The Best E-Moto Controllers of 2024!

[@ethangilad-sw3vk]

You guys should also do a video on the best lower priced controller, battery, and motor

[@RoyaLineage]

Econiccycles Fardriver ND72680B, QS165 V2 encoder motor, Amorge 72V 33AH 200A battery. Looking at around $1500ish for everything.

[@mikaveli_98]

@@RoyaLineagewaste of a battery

[@Talaria_dude]

No such thing pal 😂

[@kalvinsmall3843]

All controllers r expensive 😂

[@kalvinsmall3843]

Lower price $20😂

[@WatchYaGitten]

Yeah, I couldn't be happier with how great nucular customer support was for me! Great video guys! I was just telling a buddy about you guys today lol

[@chrishodgson2247]

You guys are performing a great service to e-moto riders. Earned a sub from me! If I could purchase products from you I would. (In Australia) Keep up the great content 🤙

[@Talariaboys]

Much appreciated!

[@TechLineHD]

Finally, a new video! I was worried. Thanks, guys!

[@Talariaboys]

❤️

[@garthhewson4798]

Great video. I just received the torp tc1000 for the ultra bee. Very impressed. With the latest firmware, you can pull 19.3kw from the factory battery. * massive improvement over stock* Love all the factory buttons working and so adjustable

[@Talariaboys]

sweet!

[@robertmccaleb1400]

You guys will be around for a long time I can’t believe some of the questions on Ebmx face book these guys want to understand tire ergonomics per size to get top end

[@livefastshredfaster6987]

Im running TC1000 with the new EBMX 82v battery and I've had zero issues, insane performance on a Light Bee

[@roryharness2379]

Really Good info so many people will benefit from video! Not sure if you have tried it but Torp has a Stock Brake sensor regen option (only controller i am aware of) and IMO it is way more intuitive and natural than a thumb throttle but it isn't dynamic which is a downside but its a good included option at no extra charge 👍

[@sgveriders]

great video guys! thanks for my warp 9 stem lock!

[@Talariaboys]

🙌🙌🫡

[@bronyx_dan]

Just the info I needed. Thank you!!

[@Talariaboys]

Glad it was helpful!

[@robertmccaleb1400]

Yes I am excited please be patient

[@ShawverFilms]

Another epic video!! Great info as always! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@Talariaboys]

🤙

[@WatchYaGitten]

I just got a 2024 mx4, which definitely has changed from the 2023 model. And then I slapped the nucular controller on it and it's showing I'm hitting over 12.1kw on it! I'd definitely say it's impressive for the cost! I just don't like that 10second shut off in mode 3 lol

[@Talariaboys]

lol. it is a big improvement

[@MarkFries-o7n]

Great content as usual

[@TheTexasDuke]

Ebmx 9000 yes can be difficult on the install. Customer service is amazing though! It’s a lot to squeeze in, but it’s completely worth it. The Ebmx 9000 is the best on the market

[@Talariaboys]

for sure

[@x0jamiex0]

Now we need motor comparison ebmx vs Torp

[@nikpkov]

Hello, you guys should make a video on how to wire an off-switch to the tail lights on these e motos

[@robertmccaleb1400]

Yes I love too see your smile lance we love you

[@Hazerz]

looking to know the best battery with the ebmx for the surron light be, the best power I could get

[@Talariaboys]

The new XBMX 80v 45ah is a great option

[@JaiHaze]

@@Talariaboys Thank You

[@robertmccaleb1400]

Yes everything you lance are the stuff and please keep up the good work and yes I’m right here

[@kopparsulfat]

Good video as usual. 👌

[@roxythorphotography]

Nice build guys Love my surron. But heck those builds are nice

[@Talariaboys]

Thanks 👍

[@galvinyt9137]

You guys should do a review on the new falcon with the new motor and suspension

[@justinhathaway6564]

Ok, here's a question-- maybe the biggest/best/hardest... Given that most people think the stark varg is just the killer electric setup, enough to even hang with the 4-stroke 450s, and at around $14k, what bike/battery/controller/motor combination would you build for 14k that could most closely compete with a stark? I assume a wheel and tire/suspension upgrade would be in order, too? Could it compare at that price limit? 😅 (I ask because I used to have a KTM 450 and miss it dearly...) 😢 Thanks in advance! Love the channel!

[@codybeez9504]

They are two completely different animals man even a fully upgraded eride/talaria/ surron. The stark is going to handle and ride like an electric 450 while it carries it well it weighs 40 “ish” lbs more than a new ktm 450. The other listed e motos will feel a little bit more like a mtb on steroids (160-180lbs fully modded). If you’re looking to shred some local trails, maybe a mini moto track, or rip around the neighborhood I’d stick with the smaller ones. if you’ve got a group of dudes you ride with that do longer technical trail riding or spend days at the track I’d go with the stark. Some people’s opinions may differ of course but hopefully this helps ya out 🤙

[@justinhathaway6564]

@@codybeez9504 Thanks for your advice and expertise, bro!

[@Talariaboys]

well said!

[@kolopier]

I think torp are the most quality ones.

[@sergiosalamanca6710]

when are the talariaboys getting a stark varg?👀

[@Talariaboys]

We will try one very soon👀 next video is going to be crazy

[@justinhathaway6564]

YES! (See my question above...)

[@Thewatched1lol]

Thank you

[@JustMoto_15]

When will you make a video on the 81v and install

[@Talariaboys]

Soon, it’s on the way

[@Bengy22]

​@@Talariaboys You should revisit the top speed run with it

[@Talariaboys]

We definitely will!

[@surron_sefi]

Torp on top

[@shebati8645]

Have you guys checked out the E&C ETM XL?

[@Talariaboys]

we should try one!

[@BrassStacks]

Since you can program your own settings with these, do you think there would be a benefit to making a Hill Climb mode? Maybe keep the torque high but the wheel speed limited. I only ask because having the torque is great, but having 50mph or so of wheelspin can be a wild ride. I'm so used to a clutch that it could just be me, but it seems like it might work. Also, would it be possible to map a clutch feeling when you squeezed a "clutch" lever?

[@AustinPaolillo]

Perfect timing as my MX3 controller just took a shit.

[@monKiBoomin]

What happened? I bought a brand new mx3 in march and love it out the box, just got new tires

[@AustinPaolillo]

@monKiBoomin rode in the lightest sprinkle. So pissed. Barely even got wet, just enough to leak into the stock controller, though. They seriously need to waterproof these controllers asap.

[@EmotoTheWorld]

MX4 #1

[@bigkick86]

Personal experience says as soon as you want MORE POWER (controller) you need to ALREADY be in the mindset of replacing the motor" while you figure out batteries.. you WILL eventually need to replace the motor before you have a NEED for a battery or further upgraded controller. I stress the word need! 😉

[@Talariaboys]

Not true, Always upgrade your battery before your motor.

[@Liamd__27]

Do you guys know if you'll ever be able to ship to Canada?

[@Talariaboys]

yes we may be able to soon!

[@kopparsulfat]

I would like a Torp controller for my Talaria sting r, but i have the Scud battery so it will not improve anything in my case.

[@kscoran]

Question, any motor overheating issues on the the Ultra Bee If you add an X9000 ? Single tracking in the mountains in hot weather ?

[@onceuponareset-ho7fg]

What is the wisdom behind the regenerative braking on the e-motto's, and why do we not see the re-gen brakes on e-MTB's?

[@DaCreepNextDoor]

From my experience it’s a few things: 1st and IMO the biggest, it saves wear in your brakes. Brakes degrade so heavily on these emotos, being as heavy as they are, so the regen braking reduces a lot of the wear there. 2nd, it can give you some more range. It’s not massive, but it can make a slight difference!

[@Talariaboys]

it does not give you much extra range. its mainly there to help you slow down. with an upgraded controller and battery you can lock up the back wheel with the regen lever.

[@robmccabe8736]

First. Off awesome video, thank you for the information. My question is, does my stock battery with the stock motor will it run out faster with the torp 500? See. I do a lot of single track trail riding. I 0:08 get about 50 km. And I can have about 50 to 40% battery left. I'm just wondering if it would be the same with that controller. Thank you. I got the m x four

[@unboxtheworld5869]

It would not be the same unless you tune the controller to do the exact same thing your current stock controller is doing which in that case the new controller would make no difference and be pointless. The entire point of getting a aftermarket controller is to be able to push more power from the battery to the motor which in turn makes you go faster but in doing so will drain your battery faster than if you had a stock tune

[@Talariaboys]

if you tell it to use more power it will drain the battery faster.

[@unboxtheworld5869]

@@Talariaboys why wasn't the ko Moto controller in the most recent video? I know you guys bought a ko nano awhile ago but I have never seen them mentioned since then.

[@boijaden123]

Hey, I just got my talaria sting R a few days ago and I'm loving it. Is it okay to hold the throttle fully pinned for a long time? Is it okay to change the regen while moving?

[@Talariaboys]

yes both are okay 👍

[@boijaden123]

@@Talariaboys is it possible to over fill the gear box with oil? I put the whole 90ml bottle of oil that comes with the bike in there and it was really full.

[@robertmccaleb1400]

Oh it’s like can I go fast with a 17 set up or go even faster with a 18 or 19 and yes because it’s rotating with 8kw now it’s going to spin faster the smaller lighter tires but you have to worry about control it is to light of a bike to go 100mp on you go airborne Xxxxxxx

[@Chazz5a]

Can I not run a tc1000 on a stock talaria sting mx4

[@salami99]

having a really hard time getting the talaria supermoto kit. I waited to buy it an now its out of stock until probably winter.

[@Talariaboys]

We will have some in stock before that. Check our website and click notify when in stock tbelectricmoto.com/products/complete-17-supermoto-wheelset-for-talaria?_pos=1&_sid=851a8c26e&_ss=r

[@salami99]

@@Talariaboys sounds good, added myself

[@jeffreywalsh817]

Is it possible to keep the brake safety (engine cuts when brakes are actuated) turned on with the Torp TC500? I don't see a simple way to toggle it in the Torp app.

[@SurFrankenRon]

Bro, where did you get the black cover for the x9000?

[@Talariaboys]

You can select it on our website

[@SurFrankenRon]

@@Talariaboys awesome thanks dude

[@SurFrankenRon]

@@Talariaboys oh its for the eride :.( Ebmx was supposed to have a 3d printed shroud that covers the x9000 controller on a surron but it's NEVER in stock

[@upthecowboys3492]

What about electro & co zapper controller is that worth it

[@Talariaboys]

We haven't tried that one so can't really say

[@upthecowboys3492]

@ if you do I will definitely be there to watch

[@RyanSnzek]

I know this doesn’t really relate to the video but on the Torp controller I’m running 12.5mw and my front wheel barely pops up for a wheelie how can I fix that? I can’t run more kws because I’d the battery.

[@mrlex89]

I live in new jersey. How much would ve shipping & taxes? And whays the difference between buying the e ride ss 2.0 from you guys vs. other places ? And keep up the videos !

[@Talariaboys]

We have standard $200 shipping. So it’s $200 + 4900 no taxes. You also get to pick out a free guts seat cover when you buy with us! tbelectricmoto.com/products/e-ride-pro-ss-2-0

[@mrlex89]

@Talariaboys I'm about 5'5 - 5'7 . Do you think the e ride 2.0 ( stock) will be too tall for me ?

[@death174128]

I am having a lot of trouble Installing the Embx 9000 on the eride pro ss 2.0. The new pos/negative wire that goes to the breaker has to be Crossed (think like a Helix) to connect to the Terminals on the EMBX 9000. The OEM has the Terminals in the opposite configuration. When I do get everything plugged in, the display turns on for a moment and says it doesnt have a battery connection. I have checked all the connections, tracked back all the wires, and all that is unplugged is a female plug with Orange, Black, and white. I am not sure what that could plug into and I dont believe it to be necessary. Do you have any advice?

[@Talariaboys]

Did you get it figured out?

[@fredericballay2118]

Hello guys, for a Rerode R1, what controller should i put to get more power ?

[@Talariaboys]

As far as we have tested the Rerode's stock battery is pretty limited so adding an upgraded controller won't really give you more power

Does the EBMX controller when installed on the surron does this controller " trick" the bms on the stock 60v like the Torp ?

[@Talariaboys]

The EBMX controller will be able to pull the same amount of power as the Torp, there actually is not tricking going on.

@@Talariaboys how so ? the 60v factory BMS as i understand it will only allow 90 amps . Don't misunderstand me i am totally asking not stating.

[@Bengy22]

Im considering purchasing a eride pro, I plan to get the x9000 as well. The Eride v2 TB electric sells does it come with Samsung 50E or 50S cells? EBMX told me it could be either and the 50S is way better for the x9000

[@Talariaboys]

i have been told from Eride that it is the 50S cells👍

[@codyfixari1556]

I know it says the torp500 is the best with stock battery for a mx4 … how much worse is the ebmx with a stock battery and how much better is the ebmx with a 72v than the torp with a 72v?

[@Talariaboys]

The torp isn’t the best, they are all equal in power numbers on a stock battery. The torp is the simplest though.

[@TheRealMime-_-]

when is the ebmx surron top speed run?

[@Talariaboys]

as soon as we get the 81V battery

[@TheRealMime-_-]

@@Talariaboys cant wait💪🏻

[@AidenZ7334]

How much did the total talaria xxx build cost with the bike?

[@Talariaboys]

around 11,500 all in!

[@AidenZ7334]

@@Talariaboys thx looks like I won’t be upgrading the bike then😂

[@Sudan_global_editing]

Hello this helped a lot can you tell me the best helmet for riding one thing is that I’m a Sikh so I have long hair and i need to put my hair in a bun so it doesn’t get in my face I wear a turban so maybe I don’t need a helmet so that’s why I need your help

[@Talariaboys]

you should definatly wear a helmet. Im not sure what helmet you can get while wearing a turban, sorry bro

[@Sudan_global_editing]

@@Talariaboys it’s ok

[@vjexxxs7198]

Yo do you ship to Croatia?

[@Talariaboys]

Sadly not

[@YohaNDaviD636]

hey

[@MikeKochjr]

You never said if any of these controllers work for the Eride. Every controller you said what bikes they work for and Eride was never mentioned.

[@CoolWatts]

X-9000 works on the E-Ride

[@Talariaboys]

Yes it does

[@shockadellick]

Will a Talaria's gear box install on the e-Ride pro SS?

[@Talariaboys]

no it wont.

[@SoyPr0stitut0]

I Don't Have Niether Of Them 😂 Just Like Watching

[@weshenry9592]

How about you talk about the controllers some time today

[@gflipping5609]

first comment!

[@Talariaboys]

W🙌

[@bigballa8220]

Hello, are you able to make a controller to top out at 750 watts?

[@AidenZ7334]

Yeah but your just throwing money for nothing

[@bigballa8220]

@@AidenZ7334 that is true, I’m thinking that maybe cuz if I get pulled over and have pedals on it. I’ll can tell the cops it’s a ebike that’s why.