This is why board wipes are required in commander.
@eastsidemuu2 жыл бұрын
Word up I run 4 in my deck lol
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
I really can't stay away from 2 players playing copy commanders. Edit : I also returned the Edric to Andrew, It spent 4 weeks in my deckbox until I saw him again lmao.
@Threadoflength2 жыл бұрын
Was nice of you guys to let Mathieu start the game with an emblem that said "creatures you control cannot be blocked"
@kyubeyincubator55332 жыл бұрын
I mean, weren't most of his early creatures unblockable, evasive or shadow?
@Red_Male2 жыл бұрын
i'm genuinely confused as to why miguel played finale of devastation AFTER combat, and put 8 into the x just to get a rec sage he had enough mana to give his team trample and +X/ +X and probably could have won the game off of that
@DarkEinherjar2 жыл бұрын
Finale of Devastation gives haste, not trample.
@orgazmo6869712 жыл бұрын
@@DarkEinherjar Craterhoof gives Trample and X/X
@Red_Male2 жыл бұрын
ok but my question isn't answered despite being corrected his dragons have flying
@TheTylerJuneau2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t get get an Edric trigger from attacking Dom that turn? Probably drew it then
@Khiash2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm guessing he drew it off the Edric trigger during combat.
@Butcher8992 жыл бұрын
Damn, haven't seen a karador deck in so long
@afspeellijstnaruto2 жыл бұрын
he feels like a worse version of muldrotha. Just (often) cheaper to cast. I got a Kathliss deck though, and maybe Karador could be decent in the 99 as a way to reanimate my stuff.
@AuraXars6 ай бұрын
@@afspeellijstnarutolooking at the list, there is allot of things that you dont get in sultai such as peacekeeper and rule of law creatures, idiot bird, linvala and norn. If you want a hatebears shell with creature combos the perma 3 mana commander is also great 😊
@NarffetWerlz2 жыл бұрын
In my experience, Edric is a KOS commander. He needs to be neutralized in one way or another or, well, that happens.
@thengine72 жыл бұрын
Edric is cedh. Kill the cedh deck first.
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
@@thengine7 I would say CEDH is determined by the deck construction, not the commander.
@davidmartinez-rp4uw2 жыл бұрын
Well the Mathieus deck has a poor engine, the main issue was the lack of interaction of the other players, in my pod a Edric turn 2 means get removed, destroyed or enchanted 😅
@newtpondskipper2 жыл бұрын
I like and play Edric and I can't agree more. The value he gives is insane. My deck is borderline cedh and I have to agree that it depends on the deck not the commander if it is considered cedh or not.
@bryanlim98172 жыл бұрын
What's the matter? You all don't like to draw cards. I play Edric too and I expect my opponents to let Edric live. Hey, don't look at me like that. All of us benefit.
@mn63342 жыл бұрын
I took apart a 5c Gyruda companion deck and made Miirym clones instead. It's been super fun. Even when the main plan of making a bunch of Miiryms isn't working I can usually fall back on cloning opponents stuff which can be just as fun.
@DarkEinherjar2 жыл бұрын
Oh, absolutely... my first game with my Evelyn clone deck, most of the time I was copying the Ur-Dragon player in front of me 😛
@royalfishness12 жыл бұрын
Was there a reason Dom did not block the Dousing Dagger swing with a plant token?? I am really hoping there was some effect im missing or that was a huuuuuuuge misplay
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
Did a bit of negotiation
@royalfishness12 жыл бұрын
@@thetemp7858 you must be an excellent negotiator :)
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
@@royalfishness1 Thanks haha, I must say that I saved myself in games multiple times with only talking.
@traviselliott30132 жыл бұрын
Umm.. respect to mudstah for having a patreon called sliver tier. That alone makes me wanna see what all rage I'd about it
@connorl02042 жыл бұрын
Ive got two different versions of miirym built but havent had a chance to test either. Both look very fun.
@maxbodifee32632 жыл бұрын
They say board wipes are a thing in edh 🙃
@cas1262 жыл бұрын
That Erdric deck was oppressive as hell
@NT_Escanor2 жыл бұрын
The edric intro is priceless
@dichsedichse2 жыл бұрын
So why was mathieu allowed to get through with the dowsing dagger? Am i missing something?
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
Negotiations
@astonrichardson52882 жыл бұрын
Cor blimey! Mathieu was gaining SO MUCH value that game! Drawing 7 and discarding 1?! Jesus wept
@roberthancock6870 Жыл бұрын
The Edric Moxfield link seems to be broken
@YayaJiri2 жыл бұрын
I think this might be a big if, but what if he is still bitter that he didn’t return it?
@MTGMuddstah2 жыл бұрын
Haha! I saw Mat on Wednesday last week and got it back.
@latinojackson96942 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Rite if Replication just make another copy of a 1/1 Legitimate Businessperson since that's what Selvala is?
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
It copies the OG card
@jundsheep75992 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this live.
@thelunchlady82762 жыл бұрын
Poor Frogador, we hardly knew ye.
@SackA11ack2 жыл бұрын
What am I missing? Was the rite of replication targeting selvala just a troll play?
@fairy-nova54552 жыл бұрын
no i needed a selvala for mana i believe. and copy spells copies the og card not the 1/1 legitimate buisness person version of it
@TheChiminguito2 жыл бұрын
706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object's characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The "copiable values" are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by "as . . . enters the battlefield" and "as . . . is turned face up" abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.
@DarkEinherjar2 жыл бұрын
The Edric dilemma: either someone focuses on him and not draw cards, or everyone leaves him alone until it's too late. I see Edric, I'm totally tempted to focus on him because of the extra turn shenanigans.
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
My deck had a single extra turn, I focused on equipment theme Edit : after making the decklist I realised I had fewer equipments than I thought, but I focused on a buff theme.
@DarkEinherjar2 жыл бұрын
@@thetemp7858 I'd still be tempted to focus on you because of the amount of cards you were drawing every turn. 🙃 This game showed how people were willing to ignore Edric, just because they were drawing cards too.
@thengine72 жыл бұрын
@@thetemp7858 edric is cedh. It has to die first.
@newtpondskipper2 жыл бұрын
@@thetemp7858 you're a good man for not going full extra turn with Edric. I am not but I still applaud you. I still use infect also despite being told that it's "too slow". Guess we aren't cedh level yet lol.
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
@@newtpondskipper i hate players taking insanely long turns so I try not doing the same. More fun for everyone
@studentmoviesandvibes16712 жыл бұрын
The only thing that stops a new busted commander are old busted commanders lmao
@DarkEinherjar2 жыл бұрын
Yay, Karador
@SurgingChaos192 жыл бұрын
This was honestly a very poor game, simply because the disparity in the power level clearly showed here. The Miirym and Karador decks were clearly not prepared to deal with a deck that can aggressively cast Edric on turn 2. Once Dom let Edric through and let Dowsing Dagger transform (seriously... why not just block with the plant token you just got?), the game was pretty much over right then and there. Even a board wipe wouldn't have really helped out here. The Edric player was drawing so many cards and had so much mana (thanks to the Lost Vale) that Edric would have been able to immediately rebuild after a board wipe and continued to pile on the pressure. You have to stop Edric before its creatures start connecting. Once that engine gets going, it's too late. The snowball effect is just too crushingly powerful to stop, especially against slower decks.
@thesxex2 жыл бұрын
that's the usual Edric problem, the deck consistently punches way above its weight class. $10 of random evasive commons, mana dorks, and a couple overrun effects is already about on par with most $100 casual lists
@kevinkennedy36432 жыл бұрын
Board wipes would've been great. Or you know any removal that wasn't from Miguel
@DarkEinherjar2 жыл бұрын
When your deck aims to swarm the battlefield with dragons, board wipes aren't very common...
@kevinkennedy36432 жыл бұрын
@@DarkEinherjar yeah ik but at least some spot removal.
@sunflowertheog2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkEinherjar i don't see how anyone builds a deck without boardwipes, you'll never win if you just let 3 players do whatever
@karibou772 жыл бұрын
Did Mathieu forgot to discard after his first swing with the looter ?
@thetemp78582 жыл бұрын
I don't think so... maybe I did it a bit late but pretty sure I did it
@karibou772 жыл бұрын
@@thetemp7858 OK. I said that because I was still seeing the three visits on the top of the graveyard, but I can't see what was underneath it 😁
@tiagomoreira8408 Жыл бұрын
when the creature equips with lightning greaves the other equipment should fall, right?
@xanderfurash99382 жыл бұрын
Edric!!!!
@joeymunn72 жыл бұрын
Proving why simic is the most annoying color combination in commander. Always eliminate the simic player first no matter what, even if you have to team up.
@thengine72 жыл бұрын
Edric is specifically cedh. But yes, green is good.
@davidmartinez-rp4uw2 жыл бұрын
Well the Mathieus deck has a poor engine, the main issue was the lack of interaction of the other players, in my pod a Edric turn 2 means get removed, destroyed or enchanted 😅
@stevenrahman89722 жыл бұрын
Miirym Mirror match...
@moedark43902 жыл бұрын
I know its me but i just dont like it when two people have the same commander
@kingholxx2 жыл бұрын
four players and no boardwipe :D
@eloisemumm2 жыл бұрын
I was excited for this game at first due to the possibility of crazy stuff happening with two Miiryms on field, but it kind of wound up being the least interesting deck playing solitaire the whole time. booooo simic.
@BIGxWIGGLY2 жыл бұрын
Scrap karador and turn it into tayam
@MTGMuddstah2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually thinking of turning him into that Bug thing that gets counters based on what stuff has in your own graveyard?
@benjaromis12 жыл бұрын
I mean i saw the commanders at the start and i would have bet all my money instantly on the spy bastard. Its a simic semi cedh commander. You just cant play against that one without fast combo decks or a lot of mass removal....lel
@AnticlimacticPangolin2 жыл бұрын
Always remove edric 😂
@faerie7dragon2 жыл бұрын
Man, Miirrym is kinda lame, just Simic with a Dockside splash for Dragons.
@rhainex59522 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't even know why they showcased this game. Based on all the comments this was a already written on the wall and everyone knew the outcome. Poor choice of a game I just skipped to the end after edric swung with dowsing dagger.
@Blacklodge_Willy2 жыл бұрын
First:) 💙
@gibbysg81432 жыл бұрын
Extra turn spells are so lame. It’s the most overpowered, laziest card design I’ve ever seen
@tonnie9012 жыл бұрын
just counter them. personally i hate cheap ramp spells more
@nikos7312 жыл бұрын
@@tonnie901 When the only answer to something is "play blue and counter them" and nothing else, you know it is indeed an op and lazy design.....
@mckenziestone33022 жыл бұрын
@@nikos731 red elemental and pyro blast exist
@nikos7312 жыл бұрын
@@mckenziestone3302 Ok. I will correct it. "When the only answer to something is to play VERY SPECIFIC COLORS AND CARDS and counter them (in Red/White there are only like 1-3 cards available thus hard to always have at hand at the time, in Green/Black there are 0), you know it is indeed op and lazy design". Better?