TAIWAN PAC-3 PATRIOT SYSTEM spotted in CHINA!?

This is indeed a patriot and it is Taiwanese colors. PAC-3. The text at the side reads INERT Missile Round Trainer. So its unlikely to be a LIVE missile. Probably a training version with no LIVE missiles.
The "car plate" of the truck is also in the style of the chinese car plates. 津F8238超. The company of the truck is from Xuzhou (with chinese characters can be read in front of the weapon system 徐州)
Taiwanese car plates format is different. Which is usually 3 letters with 3 or 4 numbers, or 4 numbers with 2 letters.
China car plates with have 1 chinese character (telling which province it is from) with 1 letters and then 4 numbers. Sometimes it ends with 1 more chinese character behind it.
So this photo very likely to be taken in china.
The tire of the patriot is deflated. The most likely situation is that this is a training dummy.
But more wild possibility is that, this is smuggled into China from Taiwan. (we never know).
Interesting photo.
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[@herman60]

fyi,not mirror or radar,its stabilisation pad for hydraulic arms.We use them daily on hiab trucks as well. Most missile launchers need stabilising for accurate firing platform,to level.lol apollo lunar module had them too,funny as,cos zero dirt in them.,,wqhich negates film of module on moon being genuine.

[@DefensePoliticsAsia]

haha! Thanks. I am totally not geeky about such technical stuffs. Pinning this.

[@ImperativeGames]

Stabilization for firing and because ground may be uneven.

[@herman60]

@@DefensePoliticsAsia nb im limited knowledge geek,but note that patriot/buk type systems have seperate radar vehicles,command control ops units vehicles. Which betrayed the erntire mh17 b/s story ,notwithstanding fact never is 1 only missile used on those ancient systems.Then entire narrative re su25 bs,when ukies had plethora of migs in air that day in same grid,and eyewitnesses inc vlad zacharchenko,givi amongst 100 others. LET ALONE 30MM CANNON SHELLS FOUND IN PILOT AND WRECKAGE, But thankyou for your massive input,genuine reporting commander,it is so needed and appreciated .

[@cbhlde]

You obviously do not need those on flat earth! Which negates stabilization pad theory being genuine. So must be indeed very special secret radar as Commander logically deduced! See, how that works? :p

[@jeffreyspinner5437]

Just because you don't see those parts, does IN NO WAY imply those weren't transferred separately and only this was observed by the public. Logical Fallacies used but not limited to: Tu Quoque, Proving Non-existence.

[@AzizAziz-lc2qk]

China must have acquired the patriots in order to study how NOT to design air defense equipment lol

[@yosawin3018]

I mean having any SAM systems is still a very good thing regardless of whether it's good or not, they can pose threat to the PLAAF and needed to be taken care of, just don't expect them to intercept hypersonic stuffs (and idk abut its reliability). The MICs are looking to make money so the Americans are happy anyway. Plus, it's stupid to underestimate your enemies, don't be like the NAFO idiots. Idk much about PLA's SAM systems but they have quite a lot of Russian derivatives like their local made S-300 and this war has shown how good those SAM systems actually are, provided that there are enough and well-manned so the Chinese already have good base to work with.

[@cheeseongho5494]

😂😂😂😂

[@nedkelly9688]

Better then any Chinese or Russian systems lol.. also clueless as these are just launcher tubes and will get no tech from them. most important parts are radars and the software platforms. also this video is alie as these were said to be from Ukraine and not Taiwan.. misleading channels need to be banned....

[@gandhi9936]

Have Taiwanese learned the lessons of Ukraine yet? Lesson No 1 : America does not care one bit for your people...

[@thulomanchay]

There are Taiwanese, and Taiwanese and Taiwanese. One of them are for independence. Japanese ancestry. One for reunification. Chinese ancestry. One in-between. "Democracy and Freedom"

[@jeffreyspinner5437]

If since the war criminal many times over Henry Kissinger's 1968's quote: "Being America's enemy is dangerous, being America's friend is lethal." I have NO sympathy for any country doing the same thing and expecting different results.

[@bushwookie2438]

neither does the CCP, Philippines utilize the US, Taiwan Utilize the US, US utilize everybody, its an alliance its for convenience

[@justarandomname420]

America doesn't care about Americans.

[@garyshepherdly9357]

@ghandi You said it Best 👌. The rest of the world need to take note. America 🇺🇸 n Uk 🇬🇧 have 0 loyalty n only do things that benefits them 😊.

[@rastoferi6012]

Taiwan has also been sending their semiconductor engineers to the mainland to make Huawei great again. I love that province

[@birdcagegood2972]

Taiwan is not a province of China. China is a province of Taiwan. 🇹🇼 🎉😊

[@rastoferi6012]

@@birdcagegood2972 as long as there's only 1 China, I'm good

[@kanestalin7246]

​@@birdcagegood2972then why do you imbeciles claim taiwan is independent from China?

[@michaellou7101]

@@birdcagegood2972 Whatever you say. I like that you think they are one part of each other. The only matter is who's on top, and that's a civil war issue that can be solved between brothers. Otherwise, it's Chinese vs foreign occupiers on Chinese island territory. Taiwan's choice.

[@enigmaticabdi2368]

China will soon realise they have wasted their time studying patriot as as the Ukrainians and Saudis have found out to their cost😂😂

[@MyVlogTubes]

Its intresting for weapon scientists to learn from .

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

Not necessarily! The Patriot may well be a very flawed, obsolete system, and China won't be copying much from it. But China can still learn its weaknesses and how to target it (assuming this is indeed a legit Patriot system)

[@thulomanchay]

China will still study the Patriot system. To learn how to counter them. And to learn from them how to build a better system.

[@lukemckay3262]

The true value could well be learning how western a2ad is interlinked. It helps you understand the overarching strategy

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@thulomanchay How? This is a fake system. The wheels are wrong, the lights on the back are wrong, the cables are wrong. And it says "INERT" on the side. It's a target to be used in training. Not a real piece.

[@user-hf4kv3jy5w]

The Patriot system does not work all the time, as Saudi Arabia and the UAE discovered. Patriot missiles are so expensive that it is cheaper to let the enemy missile hit its target than try to intercept it.

[@Howardlifts]

It's overrated like everything else america makes

[@Stratigoz]

Try to intercept. Correction

[@para-tanker]

A lot of things depend on the operator, those operators are known to be very incompotent as the conflict in Yemen has shown the world.

[@Howardlifts]

@@para-tanker it's just garbage tbh

[@para-tanker]

@@Howardlifts all systems have their weaknesses, the S400 was taken out quite often by now, advertised as a wonderweapon but taken out by a country without 5th gen fighters

[@SonyJimable]

Every system sent to Ukraine will find its secrets gifted to Russia, just as everything sent to Taiwan will be offered up to China. Both have considerable people networks and significant support among the populations.

[@Moshikokotashima]

China and Taiwan are one blood.

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

Unsurprising as the Mainland and Taiwan are basically the same people. It is in fact even closer than that. At least Ukrainian is a different language/dialect of the Eastern Slavic family, but is actually different than Russian. The Taiwanese just speak plain vanilla Mandarin, same language as everyone in northern China. And those who speak something else probably speak Hokkien, as that's the Chinese dialect spoken in Fujian province on the opposite coast from Taiwan. I am from Hong Kong. My grandfather fought for the KMT during WW2 and could easily have gone to Taiwan had he not been married to my grandmother who was Cantonese. Notwithstanding the ridiculous propaganda peddled by Western media, there are very large numbers of Taiwanese living on the Mainland who are doing very well. For more than a decade, China successfully poached a lot of TSMC engineers by offering higher salaries, good work conditions, apartments, etc. A lot of Taiwanese have property on the Mainland (And why not? The Mainland sees Taiwan as its own people, so everyone is equal. As in the case of Ukraine/Russia, it is the smaller entity that discriminates out of fear, not the bigger one. The Mainland is absolutely chill with Taiwan.)

[@vatnikxxi7717]

Just like Russia and Ukraine are one-blood brothers ​@@Moshikokotashima

[@DIREWOLFx75]

"Every system sent to Ukraine will find its secrets gifted to Russia" Eh, thing is that nowadays, Russia isn't actually all that interested. They pretty much have their own versions of everything Nato has and it's generally a tossup which is clearly better.

[@ericp1139]

F-16s sweating profusely

[@Eonclaire]

i like how NAFO is so triggered, and they cant even read chinese to verify it . Their innate mechanism is to lump all the photos to proof its fake , classic NAFO

[@youareliedtobythemedia]

i like how you think this is some massive win for china, when really it is only the stabilizer part, and the patriot is really old tech anyway. it doesn't even matter if the photos are legit or not. so the real question is, why are all you NAFO haters fapping to something completely irelevant?

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Why would a real system have INERT written on the side?

[@ZugZugMahogny]

did you even watch the full video?

[@vasili-jy8yb]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD did you watch the entire video?

[@luisodriozola79]

@@vasili-jy8yb Oh, he did, he just pretends he didn`t... it`s always the same with those NAFO guys. I`m starting to think they are some kind of lame online Psy-operation or something.

[@Ahmaurnamu]

Those are stabilizers, four of those kiss the ground kinda like most heavy vehicles when deployed.

[@vincent3596]

超on the number plate means the vehicle is a special purpose vehicle with extended length/height/weight

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

Yes. It also says "长车" on the horizontal bar, followed by "徐州华飞接车" (Note I found a higher resolution version of that photo at 2605x1834 pixels). Also, the first three characters on the blue sign says 蓝旗中, but I can't see the last character. The words above it are too blurry even at the higher resolution. The English text says "Traffic" followed by a word that could be "Police" (half the word is covered by the black cabin of the truck). The red banner reads 思想大解放，能力大?? (last two characters are covered)

[@BMac7773]

I wouldn't say it's invalidated for sure. Lots of ways a Taiwanese patriot could end up in Ukraine, same ways Serbian ammo is in Ukraine. They sell it to someone else and it goes to ukraine.

[@luisodriozola79]

Well, it`s easier to think that the chinese obtained it from the taiwanese.

[@dirremoire]

@@luisodriozola79 Maybe it was supposed to be shipped to Taiwan, but at the last minute it was shipped to Ukraine to help train their crews.

[@luisodriozola79]

​@@dirremoire So Russia captured a patriot without advertizing it and then gave it to China... for what reasons? Why all this convoluted chain of suppositions?... Ah yes, because giving all this stuff to Taiwan only to have some officer sent to China right away makes people look rather silly. Sorry, the incredible story of the little Patriot trainer who wanted to travel the world doesn`t add to me. That patriot just crossed the pool from Taiwan and went straight to chinese hands, it`s the easier and most logical suposition.

[@dirremoire]

@luisodriozola79 but how could it be shipped directly to China from Taiwan?. I'm sure we have advisors in Taiwan who personally supervise these Patriot systems. They would know if one went missing.

[@luisodriozola79]

@@dirremoire The same way it would be shipped from Ukraine to China. Please, you don`t know what happens to tens billions of dollars inside the Pentagon itself, let alone inside a country your officers can`t even find in a map.

[@slavarussia2773]

Russian washing machines and shovels are more advanced than patriot XD

[@caleebdiscarga6120]

😅😅😅😅😅 100%

[@Br1cht]

How many pride parades do Russia have? West for Win!!! Wait… Oh… never mind.. 😢

[@raghardeishi972]

Tires are deflated because it gives better stability during transport. And Tarp isn't covering it because mainland Chinese are Chinese.

[@alanfriesen9837]

It allows it to clear lower overpasses.

[@Corsa15DT]

while the patriot is obsolete piece of metal, this will trigger a lot of nato bots :D

[@DefensePoliticsAsia]

Yes it did. Everyone is coping.

[@Botzorz]

hey now its the best system in the world for extracting taxpayer money

[@slavarussia2773]

Russian washing machines and shovels are more advanced than patriot XD

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Patriot is just a brand name. U can manufacture whatever u wish under that name if u own the brand. For example: Patriot PAC3 washing machine - clears dirty cloths by banging them against the washing machine body.

[@Howardlifts]

​@@DefensePoliticsAsiaI think it's hilarious, karma is best served cold 😂

[@mohamadfahmi5667]

You kinda doxxed yourself when you opened Google Maps (frame by frame you can get a pretty good picture of where you are)… I would cut that out if I were you because you never know with the internet.

[@jebotipasmater]

Yes, commander, upgrade your opsec! 🫡

[@jensramputh]

Probably sold by Ukraine to China to fund the next villa purchase. 😂

[@helvosthecreator1920]

If it ends up once on the internet it stays on the internet. But yeah, if that indeed is his current location finding the exact address is stupid simple 😅

[@thesaul9484]

The Kalibr is already on its way to his house

[@lagrangewei]

we use VPN, so that not our real location =)

[@g00nther]

It's unlikely to be a Chinese replica as they wouldn't have painted "INERT" on the side, so it's likely a genuine model from Taiwan. Why it would be driven around openly and not covered up is a mystery.

[@jebotipasmater]

Maybe a simple opsec mistake? 😆

[@bryf2787]

cuz the Chinese 'war fooling bureau' is at work

[@dirremoire]

We all know that the Ukrainian high command is riddled with Russian moles. It'd be easy to set up a transfer where the Ukrainians would park this vehicle in a forest for the Russians to pick up later. This time, the Russians were scammed and sold a training launcher. That's why Russia decided to pawn it off to China.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Why would a genuine item have INERT on the side? Real missiles are not inert, they have a warhead and rocket fuel.

[@raghardeishi972]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Is it INERT marking? What's written on genuine missile?

[@zsarimaxim692]

That could be one of those U.S. arms that Taiwan has ordered but were diverted to Ukraine instead. I recall there was some Taiwan talk shows complaining about that.

[@AlanThree001]

... or someone pulled a ellensky... Why let it get destroyed when you can make money out of it.

[@kazegarasu4704]

Yeah i mean , why get destroyed if you can make money out of it ... Those are not cheap you know ..

[@bonaanayaga]

I agree it was sold by the operators why die for idiots eating steak at home

[@babykingkong7010]

That’s one of Purim’s gifts when he’s traveling to China this week.

[@festusimasiku7235]

My God, commander u have turned into FBI 😊😅❤🇿🇲

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

I saw a higher resolution version (2605x1834 pixels) of that photo. The blue sign reads "蓝旗中？" (Can't read the last character). There is also the words of the company 徐州华飞接车 underneath the number plate.

[@cauwenberghsroeland8607]

blue flag..... name of compagnie "that recovers /transports" cars ( tow truck ? ). 徐州华飞 : Xuzou Huafei ? ( google ) seems to be the name.

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

@@cauwenberghsroeland8607 Yes, I believe this to be the name of the company. But it still doesn't reveal much where that photo is, besides the truck probably comes from the city of Xuzhou. The 蓝旗中 may offer more hints. The English underneath it says Traffic followed by a word that could be Police (the last three letters are covered up).

[@jxmai7687]

Longhua County Chengde, Hebei, China 41°21'29.8"N 117°38'27.8"E 隆化县蓝旗镇少府村 😂

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

@@jxmai7687Very interesting! I looked again. There is a 蓝旗中学, but the last character on the sign doesn't look like 学. Nevertheless, there is a very interesting intersection between the S-352 and the road that runs west-east that look like it could be the intersection, but on Baidu and Gaode Maps, satellite images in that area are not high enough resolution. Hebei north of Beijing is hilly, so the geography would match.

[@bjorntorlarsson]

They wouldn't have painted "INERT" on it if it was a mock-up they themselves built for recognition training. Question is what they can learn from a training version of a Patriot.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

AND, they would copy the REAL thing not the training version. "Question is what they can learn from a training version of a Patriot." Probably not that much, which i guess is why they're not even the slightest covert about driving it around. Although the electronics should still be there, so it's possible they may be able to extract things like how to jam them better and things like that.

[@Fullgrym]

Not anything less than a "live" version of Patriot. What is important is the radar and the missile's guidance system, not the type of explosive in the missile.

[@rosomak8244]

They can "learn" the precise radar signature of the system for example.

[@bjorntorlarsson]

​@@rosomak8244 Not from a dummy that is made for the crew to learn how to deploy it from transportation to a fire position. (although rarely done for an immobile short-range point defense system like Patriot compared with the constantly mobile S-400). The Russians (and thus by trade the Chinese and the Iranians) already know everything about its radar signature. Their shooting down of almost all of them proves it. And of course they have plenty of fragments of the missiles to learn from. 40+ years old first cold war era systems of NATO! What a joke. Corruption preventing NATO countries from ever developing anything new and useful.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

@@rosomak8244 If they copy the live version, sure. If they copy the training version, they get the signature of the training version. Not nearly as useful.

[@ZivkoSkobic]

NAFO: There is no Patriots in Ba Sing Se!

[@ytuuuidvb6181]

Take a closer look at the details , rusnig already got blined by vodka ?

[@Brad-RB]

The tires were intentionally deflated to lower the overall height for clearance under bridges, wires, etc.

[@Game_Changer_00]

It was not captured, it was sold by the AFU to China.

[@digimaks]

It can't possibly be AFU since they got different color.

[@attilamarics3374]

@@digimaks I mean Ukraine recieved multiple different camo vehicles in thsi conflict, some of the tanks had desert camo for example.

[@ZugZugMahogny]

Maybe it was sold from taiwain to china, from china to russia and then tio ukraine, then ukraine sold it to mexican cartels that sold it to japan that sold it to russia that sold it to china

[@davidjohnson4956]

Sold to Russia or captured by Russia, sent via rail to Vladivostok and shipped to Tianjin. Photo was taken in 承德

[@kell7195]

Ahh the perfect Man to investigate this intrigue!

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

Russia paid those soldiers a nice bounty for that system

[@Moshikokotashima]

china should send all of its weapons systems with their crew to help Russia and test them against western weapons.

[@thulomanchay]

Looks like they were sold a dummy model.

[@DIREWOLFx75]

@@thulomanchay Not dummy. TRAINING model. The MISSILES are dummies. But the system isn't. You connect them up to a training command center and use it to train system operators with. With the pictured equipment's electronics simulating launching missiles.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@DIREWOLFx75 If such a simulator were made, why would it include any of the real data instead of just aproximations?

[@DIREWOLFx75]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Because to be a functional trainer, it HAS to have act EXACTLY the same as the real thing. And it's not a matter of IF it's been made, all nations that use Patriot have had their personnel go through the use of a trainer simulator. Most SAMs have some form of simulator for training crew with. Heck, my own nation did some really cool ones for our Rb-70. Aaand then made a civillian version that is basically a completely realistic game version that is available at airshows, museums and the like.

[@questtech2698]

Supposedly those patriot system to be sent to Taiwan but Zelensky intercepted it

[@user-cv9vi7hp7n]

не удивлюсь если украинцы ее просто продали, без всякого захвата. но тогда получается, что китайцы их жестко подставили, как бы "случайно" засветив купленную установку ПВО.

[@digimaks]

А кто докажет где и кто продал, и кто и как получил?

[@user-cv9vi7hp7n]

@@digimaks никто ничего не докажет, я высказал лишь предположение. Но если оно верно, то у западных спонсоров, возникнет масса вопросов. А отследить пути доставки, будет не так сложно, учитывая нарочитую показательную открытость этой перевозки. Если что-то пытаются скрыть, это стараются скрыть. А если хотят, чтобы это было замечено, то и действуют соответственно. Но опять таки... если все это правда. Пока нет никакой достоверной информации, кроме сомнительного фото из сомнительного источника.

[@trananhdng8031]

兄弟这东西都说是俄罗斯给的😅😅😅

[@user-cv9vi7hp7n]

@@trananhdng8031 ну смотри... установка в отличном состоянии(как минимум, мы не видим следов повреждений). ее не захватили и не поразили. такие системы вообще близко к линии фронта не подводят. Так что если установка пришла из России, то русские купили ее у всу. А если подарили, значит купи не одну. Потому как самим интересно разобрать до винтика. Так что, если фото не фейк, то у "страны 404" большие проблемы.

[@karlmunford7000]

4:07 - What type of jet is that in the sky of the photo, does that say anything about this issue?

[@normankoo6159]

Taiwan just provided it to China. It’s so easy to do as Kinmen is only 2km from the Chinese coast.

[@notquam8672]

Hey DPA, I hope you see this. Ryan Macbeth made a very informative video picking apart how this most likely is a mockup. If you care about being genuine I hope you can put this out. Thanks!

[@alanmcbride6658]

Cheers Wyatt.

[@bunkerhousing]

Someone who have been where photo was taken would know the geolocation, we just have to wait for one of these persons to see this and spill the details.

[@namelesswarrior4760]

Yeah! We are just borrowing it for the weekend for "Show & Tell". Thanks

[@raghardeishi972]

If they have Taiwan TEL, does China have also PAC-2 and PAC-3 missiles for sensor analysis?

[@jdlflagstone6980]

10:34 the tires are deflated in order to reduce the overall height of the cargo for transportation

[@olivieryeung398]

Always interesting to watch DPA to hear Wyatt 's view on defense politics and Asia!

[@YahWay.]

This is in China, it's a movie prop and the guy who built it has told everybody that's what it is, Other KZbinrs I've dealt with is also saying it doesn't look right including the trailer looks wrong. In addition, it would make zero sense for Ukraine to sell this for any amount of money, because I think the United States would notice it's missing from Ukraine.

[@jdlflagstone6980]

Lol that's untrue. If it was a movie prop they wouldn't paint "inert" on the side of it..

[@Garyhlin]

超means overweight or overdimention load?

[@RAMZAVFX]

10:13 its a support arm. Similar to what cranes, cherry pickers, and other mobile artillery have. The armes lower, the battery fires, arms raise up, and it scoots

[@cbhlde]

Wyatt Holmes and DPA Watson! :)

[@foetaltreborus2017]

Fascinating .

[@dougselby7592]

Might this picture be from Taiwan, but the truck is one from the mainland?

[@RomanVarl]

It's a mockup, not real. There are many reviews on this photo from US ex-military.

[@arnoldsaunders6073]

Deflated tyres make the load more stable.

[@jdlflagstone6980]

Height restrictions usually

[@kriss1_]

Deflated tires could be just for transporting, height limit etc.

[@Matthew-cp4mu]

There’s were only two patriot systems sent to Ukraine so it’s ridiculous to think one was smuggled out or captured. This is a mock up…. A really good one at that but still not a real patriot: the trailer has only one set of wheels, the back lights are incorrect, it’s missing a generator, the cables on the back are miss placed, the LEM on the side is missing any cables, and lastly it’s using a hydroelectric piston rather than a screw.

[@LeandroAndrus-fn4pt]

Those are not mirrors. Those are extendable legs for absorbing recoil

[@jackburgess8579]

China's haulage companies must have trucks driving around Taiwan. Why cannot it be a Chinese truck being utilised in Taiwan?

[@Temstar04]

Because that's simplified Chinese and the plate says it's from Tianjin

[@Archy11102]

It's a mockup of Patriot launcher (most likely used by PRC military for training), and this one has quite a few differences to real Patriot launcher.

[@user-td1mo4ff4c]

It looks like it was made for machine learning of CN analog of "Lancet" drone.

[@merocaine]

Hard to believe, why no tarp covering it?

[@thehumus8688]

Why you need tarp to cover it ? Military hardware build for outdoor even when moving F-16 (as aircraft more fragile), Israel just transport it as it is in flatback trucks

[@opfor8465]

for negative PR this is why , it's for showing up.

[@merocaine]

@@thehumus8688 sensitive military secret.

[@randymarsh1471]

For propaganda cause

[@merocaine]

@@opfor8465 wrong.

[@Conserpov]

What's most likely - this is just a training mockup, maybe even a movie prop. Tires are likely deflated for overhead clearance.

[@themilosgrozni237]

few thing about those patriots. n 1) somewhere around 10:00 minutes you claim that there's a mirror on the back of the truck. that thing is NOT A MIRROR but it's one of 4 stabilizing .."legs " ( i don't know how else to call them ). once the system is deployed ,those legs are placed to the ground and they are ensuring that wehicle is stable while it's lounching it's missiles ( it's pretty common solutions both in the west as in russia ). n 2) system that you claim is in china ( one that we see from the back ) is a PAC 3 wich has 16 missiles ( 4 containers " quadpacked") . while those that wee see in taiwan SEEM to be PAC 2 wich has 4 large missiles ( every container has a single missile. 3) also ,patriot in china seem to be containing missiles....and it doesn't seem to have been used 4) in my oppinion that system looks wayy too detailed / unreasonably detailed and over done for being a decoy for optical guidance weapons . most optical guidance system are easely fooled by inflatable decoys ( you can find both russian and western infatable decoys ). 5) military colors of a country don't differ very much and they vary based on climate and vegetation where they are going to be used...so i would'nt read too much into colors i don't know what the story of this thing could be ...but it has to be fascinating. if this a real thing...my best explanation is that some corrupt ukrainian officials have soled one TEL vehicle to russia. because what we see here is not the ENTIRE SYSTEM but a SINGLE transporter errector loncher vehicle.

[@YongLi-np3wg]

Does Ukraine even have pac-3?

[@lukaswatts8422]

Tell me in what universe where if russia were to get a patriot system theough corruption they wouldnt announce it to the world immediately. The propaganda value would infinite and very useful. There is no way if russia were to obtain a patriot they would quitely give to china

[@themilosgrozni237]

@@YongLi-np3wg i don't know if they have PAC 3 ...but lot of stuff has been given to them, so i think it's possible that they might have some.

[@ZugZugMahogny]

The leap from Ukraine selling a patriot system looking more like the taiwanese training system then their own to russia that handed it over to china is a better explanation then that china made a replica for training purposes or got their hands on a taiwanese one?

[@YongLi-np3wg]

@@themilosgrozni237 10 Aug 2023 - The US Army has confirmed sending five different types of missiles to Ukraine for its Patriot systems, including the highly capable PAC-3 MSE.

[@docall18]

Old pics on BBC website, US army using exact same, coloured, labeled INERT launchers . BBC: 'Ukraine war: US Patriot missiles will comfort Kyiv and alarm Moscow'

[@jeffparry2754]

Tires were likely deflated to get under bridges or other overhead obstructions.

[@emporia100]

They sent it back to the original manufacturer for upgrade 😂

[@lagrangewei]

it probably a mock up. China cover their equipment during transport, since it is not covered it is unlikely to be operational equipment. the thing on the side is a stand to stablized the laucher on uneven ground. even as just a mock up, they would probably still need those stablizer to keep it up right when the tube are raise so they can place them in the way they would be when deployed. the 16 missile configuration is the PAC-3 which are 1/3 the size of the 4 missile configuration for PAC-2. and these missiles themselves has a few variant. the mock up doesn't neccessarily had to be for military purpose, there are many build for entertainment purpose such as for static display or movie prop.

[@biggers1356]

Please make more videos like this to teach us Chinese, for some reason it's a lot of fun.

[@keima1110]

超might refers to the truck is super long

[@ddbb1311]

徐州xuzhou is a city not province. 超chao, at the end of the license plate means it is an oversize vehicle.

[@DefensePoliticsAsia]

yeah, i'm not very good with chinese geography~ lol

[@ddbb1311]

@@DefensePoliticsAsia 6:09 粤yue，at the begining of that license plate. That's the short name of Guangdong Provice. 澳ao，which is at the end of the license plate, means Macau. This is a special license plate(always start with Z) registered in Guangdong, with which, you can drive in and out of Macau.

[@DefensePoliticsAsia]

@@ddbb1311 yeah, Yue isnt a word I learnt before. I seen it before; but I never knew that's the cantonese yue~ haha

[@ddbb1311]

@@DefensePoliticsAsia More fun: 粤yue is actually a variance of 越yue，which nowaday specially means VIetnam. Historically, they belong to the same region.😆For this historical reason, back in the conflict in 1979, some slogans used by the VIetnamese was to conquer Guandong/Canton, which they deemed belonging. Some what like Donbass to Russia, only opposite.

[@dontbestupid6664]

Those aren’t mirrors. Those are the supports that keep the launcher from shaking in its upright position. They come down and dig into the ground.

[@franklinpaul1723]

You pronounce those Chinese words expertly not like the Russo -ukrainian ones

[@elmohead]

DPA can speak Chinese, obviously.

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

75% of Singapore's population is Chinese, though I'm not sure of the sub-divisions after that (i.e., who speaks Mandarin, who speaks Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, etc.) I am Cantonese-speaking, but even then, pronouncing Mandarin isn't that hard. I guess Wyatt is Mandarin-speaking.

[@kneelingcatholic]

Nice analysis, Wyatt!!👍👍👍 Ryan MacBeth is trying to do a live analysis right now.... he starts with little more pro-NAFO prejudice

[@kobayashimaruaikiken]

Would they move it on a regular truck with no escort? If we don’t count the scooter…

[@chrisbricky7331]

I want to know why it has flat tires? That usually means it sat for a long time and the tires went flat. There is no combat damage and the paint job is pristine, so why are the tires flat?

[@ZugZugMahogny]

Could be to make it more stable or to have it fit under a tight bridge etc

[@chrisbricky7331]

I thought that too, then looked at the degradation, it didn't look like tires that had air let out, they are at different inflation ratios and the tires look stressed as in they have been flat for awhile. If you have ever visited a place that has old abandoned cars or work trucks, you see this happen. Each tire deflates at different rates and they get dirty based on what they are sitting on or in. But, who knows.

[@bsure4]

why flat tires on patriot ???

[@Vincentdixon4060]

Having your enemies high value weapons for evaluation is nothing new.

[@robertamoko2898]

Is Taiwan next Ukraine of Asia? I love your contents ❤❤❤

[@Paul-dn4wh]

Shared

[@dirremoire]

INERT, but probably it can be converted to fully-functional will a few modifications.

[@ZugZugMahogny]

but what would the gain be from that? if possible

[@dirremoire]

@@ZugZugMahogny Well, it is for training so it has to be almost the same as the real one. Maybe it just has the firing control module removed. Then after the crew is trained. Just swap out the firing control module for the real one and you're good to go.

[@ZugZugMahogny]

@@dirremoire yes but what you there is the launcher, the simplest part of the system

[@dirremoire]

@@ZugZugMahogny Yah, but assuming this is a real INERT launcher and China doesn't have the rest of the system, this is a huge deal. The CIA must be freaking out.

[@Palolskigamers]

Bruh,how did i miss this?

[@DefensePoliticsAsia]

Because KZbin doing youtube things.

[@slyderyder3491]

👍👍

[@robertmiranda2444]

You'd think it'd be covered with a tarp.

[@TurbodanNM]

About to be available on temu at a substantially lower cost

[@timgibson3754]

Awesome

[@tieniwang]

You are right, this patriot was made for Taiwan’s order, but delivered to Ukrainian because Rytheon don’t have enough capacity to supply both sides at the same time.

[@sokarugby22]

The Patriot system was shift from Taiwan.

[@naatdd492]

great analysis

[@david7384]

hey get rain bolt to gao guess

[@our5Tube]

尽管各种迹象，我还是认为不大可能是真的，1）从残酷战场上拖回来被俘武器，太干净太新； 2）如果是真的，它应该是军方的一个宝贝，没有前呼后拥是不可能的； 3）放在外面展示，是俄罗斯的风格； 4）保密应该比炫耀更重要。

[@easalsoeas4565]

Great video 👍 Something like this would be a high value target for backwards engineering and then Mass Production. I am sure Russia would be able to work out a deal with China to do this. There are many other countries that be interested in obtaining copies when China is successful. On the other hand perhaps it just needed an oil change and China had a Mother Day oil change special. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ZugZugMahogny]

yes and no, lets say that Ukraine sold a Taiwanese looking Patriot launcher to russia instead of one of their own. Even then the magic sauce is not in the launcher, its in the other parts of the system

[@easalsoeas4565]

@@ZugZugMahogny yes I am sure the other parts of the system are on another trailer. That trailer is fully loaded.

[@ZugZugMahogny]

@@easalsoeas4565 are you sure or are you hoping?

[@leonardoandresfacello3941]

Los platos no son espejos, son las bases de las patas de apoyo articuladas. No será un nuevo modelo chino?

[@111CREWGO69Z]

Thats a pyramid bud.

[@wallingnaga6563]

Those arm thing isn’t a mirror it’s an stabiliser which is lower to the ground .

[@off6848]

Super meaning heavy haul ?

[@GARDENER42]

It's not a Patriot TEL It's a Missile Round trainer, built by Teledyne.

[@MarineScoutSniper]

Wrong

[@GARDENER42]

@@MarineScoutSniper You certainly are.

[@pepinlebref6091]

In any case, this system is damaged, the condition of the tyres proves it. Rear of this "missile carrier" has a tank that does not exist on Patriot

[@kell7195]

No they probably deflated them to stop it moving on the Truck bed and lower its height for overhead wires

[@phil111ify]

Deflating the tyres was most probably done after loading to help with bridge or cable clearance. Its an oversized load which is why they are using a low loader.

[@JohnTrustworthy]

Isn't this the AAA system that Taiwan sent to the mainland for repairs?

[@NJ-wb1cz]

You do know you showed your home address, right?... avenue/block number. Maybe you're fine with that but I would've thought people covering sensitive topics are more paranoid about these things

[@anotherbacklog]

You would think they would at least cover the thing...

[@DIREWOLFx75]

"dummy created by Chinese" Why would they copy the english "Inert" text? Anything they could use a copy for wouldn't need that. Also, the flat tires suggests at least to some extent that it has been out and about and used for something. No, i would definitely not guess that it is a Chinese copy. They would copy the "real thing", not the training model. "mirror" Uh, that's a "foot", on an extendable leg, which is lowered outwards to the ground when the vehicle is setting up to be ready to launch, as stabilizing supports. Without them, the launch could destabilize, potentially even cause the vehicle to fall over from the force and can definitely cause missiles to go off course during launch. More common on large caliber tube artillery than missile launchers. Also very common on excavators and other heavy work vehicles. "giving up any Patriot systems" That we KNOW of. USA has been scouring the Earth for additional ones, and since they're basically in control of the current Taiwan govt, they could easily have taken some back. Especially a training model. "invalidated for sure" Not unless it was sent to Ukraine for TRAINING purposes. Which it is made for. That is actually 100% plausible. As Ukraine troops would desperately need such training. This might actually be the most plausible explanation.

[@dingodog5677]

Love how the Chinese are just carrying it around on the back of a private truck. They don’t give a shot. Not even a tarp t9 cover it.

[@edwindelacruz-1005]

It is just a mockup launcher albeit a good one

[@DS87]

粵 is not au. Is Yue. 😂 粵 is registration for 广州， but I digress.

[@DefensePoliticsAsia]

my bad~ lol

[@DS87]

@@DefensePoliticsAsia no worries 😁 but interesting nevertheless how a ROC system is in the PRC

[@DS87]

超 could mean 超大型 for the trailer size.

[@tonyp2865]

Even Israel is getting rid of Patriot junk.

[@hloc]

While I'm unable to say is this a real or fake Patriot Missile launcher... One need to ask why the Chinese didn't simply cover up the launcher and transport the item at night under escorts... If indeed China got itself one from the Russian... Showing off like this basically allowed the other side to know you have their stuffs... And counter what you learn...

[@icetea8946]

Im seeing twitter saying its Korean , Taiwanese, Japanese ? Im confused af now

[@ZugZugMahogny]

NO! its ukraine that redesigned the ones they have to look taiwanese and then moved it from no less then 50km behind front lines, across the line of contact to russia that gave it to china

[@icetea8946]

@@ZugZugMahogny nah, it was confirmed in the same twitter post to be a mock up for military drills for the chinese army.