I like how you did an objective review and let the viewer see the differences and similarities between both bikes instead of trying to see which was best overall - it's cool that we have the variety of bikes to pick whichever fits our needs the best 💯
@lachlanmtb75402 жыл бұрын
Agreed, he was so considerate about everything
@coreymcnamara63202 жыл бұрын
You guys are funny. Unless your serious, then I'm sure your paid off too....
@XAV-72 жыл бұрын
I've found u yesterday and I CAN'T STOP WATCHING YOURE VIDEOS!!!
@teodorrusnac27773 ай бұрын
Thats probably bc u want a surron or talaria (and he has great content), cuz thats why I watch his videos
@ralphfader75372 жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂 he really gave a point away even know the horns are identical😂
@gabrielbanna6725 Жыл бұрын
Literally the exact same horn 😂😂
@mikkelkirketerp4884 Жыл бұрын
What are you smoking? Most definitely not the same
@gabrielbanna6725 Жыл бұрын
@@mikkelkirketerp4884 Brother. Its the exact same generic horn. What are you smoking? I’m a multi-instrumentalist and I can assure you they are the exact same tone and pitch. Maybe you’re tone deaf?
@mikkelkirketerp4884 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielbanna6725 i feel bad for you then. You can clearly hear that they don't sound exactly the same.
@gabrielbanna6725 Жыл бұрын
😭😭 My brother in christ. You realize these bike companies buy a lot of their parts from the same manufacturers right? Or are you just naive? Ronster literally says “we’re looking at the same brakes, handlebars, front wheels, rotors, headlights, key ignition. The forks are random and you could get either set on either bike. So why tf would they then go through the trouble of getting a unique HORN of all things. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️. They sound exactly the same. The Talaria was only a hair louder, but that could’ve just been due to how hard he pressed each of them.
@cliffbreedlove11592 жыл бұрын
What about weight, one of the most important measurements for off-road riders? The Talaria is over 25 pounds heavier than the Sur-Ron, and that weight negates a good bit of the Talaria battery's extra amp hours, making the battery comparison much closer. Also, you said that the Sur-Ron was "thinner" and "more nimble," which should be another point since this is an important consideration for off-road riding.
@dexgray45812 жыл бұрын
You nailed it man!… After talking to a couple of talaria owners who also owned Surron’s, I heard back that with the upgraded Gladiator Chi battery 60V/60Ah… The total new weight on the SurRon goes from 110 to 125 pounds… However the talaria comes in at 138 pounds STOCK. That’s a huge dealbreaker for me personally. Hope this information helps!🙏🙌
@josephfreeman52892 жыл бұрын
My KTM 380cc 2 stroke weight is 300lbs. I guess some of us know how to throw around a bike sp 25lbs don't make a difference. That's like the weight of my poop
@cliffbreedlove11592 жыл бұрын
My point exactly: I wouldn't want to ride my Sur-Ron while carrying your poop.
@aa-vn7ri2 жыл бұрын
Stock Talaria is 135 pounds measured here kzbin.infoqcHAK3mB_1Y
@shuttzi98782 жыл бұрын
@@josephfreeman5289 i agree, many people who are Looking to buy a sur ron have the road bicycle gang mentality when it comes to the weight so it shouldnt come out as a surprise Talaria looks like it can actually take a beating while sur ron looks cool and all but has thay "toy aura" around it, at least in my experience.
@cahy_mys96962 жыл бұрын
i just started watching you videos a week ago and now your the only youtuber i wanna watch
@mohammedelmarnissi87172 жыл бұрын
That Lancer EVO X on 8:07 looks amazing 😍👌
@nutty99mega Жыл бұрын
Best vid for someone who is new in the e-bike world
@pockit57d.a.d.68 Жыл бұрын
I went Sur Ron x my next upgrade is 17 in wheels . . These are more fun due to how many upgrade options available. 45 mph right out of the box very little needed to do 73mph top end with the same motor. Bike weight 105
@surronsan31932 жыл бұрын
The turn radius is much wider on the Talaria, and it has suspension linkage play issue and most important motor overheating issues (code E42).
@kpmmsupervision12976 ай бұрын
Damn! Wow that’s not good!
@Ryan-qx6ch2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see your comparison video, I have owned SURRON for 5 years and the Light Bee is a trusted product. I am happy to have it. TALARIA also looks good because it copied the SURRON concept, but the frame with the modified shape doesn't seem to have the simple design aesthetic of SURRON's frame. This bike design by SURRON is their concept from 7 years ago, shame on Talaria now in 2022 to replicate the concept of SURRON 7 years ago. There's always a bit of a knockoff feel to it. From China, there may be 10 or 100 factories replicas like Talaria‘s way in the future. SURRON is always original. The Light Bee model is SURRON, but SURRON does not only have Light Bee. Having competition is a good thing for consumers and may speed up the progress of SURRON's new generation of products.
@samdanin41252 жыл бұрын
Talaria were allowed to copy the bike a bit though cuz the guy in charge of Talaria was a Surron engineer
@alfie.sutton1426 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has owned both bikes I can 100% say the surron is way better, the only thing I do prefer on the talaria is how much more the battery lasts and how your legs hug the bike more
@debbax4838 Жыл бұрын
im tryna decide to get either talaria or surron but idk
@karmzyy6191 Жыл бұрын
No way 😂😂 Talarias way better g had both and Surron sounded rattly, not as much power, uncomfortable, not as wider arches for bigger wheels, not got a 2 in 1 plug, Talaria looks nicer aswell 😂
@mauka-qx5ivАй бұрын
@@karmzyy6191thats literally the opposite the surron looks better and the surron battery rattles the most
@karmzyy6191Ай бұрын
@@mauka-qx5iv tf you on about g I had a mx3 and a surron light bee the Talaria was way nicer looking and battery rattled load😂😂😂
@mauka-qx5ivАй бұрын
@@karmzyy6191 your bugging talaria is like a andrioid and surron is apple
@gavinmarko23512 жыл бұрын
All of my buddies have tried both and we all like the surron more. Smoother power, the bike frame is better and makes you feel in complete control. Better suspension and it feels lighter too
@SurRonster2 жыл бұрын
i agree
@policies85342 жыл бұрын
“Smoother” power isn’t really a plus, it’s basically saying less power
@freddybell8328 Жыл бұрын
I've heard that the bike frame has more flex on the Sur Ron? How exactly is the suspension better?
@anthonymoultrie6458 Жыл бұрын
@@SurRonsterbest place to get a Sutton?
@whotfcaressb2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos, I can't afford a sur ron or talaria but I do have a ebike, so I love the videos regardless.
@darmou2 жыл бұрын
Well if your Bit of Coin takes off I'm sure you will one day ;)
@larrymacdonald42412 жыл бұрын
Build one, buy the parts one at a time... Ali express has some nice frames, I built a 2 wheel drive ebike with 7kw of power and I stayed on the low end for controllers and battery voltage 48v..... however I did build a custom battery pack with Samsung 40T cells so i could fit 2 batteries inside the frame... with a discharge of 175 amps each... over 300 amps total discharge capable... ^^ 20 amp hours each... if your going to run Motorcycle tires, Shinko 520 series are nice.
@flexo33332 жыл бұрын
@@larrymacdonald4241 175A@ 48V is quite pointless tho.
@Where-is-Jessica-Hyde2 жыл бұрын
I have a Prodeco Outlaw, but now I want a SurRon...
@GaelLazerYT2 жыл бұрын
im still gona go for the Surron, they have it in my city a year ago and i cant wait to get it this spring or summer
@44Bailout2 жыл бұрын
you won't regret it
@GaelLazerYT2 жыл бұрын
@@44Bailout 😎
@nuclear99772 жыл бұрын
@@GaelLazerYT bruh buy talaria
@GaelLazerYT2 жыл бұрын
@@nuclear9977 I don't know if thats okay in my city or the roads
@GaelLazerYT2 жыл бұрын
@@nuclear9977 and that 10k no ty
@SzekeraDaHustla2 жыл бұрын
Had an option to buy either one and went with surron then seen this video afterwards and it validated my choice 💨💨🔥🔥 thanks for the vid drop look forward to more!!
@SzekeraDaHustla2 жыл бұрын
@Rabbi Kikenstein got it when it was $4,200.. key word “was” lol
@bigbraintech2352 жыл бұрын
To fix the throttle curve problem you need to go in the settings and change the gear ratio to what you like.
@joshuaedwards35222 жыл бұрын
Ohh cool, so is there like an iPhone app then?
@leounknown99522 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaedwards3522 Nope. its on the bike itself.
@Westo_ire Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaedwards3522 have you ridden the surron? If so which would your prefer? I was about to choose the surron just because he was experiencing poor throttle response so thank you
@bslothed3211 Жыл бұрын
@@Westo_ire Go with surron, all in all, only go with Talaria if you are super tall really. If not Surron is the way to go, BUT. Can't go wrong with either.
@silenthashassin8912 Жыл бұрын
I want one doesn't matter which both look gorgeous.
@bHBullet2 жыл бұрын
gotta say as a sur ron owner i love the look of the talaria and kind of want to buy one (or atleast buy the frame and swap everything over if possible), slight change in the frame design looks beautiful and battery cover minimizing all the exposed area to the top of the battery. battery cable is a great idea but with the sur ron being a somewhat popular ebike to mod and already having a wide selection of custom batteries, not being able to use my 72v battery in it is a deal breaker because of the connector. :(
@ssrc161172 жыл бұрын
same
@epicskidude31292 жыл бұрын
Can’t you just swap connections
@bHBullet2 жыл бұрын
@@epicskidude3129 if the cable harness is the same as the sur rons then it would be possible to just use the harness from the sur ron to swap that cable. Seeing as its a different motor i'd assume they might also be using a different harness with different connections there as well. I wouldn't trust myself soldering a new connector on it with the amount of power going through them, don't want a flame throwing timebomb between my legs if I were to mess up and not know about it until its too late.
@Thrillowatt2 жыл бұрын
just cut and redo the connectors
@ssrc161172 жыл бұрын
@@Thrillowatt nice
@decan_843 Жыл бұрын
Gotta cut the speed limiter in the Sur Ron. It can go closer to 70 when you cut it
@jadenwilliams2863 Жыл бұрын
U mean 40😂🤦♂️🤦♂️
@JJulin-ub2jv2 жыл бұрын
We need to get a Surron crew out together in the Midwest! Going to get one ordered soon before they’re all gone!
@MincedOnion2 жыл бұрын
I’m in Iowa where are you at
@VaughnMalecki2 жыл бұрын
Michigan here. Talaria ordered last week.
@OregonMotorcycle2 жыл бұрын
Coming out of Oregon with my Talaria 😊👊
@sk843v3rr2 жыл бұрын
I’m in Wisconsin planning on buying one this spring.
@skrrtfranklin2 жыл бұрын
Midwest channel in Indiana coming soon , but I’m actually a skateboarder and crazy athletic , adrenaline junkie !! So you gunna seee a diff side of how to ride a E bike :p haha 😛 Lego with the work I do - goals to start making 5-10grand a week so only a matter of time before I get one !!! 🤠🌞🎒📦🙌🏻👍🏻🤙🏻❤️🔥😛👋🏻👍🏻🤙🏻 I need to figure out , how I can get a sur ron that goes 60 or above mph or how to modify it though ! I need more than 45mph …. I think 😝 I know there’s a ebike coming or out after the light bee but idk if I like that look , if I saw it right it looked more like a dirt bike and not it’s own machine
@ebikezilla13832 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you very much for it. Just a side note the power increase significantly on the Talaria after 4-5 battery cycles. Also, the OEM gearing as you tried (44T) is a little bit taller than Sur-Ron. With the equivalent sprocket ratio the peak power of the Talaria is higher from 0-30 but over this speed the Sur-Ron have a little bit more snap we agree especially on throttle response.
@OregonMotorcycle2 жыл бұрын
I thought mine was feeling a lil quicker after a few cycles ;)
@rwolfcastle2 жыл бұрын
Psttt.. ninja ship my Talaria. I won't tell anyone 🙂
@thefreshlemon61202 жыл бұрын
Can you say this in a way I can understand 🤣 I didn't want to get a Talaria because of the snap, but if it goes away then I still am down to get it.
@ebikezilla13832 жыл бұрын
@@OregonMotorcycle I looked your videos and i am 99% sure your bike have the old programmation. You should confirm with your dealer because the update we did improve it a lot. All the 2021 need to be reprogrammed by the dealer (look if you have N or M in your VIN (M =2021 and N = 2022). You can send us your controller if you want and we will dot the update for you. I am even sure the Talaria in this video is not updated too otherwise you wouldn't see much difference with the Sur-Ron. It would be more snappy from 0-20 and then very similar but we all agree here that at high speed the Talaria have a little bit less throttle response.
@geluidsbox91952 жыл бұрын
@@ebikezilla1383 Will the acceleration curve of the Talaria be reprogrammed soon as well, to match more the Surron curve? Currently as Surronster says it's very snappy at the beginning, but after that it loses that snap real quick.
@MW-jm8qb Жыл бұрын
I’m confused at what models are new and what’s outdated. I just watched a video from 3 mo. ago on surron models and they listed the LBX, ultra bee, and storm bee F. They made no mention of the surron x.
@synthrx12Ай бұрын
surron x is the light bee, just renamed
@neverdie67542 жыл бұрын
It's literally my dream to get this bike. I'm going to work hard to get this one.
@hurbsgaming2 жыл бұрын
When does the sur ron come out?
@Joey_l222 жыл бұрын
What is the best Electric dirtbike for beginners
@powamoto2 жыл бұрын
Very fair comparison utilizing the point 👉👈👇👏👍system
@dh_filip6242 жыл бұрын
Sur ron always wins!!
@OlSkoolAJ Жыл бұрын
Surron or RCR for street riding only?
@robgoffroad2 жыл бұрын
I'd get the Talaria only because the horn sounds better. :-p
@tasnar28482 жыл бұрын
i mean fair enough
@mtbridernavid37862 жыл бұрын
I will take talaria cause it is taller
@riley77boardlonging2 жыл бұрын
The Talaria was cheaper shipped by almost 200$ for me to florida
@teodorrusnac27773 ай бұрын
I hope u know the police in Florida doesnt really like e-bikes. (they usually tow them)
@powamoto2 жыл бұрын
Biggest fan Powamoto in the house so I brought all these thumbs ups for ya 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🚀
@Aydesy2 жыл бұрын
10 days ago i commented that you need to make this video at would you look at that! Great video dude much love was stoked for this video!
@jfox110002 жыл бұрын
Only thing that matters to riders will be wheelies , how many miles you can take it , how fast it goes , and how well it does two tracking !
@nate5land2 жыл бұрын
That was a legitimate review. Thanks so much! Also, the Sur Ron had me at wheelies better.
@AahilXX0922 жыл бұрын
do a full in depth review of the talaria string
@Nicsiq2 жыл бұрын
Let's go brother! Great VID again!
@briansumner8002 жыл бұрын
You gotta take the point off for the horn
@MrSechelt2 жыл бұрын
Lol ya not biased at all , the name of the channel has Sur Ron in it . Talaria wins hands down.
@MincedOnion2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video to drop
@gamerdude11442 жыл бұрын
Hi love your vids i just started watching You and im addicted
@Bacon6762 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting to see what's up with the talaria motor and gearbox. I'm more interested in when ko-tech gets you that big new motor and controller
@aa-vn7ri2 жыл бұрын
Talaria owners group worldwide post March 16 "we are working with the factory on a 8kw setup and also a new power combo with up to 12kw peak power. "
@Bacon6762 жыл бұрын
@@aa-vn7ri I know the output power is rated the same, because the actual BLDC motor inside the gearbox assembly is identical. I'm more interested in the durability of the gearsets inside the transmission, versus the tried and true (yet clunky) sur Ron setup with the jackshaft and chain drive conversion
@easyheimer2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro! My Talaria comes in towards the end of the month.
@kevinnashskitchen35172 жыл бұрын
Gotta say.. The sur ron seat height is much more beginner or vertically challenged friendly .. And weight is a big deal too.
@ayeketchup2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the throttle, its pretty jerky on sport mode but with this vid I chose the talaria. its been really fun so far.
@joseandrade6727 Жыл бұрын
what are laws to be aware of with this ebike? license required?
@ayeketchup Жыл бұрын
@@joseandrade6727 it’s in the gray area for now. no license or registration because it’s an electric bike. surron and talaria can be equipped with a pedal kit which makes it a bicycle with “pedal assist”. I ride on the streets 53-45mph mostly and never been bothered by the cops.
@yoo-12 Жыл бұрын
@@ayeketchup how old are you? I’m 13 so like should I get one or wait till I’m like 15 or older?
@rabbithole8592 Жыл бұрын
@@yoo-12 16
@Fadeclippers2 жыл бұрын
Man thank u Im gonna do a build on my sur Ron coming in next week
@one_spicyboi73762 жыл бұрын
The real point here is that you could get either, both are great.
@rosen12 Жыл бұрын
Having one of these would be so cool I have always wanted one
@icethedog6895 Жыл бұрын
@SurRonster do an updated version with a 72v battery for the talaria because that would help so many people
@mrmr36212 жыл бұрын
I never even knew that headsets could have spacers on the bottom ,idk how that works with the bearing races , and the bottom is where all the leverage from the front wheel stoping is going to expend the most force like a crowbar
@javiertorres54682 жыл бұрын
I just placed an order with Luna Cycle for a Sur Ron X. I made sure to give you a shout out in my emails with Luna! I’ve been searching for a fun outdoor hobby and the KZbin algorithm gods pulled through. Cheers!
@iid3ceiver2 жыл бұрын
Bro I know you love Sur Ron but, you are the best e-bike youtuber out there , I'd love if you started racing other e-bikes as a mean to compare them to the Sur Ron and not only e mountain bike but other type of e-bikes. That would help a lot of ppl like me who are undecisive on certain models . There is not enough of unbias review out there . other then that love your content bro keep it going.
@nightskyimages29772 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to get one hopefully I can pay one of I'm so in love with these bikes 🏍
@janglewonblin935 Жыл бұрын
I like the surron mph gauge better, if you crash it’s more slim to the frame and isn’t sticking out, just bought a surron!
@alexthebiggest2372 жыл бұрын
Can taria upgrade its controller to bac4000 or bac8000!!! Great video and i prefer Sur Ron 🤪🔥🔥
@aa-vn7ri2 жыл бұрын
Talaria owners worldwide group post March 16 "we are working with the factory on a 8kw setup and also a new power combo with up to 12kw peak power. "
@4202 жыл бұрын
Very well done, dude. Doing big things with the review. Great job.
@jayryan74732 жыл бұрын
If the Talaria really wants to compete with the sur ron it needs a 72 volt battery, not a 60v. Then again maybe it doesn't make that much of a difference on a real world track scenario which we unfortunately didn't see here.
@محمدمحمد-د5ك3ص2 жыл бұрын
You idiot, they will see better 60 volts equal to 80 volts than Talaria!
@MUDHD2 жыл бұрын
it would be nice if you could make a new video on the Talaria. Also because the problem of jerky acceleration you say was present only on some of the first models sent to America
@justin3057 Жыл бұрын
I AM A HUGE FAN I LOVE WATCHING YOUR VIDS KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK
@BrettDavis5142 жыл бұрын
Great video showing some key differences. Interesting point about the price though. Here in Canada the Talaria is significantly cheaper than the surron by about $750 CAD. I sold my surron last year and decided to try the talaria based on the price and minor upgrades. We'll see how it goes once I get it.
@newleaseonlife26012 жыл бұрын
Same here just got one! Hopefully will get it beginning of April
@newleaseonlife26012 жыл бұрын
Where did you order from ?
@OregonMotorcycle2 жыл бұрын
@@newleaseonlife2601 I ordered mine from Amped Bikes. Took 5 days. 4600 delivered.
@residualboulders2 жыл бұрын
whats the verdict?
@AuRowe Жыл бұрын
@@residualboulders RiP
@KettlesVids2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a talaria a couple weeks ago and I love it! I love the Sur Ron as well but went with the talaria because it sits higher, I liked the throttle snap and that it's beefier. But really, you can't go wrong with either bike! I still need to put it through it's paces and see what I really think down the road but I just can't wait to ride. Winter in Utah needs to be over!
@zacklemon41952 жыл бұрын
yeah, live in Utah my self. winter came back like 5 times but it just needs to be done.
@KettlesVids2 жыл бұрын
@@zacklemon4195 Amen! haha I'm ready for warm weather. Where do you like to ride? I'm up in Utah County.
@zacklemon41952 жыл бұрын
@@KettlesVids Same. I like to just cruz around the neighborhood or go to the nearby park and hit the jumps in the woods and ride where i'm not supposed to.. I'm up in AF and its pretty good here in Utah.
@KettlesVids2 жыл бұрын
@@zacklemon4195 I know the exact place you are talking about. I used to play paintball there… fun stuff! You should check out the trails up on the mountain in cedar hills.
@residualboulders2 жыл бұрын
@@KettlesVids How are you liking the talaria for mtn riding? Considering getting one for technical mtn trails here in WY. Curious on range and if I need to be looking at swapping a sprocket for steep mtn trails where you want crawl more than speed
@hawwowhiwwaw41352 жыл бұрын
What kind of license do you need for the Talaria Sting if you know it?
@wadafup2 жыл бұрын
With the racespec seat on surron you can sit right on top of the battery cover
@LabMotorsports Жыл бұрын
i had the same complaint about the touchiness of the talaria but keeping it in eco helps with that when off roading but street use sport is fine
@wheels.32392 жыл бұрын
I got my Talaria!!!. Keep the great vids coming mate. Hey from Australia.
@V._velo2 жыл бұрын
every video u make it makes me want to buy one so bad T-T
@Userr06112 жыл бұрын
Hey man good video :)
@mauchu72 жыл бұрын
Surron is the og. Talaria designer look at surron and improve everything they can. Surron lbx has good run for all these years and inspire bikes like talaria to exists and compete in the same price bracket. That alone worth lots of points to surron lbx imo 😝
@donraggo7711 ай бұрын
That was a really phat in depth review my dude, still can't afford neither :D
@zeroboyrick17172 жыл бұрын
Hopefully a larger rear sprocket on the Talaria will help give it more mid range. I was under the impression Talaria had a 48 tooth sprocket like the Sur-Ron but it came with a 44 tooth. I have a Warp9 52 tooth I will be installing. My heart sank a little when you said it was hard to wheelie, isn't that a big factor in why we buy these things? I've seen Sur-Rons bashed beyond belief and still going strong. The Talaria has a lot to live up to.
@randyraptor7915 Жыл бұрын
Definitely love my Segway x260 black addition, but never rode the talaria bike yet but i can say looks make a difference and i love the look of the Segway x260 and wheelies?..yes segaway is good for that too
@alternatevolts67782 жыл бұрын
The new front fork for the sur Ron is AMAZING. very close in performance to the better forks out there.
@surronsd2 жыл бұрын
He also gave wrong info, on forks… talaria does not come with KKE you can get dnm volcanos but after riding all three (RST, KKE, and DNM) the KKE was the best of the three forks.
@alternatevolts67782 жыл бұрын
@@nxdboi i rode fox 40s before and the new sur ron fork actually stacks up pretty great to it. (i know sounds crazy) but the design of the fork is whats doing it justice. an inverted fork is the better type of fork for a sur ron
@alternatevolts67782 жыл бұрын
@@nxdboi i had the volcano. it was a great fork. put it this way. it setup the fox 40s out of the box. put air in it and all that and i bottomed out on the fox 40s before i bottomed out on the kkes out of the box. i was blown away on how little of a difference the fox 40s did for the sur ron. it was a brand new 2022 model as well. on the road the fox 40s were more stable but on the jumps the fox 40s were just as good as any fork. mtb forks arent made for the sur ron weight so until someone develops forks or i put on a dirt bike fork i wont have the preformace im looking for. thats why i say kke is close because it does the job without bottoming out on the jumps to much and im pretty sure when i get moto wheels again itll feel just as stable as my last bike.(my last bike had a fox 40 and moto wheels. i have a new stock bike now). i never rode the manitou fork so i cant say whats that like. i would imagine its better than the fox 40s and i never compared the kkes to the manituo either
@FilmingWithJay2 жыл бұрын
YOUR VIDS ARE AWSOME WATCH THEM ALL THE TIME YOUR AWSOME🔥💯
@MexieyVR2 жыл бұрын
Hello i am from Danmark and i have seen tour vids in 2 days and i love your videos ;D
@miguel360kmc2 жыл бұрын
Its the same horn on both bikes. No points. The way the bike looks its is subjective (although i agree with you) No points The start button is a BIG safety feature 🙌 so point to the Talaria.
@InfinitelyQurious2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely detailed review. Can anyone elaborate more on the Sur-Ron belt-drive or gear box problems. This is the first I've heard of it.
@fromtheflightdeck2522 жыл бұрын
No problem with Sur Ron belts at all. It's a bit noisier, which I like, that whine sound. And it will need replacing after 2 or 3 years. Really..its not an issue as it's easy to change one. My Sur Ron is fantastic and I just published my Top 7 Mods video.
@OregonMotorcycle2 жыл бұрын
I got my Talaria for 4600 delivered in 5 days.
@aa-vn7ri2 жыл бұрын
amped bikes in UT=Good Folks!
@saskwotch197642 жыл бұрын
Sur Ron really need to update the Light Bee. More power, better battery, wider swingarm, battery plug, improved Jack shaft/design or gearbox would be great to see. But will they EVER update it?!
@MrPikaPika2 жыл бұрын
talaria sting goes for 4,600 now
@lajzdan Жыл бұрын
The talaria sting mx3 is on Luna cycles for only 3990 which is almost 600 bucks cheaper than the Surron now
@mzinns2 жыл бұрын
Best comparo I've seen on these 2 bikes. As a new Sur Ron owner, I have no complaints and no desire to get something else. Such a great value......my cousin recently purchased a E-MTB with 250 watt pedal assist for over $5000 used.
@jlove242 жыл бұрын
How fast is it, range?
@hawkeire2414 Жыл бұрын
@@jlove24 I had in my shop the Turbo LEVO SL 240watts €7,000 one of the best EMTB of 2022. Pedal assisted Max speed is 25kph, range depends of body size and what mode you use. Most of my guests used turbo, Off road in the alps with some steep climbs range was about 20km for them some got longer out of it, I think max range is about 40km if you use the modes correctly.. These bikes are not designed to cover 100km the whole point of the Ebike is you have the battery there to help you when you are tired or steep part of the trail comes along and you are not fit enough top get up on your own power. Most of my guests would need the SUR RON to get them around the trails lmao.
@ABCDEFGHIJKELA...2 жыл бұрын
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@mortengulsvik55772 жыл бұрын
i like how the iphone case is just steding the talaria
@VeryRetadred4 ай бұрын
is this still valid in 2024? The talaria sting mx3 is 3400 and surron is like 4800 at luna and both have gotten upgrades including talaria throttle
@c2thew1562 жыл бұрын
$500 difference is a huge deal. That is like 8 points. Funny thing is that the surronster razor rsf650 kit is faster than the surron.
@MHF_H2 жыл бұрын
stock EM Escape VS your mod Sur Ron X
@adamf.85642 жыл бұрын
Do you need a driver's license for these?
@youngdannyaye2 жыл бұрын
Suronster in the A lets goooo, pulling up to bike craze soon!
@rwolfcastle2 жыл бұрын
Was the controller updated on the Talaria for the throttle map? Not sure they're updating them at the factory but I know vendors like ebikezilla are updating the controllers to correct the throttle before shipping.
@ferdtheterd38972 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing!! I decided I was getting a Talaria instead of a surron yesterday
@MarcShorty232 жыл бұрын
You should do a comparison vs the Falcon3k, Falcon5k or Falcon8k 🔥😊👍
@joeriveracomedy2 жыл бұрын
Watching this vid has inspired me to get a helmet...and a Sur ron.
@Kumari_442 жыл бұрын
I think the battery cover actually makes the talaria look better, you know 👀
@PhiTonics2 жыл бұрын
Can the throttle curve be adjusted later theoretically?
@ridelife31652 жыл бұрын
Love u from CAMBODIA bro 🇰🇭 ❤🥰
@huslentuguldur3605 Жыл бұрын
Wich one do you prefer?
@truesightgrabber Жыл бұрын
which one suits more for tall people ?
@Arcarctic2 жыл бұрын
Bruh that stand for the talaria tho 0:03
@benbelman69842 жыл бұрын
Comparison for seat comfort would of been nice. I know the Sur Ron has a fairly hard seat. How is the Talaria's seat?
@joshdobson46852 жыл бұрын
My talaria seat is so comfy I can ride for hours and still feel comfortable
@Mayhemjach2 жыл бұрын
Good job dude. Yeah, the throttle curve is crazy. I was doing a wheelie out of every turn on that race Sunday
@surronsan31932 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us more about the overheating issues of the TALARIA in the Hawaii Endurofest?
@roboticvenom19352 жыл бұрын
change the egar ratio in settings goofy
@magz47242 жыл бұрын
Do you need a driver's license for these? My grandson doesn't have an driver's license yet but would love this!!
@marvinm46762 жыл бұрын
The Talaria is still taller than the Surron?
@lastnamefirstname3787 Жыл бұрын
i have a question would the sur ron be good for a 6ft rider? and i love your vids bro keep it up