Taking Science on Faith

Abbas talks with an Atheist about the existence of a creator using logical and reasoned arguments and in contrast the atheist argues with no evidence to prove otherwise.
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[@SlothyWoffy]

I'm not Muslim, but this guys argument is very logical

[@amitguptar9968]

***** Then you are very ignorant and islam deserves people like you....convert quickly

[@SlothyWoffy]

+Amit Guptar hey I'm not a Muslim and don't wish to be one thanks but he makes valid points

[@omarmarenzone]

good you consider it logical . so what is holding you to accept what is logical. if only a muslim can explan to you and you consider it logical as you sayed not me !. that thier is one creator. " I think that you accept logic" so what is holding you . to becom a muslim. is it a fare question?. well I well say and its mu opinion nothing els you can defer with me . it well be . what well people say about me . my friends. my family. I have to not look to women . I have to stop drinking alcohool .… ect. .

[@ShakeelAhmed-xm5yc]

I like the black guy wearing helmet ... Simply superb

[@kennethwhite8045]

The black guy, wearing the jet fighter helmet, was dropping golden nuggets (i.e. interjecting simple but strong arguments) as the debate progressed. The Muslim guy and he made a good team.

[@kennethwhite8045]

yoyo youcef but when fried...chicken nuggets are golden :)

[@lDeath489]

Someone doesn't know is normal , but what is not normal is someone who don't know yet claim that the other person don't know without even hearing his answer or opinion or reading his source that claim to answer this issue. This shows arrogance / bad intentions / someone doesn't want to learn and therefore a closed mind, sadly so far most of the atheists i saw are like this, they actually don't want to know, they are not interested. That's why ALLAH said , even if he shows him self they still won't believe , it is mind blowing how ALLAH describe these people. Very accurate description of their nature , intentions and acts. You just need to test it lol...

[@FunKouri]

+killtheyas exactly

[@randaltaco3280]

Does the guy in on the bike do any videos, if anyone knows? he's comedy haha.

[@randaltaco3280]

omg, I had to watch this again, the black guy on the bike makes some very logical arguments at 26:10 hahahahaha I love him.

[@soleil3gs]

Man you guys have no idea how happy I am that youre back!!!

[@learn.English.Online]

when someone is ignorant and arrogant, thats a messed up, ,

[@djayawarman]

Brother if you find another denier like this person, use their reason or premise that science is the truth. Stick with it use it as simple reasoning that science give evidence that there is a creator which is proof for the existence for a creator. Use ipad or what ever smart device to show it. :)

[@AbdulRehman-yo2qn]

The guy almost spent half an hour, and the atheist still clings to his words 'We don't know'

[@TheMightySausaaj]

The brother in the helmet is class. Wish more people contributed to the discussion like this guy did. Not just shout out random things that make no sense what so ever.

[@perweezneqqi4049]

i trust science but i don't believe it. is this white guy trolling??? lol.

[@dentistdany2775]

the brothers are doing jihad ^^ .. keep it up

[@emileejacson8799]

Excellent knowledge and the guy on the bike is very intelligent. But the ethist will one day surely taste his fate of denying the creater.

[@1h2a3z]

As Abbas would say, this was a very fruitful conversation

[@IslamTheRightWay10]

Hehe Subhanallah, the guy on the scooter is making me laugh xD

[@SlothyWoffy]

Isn't that black guy with the helmet the dude from YMCA??

[@nawfal1521]

When is your next trip Akhi?

[@littlelion]

As-Salamu Alaylum! Which means "peace be upon you," I am very curious what microphone brother Hamza is using? Insha Allah, which means "if God wills," it would be greatly appreciated ^_^

[@leonaanita719]

If you Notice, All priests drink the wine, but never share it, As they were told to. If you notice they share the circle of sin,the so-called holy bread. And Not take it themselvs. Why??? If you Go to a church service, even in Malta, you will wittness this. The Question, why o why.... Now I remember why we started consuming the blood of human And home grown Animal. Slightly better quality life. For yes upon yes they have been blastomising the prophets,messiahs,the saints even, John Paul real John Frances(Frances of Assisi)

[@martinmoorek5617]

Im just wondering fi those two are brothers or lowers .????. They sounds the same( stupie to me cheap tactic ) or Maye they just going to the same doctor ???.

[@waqarhussain6931]

i like white helmet guy .

[@alijataaa]

That man is so egoist,even lot of evidences, he dont wanna think that there is a creator.

[@ajohnny6023]

usually. it's people who have no science background or understanding are the ones who argue science.

[@SurdeInglaterr]

Newton deduced that the orbits of the planets were the result of ultimate divine intervention , he was eventually proven wrong,... deduction isn't really that great.

[@perweezneqqi4049]

i don't really see any christian preacher talk about science. if anybody got a link plz give me. im intrested to hear their opinion.

[@kennethwhite8045]

If you want to see Christians debating science and atheist, check out Kent Hovind and Dr. William Lane Craig. They are two of the best, regardless of religious affiliation. Enjoy.

[@stevenhird1837]

Kenneth White who Kent hovind the tax dodger"

[@kennethwhite8045]

Steven Hird That would be correct, sir!...LOL... At least that's what they charged him with. He has some crazy ideas about not having to paying taxes (i.e. taxes being unconstitutional) and it got him put in the clinker. But, he's out now, and looking to take on any naturalist brave enough to face off with him. I don't believe everything he says, in particularly his young earth theory, but his argument against evolution is solid, as-well as his position on the atheist movement being like a religion is spot on, and quite interesting. Richard Dawkins won't debate him.

[@wizman619]

Brothers, for some reason only this video doesn't load for me. I can watch any other video except this. Is this a sign from Allah not to watch this video?

[@mansooralam318]

as human being we are the perfect creation by the one creator born with the ability of free will and brain to use.

[@lDeath489]

+READ ME Trust me , if you watch this you will be more convinced of ALLAH , xP ... Check my other new comment if it still doesn't work and it will tell you a summery of the atheist. ALLAH gave us the ability to learn( gain knowledge) and choose based on it with intentions in mind. That's our purpose as humans, you will easily identify truth with this method because if your intentions are good you will always seek to know and fix mistakes and that's how you really solve the issues,questions...etc you are facing and that will lead to pleasing ALLAH and evolving your self which will benefit you not ALLAH because it is a test for us humans not a test for ALLAH , if you don't know something yet or you are doing something wrong unintentionally but you stick with these rules you will be more than fine. With time ALLAH will guide you as long you know your duty and TRY your best. The more you study the sources objectively the more you become peaceful inside and outside. If you do that to any issue you have , in ALLAH will you will over come it. Just remember your duties. ALLAH won't change you unless you try to change your self. These people in the video don't seek answers, they are clearly arrogance wether we muslims are right or wrong. Peace brother :> ..

[@wizman619]

S Al Brother, I am Muslim elhamdullilah.

[@lDeath489]

***** I know xP , i was just excited and wanted to say what's in my mind lol. This is for muslims too, a lot don't apply it because they don't know it most of the time, they have wrong concept of why do we live and how do we live it. So It is a way of life , It makes my mind in peace. So i wanted to share it :>

[@wizman619]

S Al Jazakallah Khairun

[@theplugtoday3658]

22:33, lol.

[@randaltaco3280]

HHAHAHAHHA The guy on the bike is so cool lol.

[@martinmoorek5617]

And apparently they can read

[@falcogenos2504]

Just give them small example.... Number 1 are made from what number.... That's it.... Wassalammualaikum....

[@HastDesigns]

that young man looks like the guy in nikita. Mike. sorry, i had to say it. lol

[@Rogue_Console]

Lol athiesm destroyed

[@LogicalStatements3]

Throw all human made language out of the window. Throw MAN MADE WORD "science" and the MAN MADE WORD "god" out of the window. What are we left with....... thankfully we would be left with no religion. But hey lets face it, human beings really love human made language, they invest so much into it, even belief systems.

[@ltchyface]

LogicalStatements3 Without religion you would have no laws. A godless society is a lawless society.

[@33D33AntiDotE33E733]

Do you actually believe that?

[@33D33AntiDotE33E733]

Simple. Don't let children be thugs, if we ever see them doing anything akin to bullying we punish them SEVERELY. Adults behaving like savages are killed. To prevent these obviously undesirable outcomes we develop a high level of education and culture in society using positive propaganda. Why would that be bad? I would give credability to the idea that religion did help us teach savages to not attack us and each other but I feel it can be likened to training wheels on a bike. It serves a purpose but to a point in time where it then actually backfires and begins to hinder your progress. Most people have reached this stage even if they don't feel like they have.

[@ltchyface]

Kraken That's your take on society, why should 1945 Nazi Germany listen to your way of life? When you have objective moral judgements that supersede our reality and our subjective judgements, you get a set in stone set of rules that can apply to our life efficiently and consistently. I mean, who knows the product the best, other than it's creator? Can you show me the point in ntime where it hindered our progress? We as a people have come so far, only to fall so short with the secular nations becoming rampant. Obama murdering millions and millions of innocents, in the name of what? In the name of religion? Or how about Stalin, he killed millions of his own people and he was an atheist, yet you don't hear anything about that. OR maybe the shooting that went on recently where an ATHEIST killed 3 innocent muslims! If you want to generalize, then go right ahead, I'll multiply yours by 10.

[@KCWhoa]

If the theist made any sense to you, you're desperate to be right.

[@buddies8472]

so much question from athies but their dont want eccept a answer.. in the end ethies become clueless and answering himself...

[@martinmoorek5617]

Bing bang lol evolution mate

[@SurdeInglaterr]

'let me speak for one more minute' 'hold on a second' equals 30 minutes cocaine-like long boring preaching. desperate theist mode. you blamed another speaker for doing 'machine gun attack' is just what you are doing mr muslim.

[@omarmarenzone]

when you say what you do muslims is bad . you have to go to the teaches of the islamic religion .dos it say kill nun beliverse dos it says smak or kill or say ofencif words to whom dose not agre with your believe or your point of view. the answer is no . you can go and ceek it by your self . ther is islamic websids you can surch in . I well tel you what islam teaches . in the prospection of what you have reveld by your self just now . 1. it teaches that you preach with kindness and resoning . 2. when you clear your point if view thats all you are asked to do let people decide after you explan you're view of point as god " allah" "الله" told you haw . 3. also says no compulsion " fors in religon .4. also god says that you cant mack an unbeleiver becoming a bleliever .god only can do that. you give people what god revealed you to do thats it. " by the way prophet mohamed had an uncle that rased hem he loved him so much but he was an unbeliever . at time of he's uncle was very sick he was dying. he wanted his uncle to say ther is no god but allah one god . but he dedent say it and he died . he couldent safe his loved one . because every one has his own free well in excepting things. so if any one says I am a muslim and dos any thing that you see that it is bad . you go to the teaching of islam is it ther or not . if not . and I gaved you recently the teachings of islam in that particular prospection. so that person is doing that bad thing as an act of hes own prospections not prospections of islamic teachings " so you say that person is a bad example for what a muslim should have to be . not to say that islam is bad it dosent teach the act that the hapoend from that person that says I am a muslim . " islam means submeting your well to god . if som one dos an act that is the diflicting with the teaching of god he is doing a cine. do you know the story of jousef the prophet. when he was a litel boy he went with his olderly brother to play with them . after convincing ther father to allow jousef to go and play with them . when they went with him .thay got red of him and throw him in a wale because they wore jealous from him that ther father loved him mire than thay. so thay cam back to ther father with jusef shirt stand it with fake blood . and sayed that we were rasing and we left him with our stof when we cam back .a wolf eaten him . " now what did that poor wolf do he dident eat jusef. but but the blam on the wolf. so if the wolf was asked did you eat jusef he wel say no . " so I ask you to dont plam islam it self by what you heard from people. our wat you are given to see .ask the quran the teaching of islam . if is it correct or not" I hope that I mad a clear . logical ststement .

[@jdplanas]

Illogical arguments dressed up as logic, equivocation, begging the question, playing with the definitions of words...how can people that claim to speak for a divine Creator be so blatantly dishonest? Replace the word God with Allah and you have the same failed apologetics Christians have been using for years.

[@omarmarenzone]

hi their. til me in wich language is the word "god" in . its english. correct . ok in arabic when you traslate it. it becomes "allah" thats all. so where is the nunsense in that . and that you are claming that. we are not logical .nonsense people. well in fact. you dident dige throw knowledge to come with your statement. so regarding of all respect. you are the one whom is nonsense regarding the issue that I cleared about the name of god. " I hope that you dont jump to a nother dicam to prove your statement"

[@jdplanas]

+omar ali So I think you missed my first point and made a second point that is also incorrect. My first point is that the apologetics being used are false. They are not true. They are cleverly worded "scripts" designed to trap people that don't understand the game being played. It's a mental "slight of hand" no different than a guy doing card tricks on the street. I respect people for the beliefs they hold, but I do not respect people that use false arguments to claim they know things they don't. The other point is that the arguments - even if they were valid - would apply to any supposed supernatural being. Christians and Muslims use these same arguments to argue for entirely different truth claims. You say God and Allah are the English and Arabic words for the same being....so Muslims believe Jesus is God?

[@jdplanas]

You need to learn how to read carefully...you missed the point. Maybe if you weren't in such a rush to insult people you would have understood.

[@Webnotized227]

Use god to fill in the gaps much, do we?

[@37rogu7]

Is that all you got from the video? Oh brother.

[@Webnotized227]

إنصاف It would help if it was more than that, but it's not. Also faith is believing without evidence, no one takes science on faith. All the evidence we have is what makes it a science. I'd be willing to accept a God if I were given substantial evidence.

[@1mr4n6]

Webnotized227 Science is based on faith too, Athiesm is a religion too just as Islam,Christianity and other religions are too. The only thing with Athiesm is that anything can be true for example evolution of us coming from monkeys but God can not be true. Absolutely anything can be a theory except God is what Athiesm is. I would ask you brother what would you mean by evidence? In Sha Allah (If God wills) you are guided to the truth one day brother!

[@Webnotized227]

free palestine "Science is based on faith too" Science is based on evidence, and with enough of it we often consider it fact. Faith is belief without evidence. Not the same "Athiesm is a religion too just as Islam,Christianity and other religions are too." This is a refrain I’m hearing a lot from religious apologists - atheism is a religion. Also its equally fallacious siblings, science is a religion and evolution is a religion. It’s a sign of desperation the best argument you have is not that atheism is wrong, or that god does exist (supported by evidence of course), but that atheism is a religion too. A strange argument for a religious person to make on the face of it. Is it supposed to strengthen the atheist’s position or weaken the theist’s one? In reality it’s a sign you've have run out of arguments. "The only thing with Athiesm is that anything can be true for example evolution of us coming from monkeys but God can not be true." That shows you don't understand evolution, we have a common ancestor.... Not came from. They did however came from the same common ancestor at some point. "Absolutely anything can be a theory except God is what Athiesm is." God is not a theory. A theory is constructed based on available evidence. There is no evidence for God...... Therefor He can not be a theory. "I would ask you brother what would you mean by evidence?" As defined noun 1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. verb 2. be or show evidence of. So If god is real, and it is his will..... wouldn't I know the truth? Why would so many die without conversion to your religion? With so many religions said to be true one would have to be false...... How are you sure it's not yours?

[@1mr4n6]

Webnotized227 "Science is based on faith too" Science is based on evidence, and with enough of it we often consider it fact. Faith is belief without evidence. Not the same" So can you go the lab and bring all the experiments you have done to prove everything you believe in? So you can confirm or do you go on testimony? "That shows you don't understand evolution, we have a common ancestor.... Not came from. They did however came from the same common ancestor at some point." Maybe you should research what common ancestors mean, your ancestor at one point was a monkey making it you came from a monkey. I already explained to you the theory of monkeys resigns in Macro evolution which has never been proven, they just use the micro evolution which has been proven to be true to validate macro evolution which is just a theory just as I could say I could prove to you our Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) flew up to heaven on a winged horse. I can prove there are winged horse by using the evolution theory and using macro evolution within that theory and you can't turn around and say oh no that is not true or laugh about my claim because then you would be a hypocrite. Are you one? I want scientific evidence to prove what you base your religion on is claimed to be proven by scientific evidence. You call yourself an Athiest, this is the BELIEF of no God in itself says it all as you are talking about faith. But as you are ignorant then I want the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to prove God is not true. It is only right and to be consistent in your arguments, one should apply to everything you say and project and also be fair. You go on to say how do I know my faith is the right one? Because Allah saw it fit to preserve the Qur'an and also other people were sent messengers through out time but the message was just for the specific time and now has been corrupted by MEN as I have shown you two examples of two religions which have many contradictions in them now and they have strayed from having one God to multiple Gods. Maybe you should read this passage of the Qur'an and In Sha Allah it will help you realize the questions for the answers are already answered for you within the Qur'an my brother... Qur'an Surat Al Hijr 15:6 And they say,"O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad. 15:7 Why do you not bring us the angels, if you should be among the truthful?" 15:8 We do not send down the angels except with truth; and the disbelievers would not then be reprieved. 15:9 Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian. 15:10 And We had certainly sent [messengers] before you, [O Muhammad], among the sects of the former peoples. 15:11 And no messenger would come to them except that they ridiculed him. 15:12 Thus do We insert denial into the hearts of the criminals. In Sha Allah you are guided back to the truth akhi.

[@Bandit72]

First point, the Qur'an doesn't mention the big bang, FACT. Second point, this 'creator' must've been so good, he forgot to take into account that the sun will eventually explode and the Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with the Milky Way. FACT.

[@EuphoricPlaz]

Actually he does state the there was a big bang

[@Bandit72]

I never said him, I said the Qur'an.

[@EuphoricPlaz]

Sorry, I meant to type god and if god said it is also in the Quran you can google it.

[@Bandit72]

It is NOT in the Qur'an. Google it. In fact, give me the verse.

[@EuphoricPlaz]

Of course, it doesn't just say "Big Bang happened" in the Quran. Allah describes it in verse 21:30 "Have those who disbelieved not considered the heavens(space) and the earth(matter) were a joined entity, then we separated them, and made from water every living thing."

[@ruwanthadennis948]

islam??? isis

[@UltramegaMA]

The guy on the bike is awesome.

[@nabeels7325]

He made some good points

[@theplugtoday3658]

22:33, lol.

[@theplugtoday3658]

The guy in the black polo is very patient, damnnn.

[@AlotaibiA]

" one is infinitely more than none" that's is an excellent point. This guy with the helmet is actually quite smart!!. By the way, there are lots of physicists who believe the universe come from nothing, of course by changing the definition of the nothingness radically. But that is beside the point. Good talk Abbas.

[@StreetDawahBarbados]

May Allah guide these people u guys at EFDawah give dawah too; keep up the good work brothers

[@FreedomOfSpeech4Ever]

Simple... i just know the ONE thing... that ***there is no unbeliever in sinking boat***

[@arturartuzov3361]

Ah... So 'belief' is all about cowardice in not facing up to death. What creator would only accept the spineless ? A very man made creator indeed.

[@mdzak6999]

May Allah bless the gentleman on the bike I got love for people like that honest and unbiased not arrogant. Lol am just wondering where’s my brother Darren lol I realised his missing he’s on to that dude who was shouting at background lol

[@onetimeonly11]

i believe in the coin flipping theory of creation, i just doubt we even have a word even close to describing how long it took

[@morahman3]

How can you be English and not understand the English words

[@martinmoorek5617]

They picking on everything and don't listen ....

[@theplugtoday3658]

The guy in the black polo is very patient, damnnn.

[@MoeedKhan1979]

a man with helmet also very intelligent and smart. nice man

[@JohnCena-ne7uh]

Is that man Gregory peck he makes some good movies

[@tauseefmalik551]

The man in the helmet has point. I am impressed

[@YoussefBouneb]

I wish they argued more on who created Allah, see, for something to be created it needs a portion of time and space, and If god is the creator of everything he cannot be created, because he created space and time, he cannot belong IN it, he created it.

[@ajohnny6023]

+Youssef Bouneb right.

[@crochetparfait8986]

Great Argument Abbas

[@alexeikyznetsov9507]

10:40 Mindblown logic

[@logicmofo4810]

The universe is made of matter and antimatter (fact). Matter is positive energy and antimatter is negative energy(fact). The sum of these equate to zero (fact). So if the universe equates to zero then did the universe need a creator when plausibly it came from nothing?

[@FunKouri]

ah nice. why dont you try to create something out of zero?

[@stevenhird1837]

Kris Fox at last somebody who knows some fact "they'd" no science in religion it's just faith

[@mozzinator]

you just threw law of conservation of energy out of the park blatantly....further more everything is matter ..yes, a fact. correct and there's also antimatter..nope it's just a theory so a theory can be wrong and can be right.

[@logicmofo4810]

Moazzam Baig You are just plain wrong sorry! Try again.

[@kschnek76]

Allah means AlLaw... Islam use to say HisLamb

[@omarmarenzone]

explain that to me give me evidence for you statment that you maed . if you dont have . I well not accept. your statement. if you say the earth is shaped ilke an ege .I well ask you evidence to prove that .a logical evidens . so if you brout a pice of paper and a pine and drown for me an ege shaped object and drown the continents . thats not a proval evidence . if you brout me a video from a satilite that recorded a vidoe of the eath from out space for 24 hours. I well be accept your evidecnce and prove . and well have srong believe that the earth is in ege shape. am I rational her and logic

[@kamranalafghani4766]

wow ur stupid

[@Foralluhaterz]

did u sneak in a burger? your name sounds ridiculous, nuff said

[@mansooralam318]

+Kamran Naseri he isn't stupied he just can't see, already mentioned in Quran about these people

[@kamranalafghani4766]

Mansoor Alam yea in surah baqarah dumb deaf and blind

[@Webnotized227]

You can't see something coming from nothing, but you think someone created something from nothing? What host did the creator use? from past knowledge, and experience we know that consciousness requires a host, furthermore that host also need to host, in our example the earth.

[@kennethwhite8045]

Webnotized227 Einstein, use that big brain of yours.... Question: Is it more logical to believe that an I-Phone: A) created itself, or B) someone created the I-Phone?

[@Webnotized227]

Kenneth White A cell phone does not self replicate so it would need a creator, but not just one.... many, many multiple successions of people all riding on the back of previous understanding, and accomplishments of others. You think if you gave Einstein an I-phone all in pieces that he could fix it? It takes more than intelligence, it also requires a working knowledge of a plethora of sciences. It's not logical to believe a single creator did anything on their own, we know that's not how it works.

[@kennethwhite8045]

Webnotized227 Exactly, Einstein, if a cell phone does not/cannot 'self replicate, then, on the same token, the Universe (i.e. space, time, and all matter) did not self replicate or create itself. Things that show evidence of design, it's logical and reasonable to assume have a designer. Why is it unreasonable to assume that a single creator created the Universe? If not ONE, how many creators do you believe created the universe?

[@Webnotized227]

Kenneth White Life does Einstein. Where is this evidence for design in life, and the world around us? It being here is far from evidence. If we are to use experience, and past knowledge then yes it's unreasonable. name something with a single creator.

[@kennethwhite8045]

Webnotized227 I thought you would never ask, Einstein... Regarding the evidence for design in life... here are a few examples for you, Einstein: the Atom, the cell wall of a leaf or in plant life, the cell membrane of animals, dogs, snakes, the cosmological constants, the human eye, hand, etc.. Hope this answers your question, Einstein. Use that big brain of yours and stop listening to nimrods like Richard Dawkins and those of his elk.