Taking Down A New eBay SCAM!

[@theaccount5634]

Scammer: Tries to make extra money off of old Terasclae GPUs Budget Builds: I'm about to (Politely) ruin this whole mans career.

[@nexenojustice552]

The British way.

[@andrive]

Exellent

[@ventrue6516]

Won't happen sadly..

[@BBHexKey]

Now we need to get the fake 1050s off eBay.

[@chronic_hemphog]

@@BBHexKey yeah i fucken hate the amount of fake 1050's you see, most of em are just GTS450's with the bios modified

[@ondrejbrandejsky5592]

i dont think any computer on our planet runs GTA IV at the claimed fps...

[@MV60]

I bought gta 4 when it first came out, ran horribly on my at the time, core 2 duo + 512mb 4850 (I think, can't recall 100% there), I stopped playing it right around where you get the first girl friend. I then decided to give it another go a couple of months ago on my now 7700 + 6gb 1060, ran acceptably. Had to wait over 10 years to finally play this thing.

[@MasteryOff]

Quad SLI RTX 2080 Ti maybe at 800x600

[@yotoprules9361]

mine does in certain areas, in others its close to 60... and I have a GTX 1080.

[@mruczyslaw50]

You have to use commandline to even make it run normally on today's hardware, on more than 2GB VRAM GPU it glitches out graphics options so you can't change anything because it thinks your video memory is always overloaded. I mean, at least I had this issue in both tested GPUs - Radeon RX 480 4GB and Geforce GTX 1080 8GB

[@yotoprules9361]

@@mruczyslaw50 I have the some problem, I think it's also a problem since Windows 8 and higher. But once you get it working its not too bad, except its probably the least consistent performance I've seen in any game ever and it barely touches my gtx 1080.i could easily get 200fos maxed out if it took advantage of it

[@Jaklas1979]

Maybe the Scammer misread and its Temps and not FPS :P

[@cyphaborg6598]

Hey that's catchy

[@frank144p4]

CyphaBorg More like cheeky

[@sylvain01]

Lol Basically you hate India because Ebay Scammers smh

[@AdlyLeksono]

@@kyria_kous that wasn't nice

[@H3ADROOM]

123 celsius in CSGO? Weird flex

[@stevemoon2136]

For what seemed like the longest time, I seriously thought the Watchdogs footage was a still image... jeez!

[@NandelsWoking]

"1 fps" bro

[@CaveyMoth]

The excitement of seeing the image on screen change..it's almost palpable.

[@01020m]

Same lol

[@u3pyg]

@@NandelsWoking It is not fps, it is spf (seconds per frame)

[@DatOneGuy901]

Budget Builds: "..and your already thinking" Me: "oh no, why does he have that GPU so close to water?"

[@arnaudmeert1527]

You get scammed for the weirdest stuff on ebay these days. Somebody sent me a dummy phone after a I ordered an old Nokia for parts.. why?

[@NandelsWoking]

i never buy at ebay. its ebay terribly like this?

[@Fermi_Consistency]

@@NandelsWoking I've been literally using eBay for 20 years and I have not gotten scammed the once.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

I had something like this once, it was an old disc drive of a specific model for an old laptop I wanted to fix, for about £3, and they never sent it!

[@xFluing]

Wow man that Loadout ad in the driver installer hit really hard.

[@cacline72]

Scammer: These specs are accurate to my tests. The Budget Builds Controller laughed, "You are wrong."

[@DrachenYT]

It's really bittersweet; I hate that scammers and scamming exists, but I sure as hell do love a good investigative video like this. Seriously glad you were able to get eBay to finally take notice and look into these scumbags.

[@hugoslav843]

I have to add my experience to this. I have one found a scammer that sold hd5770 (with scam benchmarks) I used 3 accounts to buy 3 of them, than got my money Back And took their Page Down. (so i got 3x 5770 for free!) (gave them to my friends that didn't have dedicated gpus in their computers) So i scammed a scammer!

Nice XD

[@RichardiOS275]

That's a big brain move right there

[@amightygrizzly]

Now that's awesome.

[@victorhugofranciscon7899]

Good job sir, you did well

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Same with the rebadged scam cards. Some can just be flashed with a correct BIOS and run fine afterwards. Then take the scammer down, get your money back and have a free card.

[@classic_jam]

Benchmarks False. You make these up.

[@Sugmanoots]

To be fair you gave it the best setup while no one would have a Ryzen build with a old Radeon gpu.For everyone else the benchmarks would be way below.

[@nickjayr0]

the only things ill buy on eBay are optiplex's and some old consoles

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Bought an old Core 2 Xeon from China before. Arrived and runs on 4.1 GHz to this day.

[@dbkarman]

Heres a tip for buying pc parts from ebay, filter auctions only and click ending soonests, yes its the 2nd hand market but its excelent quality and pretty cheap, thats how i got a gtx 760 for £40

[@MsMotoko2]

I got a used xfx rx 580 8gb from ebay a month ago for $100 and it still works great.

[@Azrael_Garou]

My CPU and Mobo are both from ebay as well as my phone.

[@CaveyMoth]

I got my new RTX 2060 on eBay last year, and I'm so glad I did.

[@Zero_Steel]

The moment ur gta 4 running that high of frame rate is the moment u get caught with ur shit out

[@takyon.]

"call of duty 7: Black ops"

[@Kiabeta]

I mean, he's not wrong

[@menofmayhemmm]

If we're counting from the first CoD they're right tho.

[@CherryPixelBun]

It's not wrong, MW2 was the 6th one and WaW was the 5th

[@Alexander_l322]

Makes it sound like a newer game so people who don’t count think it’s the latest or near the latest game

[@plazmasyt]

Scammer: CS:GO at 120 FPS on a HD 4890! Budget: Hold my benchmarks.

[@fionathoirs7335]

They are correct They were just looking at the ground in a corner

[@bananya6020]

"you were using the gpu wrong, the correct way to play games is to stare at the wall and use lookdown all the time"

[@Exponaut_R-01]

My favorite thing is how they said old school games but mentioned relatively new titles especially compared to the card itself They could've switched GTA IV with SA and gotten away with that easily but no they had to stretch the truth

[@thedungeondelver]

Great vid - appreciate you going down the rabbit hole on this one.

[@Im-insanity-uwu]

I’m quite shocked seeing the price for this card, really expensive

[@KeebaAfrica]

the 2 dislikes are some of the sellers

[@thegoodfella1959]

5*

[@IBims1Mark]

32*

[@shqlom8704]

60*

[@DiabloXL69]

0* thanks to youtube

[@cyphaborg6598]

*GTA 4* 84fps... on what planet immarite?

[@captainwasel8377]

This is very informative not just about the card itself but more about how these scammers work on ebay.

[@buddybleeyes]

that was so worth the wait! thank you for the dedication it took to do it :)

[@Trusteft]

It sounds more like it was one guy with 3 accounts, than 3 different people, to me. Regardless, well done, justice has been served. I will never understand scammers and thieves outside of a video game world. Do they think when they eventually die they are going to take all that stolen money with them?

[@frank144p4]

Stealing benchmarks... pretty fraudulent. I can’t imagine peddling lies for pocket change will do you all too well in the long run. Thanks or confronting these scammers, sometimes it feels like online marketplaces aren’t much better than real stores.

[@ipad12z]

Maybe the Claimed Average is actually the highest (or max) FPS the GPU met throughout the benchmarking not the average.

[@symonsicuan6148]

They make use of those bench results for marketing strategy. When ur favorite games are listed in their benchresults. Oh my fav game works in this card!!!!

[@j-man6001]

Love these vids! HAHA 100% SCAMMER when it reads " I know what I am sell"

[@TheTamaranch]

Ngl, I would enjoy purchasing multiple "scam" cards, just to find out what they actually are, and then use them for their intended use cases

[@bananya6020]

...and take the page down to get free stuff

[@JDStickland]

The same thing happened to me with some car parts. I ordered a set of tail lights, only to find out that they were likely QC failed lights or some knockoff 3rd shift lights. Sent them back and was promptly blocked. I go to order from another seller, only to find that I have been blocked from them as well. There are lots of sellers out there with many accounts, artificially inflating the presence of their products. This is either not allowed by eBay or somewhat of a grey area, but eBay doesn't care as these sellers pay their seller fees and listing fees.

[@lc_-ph4lr]

Looks like it's the first time I came early

[@NuclearTopSpot]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@astrixcz9107]

sister liked it

[@gnome.]

Happens to me all the time

[@winnerking]

Kek

[@Class380Fan]

That sounds so wrong.

[@wideyxyz2271]

Ahhhh the old XGR Birdbath cooler. Bit bulky for todays graphics cards but back in the day concrete and water was the way to go in the cooling department.....lols

[@TheSpotify95]

12:52 Did you just mention the HD3450? That card can get 30fps in both CS GO and GTA 5, but you have to use 240p resolution in both. The 3450 absolutely won't hit anywhere near those benchmarks, if the seller is using the same benchmarks as what he posted for the 4890.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

As someone who owns a HD4870 and played Borderlands 2 and Crysis on it, I pretty much agree, those titles pretty much perform as expected. And I'd love to get a HD 4770 and 4830 and compare how they do nowadays. (The 4830 being a replacement for the 4770 to increase yield of RV770 chips and because of manufacturing cost. Same with the 4730 and 4670) Oh a 2nd 4870 to test some Crossfire fun.

[@abhay17381]

Why does this man's voice sound like a more expressive text to speech bot

[@xentiment6581]

Thats why we love him

[@Vuzeo]

Oh my you watch Atomic Shrimp. You gained more respect in my eyes 💚💜

[@skywaytech]

Dude this is so scummy. I've dealt with my fair share of scams, but it still angers me!

[@crayonmunch]

Love your videos man, keep them going!

[@busarna1824]

i always love watching budget builds when i cant use my pc anymore (got destroyed while moving) but anyways i still love this channel

[@Chuggaaconroysson]

Great work as always BBO

[@FullyBuffered]

Awesome investigations man, I swear you find the weirdest stuff :D Just bizarre what people will do to earn a few extra pounds at most...

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Yep. Found the original fella who created the benchmarks over on Twitter. Interesting thread to read as an update 👍

[@FullyBuffered]

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Yeah I saw! Another weird twist to this bizarre story

[@bagasfabianmaulana]

The way he place the card over the water make me feels weird.

[@Dkentflyer]

Great investigations, really enjoyed the video and love the background music you use ☺

[@wtfbrooo4774]

Any dislikes you get are from the sellers and their friends lol.

[@WTFBOOMDOOM]

We have similar names 😃

[@wtfbrooo4774]

@@WTFBOOMDOOM Ayy nice lol

[@ruxcooking]

I love your channel. Just casually learning about directx control panel. I actually have an old laptop with some discrete graphics I can try that on.

[@Johny40Se7en]

You've done a good service to pc part buyers on Ebay, fella, nice one 👍 11:45 Hmm, how did I know that was coming 🤔😅😂 Ebay are usually wicked at dealing with stuff like this though, fair play to them, same goes for Amazon and Paypal. But surely they have very tech savvy people working there who can proof read over these ads, or an algorithm. Like they say, prevention is better than cure 😜

[@JohnHydeisawesome]

To be fair you couldve used WineD3D to use dx11 with similar OpenGL api for better performance.

[@ChaseMC215]

They are accurate.... On the wrong card.

[@teh_supar_hackr]

You know it's a scammer when the seller uses really bad engrish while stating that you made up the benchmarks.

[@crisscrossam]

they should seriously consider enlarging the anti-scam team (if such a team exists) on ebay. there are so many scams on there it's ridiculous. and the people who end up getting scammed are the ones who don't know any better. there need to be more people exposing scammers and prosecuting them.

[@MerkurioBua]

Create a channel with this name "Ebay Scam Slayer" btw 👋👋👋👋👋

[@SianaGearz]

I picked up an old PC and i found a HD-7750 inside, a passive one by Sapphire. Have you ever made a vid with one of those? I didn't end up using the card, i rebuilt the PC to house a GTX970, because HELL YEAH!

[@gulskjegglive]

Sold my original Ryzen 1800X on eBay a few weeks ago. The first bidder gave my an offer 50% less than the reserve, with some sob story about him being a starving student, and he had a "Suite" in his mailing address. I've seen more than one drop-ship scam, so I asked him where he lived. He confirmed it was Azerbaijan. I informed him it was against eBay policy to post a drop-ship address, then blocked him from any future bids. Sellers are at a serious disadvantage, and there are lots of bullshit artists slithering around.

[@euX222X]

A 10US$ HD5770/6770 can push almost all these games at 1080p 60fps (CSGO 200+)...

[@Red-ol9xg]

that puddle below the gpu always scares me

[@tristanholley7141]

Almost surprised you didn't get a GTS450 with an ATi shroud

[@Kevinb1821]

The problem is they are probably prey on people that don’t even have any basic tech sense. Most people probably buy them and never even know they’ve been ripped off

[@devdoesitbest6974]

I see that you record straight off your monitor and I noticed there was some glare. I suggest you do a dual monitor setup with the two monitors mirrored and the second monitor in a dark box to prevent light from coming in. This should improve video quality for the programs that you can't screen record

[@FNUKSTER1366]

Love this channel, but hope those dodgy scammers piss off

[@emmabentley7945]

New subscriber, and Flight Simulation Airport Developer. Brilliant video!

[@Windows71246]

These scammers don't stop at nothing to earn a couple of quid. I just feel sorry for the people who buy these fake cards and how the scammers trick them into thinking they've got the real thing with fake benchmarks or flashing the BIOS on the card.

[@Justin-nz5ed]

You should try and make a budget hackintosh

[@esko911]

Good job!!! Keep taking these pieces of shits OFF eBay or any platform that allows selling.

[@skins4thewin]

So I'm just curious as to what exactly you said to Ebay to try and get your money back for something like graphics card specs that don't match up? Like how exactly do you prove that to Ebay in a way that allows them to take you seriously? Am just curious because I have had to open cases before thru Ebay, but never for something like this. I imagine it might be kind of hard to get them to take you seriously with something like this. How do you do it? What exactly do you tell them to convince you to side with you in your Ebay case?

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Misleading Description and False Advertising

[@mruczyslaw50]

I wonder how many times these graphics cards felt into water on that stone sink at beggining

[@jennybartel801]

good luck my friend great work

[@UltimatePerfection]

Plot twist: the frwmerates were actually measured in the main menu and average=maximum measured fps.

[@theorphanobliterator]

gotta love when the GPU you use has 3 ports, the most modern of which being literal dvi 😂

[@DrCoomer_1]

Jim Browning would be proud man

[@NicholasMavrikBrandt]

curious if these older cards wouldn't perform better on Linux specially AMD cards as their drivers are still actively supported. With steam proton I see better performance on Linux using windows version of games its silly.

[@christeschke9844]

Check out Nzxt pre builts. it says that a 2060 gets 60fps in cyberpunk at 1440p. Lying about fps is the best way to sell :)

[@fwingebritson]

good video, however, the second and about seventeenth pins on the card are discolored which indicates either carbon deposits or other issues that could affect the performance of the card. Also, i would say "buyer beware," seriously, if a buyer wants to get a cheap card for modern games, they should know better to make sure they get something that supports at least directx11 and not some card that supports directx 11 (10), and there are a lot of cards out there that do that which makes the manufacturers look as much a scammer as the scammers on ebay.

[@joemck85]

I was beginning to think they were reporting *maximum* fps instead of average. But nope, straight up scam.

[@Zionbahzard]

The dude probably benched the games up to the main menu lmao well for those games that run on dx10 lol

[@SharpShoot3r_14]

This card is a better performer than GTX 750 Ti according to benchmarks, but it doesn't even support Dx11. 😁

[@ClanOxyL]

Ahhh good ol HD series. I have a hd5870 in my laptop. Its directx11 too!

[@dhgodzilla1]

Worst issues with ebay I have are usually similar to this. They are usually Chinese. Sometimes they have a large warehouse stocked with lots of cheap items outside of China. So you buy from a seller from the UK or Canada, America ect, but it's still cheap knock off products often & they almost never refund. Thankfully ebay usually has your back with scammers like this.

[@clusterhunt]

Yo man what is the tool you use to check the framrate?

[@RichardiOS275]

He used MSI Afterburner

[@clusterhunt]

@@RichardiOS275 oh okay thanks man

[@shidoengie9503]

yay new video keep it up hamish!

[@Treynath84]

And here I am, struggling to play WaW just under 720p with medium settings. (30-90 fps, but some maps drop it down to like 6-12)

[@robert28040]

What program are You using for hardware stats on-screen?

[@somervillearron]

i wonder how many graphics cards have ended up in that puddle?

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

I really hate scams like this so much. I worry that people like my family will get tricked by this, and will get scammed into buying some crap like this when they just wanted to buy a graphics card for someone.

[@yearls]

I think some people are just afraid of being honest. This was very insightful though. XD

[@GuybrushThriftweed]

They sell these cards with Shady Units instead of Shader... Hmmm

[@RaulServers]

I don't understand how did GTA 4 ran so poorly on this card, if you see old videos of this card running GTA, you can run this on much higher settings, what went wrong?

[@groza8179]

Maybe the updates make older cards harder to run it.

[@attackLive]

How did u manage to contact ebay?

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Thanks !! How about HD7770 & HD7570 of AliExpress ??? They do seems shady....

[@onion69420]

It's probably a bad time to try to scam someone, right now people are learning about computer parts as they want the best bang for buck gaming pc to pass time during the pandemic, use pay pal on ebay and screenshot those specs as evidence, and you will get your money back, hell you may even keep the card.

[@thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813]

at 11:25 i thought you stole my keyboard xD

[@nulious]

Recently I was looking at 1080tis on Ebay and found several listings for $50.

[@pqrstzxerty1296]

If you have a i7 CPU why are you using these GPU cards, Minimum is a Ati Rx series, and R5 and R7 is they same (little bit updated) as these HD cards but the drivers are available for Linux and Win10 ?

[@ShaighJosephson]

Do yourself a favor and never buy anything off of ebay... New items are ridiculously overpriced and used items most always turn out to be a rip off... 💥

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

Are you sure that wasn’t your cpu doing everything to run watchdogs? Because the gpu usage was 0%

[@DanStormVO]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person with 3 accounts, seems to happen a lot

[@Byokugen]

Good job! We need les scammers on ebay

[@frankenstein_colt_98]

Budget cars We need another channel for a budget cars series

[@rin_sienta]

Still use Radeon HD 4850 with 1GB GDDR5 VRAM, also from Powercolor until now. And yes, the seller give some bullshit for that benchmark. 123 fps for CS GO? That's hilarious. DirectX 11? Even the driver not support Win 10 natively....

[@Frostnburn]

You mentioned that the main market for these cards are for people running older OS's like Windows XP. Why would they use this card when cards like the GTX 700 series and 900 series exist with working official Windows XP drivers*? These cards, even the lower end versions, would blow these older GPU's performance out of the water as well as supporting everything up to DX11 at the very least. *with 900 series, by default XP drivers only support 950 and 960, but a quick installation inf mod and you can get the rest of the 900 series (970, 980 and 980ti) working.

[@antwanarmstrong5987]

I guess it's for people who like to build period correct PCs, like core 2 quads/phenoms with gtx 280/hd4870.

[@aretard7995]

because they are cheap when the seller isn't scamming you?