Tales of the Abyss (PS2) Luke vs. Asch (Hard)

[@Paltheos]

"But if I take the Key, you won't have a weapon..." "I'll just take one from an enemy! Hurry!" "Ya sure? I could just give you the one I was using to fight you." "No, that would ruin your collection rate. You need to keep every sword you come across." "... what?" "Go!"

[@EnigmaticUniverse001]

Lol

[@SanaePrime]

In the anime Luke hands him his own scimitar and I think that was a beautiful detail, but that might be just me, I like it when a character uses another one's trademark weapon xDDDD

[@lilben4184]

SHUT UP! THIS ISNT ABOUT LOGIC

[@EvilSooYoung]

Sometimes I still wonder how the voice actor for Luke/Asch felt when he had to argue with himself in the studio to record every scene with these two. Lol

[@GrindyVine]

Even yu narukami voice actor who voiced adachi too had the same too

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

Yuri Lowenthal also does voice Ben 10 and Albedo so its just fate I guess he would argue with himself at least once.

[@Dr.SiegMostang]

@@LocalTorchwoodIntern dont forget about haseo

[@thescruffinator8830]

Wait until you see an entire platoon of clone troopers arguing with eachother in clone wars, all voiced by dee bradley baker lmao.

[@MadDragonify]

Fun fact that Guy’s voice actor had to do the same thing in Persona 4 The Animation 😂

[@salivosa]

I will make those words your last, REPLICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[@MalGK24]

Awesome line

[@dillonm.2422]

Salva i won him on unknown mode lol

[@doriane9936]

gives me the chills everytime

[@analuisagonzalez1143]

Literally hadn't thought of the game in years but when I came here that line was still clear in my head

[@asmodeus58XX]

Welcome to Club KUREAAAAAAAAA, Asch. You'll soon be joined by Stahn "LEON! LEOOOOOOOOOON!!!" Aileron, but the club will then not get another member until Berseria.

[@flyte707]

"house fabre must have very stupid genes" couldn't have said it better myself

[@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni]

That's what Asch meant he said even his replica fell for the same trap same as in Asch fell for it too because they both have house Fabre genes

[@FieryShaverdian]

To this day, I still think this is one of the most emotional 1v1s in the entire series. Ludger vs Julius is obviously pretty damn good, but the meaning (of birth) behind this particular battle is always gonna make it my favorite overall. Having your entire existence basically nullified by another version of you seems like such a frustrating and shitty thing, and at this point in the story there was no turning back from any of this. Asch was fed up with the whole situation and needed to prove himself and Luke had to do the exact same thing to prove his existence was worthwhile. Such a fucking great scene.

[@contown731]

I love the beginning scene. Asch was really just trying to make Luke believe in himself.

[@nico_m4]

When I hear Luke i hear Yosuke but when I hear Asch I hear Sasuke.

[@philipinoboy1381]

both is voiced from yuri

[@nico_m4]

I know I'm just saying that from the tone of each characters voice they remind me of the other characters that Yuri has voiced.

[@ikhwanmauaja1184]

Basically similar persona(lity)

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

I just hear Ben vs Albedo from Ben 10 lmaoo

[@Harkz0r]

"Your fight is with me, Asch--no, Luke fon Fabre! Prepare to die." Something about that proclamation seems so powerful, somehow. He spends so much of the game lamenting the loss of his former life as Luke, claiming he's just a shadow of what he was. And yet, the truth of his identity and feelings shows itself through his words and actions all the while. Perhaps in his last moments, he comes to realise and accept that he, too, is Luke. It's a relatable struggle...

[@LegendofLuigi703]

Yuri Lowenthal vs Yuri Lowenthal... HELL TO THE YES!

[@flipcamgamer]

Peter Parker and Yosuke Hanamura Vs Sasuke Uchiha and Mercury Black. The two familiar styles of Yuri Lowenthals Acting.

[@cyanrazorCel]

Talking to yourself is an underatted practice.

[@LegendofLuigi703]

Don't I know it lol

[@MewSage86]

This is one of the best fights in this game. And I love the song. Well, I loved a lot of the music from the game. One of the reasons I play the Tales series. The music is always awesome.

[@25shadow11]

3:38 "this isn't about logic" Wow, that just says it all, doesn't it...

[@yuuyou3785]

Does cold stone logic make sense out of everything ?

[@9751matt]

@@yuuyou3785 There's a difference between relying on logic and emotion for common sense, and abandoning logic completely. Most of the world's losers and idiots are people who completely abandon logic. Reality doesn't care about your feelings, so that's why people like Asch are a mess. His methods are basically "if I'm angry enough at everything I hate, things will work out"

[@yuuyou3785]

@@9751matt I don't think Ash is just blinded by his anger if he was he would try to erase Luke He hasn't abandoned logic eitherhe understand his situation well It is his situation that seems to not hold any sense to him Sense that would explain help him know what's left of him for example He is trying to make sense out of his reality which is understandable after losing his whole life Logic isn't gonna provide sense out of reality because it can merely summarize it

[@9751matt]

@@yuuyou3785 Completely incorrect. Logic allows people to stay calm and analyze situations they are in with a cool head. Anyone who hasn't abandoned logic completely can do that to at least a small degree, at least enough to help their mental state a little. Does that sound like something Asch does ever? No, because he's an over emotional man-child, and he doesn't have Luke's excuse with being technically 7 years old to fall back on. (Asch would fit right in in a CW show, there's plenty of wree'ing losers on those shows) Hell, the latter half of the game is Asch making up excuses to not see his mother and father after its public knowledge he's the original. "Oh no, its not as if families have ever had more then one child before". Yeah, Vaan stole him away from his family and had him replaced for 7 years. It sucks big time. But for a big chunk of the story he can come and go as he pleases since he's not with Vaan. He's 17, has his whole life in front of him, but now he's emo as hell and denies friendship at every single turn. Even Natalia can barely tolerate the over emotional emo-brat, and she's freakin in love with him. Asch is basically a moron, stubborn as a mule, and has a massive victim complex that supercedes his priorities to stop Vaan quickly, as shown above, as Luke is the focus of his unhealthy, overly emotional victim complex. Its unhealthy for you to relate to him at all. It's healthy to understand his emotions, but its unhealthy to relate to his "this isn't about logic" mentality.

[@yuuyou3785]

@@9751matt Logic doesn't make people calm its the opposite most of the time ppl need to be calm to use logic. You speek of logic as if its more than a thought process. Ash is 17 he is still a teenager who had his life taken away from him. I don't really get your hate for him. You talk like his emotion are out of place but you're basiclly saying he should have no emotion and just be "logic" and live as if it was an inconsequential event but is it ? Why would he return to his family ? Why make friends ? You're saying all of this because those things seems the logic thing to do but what would that do or mean at this point for him ? It's like you don't deem the fact of being replace to have any other effect on Ash than him no longer living in his home. The thing his I never said that I related to him or feel for him but you hate him why ?

[@onedayiwillbegone2366]

Tales of abyss had one of the best English VA as a JRPG. You can actually feel the character's emotions. Honkai Star Rail actually made me miss playing the Tales series and why I play it with English VA.

[@kai_s.hazaki289]

That's Yuri Lowenthal for ya

[@maknbaconpancakes9866]

I can understand why Asch is angry at Luke here. Luke represents the life Asch should have had, and he can't stand the one who stole his life to degrade himself like that. Asch deep down wants Luke to stand proudly. That way, he can in some way see what life could have been for himself. When Luke talks down about himself, it makes Asch feel like his life was stolen by someone unworthy. This causes Asch to feel that everything that was done to him was pointless. I also think it's extra sad that they both don't know that the other is dying. "Now is all the time I have" has so much more meaning than both of them realize. Both of them are reaching for meaning in their last moments, yet the weight of their words are so much heavier than both of them realize 😭

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

From my understanding, it's not so much that Luke "stole" Asch's life from him, but in part that he's having a hard time grasping that Luke is his own person and not just merely his replica. Asch, from what I know of his character, tends to look down on replicas and views them as less than human because they were essentially clones of people who already exist, and because of this, he thinks Luke should be more like him, which is why his criticisms of Luke are often so biting. While he is angry at Luke for taking away the life he could've had, he also can't except that Luke, being a replica, is actually growing and developing as a person, and cannot understand why, partly because Asch doesn't have people who are willing to support him and help him better himself in the same way Luke has with the rest of the party; in this regard, it makes him feel even more like a failure, and it frustrates him to know that his replica is succeeding where he failed. In that sense, he wants Luke to own up to him becoming a better person and acknowledge the growth he's experienced, he knows that Luke DESERVES better than him for what he was able to accomplish where Asch himself, the original, failed, and because of this, rather he acknowledges it or not, this is why he can't stand to see Luke putting himself down the way he has been since he decided to try to become a better person

[@asadelfadillah8008]

I only know this game from its anime, but have to say, I love how they used a more "melancholic" (is that the right term here?) version of the Opening to emphasize this fight between Yuri Lowenthal (Luke) and Yuri Lowenthal (Asch)

[@SlussBus]

Haha, the lag.. I hate how it has to lag during those intense moments, but it's pretty funny.

[@CheezVT]

4:14 Asch, it's too early for Thanksgiving. There's no need to bring the Glazed Ham.

[@Rivenbound]

This needs more likes, that's hillarious

[@ipadgaming6523]

I dont get it -_-

[@shadowsage1374]

basically he made it sound as if luke said that and 4:14 is asch's response ^.^ made me laugh

[@lunarSoul0]

I love fights like this and it's easily one of my Favorites.

[@Greil9]

9:06 Anyone else got the impression that Asch had the same condition as Luke and he knew he was also going to die no matter what?

[@Voidy592]

Well said, I will make this theory your last, GREEEEEIL.

[@Greil9]

*cue fight, and you lose, leading to your death* Yea, turns out quoting the one who's gonna lose the fight isn't such a great idea.

[@Voidy592]

Thats my luck :(

[@Greil9]

It was? Must have missed that, along with the fact that it was sometimes hard to understand their fantasy science.

[@TheHamborambo]

Greil9 he was also helping luke in the tower of rem, which also made his fonons start to seperate

[@LOREWITHBLAZER]

Yuri lowenthal did a impressive job

[@KimonoFlareonGX]

Yuri Lowenthal must have had a _baaaaad_ day as he was recording Asch’s lines.

[@DonaldDuck97.]

Such a shame Asch is not playable for ever and this is the last time we see him. :( I mean, i love Luke...but having Luke and Asch together in the same team would have been sick! Also top voice acting for both (specially Asch)

[@jannalyzer3944]

The most memorable scen of tales series i will ever have 😎

[@Starrku]

Love how Asch has the same VA as Hanamura Yosuke :D

[@jjeebo2563]

I think asch was giving luke a pep talk trying to build confidence

[@ipadgaming6523]

How can everybody dodge the hole but luke dont? Its paranoiding me for years after i beat the game

[@Gameboynitro]

Like Asch said" House Fabre must have very stupid genes"

[@eddrickwilbert7315]

Justin Harris yes,even he falls down on that hole

[@921Ether]

yeah, this whole segment is badly written. they really should've thought of another way to bring luke and asch together

[@jimmyjeff1777]

@@921Ether still the fight itself makes up for it

[@Lethargy514]

@@921Ether Technically this is a way to bring them together. Make them genetically stupid, which to their credit, both Asch and Luke are very stupid hotheads so it does work I guess.

[@jyojitsukikage4508]

After finishing Arise and watching this I still view this game as the better game. Also the last 3 modern Tales of games have a weird tendency to undermine and down play their music by lowering the music volume so much their muted whenever characters speak in battle and since they always talk you never get to enjoy the music.

[@RadiantEdge027]

Any other Tales game is better than Arise.

[@mindstate613]

@@RadiantEdge027 really? Thats disgusting

[@danielsalazar162]

I swear they should have made a part 2 of this

[@jaoskillz]

The BGM for TOA is just lovely

[@LOREWITHBLAZER]

This is such an underrated game

[@d8upa]

Really don't see why Luke couldn't swap weapons with Asch, but okay.

[@Neostarkp]

well in the anime they swapped the weapons,but yeah u are right, that it makes no sense that they dont just swap weapons.

[@cynicalnitro8416]

And Asch is a caster so why he didn't just kill everyone makes no sense. Then he wouldn't have gotten stabbed.

[@lnsflare1]

I think the bigger question is, "Why didn't they just hyperresonance the door down?"

[@strawhat8070]

Was just going to write this

[@adas2051]

Christopher Charan “Shut up, this isn’t about logic!”

[@DatAsuna]

Shame Luke couldn't just give Asch one of the 50 swords in his inventory. lol

[@quatreiquorizawa9885]

Wow... this game feels cool. Is it on PS3 also? Love the voice and the touch of the background music during the conversation and fight scene

[@philipinoboy1381]

Quatrei Quorizawa no. its out for ps2 and 3DS. maybe pc is your able to emulate it

[@vonn8092]

explosion makes the frame rate drop balls

[@one.million.flowers]

5:58 "huh-huh-idiot-idiot-uh-AH-UH-AH-UAH-IDIOT"

[@adamwang6778]

Hi,I'm playing this game now. Can you tell me how to let other two person Auto-Battle too? Thanks！

[@Zxcas]

I feel those frame drops

[@nightmarishcompositions4536]

I think Abyss has the best story, Legendia has the best characters and Graces has the best battle system.

[@Iychoenk]

How about berseria?

[@QurenTheShield]

@@Iychoenk Berseria is also my favorite, tied with abyss. Velvet was just amazing. And the rest of the cast too.

[@Adam_U]

Zestiria had the best, uh... Zestiria existed!

[@iantaakalla8180]

Zestiria had the best backstory.

[@nightmarishcompositions4536]

@@iantaakalla8180 I think Zestiria has great funny banter between the characters and it became a much better game after Berseria was released because they both complement each other's stories really well.

[@slossboss]

Imagine if Asch and Luke were actual brothers...twins...this would be even more tragic.

[@deveor9338]

theorically they are ;-; more twin than twins

[@cynicalnitro8416]

Anyone else try to use Luke's mystic arte against asch just to have him pull his out on you?

[@hibiki8473]

Admingly no because i always killed asch with it

[@cynicalnitro8416]

@@hibiki8473 I'd cast mine and he'd cast his just after the name of mine faded.

[@hibiki8473]

@@cynicalnitro8416 yeah from what I've read unless you kill him with it he will cast his

[@tman229]

Luke: But if I take the key, you won't have a weapon... Asch: I'll just take one from an enemy! Go!! Me : Or I could of just lent one of my spare second strongest weapons from the inventory.... You probably would of had a better chance surviving that fight then.

[@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni]

Hmm trying to remember if the 3DS version had lag nvm just saw it pretty sure I would've remembered that too bad they took out the vocals to the song in the intro

[@superanimeniac]

in my experience, the only lag in the 3ds port is in some of the bigger world map areas like the swamp or canyons.

[@cynicalnitro8416]

when you're whoopin someone's ass so bad that you'd normally knock them into last week but the game only has a 12 hour story so it has to slow down.

[@ringote2]

How to get the sword ultimatus?

[@Greil9]

You need to beat the 3 Sword Dancer bosses throughout the game. I can't remember most of their loctions so you have to google that.

[@ringote2]

Greil9 thanks

[@Greil9]

I do remember one being in that castle that used to be Luke's familys vacation home, maybe Choral Castle. Second one I think was a search-point looking thing near Grand Chockmah. Forgot the third. Remember they all have cut-off points after which you can't fight that Sword Dancer and the whole quest fails. though I think the 3rd one had no cutoff

[@thegodofmanyvoices4810]

+Greil9 The third one is at the Isle of Feris after the cutscene about Hod.

[@philipinoboy1381]

instant death if you fuck up, but it gives loads of xp

[@BirdieImagineeBCH]

This game looks great. This scene is way better than Xillia as a whole.

[@DigimonVids]

imaginee ur nuts

[@Royed]

This honestly needs to be updated with an animated version. This is too heavy to be give lifeless animations. (Granted it was the height of it's time when released)

[@AnakinTheWeird]

It was. They made the game into a full anime.

[@Phyllion-]

​@@AnakinTheWeird I think they meant in-game animations, not an anime, as Abyss's cutscene animations are kinda stiff and extremely slow.

[@Gailardia]

Why activate OL if your not gonna use your mystic arte

[@SlussBus]

Because if you use your mystic arte against Asch he will counter with his own mystic arte.

[@RandalXVI]

Oops

[@suchiuomizu]

@@SlussBus And unlike House Fabre, you don't have very stupid genes.

[@Echooflow]

I love this game

[@crowbow896]

Port please. 4 players.

[@thelairofthedemongod]

6:25 Light Spear CAAAAAAANNNNOOOOOONNNN

[@anthonynguyen4235]

GATE TO THE UNDERWORLD, OPEN!

[@viperzeno]

Woah I can't find the sword dancer to fight to get the sword

[@antoinewilliams290]

0:52 Wrong lever!

[@nikeshmistry99]

whenever I listen to asch all I hear is dark pit

[@tamuyodi3109]

Best fight ever

[@voidslasher94]

im right here....skeiiiiith!

[@dillonm.2422]

This was fun on unknown mode

[@JerryScrewis]

AAH AAH UH UH AAH IDIO- IDIO- IDIO- AAH

[@vittoriopugliese3352]

I wonder: will Tales of Arise give us a duel like this? And if it does, will the opponent actually be able to use items in battle (at the cost of having less total HP)?

[@BardockSkywalker]

Is It Me Or Is Asch Voiced By Sasuke?

[@Pixeel_XIII]

Yuri Lowenthal voiced Asch, Luke and Sasuke.

[@BardockSkywalker]

Pixeel I KNEW IT!! I LOVE This Voice Actor, Wait, Didnt He Dub Ben From Ben 10: Alien Force?

[@Pixeel_XIII]

Yup! He did.

[@BardockSkywalker]

@@Pixeel_XIII AWESOME!!!

[@DakturPepper]

From the looks of it. Both of them could've survived based on the fact that they had atleast a good 5 - 7 seconds of open window to get through that slowly closing door. But ehh...lets do it for the plot!

[@cahayalutz2931]

Daktur Pepper "This isn't about logic!"

[@RandalXVI]

The plot armor is strong with this one

[@Am4t3r4su]

Asche was dying as it was. His life was cut very short because of the replication procedure. Old comment but still felt like commenting

[@suchiuomizu]

House Fabre has very stupid genes after all.

[@crowbow896]

Well said, replica.

[@vileplume5927]

This scene made me cry lol

[@Demi-Joker]

4:12

[@Jani_DC]

Every time when a magic attack is done damn that lagg

[@maori297]

Sasuke?

[@cynicalnitro8416]

What are you playing this on the 3ds? Framerate didn't drop this bad on the ps2

[@AmonsRealm]

Cynical Nitro most likely on an emulator

[@PamonhasDePiracicaba]

REPLICAAAAAAAAAA

[@stevemyers3082]

Sasuke vs Sasuke.

[@bubblegumxo]

Sad to say I played through this on the 3ds. Didn't know the PS2 had such slowdowns 🙄

[@lloydirving1823]

Late to the discussion, but PS2 doesn't have any more lag compared to 3DS, assuming the cameo fight is also laggy on 3DS (been a while). The only difference is load screens are longer on PS2

[@bubblegumxo]

@@lloydirving1823 it wasn't anywhere close to this bad on 3ds. I assume its an emulator problem as stated

[@z.i.r.3120]

I cri evrytiem

[@SantiVII]

Este juego fue tan hermoso, y esta pelea fue la que me pareció la más epica. Tales of the Abyss ha sido de los pocos juegos que al completarlo me hizo sentir realizado con una sonrisa en mi cara :')

[@Jeffgamer916.]

Yeah just like kingdom hearts 1.

[@SantiVII]

@Jeffgamer916. Yess! I love KH 1

[@Jeffgamer916.]

Uh get a job.

[@zonia4742]

Haber cuándo sale toda la saga tales para PC.

[@saraylla7361]

Justo acabo de pasarme este juego (y esta escena) hace unas horas... En 3ds claro. Pero si. El vesperia al menos ya está anunciado para Steam estás Navidades. Ojalá el siguiente remake sea xillia 1&2 :')

[@JackoTxD]

REPLICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@z.i.r.3120]

I cri evrytiem ಥ_ಥ

[@djcollie604]

Lmao, those framerates

[@zeronixtheyoutuber3983]

Battle with myself

[@zeronixtheyoutuber3983]

You have no idea how hard it was get Yuri to actually do it. He cried after voice Luke and Asch as he watched them kill each other... Hahahahaha😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You coward.

[@OG23IV]

Luke does too lol

[@nathanpaul6263]

Lolololo

[@turquoisemoon3654]

I can't understand what fans are saying... PS2 looks better than Zestiria? I mean... that's why I called it "unfair nostalgia." These graphics look super-old... I mean, I understand the fanboyism on old Tales... but really, the unfair comparisons. :(

[@DigimonVids]

It’s illegal to use an emulator

[@SlussBus]

Not if you own the physical disc. Fun fact.

[@DigimonVids]

Timothy Sluss it still is

[@DrCrazyEvil]

@@DigimonVids bruh no its not read up on the laws. Granted this was 3 years ago but still.

[@vortez411]

O

[@josiahharris3151]

asch is weaker than luke

[@josiahharris3151]

i couldn't agree more

[@ubermatoa8753]

@@josiahharris3151 wtf replying to your own comment?

[@josiahharris3151]

@@ubermatoa8753 leave me be

[@theicycharmander3324]

@@ubermatoa8753 It was his replica.

[@JovemJogadorr]

@@ubermatoa8753 Even worse. He reply his own comment after 2 years

[@Yunravel]

REPLICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA