre of balance.

[@喵五先生]

Sean Ó Briain 那是你不懂太極，柔道根本找不到太極的著力點，所以技法無法施展。

[@wittyjoker4631]

Indeed. Its obviously a fluff peace

[@bryantay2184]

+Sean Ó Briain Its mainly because, the tai chi master positioned himself in a low stance to gain the upper hand. Basically the results here, are rather one sided as these videos are mainly to raise awareness of tai chi kungfu and not about judo. I feel that if they really wanted to test the effectiveness of taichi in judo they should have let the master put on a gi and see if he can really last that long.......

[@AnGhaeilge]

+Bryan Tay No, it's due to the fact that these aren't judokas.

[@BloodofPatriots]

+Sean Ó Briain Also, notice no high grip? Anytime an opponent leans into you like that, a trained Judoka knows to reach over and grab a high grip. A three-finger grip inside the Kung Fu guy's color and he's going flying. This was total bullshit.

[@viobull5548]

I studied both Judo and Tai Chi. It’s very hard to throw someone who is only focused on not getting thrown. In Judo matches it’s discouraged to do what the Tai Chi master did, you would be penalized for only defending and not attempting to throw.

[@contaparajogar1666]

well i studied tai chi chuan yang chen and a little bit of the others i did both i'm a practitioner of both styles that i mentioned and in tai chi it's worth doing nothing or doing nothing to redirect blows and take down but it's not such a good strategy why if you don't do anything taijiquan explosive techniques that would be those shoulder strikes with pushes are effective so it's not really recommended not to do nothing and that doesn't have in judo then right and it's also a martial art against the other in taijquan it's not worth touching the hand on the ground it's not worth touching the knee the only thing you can touch is the sole of the feet already in judo it's different so they are different martial arts with different rules so you can't expect a rule to apply to another martial art why then you are leaving your opponent's martial art weakened to such rules usually with the rules of the opponents more than yours

[@contaparajogar1666]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4rSqYF4Zr2Gd6csi=uLfjVcR9ts0TL077here is a video of a chen style taijiquan training you can see that those who don't attack normally or recent heavy takedowns with explosions like I mentioned or they use counter fast attacks

[@viobull5548]

@@contaparajogar1666 Judo is a sport, Jiujitsu is more comparable to Tai Chi. What the Tai Chi master does would not work against someone who will grab his legs and uproot him. Against a Judo player who will only throw according to Judo rules, Tai Chi will work since Judo is a sport mainly focused on Judo matches and to be used against other Judokas who are also trying to throw.

[@contaparajogar1666]

@@viobull5548 yes you are correct the focus of judo is to be a sport to fight against other sportsmen of the same rules but taijiquan can be classified in that because there are unique rules in taijiquan and yes jiujiteiros say that judokas like to do beautiful takedowns and you can see that it's a reality where they want to take their opponent to the ground in the most beautiful and refined way possible, you can see it in olympic championships where judokas wait, attack, throw themselves and then roll to go up, they tend to make beautiful takedowns and that's a reality already tai chi chuan or taijiquan focuses on taking down in as many ways as possible and just explaining yes in taijiquan you can grab the legs normally both both legs as well as one this is not something unique that applies in the rules of jiu jitsu or similar and taijiquan has submissions not so much common in taijiquan challenges since the focus is on taking down more fights in chenjiagou the village of the chen family in taijiquan to a recording where they practice submissions later a protection or grab it I'll see if I can find the video and I'll send it to you

[@Juiceboxdan72]

Pretty sure this is a Chinese show, that explains a lot about this "match" lol

[@Juiceboxdan72]

@@pengjin9806 Haha brilliant

[@pengjin9806]

angel666 Hahahah ，you make me laugh bro! 太极 少林 咏春 醉拳 等等。都可以称为功夫，中国功夫，我也没说太极拳是假的 我是说这个人是个骗子，多了解了解中国文化 在和我抬杠吧！😂 Eng: Taichi ,shaolin,winching,tiger style, we both called “ kung-fu or Wushu” I didn’t say Kung-fu not good , I just say this guy is a fake taichi master or Kung-fu master . If you want say more your better know more Chinese culture you can google it , bad world isn’t helpful😂

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Just hold the L

[@pengjin9806]

AS J 🤣🤣

[@HundredWingZ]

More Chinese propaganda

[@jeielgilbertmanantan7391]

i practice judo and i gotta say there were so may opportunity to throw this "master wang" i can really say this is fake.

[@davidmartinez9804]

never heard of shaolin style taiji?

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

This is definitely not fake as anyone not in denial would admit. The judoka attempted many techniques all of which were rendered ineffective. You simply do not want to believe this and so you try to discredit the reality of this video.

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

People saying the judoka wasn't trying hard enough aren't watching the same video. Clearly you can see the judoka attempting to use all his force and maximum leverage as well as relaxing and changing but quite obviously the tai chi system has a much more effective and subtle way of exerting and resisting force.

[@HECTORARTUROA]

O D do you practice judo?

[@andrewhageman1817]

Advanced Judo is more subtle than what we see in competition. I believe this is real. The Judoka is at a disadvantage because he must attack. If the Tai Chi man was required to attack, the video would be more dynamic. This video only answers one question. Can Judo uproot a defending Tai Chi Master? Probably not. If roles were reversed, would the result be the same?

[@CecilRyuTaekwondo]

Why was there no O Uchi Gari to Ko Uchi Gari combo?

[@yokoschroder314]

I started Judo age 9, haven’t practised for a long time until recent. Here I saw many opportunities for a throw not being executed. Either the Judoka was a yellow belt and just for TV had to wear a black belt, or out of respect and for the sake of his peace ( in China) went along and played the game-who knows. The concept of a strong rooting by the TaiChi master was demonstrated. Yet, the TaiChi master should feel a bit ashamed of his ‘victory’.

[@Supermomo2007]

we dont know, it looks fake but i think the tai chi master played fair, i did study both, judo and chen style tai chi

[@marektruper4242]

I sparred with an aikido master master who claimed he is so rooted nobody would take him down. 30 seconds later he lost a match. I lost a friend.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@marektruper4242 yeah, this judoka is totally going easy

[@stevetakkinkwan8910]

Even among judo practitioners, bigger size and weight always have advantages. That meant that it is difficult for smaller size and body weight people to throw bigger and heavier people, especially when both sides are prepared and aware for a fight. It is easier to throw or jam a person off balance when done in quick and unaware situation.

[@JujutsuHeiho]

Whaddya' know... Chinese show trying to make Chinese martial arts look good by having judo guy not toss him around. The black belt wasn't even committing to his throws. Nor was he trying to get the guy off balance.

[@Lottoaire]

your just ............

[@JujutsuHeiho]

If by biased you mean honest, then yes :-)

[@Lottoaire]

Jujutsuheiho edited

[@JujutsuHeiho]

lotto, I think you would be very surprised to know that this Judoka was not trying. I've been training long enough to notice things like that. And he was not following through with techniques of Judo nor was he really using any actual "Kuzushi waza"

[@Lottoaire]

Jujutsuheiho edited

[@MegaKlausbaerbel]

1:45 O-Uchi-Gari Master Wang is down 1:50 Tai-otoshi Master Wang is down 1:53 Master Wang would trop to the ground if he wasn´t held by the Judoka 1:55 That is no attack, that is practice without intent to throw 1:59 Tomoe-nage, Master Wang hurts bad 2:11 Judoka has the foot in for an O-Uchi-Gari but turns the wrong direction… 2:16 Harai-goshi Master Wang is down 2:20 Ko-uchi-gari, Master Wang is literally asking for it.... aaaaand down … What a joke!

[@Supermomo2007]

so you can challenge him now, troll

[@KingoftheJiangl]

​@@Supermomo2007he isn't a troll, he just gave a play by play of why the judo guy was not trying. With kimono, it's a totally different game for taichi guy

[@Supermomo2007]

@@KingoftheJiangl a real fighter should adapt no-gi

[@cfG21]

​@@KingoftheJiangl then let me give you a small play by play of taiji (whose bread and butter is stability) Ouchi gari cannot work because the judo guy is bent forward (big no no in taiji, except wu style where the founder is a wrestler) and the taiji guy has all his 3 dantien lined up with his back straight creating a good root. The judo guy has no leverage because the taiji guy away from his shoulder and hip plus the judokas own center line is off. Ouchi gari here needs someone to be off balance and with a bad stance. The taiji guy concentrates his dantien and is using beng (circle method) but from the inside, with his center taking the judokas .

[@cfG21]

Ouchi gari cannot work because the judo guy is bent forward (big no no in taiji, except wu style where the founder is a wrestler) and the taiji guy has all his 3 dantien lined up with his back straight creating a good root. The judo guy has no leverage because the taiji guy away from his shoulder and hip plus the judokas own center line is off. Ouchi gari here needs someone to be off balance and with a bad stance. The taiji guy concentrates his dantien and is using beng (circle method) but from the inside, with his center taking the judokas .

[@rickjulius3742]

I am a past judo instructor whereby I spent 26 years in this wonderful Olympic Sport Art, and also have spent about 30 years in Taijiquan Yang long-form. I have always noticed the similarities of both arts; its probably why I stayed in Martial Arts for so long. If the Taiji Master was trying to demonstrate his rooting capabilities then this was a very good example and demonstration. However, I know the black belt instructor was most diffidently showing respect and not using any of the throws or take downs that are natural for this type of stance that the Master was holding. He could have easily did uchimata (inner leg reap) or kouchimata (inner heal sweep) one after the other would have put our Tai Chi Master on his back. But like I said, it was a demonstration of actual respect and showed favoritism to the Taiji form.

[@Supermomo2007]

but why the tai chi master doesnt want start throws? tai chi has more throws than judo.

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

Inner leg reap and inner heal sweep can be counterd by tai chi leg trapping techniques quite easily. It sounds like you haven't really studied Tai chi rick. Sorry buddy but im sensing confirmation bias again, nice details though.

[@HECTORARTUROA]

O D do you have a video about those techniques?

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

No I do not have a video. If you actually watch this video the judoka attempts several inner and outer tripping techniques but he is unable to root himself solidly to apply these techniques. Its not some magic force preventing him it is simply that he has lost his centre and so has nothing to lever his own techniques against.

[@HECTORARTUROA]

O D If it's simple why there is no tutorial about that?

[@varamaur9567]

Nice friendly bit of randori and I’m glad a few people in these comments understand and appreciate the application of neijin by the taijiquan practitioner. Of course if this was a formal match officiated under judo rules, he would’ve lost due to multiple shido - but that doesn’t negate the value of the demo.

[@Hampieee]

White monkey

[@spladam3845]

Wow, that went better then I thought it would. I think Tai Chi is amazing and all, but I kind of expected the Tai Chi master to go flying around the room.

[@crobrains1610]

Thats the point with Tai chi staying grounded , just like a tree with its root in ground cant take down

[@shihonage]

He would've, if the Judo guy wasn't on the payroll.

[@andrealaplaca247]

Then you don't know tai chi

[@spladam3845]

@@andrealaplaca247 I do actually, I studied under Fran Farrel (RIP). I think you might have some unreasonable expectations vs an art that is focused on taking someone down. In fact this video, as I found out a couple years later, was not all genuine as well. It's culturally and socially negative to put Tai Chi in a bad light in China so it almost always works out this way.

[@andrealaplaca247]

@@spladam3845 Fair enough. I got a little defensive, you know how it goes ☺ Respect 👍

[@jdgw959]

FFS, if you’re going to push a narrative, try to not make it so obvious.

[@TheOneNyc]

IS THIS A COMEDY SKIT? LIKE WHEN MIKE TYSON FAUGHT AN 8 YEAR OLD ITALIAN GIRL AND LOST?

[@celinreyes1983]

Mike Tyson lost for real, he couldn't resist too much cuteness

[@johnarnold908]

big Judo guy's skill went out the window as soon as the competition began...fake.....

[@Antraeus]

chi

[@TheNEOONE1]

Your comments are cringe

[@donovancox2525]

I agree with all the callouts below. However I’m still left with one question. Since when are shoes allowed on the mat?

[@mofoflm]

That was some yellow belt level judo

[@philyip4432]

If even that.

[@TheRaizo101]

I'm a big fan of martial arts, and a huge fan of Jet Li, but I gotta admit, this looks really fake...

[@MM-ij9vg]

I know the father and the brother. It's not something to say, when you don't know the real power of this man! Master Wang are very hard and difficult to beat

[@TheRaizo101]

Michael Moussa I don't doubt that, I question the power of the "Judo masters". One of my best friends is a Judo black belt since a few years ago, and even he says the technique here is rather low.

[@lyndonlee6604]

Agree with you man as much as I am a big fan of tai chi but this match looks staged

[@Ryancontact1]

I dont think it's a question of it being fake. I train in japanese martial arts myself and it's well known if you keep your center of gravity lower than your opponent they wont be able to utilize throws. If you watch the clip carefully the chinese guys hips are much lower than the judokas. Thus the judokas left with no choice but to try to use force, pretty much the opposite of what judo is about.

[@TheRaizo101]

Ryancontact1 Yeah don't get me wrong I do understand that, but I just think any well trained judoka knows about that as well, and would be able to find a way to turn things around. I'm not saying Wang Zanhai doesn't know what he's talking about, but rather that the opponents are either not experienced or being payed. But that's just my opinion.

[@Enforcer2811]

Its all propaganda to paint taichi “masters” as invincible after that mma fighter wiped the floor with Every traditional Kungfu guy he faced 😑

[@adielbarrera9848]

I am a wushu practicioner, including Tai chi, but I can not deny that this is accurate and a reality. MMA is superior for figthing.

[@Blacktwinswords]

This video was released prior to Xu Xiaodong started wiping the floor with these "masters". Although, I wouldn't put it past the fact that this video along with many other propaganda videos were making Xu extremely frustrated with traditional Chinese martial arts.

[@affalee8216]

Nah he didn't on Shaolin or karate

[@rexguy7823]

I thought the video was about a Judo guy being able to throw a tai chi guy..all these words like master & invincible..where did you get them from?

[@affalee8216]

@@rexguy7823 did judo guy manage to throw taichi dude? Didn't watch enough of the vid to see that.

[@michaelpolito3632]

Very humble martial artist. A great friendly exchange. I have seen these two styles before go at it in the past, and very similar results.

[@kyleromus6845]

Cool video. But where was the judo guy he was supposed to fight?

[@sombojoe]

Was the judo practitioner instructed to NOT grip the gi during the I Soto Gari attempt while the opponent held his gi?

[@SkyReach22]

This "Wang" dude was disrespectful as fuck in the beginning. I wouldda kicked his ass out. You don't walk in someone's space of training, basically these judoka's second home and say "lol I think tai chi is better than judo xD". Even if he could back it up, you just don't say shit like that. You can't fairly say that one combat sport is better than the rest. It always depends on the practitioners. I bet somewhere out there, there's a judoka that could dominate Wang. We just haven't seen him yet. And it's the same for Tai Chi. I'm not trying to be biased for judo, I'm just saying there are all kinds of different people out there with varying skill levels of any combat sport.

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

If its an accurate observation then its an honest statement - especially after he proved it to be true. It would be more respectful to be honest rather than cater to insecurity and arrogance by lying and to protect a delusion.

[@funkyboodah]

I love how the commentator is completely biased in favour of Tai Chi winning

[@spladam3845]

This entire video comes of as a propaganda defense of Tai Chi.

[@judoyodan]

The chi guy is fortunate this judoka has a kind heart and believes in the judo principle of "mutual benefit and welfare."

[@alexhess1163]

People are quick to hate. I've done judo for a few years, although I am far from an expert. My 2 cents: Anyone who has done judo for any amount of time knows how easy it is to stuff throws. When you are only being defensive, like the Tai Chi guys is, it is very easy to never ever be thrown. You are actually most fragile when you shift your weight dramatically to attempt a throw. If you never attack, you can never be countered. This strategy is actually banned in most judo tournaments. It is called "anti-judo," and I believe it is a 1-time warning, a 2-time disqualification from the ENTIRE TOURNAMENT. They ban it because they don't want you to get ahead in waza-ari, then play defensive and sit on your ass for the rest of the match; it makes it impossible for you to lose once you get ahead, but it ruins the point of the match. And it is way too easy to do. A good judoka can probably throw an average untrained person even if he is trying to stuff all throws, but this Tai Chi guy clearly has a lot practice manipulating his weight, at least in a defensive way (it's not super hard). That's why I'm not so quick to denounce this as "fake." The judo guy looks like he was going moderately hard, but not all out like he would in a tournament. He was going practice hard. The Tai Chi guy was only demonstrating standing throw defense to emphasize an aspect of Tai Chi. Keep in mind that keeping your weight low and planted to avoid getting thrown will not stop a punch to the face.

[@Legend-wt1ui]

Actually unless you're running away... if someone without much skill tries to defend while staying up close they typically get hit with a makikomi.

[@davidbandini3484]

Does anybody can tell me the name of the black belt judo please?

[@thndrngest]

the tai chi man absorbs/re-direct most of the judo man's attempts, it's not an all-out street fight, it's a contest of their fundamental skills in their arts, not staged.

[@PochocloEn3D]

Mayweather is way better grappler than this guy...

[@hawkie2216]

savage

[@carllubrin8518]

U mean hugger lol

[@Memento778]

+PochocloEn3D u made my day hahahaha

[@eugeniofernandez8101]

true

[@samsun01]

where's your video son? video or bullshit.

[@cortx2lh]

The judoka wasn't using the principle of Kuzushi, trying to get him of balance before throwing, He could have tried kata guruma.

[@DavidPatrick67]

of course he was trying, that was the point of the demo, there are subtleties going on you don't understand

[@cortx2lh]

Well, if he was trying, he was doing it very poorly. I mean, "push when pulled and pull when pushed". But anyway, don't get me wrong. I like Tai Chi and other kinds of Wushu.

[@Elbottoo]

Davi Stanesco Maybe he was doing it poorly, or maybe he gave everything he had and just couldnt do it. Obviously you know jackshit about tai chi so youre already making assumptions as to why tai chi guy should of been destroyed and what not. In reality, tai chi is one of the most powerfull and dangerous art and you are deadwrong if you think you can just overpower some tai chi guy.

[@cortx2lh]

Wow, look. Another wild keyboard warrior.

[@Elbottoo]

Shine my shoes, burger flipper. know your place in this world.

[@boblolo3977]

He made just one last video: Tai Chi Master Wang Zhanhai vs AK47.

[@jimmybutler3728]

how about shoes for grip to the floor and or mats to give more advantage to smaller contestant? that is reason no shoes in dojo......

[@markelliott8183]

Having had exposure to both judo and tai chi, I found this scene to be pretty impressive. That judo guy could have tossed me all over the mat without even breathing hard.

[@PrimeAliProductions]

He wasn't using any judo techniques whatsoever.

[@xieulong]

PrimeAliProductions It's staged bullshit, that's why.

[@PrimeAliProductions]

xieulong Thought so.

[@mightymeatmonsta]

+PrimeAliProductions Yes, sure. Another sore ass because judo lost badly. Booo hooo!

[@mightymeatmonsta]

+PrimeAliProductions No, judo guy just got beat badly by the tai chi master. He couldn't do a damn thing, and the JUDO guy was at least 40 lbs heavier and like a foot taller. So why couldn't he win? Because judo SUCKS!

[@PrimeAliProductions]

***** you alright there? Tai chi is horseshit. Judo is an Olympic sport, Haha

[@MrNapalm138]

Studied Judo for a long time them my instructor and I met some Tai Chi guys and started training with them and it seriously helped our Judo game I love both arts and will not get into a this one is better then that one debate I say train both and enjoy :-)

[@lindltailor]

Translation: Taiji taught them something that Judo didn't have

[@kevkingjj]

@Tai Chi Tube bullshit. any olympic level judoka would cripple you and your weak ass tai chi bs

[@ckaraten]

There are plenty of fakes out there, but to everyone who doesn’t know Tai chi saying this is fake: Master Wang is actually practicing Tai Chi perfectly. The whole aim of martial tai chi is to have a strong root and to throw out your opponents’ centre of gravity. That is exactly what is happening here. Notice that the Judo practitioner (and I’m a huge fan of judo) is unsuccessfully trying to gain the specific foothold needed to upset Wang’s centre of gravity, but Master Wang is absolutely rooted, even to the point where his foot comes up and he’s able to retain his centre of gravity. Good Peng or staged? You be the judge, but to the trained eye this is completely legit.

[@Negative_creep3383]

You sure dont know nothing about judo. White gi is obviously faking It. Thing is, chinese have a very nationalistic view on kung fu and its "superiority", specialy over judo, which is a japanese style, and you know, the japanese empire was Hitler to the Chinese people.

[@edgardo9003]

How about Shuai Jiao vs Judo?

[@HenryFlores4]

Guys, guys...settle down. We all know that this is fake. But shame on the Judoka for going along with this... Clearly all he had to do was an ogoshi or even a taiotoshi. But, that's just me...

[@jurgenfischer7683]

Some people think it‘s fake. Why? To throw your opponent, the first thing you have to do is, bring him out of balance. By pushing, pulling, lifting. But what, of you can‘t?

[@wai-leeho6375]

A real judo player would have used o-uchi gari when the tachi practitioner shifted his weight to his left side. I practice both judo and kung fu. There is no superior martial arts, only superior fighter.

[@lehien955]

***** are you sure? most of all martial arts have root in INDIA.

[@srinivasanit]

i like that words 'There is no superior martial arts, only superior fighter'

[@lolzhhahaha]

Wai-Lee Ho indeed there is only a superior fighter not a superior martial arts, this means that the tai chi master was the better fighter in this little match :)

[@Supermomo2007]

which kung fu style do you practice???? kung fu has throws already and it is complete.

[@Supermomo2007]

roots in india??? ah where are the indian martial arts now???

[@meerweenhafeez9945]

I challenge this master Tai Chi to fight me in MMA style. I wait for the reply,

[@BL0HARD]

“No shoes on the Judo mat, get off!”

[@cdm676407]

I lived in China for over 12 years and was the first BJJ black belt to live an own a martial arts school in China. I also trained judo and Chinese Shuai Jiao for decades and trained with the best Shuai Jiao master in Beijing while I was there. I have taught and trained with dozens of Chinese martial artists (Taiji, Bagua, San Da, Xing Yi, etc.,) as well. And while there are some cools things about these traditional styles, I can tell you without bias or emotion that this video is utter nonsense. No grips, no combos, no changing levels and absolutely no idea about the concept of kusushi. Shuai Jiao wrestlers (and skilled judoka) would toss this guy into orbit and every real martial artist in China knows it.

[@cwpolo17]

Hmmm, this seems dubious. The judoka isn't going full out. I smell a "work".

[@TheNEOONE1]

Your comments are cringe

[@remiqremi6560]

Kouchi gari, ouchi gari, tomoe nage - 3 simple techniques that whould have ended this shi** farse in second. Another thing if this judo practicioner is real black belt he whould never have tried to do osoto gari in that sytuation. Main principle is to throw oponent from balance. If oponent has balance in front you throw him into his back. This judo practicioner fought like total beginer. I am green belt myself and this taichi sh** master whould have ended with broken ribbs or worse after fighting with me without knowing how to fall. Fuc**** propaganda lies

[@ungorilaenrd]

Uchumata is great when opponents have separate legs to

[@Sei1989]

anyone who's grappled can see that he's got great base. here's the thing though. his a Tai Chi Master and the judo practitioner was just a black belt

[@MrMwmussel1]

I believe the key wording was “in certain situations”. It would seem this was a friendly test of one of those situations in which the Thai Chi master thought he might have the upper hand.

[@FaridYM]

we all knew what happens when a traditional wushu/kungfu/taiji/wingchun master fights a serious fighter like xu xiangdong

[@taoliu3949]

Xu Xiaodong actually somewhat respects Wang Zhanhai (the Taichi practitioner in the video) and has invited him to his gym in the past. He's openly stated that Taichi is good for Grappling and Wrestling. That said, Dan Docherty and Neil Rosiak has already demonstrated Taichis usefulness in MMA.

[@Shrapnel1234]

Xu Xiaodong surely is a great guy, but he's an amateur-rank fighter at best, he's kind of a dad with a beer belly that knows how to fight. And even then matching him with tai chi guys is a mismatch bordering on cruel. Imagine these "masters" facing actual world-level fighters.

[@MoluskToeCheese]

SHOES ON THE MAT?!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@maksymmerkulow5196]

What is wrong?

[@ungas024]

Maksym Merkulow i used to practice karatedo, it is rude to wear shoes on the tatami. It is disrespectful in a sense. I guess it is the same for all martial arts.

[@pchemist]

No, kung fu practitioners usually wear outdoor clothes since we're probably going to be outside when we need to use martial arts. The Chinese didn't do battle in their underwear.

[@squatch570]

pchemist But when they enter a dojo, they need to respect it and remove their shoes on the tatame. Huge disrespect on the part of that alleged "Master".

[@obsidianstatue]

so many key board martial artists on youtube's comment section. LOL

[@-sisjsksn]

Lol you are keyboard warrior stupid

[@jimlowe5433]

You are very correct about that obsidianstatue

[@wsja18]

Didn't look to me as if the judo guy was trying very hard

[@naturewatcher7596]

Good exercise to check your grounding skill. But it's not a fight, so the title is misleading.

[@captainmanacles]

A lot of people are saying the Judoka is bad at Judo, but it looks a lot more like a good Judoka who has been told to screw around but not throw the guy. The Tai Chi guy probably has some techniques that are essentially "no gi" grappling that the judoka isn't use to, which is what I see in a lot of the beginning of the video, it's just taking him a bit to get his grip, but then once he does and off balances the guy, it seems like he's letting the guy get his balance back, and he's avoiding any techniques that would just end it without question like Ouchi. If they really want to prove that Tai Chi is that good at redirecting energy and stuff they should just enter UFC.

[@therealawakener7]

More Non sequitur crap from naive uploaders. It does not follow that Tai Chi is better than Judo because one master stays on his feet in one bout of non-combat nonsense, just as it doesn't make judo better if the Tai chi man falls over, this is a strawman. In the totality of real combat neither Tai Chi or Judo would need to be employed as in fact Tai Chi, Judo, Boxing, Karate, etc, etc, do not exist in 'Liberated' minds as styles are for immature children only, mature men see beyond the playground and into the battlefields of combat. Ask yourself this...How long would they have been doing their supposed styles if either one of them had of gone for an eye gouge, groin grab, throat grab, knee to the groin, foot stamp, etc???. How long?.... Reality turns the 'Organised Despair' into dust with just a single wave of its hand. Sincerely, Jimi:-).

[@KGS922]

I'm pretty sure many Kung Fu styles have techniques for responding to eye gouge, throat grab, knees to the groin etc. Dodging, parrying, etc.

[@therealawakener7]

Kamal G And.... your point is what?? Think very carefully before you speak further, it's not my intent to embarrass you but it may appear that way if you press your erroneous, naive, train of thought:-).

[@MichaelWestonAnimates]

LMA UK Good lord, you're misguided. And arrogant, if you think you can just dismiss and place yourself as above codified combat practices which have informed battlefield tactics for centuries (and still do today) as "for immature children." The *point* is that since every single thing you mentioned is INSIDE of at least some codified fighting systems, and since those fighting systems have been used in myriad combat situations over the years, the idea that there is no way a martial artist training in any fighting style could possibly employ their art because their opponent uses one of those is asinine and puts your ignorance on full display.

[@MichaelWestonAnimates]

LMA UK Now, there is *some* truth to your words, though I don't think you actually realize it. 1. Codified fighting systems are artificial; they ultimately all point to a core of honing the ability to employ force efficiently with your body, be aware of your opponent and environment, and deal with hostile incoming force effectively. That does NOT make them useless, it just leads to the second point... 2. It does NOT follow from this video that Taiji is better than Judo. Since they work from the same set of body skills, what this actually showed was that this Taiji practitioner was more advanced in his skill than the Judo practitioner was. Now get the fuck out with your elitist bullshit :-)

[@therealawakener7]

Michael Weston "Elitist bullshit", lol. Have a great day, I have things to do,:-).

[@michaeljung4398]

I am guessing just like everybody else. I wouldn't call myself neither a tai chi nor a judo practitioner. The judo black belt looks quite strong and most likely practiced judo for a long time, at least for 10 years. However, it was not easy to unbalance the tai chi master for a simple reason: tai chi practitioner practices to maintain balance a lot. In fact that's what the tai chi master said, test his "rooting". I am pretty sure he practices the push hands and rooting a lot. Maybe, there was previously agreed rules. Judo black belt didn't use many techniques. Somebody mentioned high grip was not used. Whatever it is, it looks like it cannot be used even though judo practitioner's hand was at the neck. Tai Chi master had a low balanced posture. There was too much gap between them for the most of the time. Balance must be destroyed before that kind of the techniques are used. Tai Chi master maintained the balance and the judo black belt didn't when he tried to apply the leg sweeping technique.

[@marks5835]

+MICHAEL JUNG I do Judo and BJJ. The black belt was taking it easy or this show is rigged. He threw no combinations (where you set up a throw with another throw). He also didn't really change direction (Where you push one way to force a reaction and then suddenly change direction to make it easier to off balance them)

[@gregcyr]

+MICHAEL JUNG I'm in the same boat as Mark (do both), and the performance of this black belt is shameful. I could throw this idiot. Given his stance, uchimata would be my preference, but I see many other options.

[@jordanpir68]

THE FIRST THINGS ANY JUDOKA LEARNS AFTER THE UKEMIS IS THE KUMIKATA AND THE KUZUSHI AND THIS FAKE MASTER DOESNT KNOW ANY OF THEM

[@mike2011989]

its hardf to unbalance someone if he pays you good money to NOT to it

[@TheTimoNoir]

MICHAEL JUNG no point in rationalizing the nature of this video. Any person who trains will know this is complete bullshido

[@josealvira2384]

This is great!! LOL

[@Zerraniumetal]

¡Que coincidencia!lol

[@AkronKid330]

okay so at the end of the day what is better to take? Please help

[@minecraftotalwar]

Mike Gauer they are completly different arts. But on my on perspective its better to take taiji overall

[@johnnyauer22]

judo. this was just a shitty judoka

[@zijunqiao5845]

why didnt the black belt try some seoi nage

[@kjenterprises8215]

Please don't upload phony videos like this! Tai Chi is an excellent self-defense system. I've practiced Tai Chi for 30+ years and love it. Having watched this video at least 5 times, I can't believe the judo man failed to execute simple takedowns like tomoe nage or yoko guruma, or, seoinage. Or, Osotogari which is my favorite judo leg reap. When properly executed, there is no defense to solid judo. Your opponent will fall, period.

[@svengalihelp]

I think the key is in Master Wang's statement at 1:28 when he say's "I think in some situations Judo might not be able to beat Taiji" - I think personally that this imposed constraints on what the Judoka were allowed to attack with - it is clear form their movements that they could have implemented the attacks you suggest and Master Wang would have had no real defence.

[@TheUndertow666]

The judoka did try O soto gari at 2:40. It was "reversed".

[@1swt]

There definitely are counters to the throws you mentioned, but other than that spot on!

[@kjenterprises8215]

@Kokwah Tan - Less than 1% of Tai Chi Academies allow sparring. It's not the art that lacks capability, it's the instructor. As you are well aware (there are judo styles throws, jointlocks, elbow, and knees strikes in traditional Taijiquan. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGivfox9mbCJZ9k

[@Master-AGN]

CCP propaganda vid, don't waste your viewing time with it.

[@Japsown]

Than why do you still watching at it? you hater is more than nothing so go back to your America white scam channel !

[@Master-AGN]

Not watching it, just answering messages from trolls like you. You are full of BS. You are a paid CCP troll and it is UNAMERICAN, UNJAPANESE, UNAUSTRALIAN and stupid for any citizen of any country to buy Chinese product. Every time a US person or Japanese buys a Chinese product they are paying for bullets and bombs that will be aimed at them. Everyone knows what you are really like now.

[@Japsown]

Shannon Lodge Speaking to a brainless like you it is really waste of time

[@TaiChiGhost]

Heads up folks, Tai-Chi is real. Some 30 years ago, when my highest level (out of 11) Martial Arts instructors was new to America, we were looking for a place to practice and found ourselves at Lake Merritt in Oakland, California. She spotted a good sized fellow walking by the lake and they struck up a conversation. My teacher, Jane Yao, could spot a Master, or someone with strong potential, from the distance of a city block. Many Masters can do that. So naturally a challenge was offered, and no matter how much he struggled, the Judo Master could not lift her from the ground. He was an Olympic Judoka and twice her size. Furthermore, she was not in the least bit winded. This stuff is real, but the highest levels are difficult to attain, and the highest level Tai-Chi Masters are a little fussy.

[@spladam3845]

Tai Chi is great, but it cannot overcome physics, or weight classes, and even in Judo, you are at a disadvantage against a bigger opponent. I would take the story of the larger Judo master not being able to lift her feet with a grain of salt.

[@teothomas681]

For Judokas - An ouchi gari or kouchi gari or would have work well here. Regardless of his stability, the throws would have taken his entire footing off the ground. Intact the low CG would probably add to the effectiveness of the throw when it comes to ouchi/kocuhi gari.

[@dilly2000]

A Judo black belt would throw this wing Chung guy through the center of the planet.

[@philv2529]

I think Tai chi doesn't get enough respect as a combat form because all that westerners are exposed to are hipsters in the park moving slow. I know little about it so I can't judge either way.

[@ospartiatis]

He should go to mma and see how far his little crap skills go. Any self respecting Judoka with as little as a brown belt would wreck him. I got 10k says if he comes to my club, I'll wipe the mat with him.

[@spikebaltar5071]

True martial artist don't judge and assume. so far you're making your self look and sound like that douchy mma guy

[@respeezy]

Fake crap

[@Szczecinski_Klub_Taijiquan]

Thanks for Sharing all the Videos!

[@jenjiujitsu]

He was attempting really half assed "judo" techniques. Showed too much respect. Anyway, the old guy had good balance too

[@k9m42]

So Fake...

[@नागराज-न4झ]

To all the assholes commenting out here it takes a lot to master chen taiji too!And to shake a master's base is not so easy

[@thejoojoo9999]

Yes, we aren't saying Tai Chi is bullshit, we're saying this video is bullshit.

[@नागराज-न4झ]

Vern Trex There are many forms...and different sifus even in chen family have different numbering.Only consistent thing i found is Laojia,xiaojia,old chen form because there are sifus who don't teach new form.And i've heard that chen family kids are subjected to basic Laojia form only training harshly for 10 years!before being taught other forms..Is that true?

[@नागराज-न4झ]

Vern Trex 😂

[@jorhay1]

Xu Lives!

[@MindBat]

It is obvious to see there was an agreement that only a throw would be demonstrated and nullified. If it were a real fight, we would've witnessed a totally different scenario with the Tai Chi expert on the ground several times.

[@yudhagendhon2533]

why don't you try ucimata or seoi nage,that tai chi stands is easy to make him down with that tecnique

[@baldieman64]

Xu Xiaodong on line 3. Will you take the call?

[@taoliu3949]

Xu Xiaodong actually somewhat respects Wang Zhanhai (the Taichi practitioner in the video) and has invited him to his gym in the past. He's openly stated that Taichi is good for Grappling and Wrestling.

[@mattbugg4568]

Yeah yeah, it is really hard to throw a rooted tai chi guy, however pakua practitioners do it all the time as I believe the judo guy could also. They specialize in different ranges between the two arts shown. Its a fact that if you wrestle with someone trying takedown on your your eventually going to be taken down, and if you push with someone trying to push you out your eventually going to be pushed out. Its common since that if you stick to the main line of a style you will eventually have happen what they style teaches. However the game has been modified in mma to use more than one specialized skill and follows a systematic approach to "clinch" specialized skill," takedown" specialized skill, "submission" specialized skill. "Ground" several specialized skills. Tai chi offers "standing grappling" specialize skill," twee shu" pushing hands pushing out specialized skill, and point striking, specialized skill. Its missing takedown and ground work in most examples although it does exist in dog boxing, and chaio shio. Judo uses takedown specialized skill nei wasa. Specialized skill. Pinning techniques specialized skill. The problem isn't comparing which is better, the problem is that they are not comparing apples to apples, testing pushing out to takedowns is mute because they are two different skills.

[@jonmoris9354]

Ive done judo for 8 years i can promise you this is a set up especially the last throw he went for one of my fave a hook to hopping osoto gari if he wanted he could have driven the master through the mat but didnt because he was told not to

[@antonarap]

People say its fake but its not necessarily so. The Judoka was obviously not allowed to pull the other one's gi. Having trained in Judo for many years, I can tell you we don´t really know how to go about without doing that. Also, I have seen serious judocas melt in front of greco roman wrestlers with a solid stance, even though both wore gi. We were training next to the wrestlers' gymnasium, and we never deluded ourselves about who was the real deal.

[@MinistryofHealth-p2z]

what is the point of being passive?:D

[@jimmyalderson1639]

Clearly before the march his sensei went 'so, um, this guy's from Achina and the last person who best a Tai Chi guy was forced into hiding so, you know, let him win'

[@kelvinleong6876]

Is it an advertisement ?

[@RafaelRodriguez-gy7bd]

How much did they pay the judo guy?

[@eduardojavierrosasvillarre7344]

How mucho to they pay you

[@Mihawk1848]

Judoka: this great master is loaded..um, i mean very stable...

[@Dan0101010101010]

This might not be fake, Tai Chi relies on isometric and eccentric strength which is greater than concentric strength which is what the judo guy was using, the same principle is used in an authentic muay thai clinch to stop from being turned or to stop escapes etc Tai Chi has a lot of advanced things going on, its a very clever and deep art and while it probably wouldn't fair too well against MMA (which can be influenced by every countries fighting style and modern progress) it still has alot to offer. For a long time China was the leader in the world of martial arts, and their arts are very deep and sophisticated.

[@Supermomo2007]

tai chi can do very well against mma, depends on training.

[@remiqremi6560]

Lets add: shi** osoto at 2.28 (sorry osoto could have worked but it seems that judo gave up to not throw taichi) , who does Deashi harai this way? 1.54

[@BaninDiarSukmono]

Why is there no punch?????

[@bluepuppystudios3617]

It's like watching two people who have never fought or even seen a fight before brawling it out.

[@equinociodeverao8155]

self confidence, competence and kindness. congratulations.

[@ropongi1008]

The Judoka didn't even try to establish his Judo grips. I don't know, I have some dought about what I just watched, but I don't know.

[@joshuabrant3487]

It might not be entirely fixed but at the very least they agreed to go at a very low intensity