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[@daveTHEdirty]

I like how Lois in her story was essentially injustice superman but cranked up to 20.

[@kid.hudson_]

So basically it doesn’t matter if Superman or Lois dies, the world goes to hell if either of them holds any kind of power

[@DarkSharingan21]

@@kid.hudson_ pretty much. They both suck at grieving.

[@popg21-the-epic51]

injustice superman 🤝 dark multiverse lois *the inability to grieve*

[@Fenris30]

@@DarkSharingan21 Thing I loved about New 52 Superman was that he was a Self Made Man, Had been through the hard times and knew how to Grieve having done it before even putting on a Cape. Sure he was a little aloof when it came to Humanity but Silver-age Aloof Superman was best Superman IMO. You can't see the Big Picture if have your face too close to the canvas all the time.

[@dexter8584]

It's always funny how when people are caught up in anger they feel they have a righteous cause. These dark stories are a perfect example of why Jonathan and Martha Kent were the best things to ever happen to that little Kryptonian boy that fell from space.

[@savageshot3723]

@Aggelos Anastasoulakis Can you elaborate on the existing part?

[@savageshot3723]

@Aggelos Anastasoulakis His parents had a significant impact on the man he is. Of course his immediate family is more important to him like Lois and his son but he was on a good path before

[@danielstonebraker656]

That's very insightful

[@chriso0015]

Man, the dark multiverse really hates Superman

[@Felzorful]

Its a character based on hope. Darkness wins when all hope is lost.

[@fredrikgranstrom6743]

Who does not

[@chriso0015]

@@fredrikgranstrom6743 you kidding? Superman is the most easily recognizable character on earth, besides Jesus and maybe Darth Vader

[@fredrikgranstrom6743]

@@chriso0015 still sucks

[@CloneCommanderQutibahAlFarouqi]

@@fredrikgranstrom6743 You suck!

[@preretconbeyonder7700]

The storylines of Tales From The Dark Multiverse really proved that: "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." In Infinite Crisis,Blue Beetle died but Justice League eventually came out successful. In the Dark Multiverse, Blue Beetle survived but he used everyone as his puppets and killed Booster Gold. Same outcome in case of Teen Titans The Judas Contract.

[@dalordofgaming8705]

Pre Retcon Beyonder I like how that sounds

[@spencer7618]

that is so true

[@jakehero95]

@Aggelos Anastasoulakis we're gonna have to agree to disagree there. I find Kingdom Come and even more so All Star Superman much better stories for example, should check them out if you haven't esp the latter of those. Injustice was rife with things that didn't really make sense and were bad just to be bad/have shock value with no real significance to the plot or done in a way that respects the characters, like Nightwing's death. Wonder Woman was butchered as a character with no real explanation and so were others like Damian and Shazam and even Hal Jordan to name a few. Many many times throughout the story it just feels like things are being done purely to get some reaction not because it's good writing. Plus isn't the whole point of *superhero* comics to show us what it means to be one, provide an *escape* from reality, and inspire us? Does a comic that for the most part does the opposite really equal the best one DC has made? Maybe it's the best superhero turned villain comic, can't say it's the best comic in general tho personally. It does have really good and cool moments esp in the beginning and I actually do really like the story as a whole but I don't think I'd even put it in the top 5. All that said I do understand why ppl have it as their favorite and don't think anyone has to agree with me, just all my humble opinion.

[@arturmaxon2842]

@Aggelos Anastasoulakis Na

[@caletherault3049]

Love how Death of Superman's Lex Luthor has a head of hair and a beard.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

In the original comic he did. He was transferred to a clone younger body

[@xxprototypexx5056]

@@obsidianfrost9514 because his original body got cancer from the kryptonite he carried with him at all times

[@popeye697]

The mispronounced name of Lobos race is hilarious once you realize he's calling him a C-Section

[@Coldbreezed]

?

[@reevesanthony8452]

@@Coldbreezed a C-section is actually called a Caesarean section which sounds similar to Lobo's race, the Czarnians, when mispronounced.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

The Tales of the Dark Multiverse taught me something about myself. I learned that I have a limit. I actually have a limit, which I didn't know I had to how dark something could be. You know something's wrong when the universe that got the closest to a happy ending is the one where everyone is Lobo...

[@Reapermaskhybrid]

Yep, normally I like Lobo but an entire universe full of people like him is too much for my tastes.

[@ryanairqatar4666]

Ur literally on every video on this youtube channel. Noice

[@preretconbeyonder7700]

@Just Some Guy with a Mustache Tales from the Dark Multiverse Blackest Night didn't have a near happy ending. Lobo's bio structure and Sinestro's control of the white lantern ring wasn't accurate to save the universe. At the end, Sinestro tried to escape this horror,but Tempus Fuginaut stopped him.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@preretconbeyonder7700 Like I said, that's the closest thing to a happy ending we've seen.

[@preretconbeyonder7700]

@Just Some Guy with a Mustache you got a point. But I think Death of superman and Knightfall had a less darker result.

[@NodDisciple1]

0:41:06 After what he did to Lois in Injustice...this...brings a smile to my face. 0:48:31 Guess they forgot that Lobo was thrown out of Heaven AND Hell. So...he shouldn't be able to die. At least if the writers remember the canon.

[@ryudragon7]

These stories are really cool. Literally, all hell breaks loose. Since it's not the main storylines, the writers can be wild and crazy. I kinda want to see stories with Martian Manhunter or Shazam going all out.

[@cl3f473]

Dark multiverse:Kingdom Come,perhaps?

[@ammarally3055]

@@cl3f473 They should leave out actual good stories and just use regular stories

[@lyricaldeezy4151]

Man Benny , a.k.a Thee Comicstorian , your voice acting and storytelling have grown exponentially since I first subbed to you. Mad props for making all of us comic nerds day's for weeks on end since you and your channels inception💙🖒

[@mrk0per]

Benny needs to read this

[@tajaniscott]

i find the Judas contract the most unrealistic. IN MY OPINION, Wally's speed or Raven just being Raven could have bodied Tara

[@seanyee7850]

your not wrong though

[@G0000N]

Plus I’m kinda confused in the fact that terra can manipulate Kryptonite even thought it’s not even from earth

[@panthor109thabest7]

@@G0000N it is still rock which is under her domain

[@tajaniscott]

@@panthor109thabest7 true but even with that, i doubt there would be an abundance of kryptonite on earth for her to manipulate, most of it was destroyed on krypton

[@jet5299]

Or that she had the knowledge to even look for it

[@komlat253]

What i like about the dark universe is that it shows how hard it is to be a superhero, thats theres a fine line to walk of what heros are and not ..its really cool honestly to see the others heros in the dark mutlivurse literally move one degree from light to dark and they are not longer a hero . .

[@thornquartz9814]

I want to more Dark Mutiverse stories: Identity Crisis, Crisis on Infinite Earths, Final Crisis,Tower of Babel, Flashpoint, etc.

[@dalordofgaming8705]

Thorn Quartz ooo dark flashpoint

[@justinvann6343]

Tower if Babel yes

[@chriso0015]

Kingdom come

[@chriso0015]

David Ortiz That’s the thing that makes dark multiverse stories so intriguing, you never know exactly what will happen. Take death of Superman for example: the obvious answer is to have doomsday kill Superman, and then the rest of the planet. But no, doomsday was never the threat, the irony is that Lois was the biggest threat. And who would have guessed the ending for blackest night? The thing is, if they do flashpoint, expect a dead scrawny Superman. Because Superman is always killed in the dark multiverse.

[@chriso0015]

If it was up to me to choose a selection of dark multiverse stories, I would choose kingdom come, flashpoint, dark knight returns, killing joke, and (and this one is highly unlikely) marvel vs dc crossover

[@upperdecker9992]

I have all these comics. They definitely need to make more like this.

[@comicfan1324]

I hope they’ll make more tales of the dark multiverse comics

[@keelanbarron928]

Yeah, I'm hoping for a dark multiverse version of a story before the crisis on infinite earths thing happened.

[@dg9444]

If they do more Tempus needs to find at least one hero

[@nickolos1995]

I agree 💯 🔥

[@hrolfbjornson6666]

Definitely need these five in a trade paperback.

[@alejandropanizales7973]

18:58. I never knew that batman could be scary when he smiles

[@StaticGritz]

The Louis story is one of the coolest alternate stories for me. Pure badass

[@randomfan791]

I love the Tales Of The Dark Multiverse it shows us finally what the other Scale of the DC Multiverse which is only mentioned in other story’s of the Regular DC Universe

[@bryangintora9541]

Now I wanna read these comics. I seriously love how the authors twisted the stories and them into something dark and horrifying.

[@Firelance2361]

1: Red Daughter of Krypton 2: Emerald Twilight 3: Batman: Hush

[@the_grim_gamer3039]

Red daughter of Krypton would probably be similar to the injustice universe except now it's Kara and not Clark. Emrald twilight would probably have paralax killing all the heroes and ruling the universe. And Batman hush might have Batman going through with killing joker and then Gordon would try to arrest Batman so Batman would kill Gordon then Batman would kill hush his entire rogues family. And anyone who tried to stop him like the batfamily and other heroes. Basically he'd become Omega from the last Knight on earth storyline. Ruling over his city with an iron fist killing all criminals. He'd kinda be a cross between Omega and azreal from the knightfall dark multiverse story.

[@DoubleBoost23]

@@the_grim_gamer3039 I personally think a Dark Multiverse Red Daughter of Krypton story would have Supergirl, as a Red Lantern, being her usual self while like that before an incident causes her to fuse with The Butcher but she can't control it.

[@Firelance2361]

Super Sonic Duo That’s something along the lines of what I thought it would be like. They should consider adapting all sorts of stories like these for this series.

[@guianbana7842]

@@the_grim_gamer3039 man... i feel so bad for omega. Holding the door to let the others in and they broke him physically and mentally.

[@radamap7455]

I want dark multiverse version of Flash Point or the Killing Joke

[@fsmprophet8319]

I'm sold

[@keelanbarron928]

I honestly think that the killing joke dark multiverse version would just use that theory that batman killed the joker at the end.

[@fsmprophet8319]

@@keelanbarron928 or joker killing batman and gotham

[@radamap7455]

@@keelanbarron928 or we get a dark version of commissioner Gordon who snap because of the joker or it can also be Barbara but story wise I still think it be Commissioner Gordon

[@keelanbarron928]

@@radamap7455 yeah, but it would be kind of great to have that fan theory be correct technically. But yeah, those work as well.

[@darthfenrir4892]

When the hell did Lex get those luscious locks

[@ldiod4374]

Darth Fenrir489 In the 90s, Lex made a clone body for himself after he was diagnosed with cancer from years of kryptonite exposure . One of the perks of his new body was a full head of luscious red hair.

[@darthfenrir4892]

@@ldiod4374 damn

[@estebancollazo7641]

The Lois Lane one is stupid. Superman is the strongest hero and if he couldn't beat Doomsday what the hell does she think the other heroes could do??? 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@shikniwho7215]

@@estebancollazo7641 it just one of those "villain lost love one and blame the whole world for it" type

[@unstable875]

this is definitely my favorite thing to listen to because i love comics and I don't have the money to get them and hearing you read them for fellow comic lovers is what I genuinely love about this channel

[@t5dagreat]

DAAAAANG!! That Infinite Crisis though! Wow!! I read that Death of Superman one, sooo good!!

[@will4329]

all of them were pretty cool, until I read the one about Terra. That was so incredibly farfetched; killing Superman by hoarding Kryptonite? There’s no implication where she got it from, she just has it and kills him with ease. Every other hero is then fodder in contrast to her which is pretty absurd given the roster that DC has, but I am likely just reading too much into it given that most of the roster in those scenarios have killed or aided in killing a lot of people. But that scenario with Terra just simply didn’t sit quite right with me as a reader.

[@abelgezahegn1679]

kryptonite is a mineral found in the dc universes earths it has been proven before terra controls minerals

[@rexthedog4]

I lost brain cells with the teen titans story

[@objectifymutahar1869]

Why?

[@ImTheMan0fSteel]

The infinite crisis one... Superboy crying was actually kinda sad lol

[@tythompson5920]

I love how DC brought back 1960's Robin during the Adam West era

[@the.sketch.projekt8851]

I wanna see a dark multiverse version of Dark Knight Returns. We know that Superman did kill Batman because of one scene in the main story where evil Supermen capture Superman and Batman. One of the evil Supermen is wearing the armor from Dark Knight Returns

[@luisechevarria6930]

I think that's the batman where he gets choked on jokers gas I know this is old but yeah that Batman is actually the worse of the worse on any given universe it's the metal universe if I remember

[@Rainbow_dash67.]

@@luisechevarria6930 the Batman who laughs?

[@stevensantoyo7533]

These stories are amazing really. I had a kick when they did the multiverse alternate Batmans, but adding these makes me want more. Tbh they all end on a very sad note and I have to hold back my tears but I have to remind myself that these are not taken place in the main earth.

[@lordkarasu2263]

It’s time, for the darkest timeline...at last.

[@luisjesus8668]

We saw 5 dark timelines, maybe our own is the sixth

[@kenz16v55]

They really should make more comics like this.

[@Lerciezje]

the "what if's" are my fav, we've got GLORIOUS Injustice series thanks to that and that's pretty much the only thing that still feels fresh nowadays

[@loserscorner6746]

I recommend Multiversity by Grant Morrison

[@patapon646]

What makes this work though is that its few and far between. And in the between periods, we get vanilla stuff that further deepens our understanding of the characters. So when shit like this comes out, it's the shit. Plus, with less stuff like this, we don't get burnt out of

[@pyrolee17]

When superboy prime came in to the room and took everyone out, that was the very first time a comic book has ever made me flinch.

[@mindcraftful]

I would love to see the war of light be turned into a twisted and evil dark multi-verse story or maybe an evil And twisted version of the super sons

[@AetherBoye]

The truth is, we live in the dark multiverse. No heroes, only villains, no alternate universes that we can yet get to or yet interact with.

[@d4s0n282]

I thought that part was interesting, where the computer said that if there is no heros, there would be no villains

[@big_lolo_01]

If they do more I really want a Dark Universe version of Battle for the Cowl. Imagine if Grayson lost on the train and Todd became batman.

[@Ubermensch9240]

26:32 Benny missed a golden opportunity to get Linkara to do the Superboy Prime voice.

[@TheWrestlingful]

I was just about to say that lol

[@Artimata]

Mess up stories in a mess up multiverse. Yeah makes sense..

[@nightmarewolf3515]

I think it would be cool for a raven dark Multi verse were trigon comes into there world and raven some how takes his power and rules over earth

[@cainabel6356]

There is one story that Raven does bring him into the universe and rules beside him, at least I thought so. Still, I like your idea. It would be poet justice by her father's standards, since he wants her to be more like him.

[@wugglesx]

Dark multiverse injustice would probably be interesting when you think of how that's mean injustice's original story was the light multiverse version

[@gingervikingjesus2351]

Sinestros look in this gives the term, "Edgelord" a whole new meaning!!🤣🤣

[@kanaankhan1955]

Damn terra has always been bad and honestly I’d like to see a future story where this version gets defeated cause damn is she evil af.

[@wolveraspeaks]

Nah, everyone will have a convenient weakness to rock types now. Even kid flash somehow couldn't outrun her sight despite snatching an entire person from her grip so fast she was still talking to air as he got away but... 🤷

[@kanaankhan1955]

Desolate Hound I know but what can I say some things are just how they are written to be

[@cainabel6356]

@@kanaankhan1955 Yeah, horribly. She could have just sank the entire city or park into a lava pit to take care of Kid Flash. That would have been more reasonable.

[@upperdecker9992]

I love the Dark Multiverse stuff. Also This is my favorite channel. So entertaining. Thanks

[@ericdraven7467]

Thank you for making these videos! All my life I have had a reading comprehension problem . It was really fun in school. So much to the point that I couldn't remember what I read. That is the reason why I didn't read many comics growing up. But I always have loved the characters. This is why I like your videos hearing you read them out loud I can understand what's going on in the story. Thank you and keep up the good work

[@state1724]

Everytime Tourne did anything all I could hear was "Turd said..." or "as Turd threw him to the ground"

[@TheLegoPopCulture]

Lol😂😂

[@thornquartz9814]

I don’t want DC to stop with these, please guys keep em coming!!!

[@darkreflection9087]

I hope we get more Dark Multiverse comics

[@leapofaithproduction]

Louis story needs a movie

[@radicalrob2103]

I couldn't live without these audio comics,I dig everything u do on here brotha!!U make gas station job not bad at all when I can listen to my fave comics

[@jasonstamper4203]

Keep up the great work! Thanks!

[@noncompliant209cali]

Definitely my favorite thing out of any publisher in a while! I want more!

[@Rebellions]

If Clark had lived longer than 3 minutes in that timeline I wonder what the bigger blow would have been Waking up to find out that she thoroughly abused his powers or Discovering that she murdered his best friend.

[@Fenris30]

Someone doesn't remember Death of Superman. Most of those Heroes were ether dead at the time, Too far away to help or Incapacitated. The only Hero who was there was The Guardian. Doomsday had wiped the Floor with the Keiren/Giffen Justice League.

[@siphokazimadikane8331]

I love this story line. I can't wait to hear the rest! Keep it going, Benny.

[@matter8293]

I love this series because it means we can see what would happen if there was one change in the story

[@blackthunder99]

These were great. They definitely need to make more. Flashpoint, anything with Lobo you do a great job with his voice and character, panic in the sky, or the hawk and dove story or anything with reverse flash

[@fslayer1290]

Fantastic work!!!

[@damienwatkins596]

Love this retelling of DC stories in the dark multiverse. It reminds me of watching tales from The darkside are the Twilight zone...

[@RabblesTheBinx]

so... Are we ever gonna get the rest of the Dark Multiverse stories? I mean, it's cool, if not, but I was looking forward to seeing your take on them.

[@CaliIzActive]

dude i had no idea there were more stories thanks

[@RabblesTheBinx]

@@CaliIzActive yeah, there's three more Dark Multiverse stories they haven't done, yet (and three more that they did but aren't in this video): Flashpoint, Crisis on Infinite Earths, and Dark Knights: Metal.

[@dmnapier7]

I love how the dark multiverse version of the Black Corps is a mix of Last of US and AOT. Dove being Ellie, Lobo being Joel, and Dr Miracle representing the people that thought they could use her to fix everything

[@umreliwill3939]

This was so great

[@shauryamishra4659]

I love this channel so much.

[@ToneDesh]

I always enjoy these...

[@TheSMG130]

Honestly the death of super man story line doesn’t seem dark? It just seems effective. Lois actually changed things and had some solid points lol

[@donnellebarfield3964]

The justice league becoming tyrants would solve nothing they bring in criminals and protect earth what society does with them is not JLA fault

[@Levi-xb5sz]

These were so cool

[@alastorlestat9929]

Those twists are amazing

[@brothadarkness9995]

Man these are awesome as hell

[@Vamroc]

You will when Death Metal becomes a thing next year

[@michaelleamon8403]

I want to see them do a tales from the dark multiverse superboy prime. Like a complete series combining all of the best superboy prime stories. I know he's a character you either love or hate, but he's been involved in some great stories as a great villain for the heroes of DC

[@greyworld6242]

These are the realistic stories depictions I’ve always wanted! Just my opinion.

[@inferiordior]

Nah, these aren't realistic either, Louis isn't smart enough to become the Red Daughter, Blue Beetle would've probably found another way to survive, Tarra DEFINITELY would've gotten stopped by Superman or someone stronger because we all know she can't control Kryptonite, not even with that stuff Slade had, etc, the only one I'd see happening is the Lobo one tbh lol, still kinda sad Dove dies tho :/

[@slurp3194]

They arent realistic cause batman isnt irrational he actually thinks before doing something. Second just cause of alot superheros lose doesnt mean its realistic do u think one person can out smart the whole of justice league. You really think superboy can take on whole of teen titans with a literal copy of him in it. People are irrationally stupid in this world.

[@drelezar7745]

@@inferiordior eh *Lois is probably smart enough to become the red daughter. Have you ever watched her on superman shows? She’s definitely much smarter than most ppl. Plus I think her knowing where the fortress of solitude is alone proves a lot to the eradicatior about what level of worthy ness she is

[@will_da_man_]

Really hoping for a second book of this, it was great! For the next one, maybe they could include Final Crisis, Identity Crisis, Flashpoint or The Killing Joke. Just some ideas, but I'm hoping for more nonetheless! 🤟

[@nephite467]

It comes out in june

[@jesse8699]

Thanks Benny

[@-boondoggle-6134]

Black Lanterns: YOU HAVE BEEN INFECTED! YOU ARE NOW ONE OF US! Lobo: nah im good

[@abdielver69]

This was epic to say the least!

[@treylakingz9029]

That was awesome

[@mattschroeder3432]

thank you good sir for do this you are all awesome stay safe

[@calebroberson5561]

The son of Bane is great, id love to see Turn interact with Damian in the main continuity in Titans

[@williamsmith5340]

Awesome

[@revposton]

God its been a Year and i still come back to hear this.

[@lastofthelostsouls629]

Thank you

[@if91100]

So many of these stories are genuinely interesting, the teen titan one is so utterly bad like my god.

[@1985GregB]

the black/white lantern core story.... OMG!!! lol. wooow. amazing. i want so much more dark endings.

[@jeremiahbristow7609]

What were the instrumentals that you used during Knightfall? They are the best part of this whole thing!

[@wavemaster4891]

There are alot more tales of the dark multiverse out there. There needs to be updates to this video collection

[@merpuffedy]

This is fucking awesome! Thank you

[@zaviebabyxo]

Goat Storylines... So glad they didnt happen like this but amazing stories

[@brix94rnsn95]

You should do a part 2 tales of the dark

[@darkerdaemon7794]

The background music is a little too loud in places imo.... I'm half deaf already, but, it was hard for me to hear some of bennys words when the epica crescended.

[@goldgamer3925]

There is nothing more than i enjoy than watching superheros die in horrible ways, not because it messed up...mostly, but because it so satisfying to se a villian not only win but completely dominate and control it all through any means neccesary

[@X4X8X15X16X23X42X]

You should do a Full Story video for Under the Red Hood 😍

[@kd2times931]

I do t think the narrator gets enough credit ....he basically read the entire book as it was made to sound 💯😂 much credit to him

[@dalordofgaming8705]

This is why I can’t watch a lot of dc vids they just ignore things that annoy or r inconvenience terra wouldn’t beat raven ,Superman,kid flash and where was starfire exactly

[@v.weaver1510]

She was buried with Cyborg.

[@dalordofgaming8705]

Eternal Sentry oh mb I ain’t peep

[@cainabel6356]

Yes, but we are talking what if stories of the Dark Multiverse. They are like bloopers, not really possible.

[@drelezar7745]

@@cainabel6356 Well these ARE canon. They just arnt part of the universe we are most familiar with. That’s the multiverse for ya

[@CloneCommanderQutibahAlFarouqi]

No light in this DC multiverse

[@Alucard2356]

The Batman one with Azriel had too much suspension of disbelief. I don't think that Batman would've kept his cool long enough to betray the two if he was that broken by Azriel.

[@Toggleboy626]

Favorite stories have always been flashpoit and red son. I'd love to see darker versions of those

[@Lancealot3553]

I really like this kid turn, bane and lady Shiva's son, I find it hard to believe he would be killed so easy, his mom is one of the best if not the best fighter pair that with his dads strength, imagine a more flexible younger bane that is just as good as batman at hand to hand and he has natural venom....no he wouldn't die that easy, I hope they bring the kid back maybe into the main dc universe because he is a good kid he tried to save Gotham. Tempest should have grabbed him up.

[@kubamcmillan3078]

Yeah

[@Shimada.]

Hey comicstorian could you maybe do venom:the end? That's a 30 page comic that marvel released recently I think

[@frank._.lotion]

this mans storytelling voice is incredible

[@seanyee7850]

does anyone know the name of the music that plans at 37:59

[@TheOvervoid]

The Saint Batman suit is so sick! 🔥

[@user-jc7uz5lo3c]

53:34 Again ... again, the authors forgot that the new gods are unique throughout the multiverse, they could not become dead because they are not living by definition, but even so they are fucking out of the universe 57:41 I thought it couldn't be worse

[@Aristocratic13]

jamarkus gg Yeah a lot of these have plot holes. For one the Eradicator said its powers would destroy Lois but she's still a live. And there's no way in hell Terra would bodied everybody like that.

[@matildevasquez288]

Actually your right but the thing is remember this takes place in a completely different multiverse and the new gods could also work differently depending on the multiverse