Taking a Chance On eBay's Cheapest RTX 3070...

[@mickaka]

Had a lot of ex-mining cards and the most consistent issue is dry thermal paste and pads, high temperature environments and poor maintenance.

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

Man i'm glad I got my 1080ti before the mining craze

[@progste]

@Strannix it's not really being run 24/7 but the high temperatures tat can ruin them, especially certain types of memory chips.

[@gabrielgarcia9822]

Cards from miners that know whT they're doing are always better, because they were undervolted

[@jonirenicus9407]

@@Grandmaster-Kush you talking about 5 years ago, or recently?

[@Orcawhale1]

Graphics cards don't need "maintenace". The whole stick about changing thermal paste and paste is a total waste. Infact i will actively avoid any card, that has this done because most of you can't match the tolererances from the factory...

[@zWORMzGaming]

Great finding! Prices are finally getting back to where they should be, that 3070 actually looks really good btw! I have to comment, that 69C temperature after the cleaning, like the avg in cyberbug, is also very nice indeed. 😉

[@OnlyCitrus]

Oi Crispy

[@zWORMzGaming]

@@OnlyCitrus oi gowtham!

[@danielrock04]

Eu estava me perguntando se vcs acompanhavam um o trabalho do outro, fico feliz de saber sim!

[@LSK2K]

@@zWORMzGaming It's nice seeing you here

[@lukasgroot]

Very nais

[@kiri101]

Repasting my old GPU did wonders but replacing the thermal pads had almost as much impact - it turns out my VRMs were overheating and repadded I saw much better VRM thermals and the card held its frequency under load.

[@Ray-uc8ij]

Should definitely change thermal pads every time you open your GPU. Thermal pads get pretty roughed up when the cooler is taken away from the memory.

[@MetaDude]

@@Ray-uc8ij btw how much does a thermal pads cost? And are they as easy as replacing thermal paste?

[@Ray-uc8ij]

@@MetaDude depends on the thickness and quality. And you should always get quality pads. Don't want mess around with cheap stuff because you don't want the job of opening and closing the cooler just because crappy pads either don't keep the card cool or they lose their thermal conductance too quickly.

[@TigerChamp99]

RandomGaminginHD Episode VI - Return of the RTX 3070

[@cmdrclassified]

For Cyberpunk, there's a mod on Nexus Mods that replaces DLSS with AMD's new FSR 2.0. Joker Productions did a video on it a couple of days ago.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

I’ll take a look :)

I dont think that's necessary for people who can already use dlss.

[@HoloScope]

@ Nice to know though. RGHD does videos on AMD cards as well

[@hariskhan01]

@ It might help for older cards from GTX 1080Ti to RX 580, also maybe the RX 6500XT can run Cyberpunk better with FSR 2?

[@mastadope397]

@ FSR 2.0 is giving better performance than DLSS by the way.

[@carvedfromlife8949]

I've bought a few ex-mining cards in the past. Same here I changed thermal paste and pads before I even used them and luckily they worked just fine. But it's always a risk buying used cards regardless if they were mined or not. You never know how the previous owner treated the card.

[@Megalomaniakaal]

As Actually Hardcore Overclocking said, the main risk with ETH mining is to the memory, and particularly it's HBM and to somewhat lesser degree gddrx variants of memory that tend to be problems. So normal gddr variants are not as likely to be a problem.

[@robertt9342]

It really matters whether they are properly cooled and not overvolted. If the card has bad cooling then it will effect its lifespan. If they overvolt any thing, then that will shorten its lifespan. Often the miners will undervolt the gpu, but I do not know how then handle the memory. As for repasting and pads, a lot of that depends on if they have cooked the paste and pads. I had recently purchased a “mining” card and the thermals are all within spec, there shouldn’t be the need to immediately repaste the gpu or change out the pads.

[@amarfikry]

If only there was a CPO(Certified Pre Owned) program for used mining GPU’s where they would be tested for thermals, stability etc. This would make second hand buying much more appealing for mining cards.

[@tenshiabse]

OMG I have this exact same card and: 1- Is waaaaaay bigger than it looks, is an aircraft carrier. 2 - 3070 is an absolute beast. 3 - the card is very cool and quiet. 4 - it look really good. 5 - the RGB in this card is kinda meh, unless is mounted vertically. is the first Palit card i woned, but I'm impressed with it, so I'd consider them the next time.

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

I had a Palit in the past and it was also fine.

[@yourhandlehere1]

I have a PNY 3080 and the rgb is also on bottom when mounted normally. I cut an acrylic mirror to fit under the card, all the way across. It's at a 45 degree angle so the bottom of the card shows forward. I can also tell at a glance if the fans are spinning or not. It fits from the back of the card to the "floor" of my case and hides all the wiring at the bottom too.

[@PCAgentSi]

I usually buy Palit if I am going water. Reference board, cheaper then the rest and usually some custom bioses are available for overclock.

[@MRWhiskers6969]

I always enjoy your content, your voice is very relaxing and you always find some of the best deals or put together a rig that most people would do on a budget. Keep up the amazing work! I look forward to your next video.

[@fanofentropy2280]

On a used mining card, I also like to flash back to stock v-bios or at least verify the card isn't running custom mining bios.

[@exxor9108]

You might want to do a re-application of thermal paste as well, after replacing the thermal pads. Make sure you get your money's worth out of that 3070.

[@Zebsy]

Confused, I thought he did change the thermal paste?

[@exxor9108]

@@Zebsy The thermal pads on the memory chips also needed replacing as well. Some were chipped apart.

[@christianrobloxserver7282]

I've bought a lot of former mining cards. aside from the obvious lack of care miners put towards their cards, some simple cleaning and thermal paste replacement has taught me mining on a card (even if its a lot) doesn't really effect the card itself that much, if at all. As long as you know you're buying a card that's in decent shape and hasn't been absolutely crapped on (which can definitely happen with some careless sellers), there really shouldn't be performance issues. As always, do your research on sellers and the cards you want. Know what you're buying and thing should be gold

[@peari8676]

Does life span get affected?

[@tracerghost00]

That 3070 was in a mining rig for sure. The paste being dried out so early is an indication that the gpu had been full computing in a hot area with no proper cool air to hit it. The thermal pads will keep their somewhat wet texture but the thermal paste is usually the first to go. I bought a 6800xt a few days ago and had the same issue and the person I got it from was a miner and he was a friend of a friend. I knew he wasn't overclocking the card and undervolting it instead but the paste was still dried up.

[@JKirkInTexas]

Nice to see some performance metrics on a RTX 3070 with some realistic CPU and RAM. I personally have a RTX 3070 and a 5800x and 32GB of ram. Seeing these framerates in games helps me know that I am getting pretty normal performance on my RTX 3070. Thank you sir.

[@charredolive]

Ayee identical setup

[@JKirkInTexas]

@@charredolive Nice!

[@ghaviorizky3961]

well even on my 5600x + 32GB of ram it still does pretty good in most game i play (avg 95%-100% gpu utilization),except maybe beamng drive which is cpu bound

[@JKirkInTexas]

@@ghaviorizky3961 I know the 5600x is most of the big gaming performance of the Ryzen 5000 series.

[@candidosilva7755]

That decoloration on the gpu may indicate gpu degradation but as long as it works fine no problem.

[@bob23301]

Yeap, that discoloration is caused by prolonged thermal damage, so it's a flip of the coin if or when it dies.....i most certainly woukd not by any second-hand gpu at this time.

[@PanPrezeso]

@@bob23301 yeah, its a gamble, it may work for 2-3 months or 2-3 years, you can never be 100% sure

[@AlexsAnimals]

When the card was apart, it appeared there was some discoloring around the die on the chip. That means it got very hot and it is lucky that that card still works without a problem. It makes me worried about the stability in the future. Make sure to take extra care to keep this one cool.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I will do, plan to keep this one :)

[@jaykoerner]

You can't really overheat a modern graphics card, nivida locked the bios and the stock one has limits for temp, voltage, clock, and current draw, I doubt that is a real issue or concern

[@MistyKathrine]

@@jaykoerner Yeah most of them start throttling at 80 if not sooner and they are usually safe up to around 100. Like, these days, the only compenent I have serious issues cooling in my PC is my CPU and that's only because 12th gen runs so freaking hot.

[@dakoderii4221]

@@jaykoerner It was probably Jay and his heat gun.

[@jaykoerner]

@@MistyKathrine it's not like the graphics cards easy to cool, but you're not struggling to do it, since they have coolers from the factory so it's not really your problem, things still use insane amounts of power just like your CPU so the coolers are massive

[@Porsche996TT]

I'm really happy for you to get another 3070 after the one you gave away, you're a true friend. I'm saving for a 3070 as well instead of my 1650

[@AlexRVX8]

Honestly, I found a good bargain on a 2070 for 290€, but the deal was local. My guess is that buying cheap locally makes it a little bit more reliable for testing and refund processes

[@NXV_A]

I recently bought the exact same card in auction and also used the same promotion getting the card for 343 including p&p instead of 370 + 10. I have also had an issue with the card ramping up its fans to 4000 rpm in some cases.

[@milosmarinkovic1572]

Great review as always, your videos really help to better understand price and performance of gpu ;)

[@camotech1314]

I got a Gigabyte 3070 Vision OC for £350 Inc postage, pretty good deal if you ask me. The card was used for machine learning in a air-conditioned room and works fine if a little hot so I might also replace the thermal paste.

[@michaeltoye6148]

I like seeing the 2042 benchmarks because I play that game a lot, but completely understand that benchmarks take a lot of effort to complete, great video as always

[@Leon_hm]

what handsome gentleman that glowup is what we all need growing up

[@ControllerSupported]

Lol, you had a very similar experience to me. Right before the price drop, I had bought a used RX 6600 XT for $380, but then the next week the price drop happened, the 6600 xt went down to $329 brand new, so I bought an RX 6750 xt brand new for 479. Learning alot on the first build. Anyway, good video, mate!

[@MistyKathrine]

Ex-mining cards are usually fine but often you have to replace the thermal paste and pads, which isn't usually too expensive, and if you're an enthusiast, you probably have that stuff on hand anyway. Usually after repasting and padding them, they are usually just fine.

[@sensamg4345]

Bought the same GPU couple of days after Nvidia released them (lucky). I use it only for gaming in 1440p. Paired with a Ryzen 7 is boosting up to 1975mhz. Very happy with it and very good video.

[@Vertical_casey]

Hello I’m here again 👋 and just to say that card looks amazing 🤩 I’d trade you a GT640 2GB GDDR3

[@minty-beats]

Why would he trade you a 3070 for a shitty old gt card

[@RevantuZ]

Would be nice to see FPS counters compared to some of the most common other cards you've already bench-marked in the same games, just for reference.

[@TheSpotify95]

Thanks for the review. Things like this really make me want to build a nice, brand new PC (in an older style case, allowing for a DVD drive and multiple hard drives) with a decent CPU and GPU combo, only trouble is that I don't have the space or the money to do so. And anyways, even mining cards should be OK if they are checked, cleaned, and new thermal paste/pads installed.

[@Nopa_Kofi]

In Forza Horizon 5 the difference between Ultra and Extreme is actually the biggest compared to any other settings or preset - altho specifically in "Environmental Geometry Quality" I noticed that any other setting doesn't seem to impact the visual quality or make as much difference nearly as much as that one

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

Indeed. And it always bothers me when reviewers skip the extreme preset. They'll go on and on about how they finally got a chance to obtain an RTX 3090 Ti, but when time comes to test Forza... they settle for ultra and just skip Extreme. Like bro, are you dumb? Hopefully they will see your comment and finally stop this trend.

[@Nopa_Kofi]

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior honestly kinda same but i guess it makes sense that they make that assumption since in most games difference is small between highest presets

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

@@Nopa_Kofi I agree that the difference is small and probably 99% won't even notice the difference between ultra and extreme. But on the other hand, who buys a whole 3080 or 3090 just to lower settings while gaming? If a reviewer is going to showcase an elite super high end GPU, the he must show what kind of performance that an owner of this gpu can expect when you play a game at the absolute max settings. If i'm going to play a game just to play at high instead of max, I'd just save my money and get a 3070 or 3060 instead.

[@Orvis25]

great find man! can you do a final life recap of the 7870? it got we new drivers randomly from and after many years of no support. I'd love to see this things final send off. cheers for all the videos !

[@bipbop3121]

You can't find them enough cheaper. They have given up at least 3/4 of their life and unless it's a steal the gamble isn't worth it. Hard pass on helping a miner recoup the price hike and supply issues they directly participated in.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

Yeah i agree the price i pay better reflect the risk i'm taking otherwise pass, sadly people will lie and say a gpu was not mined on.

[@DeadwoodJawn]

Hard agree

[@honk5468]

you can tell you dont know shit about mining

[@Elinzar]

As Bullzoid for Actually Hardcore Overclocking suggested, be really careful when replacing thermal pads, not all thermal pads will work with your gpu and you might risk breaking the gpu completely if you choose a pad that is too tick and or too hard, as you might leave the gpu cold plate just hovering on top of the gpu die making it ofc overheat and probably die instantly, you even might be tempted to tighten the cooler even more so it reaches the die but in the process you might just break the PCB all together or the solder balls in the gpu die, whatever gives in first If your gpu have all the thermal pads intact, even if they are a bit dusty is better to keep them rather than risk it If you absolutely have to replace them do your research and see if anybody had replaced the pads for your gpu model, ask what brand they used and what thickness or anything that outright ensures you are getting the proper pads for your gpu

[@m8x425]

I accidently replaced pads with ones that were a little bit too thick..... this caused the GPU die to not make proper contact with the heatsink..... which caused the system to crash right away. I ended up using a thinner pad. However, I've bought quite a few used GPU and motherboards so I buy 300mm2 sheets of .5mm, 1mm, and 1.5mm thick pads.

[@alinzelnan]

You can also try contacting the manufacturer, I did the same for my old ASUS GTX 760 and although it took more than a week they sent me the exact specifications of the thermal pads including a technical image with the correct placement.

[@Silenthorror13]

Modern gpus won't die because of bad contact, they throttle or shut off.

[@Elinzar]

@@Silenthorror13 yep they most likely will shut off but you still risking degrading the silicon, and the risk of it completely dying is still there

[@Elinzar]

@@alinzelnan thats actually really cool from Asus, i will take that in mind

[@kieran8643]

Definitely not the first time the Founders cards have been restocked since a year ago. They have had random drops every couple of weeks since release in the UK. People have been snatching them up with the help of various Discord groups etc including several friends/family I've personally assisted over that time period.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I think I just kept missing them 😂

[@kieran8643]

@@RandomGaminginHD it's not easy! I've become the de facto official getter of RRP cards among my family and friend group so got it down lol.

[@suleimanabutaha7935]

My experience with mining cards were a hit and miss. Depends on your luck. Rx470 4gb, working perfectly. Rx 580 8gb works but turns off as soon as start any game. I serviced both cards, changed thermal paste and pads.

[@EmergencyChannel]

Your RX580 might have had a mining bios and needed to be flashed to a normal bios.

[@isaac4048]

I own TWO 1063 "palit dual" ex-mining cards, both are running perfectly. Even fans are OK.

[@suleimanabutaha7935]

@@EmergencyChannel will check that out. Don't know how to flash bios for a graphics card. Will do some research

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

@@isaac4048 That's cool but if it was mined with for a duration i really wouldn't count on it running for more than a few years unless you change the thermal pads and reapply paste also have some fans ready for when 1 goes out change all the other once at the same time.

[@isaac4048]

@@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx fans are OK as i mentioned. Not noisy, not squeaky, just spinning. Pads are OK too, watery. The mining guy paid attention to his hardware, he said me tht he sold like 65 same cards and there was any returns or complaints. Btw it was 2017, and the price was 6000rubles, or 90 dollars. Good times.

[@IgorTFerreira]

Nice video! Don't forget to replace the thermal pads, 3070 doesn't have memory temperature sensor, you should have hot memory temp as you break the thermal pads when remove the heatsink... thx for sharing!!

[@anthonyc417]

If you decide to replace the thermal pads make sure they are the right thickness and hardness. That is something a lot of people look over hardness is super important. If too hard they can permenantly damage the solder balls or even a pads on the memory, substrate and/or PCB. Be careful and make sure they are proper before tightening down the cooler folks.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

Don't pads get squised and spread as you tighten the cooler?

[@anthonyc417]

@@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx Sometimes but it is a risk you are taking with something that cost between $400-$2000 why risk it with hard pads. Just find the soft gray ones in the correct size and it should be fine but it is a risk.

[@CSHracer]

had an older 1080ti I bought used that ran quite hot. New paste dropped temps well over 10 degrees and fan speed dropped like 50%. Don't be afraid to repaste your old GPU!

[@netsudro]

Great price! The miner did not know how to keep the card safe. An RTX 3070 undervolted at 45% and with the fans at 70% should not get over 55C when mining. He should always check the temperatures and change the paste. Also, I would remove the metal part over the fans to give them more room.

[@silenthills282]

45% of what?

[@netsudro]

@@silenthills282 In Afterburner set the power limit to 45%. I misspoke.

[@bgtubber]

You can remove the grill on the fans. This should reduce the noise even more. I did this on my Palit RTX 3090.

[@m8x425]

Lately I've heard that used 3090's that have been mined with are a poor investment because mining cooks the VRAM. Ethereum mining is memory intensive, and with the VRAM being double-sided on the 3090, those cards aren't long for this world. I'd also avoid 3080's as well because GDDR6x runs hot.

[@johntrevy1]

I wouldn't trust any card that has been down the crypto mines.

[@PanPrezeso]

3070ti too, if you get a reallyyyy good deal just stick to 3070 and lower

[@m8x425]

@@PanPrezeso Yes.... for sure. The only upside the 3080ti, 3080 12gb, and 3070ti have is they were released later..... but otherwise.... nah!

[@nexus_tech]

That's a bargain! 👌 I have Palit's 3060Ti, would be interesting to see how much of a difference there is 🙂

[@Sajeel786]

I really don't understand the issue or the reason for a video like this and Specially disclaimers like ohh be careful when buying a mining card etc etc. People simply fail to understand the fact that miners see these cards as assets, something to be sold at a later date when it's no longer profitable for them and because of that they take very good care of these cards. As an ex-miner I can tell you keeping a card clean and running efficiently is top priority as it usually yields better hash overall which in turns results in more profits. The arguments like Ohh they don't take care or Ohh the card lifespan is lower is just stupid. ANY card you buy used, the first thing you should ALWAYS do is replace thermal paste and maybe pads aswell. ALWAYS. Because yes miners will repaste cards but since they are used 24hs, paste dries up quickly so they might not repaste it before sale. But I can tell you from experience, buying a used card from a gamer is a lot more dangerous because they want to save money so they will never repaste (maybe 1% of gamers will). Gamers overclock which regrades gpu life whereas miners always always undervolt. I can go on and on but you get the point. Btw I had my personal 3090 die recently and it was never ever used for mining. So buying a used card always carry a risk but if I had a choice, I would buy from used card at a discount from an experienced miner and would always avoid gamers card given a choice. Just my opinion.

[@50shadesofbeige88]

I like the design of that card. The RGB os on point.

[@lance9421]

Bought a RX570 off of Ebay and the BIOS had been flashed. I was able to find the right one and restore it back to normal and I have been using it for about 2 years.

[@nosferatu0205]

I love how well made your videos are. I have been a long term fan and will continue to be so. Much love man.

[@b0ntr4g3r3]

Thankyou for another honest review of a product many of us are contemplating ourselves.

[@michaelthompson9798]

The RTX3000 series seems to be a GPU line that many want. The 4000 series are piquing some gamers interests, but many are concerned with the high power draw and heat coming with the additional performance promised 🥵. The 3000 series offers vg performance and thermals which many gamers are happy with. Enjoy the 3070 my friend and keep those wonderful videos coming 🥰😇👍.

[@Ray13star]

Great info for those buying a mining card. I would have done the same (if I had the $$$). It seems to me that this miner was maximizing the 3070's speed with added power draw along with high fan speed to optimize the hash rate, due to having a limited amount of these cards in tandem. Mo' money. Only those with 25+ mining cards in tandem undervolt them along with running them at sub speed and fan speed.

[@gonzo3915]

I have an MSI 3070, it has been a great card and will suffice until the 50 series hits.

[@wiezel16204]

mining gpus can be decent if the miner indeed did not roast it in a hot invironment. note 3070s tempt to get hot so on some cards you got to tweak the fan curves. had to do it with my new one from shelf even. microfiber is static and you will not touch your gpu with these.

[@adriankoch964]

Make sure to replace the thermal pads for VRAM and VRMs, make sure to get the right height ones for your specific model so the mounting pressure is correct. Mining cards stress their VRAM a lot and thermal cycles (like from spiky use like gaming) is the #1 cause of electronic component wear (if not overclocking/volting), so make sure that you don't add to the stress by having old crusty pads on the VRAM. Also the driver will probably only care about the GPU chips temperature, not the VRAM.

[@vMaxHeadroom]

For those on tighter budgets, the 3060Ti and 3070 are good buys if at MSRP or used. I think the 40 series is going to be well over priced with a high power draw, and if you are playing at 1080p high refresh or 1440p then the 30 series (even the 6700/6800 will be more than enough especially with DLSS and FSR 2.0....Under volt a tiny bit and enjoy a few years of stellar performance.

[@samghost13]

You have to replace both pads and paste. With that hot GDDR 6X it is important to change the pads also.

[@mrbasfed1948]

It has GDDR6 without the X. The X starts with 3070 Ti

[@dan_k1992]

This is down to Palit tbf, i had bad experiences with this provider from 1050, 1060 and 2070 too... My 2070 im currently using ramps up almost instantly. However i had great results with undervolting. Managed to achieve a stable 65-67 celsius with the card running at 1800mhz stable

[@Edd211]

Gainward is a computer hardware company which has produced video cards since 1984. Taiwan-based TNC Industrial sold the company to Palit Microsystems in 2005, acquiring the Gainward brand and branch Gainward Europe GmbH for $1 million.

[@GrimnirLaguz28]

I sometimes hate living in Latvia. Here the GPUs are still stupidly expensive. Like a 3070, for example, still costs ~800Eur in retail. Way cheaper than the 1300-1500 it was before, but still pretty insane. Good video as always, hope the prices go even lower, so we can get even more videos out of you!

[@RMZBTW]

Hey man, you are my favourite tech youtuber currently and i just wanted to say that my cousin just gave me his pc the other day since he was no longer using it. And it had an 8gb rx 570

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Awesome :) (and thank you) enjoy your new Pc!

[@cptwhite]

For general PCB cleanup I can highly recommend a set of detailing brushes, these can be purchased off Amazon for less than £10 a set. Perfect for cleaning all the nooks on a PCB without damaging anything. Also great for cleaning fan blades, it'll get 98% of the dust off within 30 seconds, then you can just go around with some cotton buds dips in isopropyl alcohol, to get the stubborn dust and dried patches of thermal paste off fully. Also keep a plastic play doh tool to hand as well, can come in useful for dislodging the dried paste around the contact pins that surround the GPU die.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

I use one of my sisters soft make up brushes. It works fantastic for dust!

[@CaptainScorpio24]

@@RandomGaminginHD painting brush does same 🙂

[@sdewey4152]

You should always replace the thermal pads on these modern GPUs they tend to come with extremely poor pads from their respective vendors.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I will do soon :)

[@chartabona]

It's not just used GPU's that have thermal issues. I bought a brand new 3080 FE, and it was roasting right out of the gate. When I took it apart one of the thermal pads was crooked, so two of the memory modules only had about 50% coverage, and of course it disintegrated when I tried to adjust it. The fact of the matter is that a decent number of these cards weren't built very well.

[@RSCOZZY]

Brave man! I'm not gambling that money on a used RTX anytime soon.

[@DMW2000]

Happy days, mate. Glad you're enjoying the card and that all it took was a repaste!

[@nicane-9966]

The 12400 keeps impressing. Good chip. I hope u can get a grab on a 3080/6800xt to see how it goes. For the gpu i wouldnt try getting a minning card, way too many risks

[@HughPlaysGames]

I hold the opposite true, a bad card subjected to a mining load is more likely to have blown up and be useless. If it's surived 24/7 operation for months, it's a good card. I've had a few ex-mining cards and they've all been solid.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

Buildzoid at Actually Hardcore Overclocking had a good video about which mining cards to buy and which to stay away from. Short version is stay away from RTX 3090 and Radeon VII. Other Mining cards should be ok but might have a mining BIOS and then you need to flash the BIOS to get the best performance in games and the fans might die.

[@philow4021]

I just bought a 3090 ultra ftw3 at 800€ I just added the card on the evga website is it a good bargain or not the warranty of the card ends in 2024

[@MidlandsbusEnthusiast]

I recently got this exact gpu, coming from the gigabyte 2060 super. I’m really enjoying the added horsepower and I really like the cooler on this card.

[@imeldomarcos4126]

No offense, it is always 100 pct recommended to replace pads. The pads they give you is bad, you wont be able to see mem temps for 3070 ram and below, but it does affect the temps. I have many 3070s and i am waiting for the warranty to end before changing the pads and paste.

[@yourlocaldavid6656]

Dude noo u are the one who bought it!!! I had it in my basket for ages wondering if i should buy it! Glad you got it though :)) bought a 3080 instead for £515 inc postage (you might have seen it since it was listed as parts as an ex mining card)

[@yourlocaldavid6656]

It was a ZOTAC RTX 3080 Trinity OC 10gb, the description was very interesting to read.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Ah good choice though, hope the 3080 serves you well

[@yourlocaldavid6656]

@@RandomGaminginHD arrives on monday so i hope it is functional :)

[@giedmich]

3:26 interesting the 30xx cards is the current gen, not some old ancient card, but still the thermal compound is totally dried up. Manufacturers should really come up with better solution, because current situation is not acceptable.

[@ArcadiaP]

There is no real solution. You should be replacing your thermal paste every 1.5 years to 2 years unless the device doesn't have thermals to really worry about. Of all the products, I don't any of them have actual longevity to them, be it liquid metal, thermal epoxy or thermal paste. Thermal pads, maybe? I doubt it though.

[@AscendedZombie]

432 Us Dollars wow what a great deal for a 3070. Nice find man. Thanks for the video!

[@m0dD3rLP]

In reference to the fans shooting to 100%, that can occur when not enough of the GPU die has contact with the cooler. As you suspected it was the thermal paste being ruined from the mining. I bring this up because when I bought my 2080Ti brand new in box, every game would override any settings in MSI Afterburner and shoot all 3 fans to 100% speed while dropping clock speeds. I finally got fed up with it and decided to re-paste my at the time new 2080Ti! As it turns out, nearly 40% of the die (a huge die, ~750mm2) had no thermal paste at all. I got extremely lucky that none of the die ended up dying and I was able to re-paste with MX-4 and it has been fantastic ever since. After doing some research I found that while the reported GPU core temperature may be under throttling limits (my 2080Ti was reporting 78-79C) the hot spot may be so much higher that the GPU BIOS actually takes control of the fans to give it the best chance to not burn anything. My GPU hot spot was hitting 110-111C according to HWiNFO64 before I re-pasted it.

[@ocelot20]

Ahh such a legend. Remembering seeing this video months ago. I bought the exact same GPU from eBay other day for £320. When playing anything it would right away go to 80c and the fans would sound like a hoover. Tried everything from reinstalling display drivers. Updating GPU bios. Even informing the seller I would be returning it. Then I remembered this video. Opened it up and the lack of thermal paste. Just bits of flakes. Putting new paste on it and at 100% load it now goes to a max 72c with still fairly audible fans but noting off putting.

[@anonymouslime2644]

I have a RTX 3060 in my PC, and for Battlefield 1 and V, DX12 mode always runs worse, I get horrible frame time and stutters that smooth out after ~10m, whereas DX11 is just flawless for me

[@brando3342]

Hey man. That’s a very cheap 3070! I was wondering if you might be able to get a Zotac 3070 ti Trinity OC edition and test that card out? It’s the cheapest one right now ($799 cad new), but there have been complaints with it. Would be a neat card to test out.

[@i3l4ckskillzz79]

The 3070 ti is around 10% faster.

[@brando3342]

@@i3l4ckskillzz79 Yeah, that’s actually not the complaints that come up with that specific card.

[@BlazePas]

Grabbed a 3070 ASUS tuf for $510…was an ex mining card…benched and stressed with 3d mark…bench results were ~100 points under average, while temps were lower than the averages I found…turned out the miner underclocked the card and a simple tweak with ASUS utility brought the clocks in normal range…easy fix…imma check thermal paste after seeing this vid…thanks for the tip.

[@ray4ix]

Have been mining 2 years with gigabate oc gaming, have no issues with thermals, anyway 3070 is kinda the best 1440p card out there.

[@guily6669]

From the state of that thermal paste no matter how crappy it is really look like it's been mining from the release date to now that looks pretty bad... On my Strix RX480 from quite a few years ago (think I bought it on the release year for the Asus Strix release version, I waited like 3 months for the store to got it), I changed thermal paste only like 2 years ago to Kryonaut and I actually havent seen a big improvement and I have recently already changed it to MX-5 which is about the same crap again and didn't need to as off course, but I wanted to fully clean the whole PCB and oiled it with WD40 so I removed the old thermal paste... Anyway the Strix RX480 cooler is poorly designed and I wanted to fix it but don't know how, it's basically direct touch, 5 pipes, only 2 make full contact, the 3rd only catch a small corner and the other 2 are almost doing nothing since there's always gaps between the copper pipes and relying on heat transfer from one pipe to the other barely touching is not so good. Strix RX580 is pretty much fixed and so much cooler while the cooler it self isn't much better but at least has a plate that spreads the heat for all pipes. I'm thinking to buy a 0.01mm pure copper foil sheet but I'm thinking it will probably only make it worse since it would require Thermal paste from die to coper sheet and more thermal paste from copper sheet to cooler and then 0.01 sheet probably doesn't have enough material to make good heat transfer to get across the 5 pipes and for last those cheap Made in China sheets will probably be all over the place in thickness. I surely can go with something thick, but then that would prevent the other parts of the cooler from cooling VRM's and other stuff as they wouldn't contact any good the thermal pads and going with very thick thermal pads aren't much good either 😕 ps: Don't really know wtf to do and buying a whole new cooler isn't a option cause I wouldn't waste a single cent on this old GPU but I really wanted to just prevent thermal throttling without having to go with high fan speed which is no go 4 me, I only go up to around 60% max fan speed, above that = HELL NO.

[@wyatt1019]

Love the video, however I have a suggestion to benchmark, that being no mans sky. For my current card, a gtx 960 2gb it struggles for 30fps at low and I am curious as to what it could be on a better rig

[@olegraf8594]

Bought the same card, for 400€, at 80C with fans @ 100%. Had to also change the thermal paste, after that everything is good. Temps (under synthetic load) are now around 70C with the fans at 30%.

[@paulb4uk]

I bought one of the ex mining rx580.s after you did a video on an an xfx card a number of years ago i believe it was the same seller and it is still working pefectly a good few years on in my sisters sons pc .

[@Shwadeybabe]

Just paid $610 US for a *new* MSI 3070 Gaming Z. Best purchase I've made for my system in awhile! Edit: Those temps are still pretty high. I don't know if it's cooler design but at 50% fan speed my card sits at 55C. I'm curious what it will score in 3DMark Time Spy. I'm able to get 15,000+pts for graphics score. Stock clocks around 14,000pts. Definitely something interesting to look into.

[@chrisfinds7745]

I paided £440 for a secondhand asus tuf gaming oc 3070 about a month ago on uk ebay.checked asus's website and it was just under a year old so still 2 years warranty left.card has been running great no problems.only thing I've had to do was update it to enable resizable bar.

[@dienand_gaming]

I love the coolers on these Palit cards. Really cool looking.

[@ggThys]

Maybe make a video about repasting and replacing the thermal pads of the 3060ti FE to see if there's any difference in T?

[@Lovely_Toast]

I got myself a msi gaming x 6600xt off ebay few weeks ago and it's running perfect. Never goes above 70c. I'm getting 130fps plus in warzone. Pubg. Sandstorm. I've paired it with a 12100.

[@Nintenboy01]

a constant mining load while undervolted or power-limited should be less damaging over time than frequent thermal cycling from gaming

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

100% but you never know not all people mine properly some use smaller situps and would rather keep the clocks at near stock

[@Silo1195]

Got myself a 3070 ASUS TUF gaming for around the same price. Also ex-mining card. Still has 2 years of warranty. No issues with mine, it plays great. Would change the paste, but I think it voids the warranty.

[@DJRuno1]

Would it be possible for you to get hold of a radeon VII? I would love to see a comparison to the 1080 ti after all the updates they both recieved and also comparing it to nvidias 3000/radeon 6000 series

[@RandomGaminginHD]

I’d love to get a Radeon VII

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

If buildzoid's latest video about examining cards are any indication... Good luck. Ex-mining radeon vii cards fail often. Nobody yet has been able to successfully revive them; most of the time only good for harvesting components from because the vrm's are fine. And even then, it's slower than a 1080ti with current drivers. So for gaming, unless you CAN get one cheaper than the big Pascal, you're better off with the 1080ti.

[@nicane-9966]

The radeon vii was an interesting card specially gor workstation considering its price... However remember it was a tie against 2080 so idt 1080ti is the best match up anyway...

[@LucianoSilva-oficial]

I got one Asus 3070 mining among others on my mining rig, 3070 is cold and efficient. Taking care about the thermal pads and the cooler noise grants you'll have no problems. I don't recommend getting a GDDR6X mining card like 3080 and 3090 because of memory temperatures.

[@davidnewman9244]

found your channel good to get advice from a brit .ive subscribed

[@mikek92]

Fans loud ? Try running 3 GTX 470s in SLI w/a triple monitor setup. Toasty too !

[@time4manmode945]

I finally got a gpu brand new from Amazon $30 below msrp and with that money I bought a 4 year warranty, I picked up the Radeon rx 6600 for $300, my pc consist of a ryzen 5 3600 and 32gb 2pk16 3200mph ddr4 ram Corsair vengeance

[@alexandrumihailescu2252]

Just purchased a palit 3060ti for £300 this week. More happy than ever with it. Upgraded from a 970.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

What a bargain! And a decent upgrade too

[@alexandrumihailescu2252]

@@RandomGaminginHD indeed! I checked thermals and everything and currently idling at under 40 Celsius in a 4000D airflow case without any issues. Low prices make you a bit skeptical but this was worth it!

[@therealcarbine15]

Don't mess with the stock thermal pads, just clean and reuse. Replacement pads are almost always wrong thickness or stiffness and will break your board.

[@keithlowe5512]

Bought an old GTX 1070 from a miner for a good price years ago, very solid purchase.

[@EpicDeW77]

think you should check ut CEX at the moment, you can get3090 FE for under 1000, its mad, im sure people would like to see if these cards are actually alright or if they have been completely destroyed!

[@Bultizar]

Great find, but dude, the fact you left those pads in there, your vram temps are probably skyrocketing....

[@obi1dipscobi547]

please you include 2042 back into the benchmarks :) Sorry, its just because I'm curious as to how much they've improved the performance, especially for the lower end cards.

[@Zegery]

Hey you should try Jawa, used components there are usually really good condition for great prices

[@RetroGamingX1]

For testing purposes I recommend the game GTA 3 Def. Ed. night footage all maxed, saludos.