Talking to and sleeping with Bea on the couch - night in the woods

[@zentrum9042]

Most important message in that dialogue to all psychologically ill people : You are gonna make it. As someone with a psychological disorder and someone who is going to be a psychiatrist i can confirm.

[@clutteryguy9747]

Thank you.

[@potts11037]

i think we all appreciate that. i was having genuine symptoms of depression when i was eleven (now sixteen, diagnosed with severe MDD and Social Anxiety Disorder) and that’s when i first played this game. i’ve come back to this game time and time again over the years. It means a lot to me and I can’t even put it into words, but I can say that this game has been with me throughout my entire journey; i can’t remember the last time i didn’t have what feels like a parasite in my head that’s called MDD, as well as the constant doubt along with mental breakdowns and anxiety attacks which have made me cry on an average of multiple days a week - but it feels like yesterday when i first heard of this game. It probably sounds corny but that is what it fees like. i hope to be a psychiatrist as well, or a counselor/therapist, or some kind of social worker so i do appreciate something like this

[@DMC4EVERUCCI]

This was honestly one of the most real and beautiful dialogues of the whole game for me

[@EmpathicPerson]

It is still is 🤲💜

[@crystalsummers2293]

I think I actually experienced something like this when I was little. It's called Derealization. I'm lucky that it went away as I grew older, but I'll never forget the absolute devastating confusion and fear of feeling reality fall apart around you. I'm glad I got to make sense of that through this game.

[@eleanor2084]

Do you struggle with your memory during that time?

[@basil9007]

@@eleanor2084(talking from my experience) it’s not like that, it’s more of a terrifying feeling, you long for comfort from literally anything, but you don’t get it, because nothing is there anymore everything is dead, everywhere is “gone” and it’s terrifying, having a bad memory can be a symptom of anxiety and depression those 2 things can cause dissociation so ya know

[@theresaheroinmyhead]

ive struggled w derealization ever since i was 12 and it never went away, i remember when i discovered this game i cried like a baby at this scene because nobody believed anything was wrong with me. to this day i hold this game on a very high pedestal because it made me see that im not crazy, and i refuse to let anybody tell me im crazy

[@teeny_monster]

when I played this part through (it was with Gregg but same concept) I realised that what Mae was going through sounded a lot like depersonalization to me. idk just a thought

[@DenMotherArkala]

wafflesrelate it was apparently confirmed as dissociative identity disorder, but I think depersonalizations may be a symptom of that

[@teeny_monster]

Den Mother Arkala I read an article about this game and yeah, the person writing it confirmed she went through an episode of depersonalization (an effect of dissociative identity disorder)

[@Voice7777777]

yeah she dissociated basically

[@Kaleestraza]

Actually, the correct term is Derealization. Depersonalization is when YOU don't feel real, while derealization is when everything ELSE doesn't feel real. I doubt DID was really supposed to be canon. DID includes alternate personalities, which Mae doesn't have. I assume they mean to say she had a Dissociative Disorder, with the subtype being Derealization Disorder.

[@tutterbear98]

Yeah DID is a bit of an interest for me, and that kind of threw me for a loop when I read these comments lol. It did sound like derealization though. Like a bunch of dissociative states that disconnect you from the world around you.

[@calamar1e320]

It's scary how much I can relate to that feeling. I don't know if there's a legitimate term for it but for me, personally, I had a moment in my freshman year of highschool. I was a band student, and we had that class at the end of the day. The director was this really fun, energetic guy who had this way of just getting people to pay attention to him without raising his voice (more than you have to to be heard in a room with 60+ hormonal kids with instruments, anyways). I'd always been a fan of more science related stuff- I grew up with David Attenborough and Bill Nye, so a lot of concepts that most people in my school didn't really understand were ingrained in my mind since before I was 10- all except one concept- the concept that we're made of stuff. Us. People. Just made of lots of little things that made up more things that made shapes. I understood the concept but it never really clicked with me until this moment. I was sitting in band, and I don't know what it was- maybe the light caught his glasses a certain way, maybe a vein in his hand was highlighted a certain hue, maybe his voice just shifted a little, but something snapped. The part of my brain that just accepted things as making sense and being more than just shapes broke. Suddenly I could still see a person, still hear words, but I also just saw fleshy orbs that are supposed to be called eyes, and they were just shapes in a bigger shape that did something, and language suddenly made no sense to me. Just sounds. Just vibrations in the air. It scared me, because suddenly, things didn't feel important anymore. They were just big moving blobs of matter and stuff and their brains and minds were just these things that were developed and moved and they were just shapes. Conversations became meaningless blurbs, and smiles just became shiny, meaningless curves in flabs of flesh. Ever since it feels like I've just been a little detached- a little unable to connect, because when I look at someone I see shapes, and I just hear vibrations. I can't say I've ever beaten someone's face in randomly, but I can say I've been in the place where doing so would have been effortless if I'd been confused enough, or scared enough, to just start whacking the shapes in front of me. When I saw Mae have this dialogue during a playthrough a youtuber I watched was doing, my heart legit slowed down and I had to go back to make sure I'd it all correctly. It felt like someone had plucked my head off my shoulders, dug around in it, shuffled some ideas around and built it into the story. It freaked me out, to say the least.

[@bethanyjosh4353]

I think this is how non-sentient beings think about things. Maybe it’s just what we define as humanity just being set aside for a bit and letting us think like something that doesnt have emotions or anything. Yo that’s totally it. We are animals too, after all. We are the same reactions and shit, it’s just that we created insanely complicated ways to do things because those ways released more oxytocin or whatever. Then we started being pretentious and renaming those reactions and stuff, and now we think it’s weird whenever we think like everything else.

[@bethanyjosh4353]

Also I totally am hoping for some similar moment of clarity that puts a name to my problems. It helps to know you’re not the only one, and that you might be able to find someone who can help.

[@1234cheerful]

i'm glad you found this and it brought you some clarity, that you are not alone. I hope you are doing okay.

[@ratcastled]

hi sorry i am. several years late and i hope things are better for you not but in case you still need it: what mae is describing here depersonalization-derealization disorder, so you might want to look into that

[@scrapinpennies4365]

Dissociation is what I call it. I've had these thoughts as well, it's terrifying... sometimes I wake up and I look at my hands and its just, how do they move this doesn't feel real what is this? Existence? Yea that happens here and there. But one day, everything is just a bunch of mass and light that I can't seem to connect to, i can't quite explain it but it feels as if I've lost a core human attachment to all aspects of all of what I can see and that my eyes are just windows out of my prison, my body, to view these shapes and moving interconnected parts fuck its mind screwing. You know, mae, she really needed a hug at that moment.... because touch is still real to me even when sight isn't.... I know I needed one when I lost control. But nobody was there, and maybe if someone was I would have been ok. Im still recovering from that episode. Still gives me chills today. I hope you're doing ok as it really messed me up and I never want you to go through that again. Nobody should ever

[@cuervus_]

"Shhhh. It's gonna be okay. We'll figure this out".

[@JacobKinsley]

The whole game with Bea I felt like that's what Bea wanted to hear from her friends. Just some reassurance that she'll overcome this stage of her life eventually.

[@nightponyinrface6009]

This might have been the deepest part for Mae. Telling those closest to her why she had to get out. Bea, Gregg, you can tell how much they care about Mae. Realizing how much she is suffering too. She is so messed up cause of many outside forces burying deep into her mind & soul. I feel like that a lot too.

[@BioHzrd0010]

Did Bea just fall asleep with a lit cigarette in her mouth?

[@theproffessional9]

Bio Hazard Yep, it's a fire hazard but whatever, I guess, lol.

[@BioHzrd0010]

What even is your profile pic?

[@theproffessional9]

Bio Hazard, it's My fursona, kinda like one of the characters from NITW, he's anthropomorphic bunny called "Hazel Smoltail" he's a character I made last year.

[@BioHzrd0010]

It looks like R34 of your fursona. Is it? It's really small and I can't quite tell.

[@theproffessional9]

Bio Hazard It is R34 yes uwu

[@alektro9493]

For anybody confused, Mae struggles with Derealization where the world around her seems not real, thats why she keeps bringing up the phrase “Just shapes” because that’s all the world and people around her were, just moving shapes

[@Maijorsam]

"sleeping with Bea " o h

[@birdo_is_here]

(I’m glad I’m not the only one who envisioned that)

[@sydneyduchaine4832]

I've browsed e621 too much to not see that image in my head.

[@Adam0Null]

That Came Out Wrong lol

[@eyeballjay]

Damn this is real, I know the exact feeling she's describing. I remember once when I was like 12 sitting in French class listening to the teacher I zoned out as I often do and it was like someone lifted me out of myself and I was observing everything from behind a thick sheet of glass. the teacher's voice, the kids sitting around me, the cheap florescent lighting shining down on me, the hard plastic seat I was sitting on, that weird classroom smell of whiteboard markers and old carpet, none of it was real and it was all in my own head, yet so far away from me at at the same time. I didn't even know if I was real. I had to stop myself from freaking out right there in the classroom because I couldn't make myself come back. I got over it but I'm not sure if anything has really felt "real" to me since then and like with Mae here it comes back with a vengeance if I'm in an anxiety-inducing situation like being around a lot of people or people I don't know. I remember another time at university I was drinking with a large group of people and we were all singing, dancing, yelling, what you do when you're drunk, and I suddenly realised I didn't *feel* drunk, I was just acting like it because I'd had a lot to drink and was around people who had also had a lot to drink and were acting like it, because that's what you're "supposed" to do. We were all just playing parts to a script that wasn't our own. Idk man. It's a surreal feeling you can't really understand unless you've had it yourself, it's like suddenly becoming aware of the Matrix or something. When did a cartoon cat become more relatable than anything else?

[@theproffessional9]

Dang dude that's a hell of an experience, hope it's gotten better! .w.

[@eyeballjay]

​@@theproffessional9 Thanks man, it's better just knowing other people go through this too and I'm not some kind of a freak lol, taking it one step at a time!

[@Stick_and_stone]

At least you didn't beat up anyone

[@thumtak_]

​@@Stick_and_stonewith a bat

[@dewfazbear514]

i love their development because in the end bea is the one who saves mae, showing their true friendship and caring for one another

[@CosmicFox2007]

this is the only time where "sleeping with someone" actually lives up to its name. also, bea actually says the words "ZZZZ" because her mouth is moving

[@Торнадоплюспетарда]

Couaches are so superior in that universe, they make characters philosophic

[@theproffessional9]

Therapist's couch syndrome

[@lordfluffyboots6480]

This was strangely good ASMR fuel, like, watching them talk and listening to that soft comforting sound effects noises when ever there is dialog happening, it makes me feel relaxed, tranquil, and calm. It makes me want to ramble to myself or just dream about sweet and wholesome things But I guess that's what this game makes me feel like in general.

[@Maijorsam]

This game always makes me feel so sad for quite a while.

[@tarvoc746]

This is such brilliant writing. I get that she's describing a psychotic episode or something along those lines, but it eerily sounds like she's describing a sudden awareness that she's surrounded by video game characters.

[@theproffessional9]

@@tarvoc746 She has a dissociative identity disorder and in this case it caused her to act a violently because she wasn't in full control of her actions basically she like went on autopilot and when you add her stress to that she didn't know how else to react.

[@tarvoc746]

@@theproffessional9 I wasn't trying to diagnose Mae, I'm not a psychiatrist. My point is that her dialogue can be read in two different ways precisely because it's presented to us as part of a video game. In my case, the dialogue actually did kick me out of the immersion for a moment. I was like: "Holy shit, that's what I'm doing right now, I'm just looking at shapes!" - I think this reading is further backed up by the fact that she herself starts having this experience for the first time while playing a video game.

[@ARIOSODEV]

@@theproffessional9 i think you might be misunderstanding what dissociative identity disorder is. what mae suffers with is more similar to dissociation on its own, or something along the lines of psychosis, or something like derealization/depersonalization

[@monav8606]

When I first played this game for myself, I dismissed this part and didn't actually realise the depth of what Mae was saying and I honestly can't really pin-point what my reaction was to it.. but it wasn't an overly sympathetic one and then when it happened, I've experienced multiple episodes of derealisation since then and everything Mae says in this scene hits sooo close to home for me and the way she describes it is so realistic and (at-least to me) accurate.. it's so scary it feels like your the only actual thing there and everything is just.. there

[@Zelda090909]

I started bawling because at this moment I sort of related to Mae a little too much. I moved away from my home town recently and it's so hard to make friends and I'm so scared all the time and I never leave my house and my depressions just getting worse and all I want to do is run home and I know my mom would accept me back happily but... I want to go to school. I want to go to the school here. I just don't know what to do... life man. It's scary. I want to go home where it's safe and I have friends and I can see my brother and sister and mom...

[@Voice7777777]

[@Zelda090909]

I mean turns out my brother doesn’t really want me here and my mother only wanted me here until I started living here and my 13 year old sister went to live with her dad instead and all my friends ditched me and my dad is having fun living life without me. BUT I might get a snake. So it all balances out I guess. If I can find a job of course. Sorry didn’t mean to vent at you random internet stranger lol.

[@Theodore_VII]

Zelda090909 Hope you’re doing alright. Life’s a ffffff mess and tragedy we’re blessed and cursed with. Might as well enjoy and make the most of what we want out of it

[@keith720]

I hope you're doing OK now

[@Zelda090909]

@@keith720 ah I went home hahaha I really did end up just like Mae. But you know what I think in the end going home was what I needed and I think it was what Mae needed too. It’s okay to take life one step at a time maybe everyone else is moving too fast around you but it’s okay to just slow down and take life at your own speed. I am okay now I think. Probably for the first time since I was a kid really. Maybe one day in the future I’ll try leaving this familiar place again but that will be awhile I think.

[@squid2039]

i love this game so much. i love the characters interactions with eschother and the world they live in and how everyone struggles and deals with problems differently and the art style and the atmosphere everything in this game is perfect i desperately wish for more content related to it

[@trans_diflu0r0ethane]

best representation i've ever seen of what dissociation feels like

[@amberthesuperfox]

this game made me start a journal cuz I sort of have the same feeling as Mae it helps some

[@actionman9451]

You just want to give Mae a hug and tell her it’s ok and she’s going to be ok. She’s had so much to deal through then she returns to the one place where she feels safe and secure only to find that it’s all changed along with her friends. Everything has moved on without her and she feels like she’s been left behind.

[@kingsheen6011]

who knew some dialogue bubbles could convey such emotions

[@happinessandquotes9374]

THAT WAS SOME DEEP STUFF RIGHT THERE

[@redpandaproductions566]

What Mae says to Gregg contradicts what she says to Bea... she tells Gregg that when Andy stepped up to bat, she attacked him, not the other way around

[@theproffessional9]

RedPandaProductions she says she attacked Andy though

[@redpandaproductions566]

InvaderScuzz yeah, good point. It's not that it actually matters lol, just something I noticed

[@theproffessional9]

RedPandaProductions but she says she attacked Andy though..

[@redpandaproductions566]

Hazel games I don't think I worded that correctly. I mean that she tells Gregg that she attacked Andy when she stepped up to bat but she tells Bea that she attacked him when he stepped up to bat.

[@Viktron_]

RedPandaProductions No, she doesn’t, she tells Bea Andy’s the pitcher when she’s up.

[@bethanyjosh4353]

This makes me wish I could describe my problems to someone and figure them out, but I have trouble working out what’s even wrong. I know something is off, and I know there’s some overarching issue that could make it all click, but I have spent a couple years worrying about it and I haven’t made any progress.

[@theproffessional9]

If money is the issue trying saving up and find an affordable therapist uwu

[@Spyrine]

I bought the game right after watching this

[@theproffessional9]

Hope you like it :3

[@revedraws4186]

This year, I was a junior in high school, and I had the exact same feeling Mae had, and for long periods of time too. It was terrifying looking back on it. I couldn't get anything done and I had this crippling sensation that I wasn't real and that in fact nothing was real and that everything was just a construct in my head, something my brain couldn't compute anymore. I didn't really talk about it to anyone except my long distance girlfriend who couldn't help me and it was honestly kind of hell, almost made me burn out and fail my year. I hope that if I get that feeling again, I'll talk to someone about it. but it's always kind of hard to know how I'll be reacting during one of those epsiodes, so I'll just pray for me to have the good reflex I guess

[@ka1ebsauce]

this would be a better video if i could READ IT

[@theproffessional9]

Sir.Enchilada the 3rd.. power read that shit.

[@maeborowski220]

Sir.Enchilada the 3rd I wish it was faster

[@theproffessional9]

Mae Borowski maybe next time it will be

[@lordfluffyboots6480]

It's called the pause button, use it when you need it

[@uftopia]

can you not read fast?

[@chillysaurus5398]

*Damn, this hit home.*

[@paw9122]

when you're tryna vent to your friend but they just say *zzz*

[@ningadudexx390]

i feel like this everyday now, i miss when i was younger and didnt used to think this way

[@ashleycat4]

I've been thinking about this problem I've been having for years where everything just feels fake and I remembered this game from years prior and... Wow. This describes my experience pretty well. Except it's not that way with people, I think. I see people like I'm supposed to and some animals and stuff too, but with everything else, it's different. It's like there's this fog that's in front of me all the time and it makes nothing feel real. Everything is static, or if it's not, it just feels like some set piece. It's like someone put it there and it just acts the way it's supposed to. Like a prop in a video game. And sometimes, I just want to break it open to confirm that it's real. If I lived alone, I'd have stab holes in all the cupboards and walls just to confirm that they really exist and there's stuff there. It's almost every object. The walls, the chairs, the trees, the grass. It feels like I could just walk over and touch it, but it's nothing but plastic.

[@ethanfo851]

I love Night in da WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODZZZZZZ

[@DenMotherArkala]

One complaint: you sort of rushed through some of the dialogue, particularly Bea's ):

[@LittleVillain34]

Den Mother Arkala watch it at 0.75

[@makorays]

seeing other people in these comments struggle with this makes me feel a lot less alone. i didn't even know it was something people considered themselves to "struggle with". i just thought i had been granted a glimpse beyond the veil of reality and now i had to spend the rest of my life living with eldritch knowledge not meant for man to comprehend. but it's like, yeah, maybe we're NOT meant to think like this. maybe you're supposed to be able to take some stuff for granted, view some things as more than just the shapes they're made out of, because otherwise what even is life.

[@mickey8606]

this is one of my favorite scenes :((

[@apalletspallet8131]

Wait, does the part of who Mae is on the couch with depend on who you spend the most time with, or is this a mod?

[@theproffessional9]

Depends on which friend you spend most time with.

[@cocobob6025]

@@theproffessional9 so why didnt i get the stupid bear with glasses

[@cinnamon4]

@@cocobob6025 You only get to go out with Angus only once? Like there are two hangouts where you can choose between Bea and Gregg, and then there's hunting for ghosts, that's the only time you can choose Angus

[@uftopia]

i've played this game 3 times and NOT ONCE has *BEA* been TherE TO TaLK should talked to her more :/

[@crazyluigi6664]

Yes, you should.

[@clutteryguy9747]

I love this game

[@helenaww]

maebea

[@iluxius8216]

MeaBea

[@soupfanatic1837]

ohgodnoplease

[@rdsasuke1]

YES

[@FallingStars-621]

This scene *HURT*

[@FrosstKatt]

3:01 current situation in america

[@aubrisfox]

I feel bad for Mae. Dissociation is the worst.

[@Karuminu2]

I was half hoping Mae was gonna say at the end "I love you, Bea." Who else here isn't shipping those two? They're a great pair!

[@fsilveyra6469]

gay

[@Karuminu2]

I take it you're a homophobe?@@fsilveyra6469

[@fsilveyra6469]

@@Karuminu2 no

[@Karuminu2]

Then what the hell?@@fsilveyra6469

[@crystalwhisp]

@@fsilveyra6469 Yes it would in fact be gay

[@tarniabook3076]

Some people get this conversation with Gregg or Bea, how does that work?

[@kayaaa2686]

It depends on who you spend more time with during the daily activities.

[@StarshineFishy]

I mean Mae is right, at least for me, it's all just shapes,

[@cresha8779]

She is so me fr

[@expanddong7062]

Dr. Hank doesn't serve those who use coal

[@artemisarrow179]

I love these two gays. Even if one is closeted :3

[@pisscat3444]

I honestly ship those two 👀❤️ But which one is the closeted one?

[@artemisarrow179]

@@pisscat3444 Definitely Bea :3

[@crystalwhisp]

I love this ship but I'm pretty sure Bea is canonically straight. I still headcannon her as bi tho

[@rat3138]

bea can be attracted to guys and mae is bi/pan

[@ToozdaysChild]

Good attempt, but you need to give the viewer more time to read each dialogue. You're moving way too fast.

[@ravenjameslaynesa7985]

i don't ship it i don't ship it i don't ship it GAH I SHIP IT

[@fsilveyra6469]

gay

[@bittersweetbean]

Mood

[@mechchungus4702]

How do I report glitches for fixing

[@personaloffense]

Bad choice of words in the title dude

[@theproffessional9]

Twitch I mean that's they're doing, my man.

[@schoolshooter6953]

Emerald games oh god....😂

[@gekko88]

Why would you skip through that dialogue so fast..?

[@michealdesanta9219]

Wait... They still have shoes and bea has a cig in her mouth!!

[@theproffessional9]

They can't take off their shoes, lest they be effin.

[@nancycolvin7739]

Don't say anything dirty don't say anything dirty don't say anything dirty don't say anything dirty... *Looks at the title* talking and *Sleeping with Bea* on the couch. Ur welcome xD Somebody end my fucking life ._.

[@thegoodiesgeek4125]

Do you get it now, Bea?!

[@vidguy2004]

She kinds of ends the conversation the same way Gregg does.... 😒😒

[@radioactivelizard6762]

Ship

[@fsilveyra6469]

gay

[@fumkyykmuf]

derealization sucks man

[@_Tozzie_]

bro you in a hurry???

[@theproffessional9]

@@_Tozzie_ bro you never learned how to speed read???

[@xotl2780]

More importantly we can slow down KZbin videos by now.

[@rotomfan63]

Oh god the shipping detector's going bonkers.

[@huntermaddywhite6902]

You skipped through everything too quickly to read

[@theproffessional9]

Maddy Lenson change playback speed to .75 or .50 Or read quicker x3

[@micaiahborchers8914]

I'm fairly sure what Mae experienced was depression with psychotic features.

[@thumtak_]

Dude what