"She Didn't Take Any Responsibility For Her Actions!" Former Post Office Exec Refuses To Apologise

[@gerardhampson9089]

She can't remember the emails!!!? lies, and more lies . She needs to go to jail.

[@wickedwitchoftheeast88]

She can't admit anything as she would technically be admitting she comitted various crimes and once the inquiry is over she could face charges if the police get off their lazy arses and do something

[@KarenBruhn]

She's lying all the way through her testimony. I'm American and don't know the UK justice system but she absolutely needs to be held accountable.

[@mikewilson8513]

This isn't a court of law, it's an official enquiry. (although witnesses have to swear on oath to tell the truth) The judiciary will be looking at this and decide where we go from here. Personally, i think heads will roll eventually. This is why she was playing dumb for most of the two days. If you are interested, the Paula Vennells appearance next month is going to be a must watch. (May 22nd) There is lots more mileage in this scandal to come. If its proven that these people lied in a court of law (they did, but it must be proven) over the prosecutions, they are in deep trouble.

[@diannepenny407]

@@mikewilson8513 They are indeed... Looking forward to seeing how PV tries to play this.

[@mikewilson8513]

@@diannepenny407 You are right. Its going to be interesting. It's going to be hard for her to follow Van Den Bogerd in playing dumb. She is very close to the top of the tree, so blaming others is not going to do it. Don't forget, Alan Bates will settle for nothing else but seeing heads roll. He has been like a dog with a bone for 20+ years, and is not going to let it go any time soon. I hope he gets a crowdfunding appeal going, so he/they can bring private prosecution, if it needs it. They have the country behind them. I have the utmost regard for him.

[@Ken-ps9ux]

The arrogance of those who know they will never be held to account for their actions

[@KarenBruhn]

@@mikewilson8513 Thank you for explaining it. I hope all turns out well for the victims. I've been watching the 4 part series on PBS and will watch the Real Story documentary this weekend. This should have never happened to anyone.

[@marktronic9637]

She’s so compromised and a complete liar. She needs her pension taking away for her part in all this, the locking up and the key throwing away

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

people in high places all have this trait...

[@tenkloosterherman]

In addition, clawback of all the bonuses she received over the period.

[@blue_jay31]

I so agree !

[@blue_jay31]

@@tenkloosterhermanfor sure !

[@michaelmcginley7930]

Even if proven shes a liar she will still get away with it

[@robertmcbride1859]

A truly loathsome woman and I hope she stands trial at some point. I cannot understand how she was ever promoted into such high office in the Post Office? She comes across as totally incompetent to me.

[@marktronic9637]

Hopefully she will be charged with perverting the course of justice and get a taste of what she dished out to the SPMs as a result of her covering up and lies under oath

[@williamlyons3261]

She was promoted for towing the line this is what is going on in all business these days why do you think civil service nhs and all the privatise companies and councils are so poorly run and bankrupt

[@markwalker4142]

Nepotism. 🤷‍♂️

[@patpending8134]

? No family connections at all here.

[@patpending8134]

Civil Servant here. I have seen with my own eyes the decline in the Civil Service over the last 20 yeasr or so. It's staggering how the people who have elbowed the way to the senior positions are just so self-serving and socioparthic. They give talks about their "career journey", i.e how they climbed the greasy pole and are so brilliant, in which they lay bare that they just moved from job to job and hopped from different Civil Service departments on their rise. They have no expertise in anything at all, other than in getting themselves promoted. If someone was needed to close an office and effectively make long-serving loyal staff redundant, these are the characters that happily volunteer to do it (and later use it as an example in their promotion applications in support of how they are brilliant at making difficult decisions). I've even imagined that if it was decided that 10% f people had to be exterminated, these ar ethe people who would happily draw up lists and get it done. I've even come across a few people who I concluded were stratight up psycopaths.

[@craigshackleton1652]

The sooner she faces criminal charges the better. Her partner in crime Vennels needs to be charged too.

[@michaelmcginley7930]

No one is goingbto jail they do deserve to but it won't happen

[@jamesgreen807]

​@@michaelmcginley7930"WE" can ALL LIVE IN THAT IT WILL HAPPEN!!!!!

[@OutRAjious]

I was aware of it a decade ago, and I don’t work for the post office … she’s a lair , a criminal, she HAS to go to Jail

[@JamesPink-j2k]

Nick Wallace deserves formal recognition for his tireless work to uncover the Post Office's staffs intentional obstruction, consealing the truth about their egregious actions over so many years. Thank you sir!

[@Mikados_Advark12]

Oh stop grovelling

[@diane4488]

I agree. 👍🏻

[@helenjob]

Praise due to those who called this out. Look at the computer weekly articles. It's like a complete history of this sorry affair.

[@hedgehog1965uk]

It's "Wallis", but yes I agree. I loved his 18 hour long audiobook on the whole affair and have listened to every podcast episode he has done. I hope to meet him in Guildford on 15 May, and also Seema Misra (the SPM who was sent to prison when pregnant).

[@BrendanMillar-fn1qj]

His book is very well written. He put in the hard graft for many years supporting and driving this case.

[@christophercherrington7550]

A total liar, without any credibility whatsoever. Well done for the KC's who didn't mince any words on her. If anyone deserves to be held criminally accountable over this, she does.

[@hovishill2779]

“She didn’t take any responsibility” but she took the MONEY !

[@bwghall1]

and a man took his life.!!!

[@anthonyshiach5049]

Why are lawyers not telling these people they are lying under oath, and going in hard on them!!!

[@JonDingle]

Because it is an inquiry and they all piss in each others pocket. So many times I have watched lawyers off the hook during this case, its not much of an "inquiry".

[@anthonyporter3147]

Because they are part of this countries institutions that keep the ordinary people down .These poor people will never get the truth.

[@PedalForward]

This afternoon (Friday) one of the lawyers, Edward Henry KC, did accuse her of lying. There’s a video clip of this - he didn’t hold back.

[@jamesgreen807]

Oath means NOTHING TOO THEM!!!!!

[@jilllawton8556]

Paula Vennels. Remember the old ‘fire and brimstone’ people of the cloth. No compassion whatsoever.

[@breaghboo-gc7ub]

But they didn't need compassion. They needed the truth.

[@jaybe2908]

@@breaghboo-gc7ub They knew the truth, but it was more convenient for them to ignore it

[@v12ngt]

She is currently working as an HR contractor and has recently overseen making 100 staff redundant at a company called Integral UK Ltd, she must be so proud of her contribution to society

[@neilwells-west7845]

Hundreds of innocent people's lives utterly destroyed but its no-ones fault.

[@Royboy50]

There never is anyone to blame when the obvious culprit is the government and its aliases,they collectively disown any knowledge of anything pertaining to the case .they know full well they are to blame but hide behind ignorance,you try that one and they will claim ignorance of the law is no excuse

[@Mikados_Advark12]

Utterly untrue. It was someone’s fault. Stop standing up for the Post Office.

[@Royboy50]

@@Mikados_Advark12 obviously you don’t do irony,or even sarcasm is lost on you ,Neil wells comment is sarcasm ,of course it’s someone at fault this goes to the top of government it’s their company a government quango run by a corrupt board headed by venells and others

[@childofthe50s53]

It is an ironic statement, not a defence of the PO.

[@TracyFoote-z3b]

Put her in prison

[@alexhamilton4368]

Cannot understand why she hasn’t been arrested..???

[@redjacc7581]

This is the sort of slime & villainy within big business.

[@Royboy50]

And government

[@kathykay9920]

Prison prison prison

[@blue_jay31]

Yes please !

[@gherkamum]

They know it was all wrong but did nothing, Fake apologies, still no empathy or shame…..They all look guilty…..All covering their own backs….Prison

[@alridd7038]

Won’t be there backs they’re covering if the go to jail 😂

[@childofthe50s53]

WHEN they go to jail, not if

[@patpending8134]

their

[@patpending8134]

Some proper punctuation please.

[@miket1783-j5j]

Her attitude towards the family of the suicide postmaster was pathetic. Only Thames Water would applaud her actions. What do her family think of her?

[@Lynnefromlyn]

ANGLIAN Water too.

[@Echo30Mike]

" You lied to the high court and still got your bonus? " response: " yes " GOTCHA. Perjury charges incoming.

[@patpending8134]

I wish, but that wasn't quite how it was put. The lawyer was becoming that she got the bonus, DESPITE what the High Court judge had said.

[@ncooper8438]

She's paid a huge salary, in part to deflect and deny in order to protect the business, but in the end she has to account for her actions. If she won't own up to malpractice and wrongdoing she's a coward.

[@OutRAjious]

She’s sorry she got CAUGHT!

[@geoffobrien1783]

YES !!! I am staggered at the arrogance and 'pushback' attitude of all of them, no contrition and when some try you can see it is through gritted teeth

[@williamcoulter5462]

They all got massive bonus payouts even when they knew the convictions were wrong but they got paid to keep their mouths shut or lose the bonus. All bonus payments from when Horizon was introduced should be clawed back by the Government and used to compensate the victims of their fraud.

[@peterbennett5910]

There is a claw back clause in Vennells contract. SUNAK write to her and tell her to pay back all bonus or else court action

[@MarieMorris-ej4is]

loved Talk T.V had it on most of the time I was home, now watching it on U Tube but hate all the breaks.

[@MrMarshy123456]

Wow lied all they way through she's a coward and the others involved ( being proven they was involved ) should be held accountable and prosecuted for knowing and doing NOTHING, disgusting change laws if needs be so EVERYBODY involved can be charged again disgusting and disgraceful !

[@patrickfoley1018]

Outstanding work Nick ..... you have set the bar really high ....

[@philipcollins218]

She’s a disgrace - no sympathy for all those ruined lives. No ownership- owned. A blatant liar.

[@dalyanjewel]

To anyone listening to this woman the contempt in her answers is shocking. Her disregard to the absolute obviousness of her knowingly lying about her causing catastrophic damage of immense proportion to all of those postmasters HAS TO HAVE. A LENGTHY PRISON SENTENCE

[@jhutchings7627]

Ironic really because they FORCED the wrongly convicted postmasters to take responsibility for something with which that they had nothing to do.

[@IanPettyfer-tk5yf]

Now relieved from her latest job…I wonder why! Totally at odds with the facts throughout and a very unbelievable person.

[@mikejduk]

Every one responsible for this horrendous situation has a problem with Memory loss! Selective Memory loss, that is!

[@dianeirvine7624]

She’s already got another job at coutts bank

[@neill392]

She was at the Welsh FA.

[@breaghboo-gc7ub]

@dianeirvine7624 I hope that's a joke!

[@michaelhughes1480]

Figures.

[@cliffordbuttle4529]

She will fit in nicely at coutts bank 😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@bwghall1]

is she going for Nigel. don`t.. he will tie you in nots. Karen.

[@BarryR.]

No wonder it was wrong with those crooks in charge

[@simmybear31]

They sound like the Nazis at Nuremberg in 1946 where they think they were entirely justified in inflicting pain and suffering on the innocent and claimed to be minor functionaries who were “only obeying orders”!

[@MRJERRYCURTIN]

Good comparison

[@pt14930]

I agree!

[@wendyprince1301]

Her whole demeanour is very hard faced, she showed nothing but contempt for the press on her entrance and exit to the enquiry. She read an apology with absolutely no sincerity, I doubt she wrote it herself and it seemed like she had been instructed to apologise, and she loathed doing it. Throughout her evidence she was elusive, yet pedantic over her use of language and certain technicalities. Her contempt for the enquiry and for the British legal system is astounding.

[@MrShell311]

A woman, not taken accountability for something. Shocked. Diversity at it's best.

[@cliffordbuttle4529]

It’s the big blame game who’s going to eat the other one first money makes them evil 😢😢😢😢

[@michaelmcginley7930]

A judge finds her guilty of lying yet is not jailed

[@helenjob]

I don't think gender comes into it. A liar's a liar and the post office is full of them at this high level. I remember being appalled by Adam crozier when he was in charge.

[@ahmedtayel4489]

Look at them, they knew that people were innocent and they did not care. People's lives were destroyed. Look at all of them.... the carried on earning millions- going on luxury holiday- buying expensive cars and the innocent people went to prison, Justice is required. My gratitude to all of you for exposing all of these dishonest people.

[@chrissailing8856]

35 Years - She knew everyone. She managed upwards. She knew and engaged with everyone of importance. She had a personal text after leaving from Paula Vennels. Knowledge was power and her personal brand and she got promoted as she got things done come what May.

[@rtdgreg]

She decided to leave. She wasn’t made redundant. But, we are told, she was made redundant. Did Post Office make redundancy payment to her? How much was that?

[@janjames2120]

What I've watched so far? I found absolutely shocking i couldn't stop watching it goes on hrs.

[@dorishenderson2979]

Everything Angie baby enters the court the song by Shaggy 'It wasn't me' should be played, it is perfect for so many of these recent witnesses and those coming over the weeks ahead.

[@karendawson4369]

For the lives this women destroyed she should rot in jail

[@mm3nrx]

Accountability is a woman's kryptonite...

[@simoran2714]

I write this from Cape Town. I have grown up & lived in Africa throughout my entire life. I am therefore, more than familiar with lies, cover-ups & corruption, often covered by manipulation & the desire for control over others... Having only followed this story from a distance, I then saw the fantastic ITV Docu Series, very recently.... My hope, is that, with everything going on in the world, this story will not be washed over & swept away. Please don't allow this to happen. Full justice MUST be served, including full & immediate compensation, in the LARGEST possible way... It will stand upon the following legal decisions, to allow the UK to separate itself from the other material, despotic dictatorships the rest of the world thrives upon...

[@kathykay9920]

This person deserves to stand in front of a jury and have a fair for the seeming crimes they have committed . If the police don't act we need to follow Alan Bates and crowdfund such a process. We cannot let these people get away without a trial. My cheque book is ready if no action is taken. Let's have some proper justice for teflon executives for a change and get faith back in justice. Please join me if we need to Crowd fund for postmaster justice.

[@mark.lawrence]

a beautiful human being. her parents must be very proud... make her an MBE now... because that's what crooks get in this country.

[@peterbennett5910]

Hear is an example why uk is stuck in a rut. A person who has made negative contribution paid a high salary and bonus and could not even say what her role was. How many others are at this game. I would say thousands in HR are at it

[@Coneman3]

Main problem in the west imo

[@rogereynon4954]

I am amazed and hope this goes further. She may not concede she knew but she did receive the information. If it's that easy to sidestep accountability after receiving information highlighting a clear issue then God help us all! Surely it is up to her to digest the detail because she is paid to do that and make recommendation/proceed as necessary. If the former is the case then it is not necessary to have an expert filling these roles is it! As for the CEO - "a woman of the cloth" - there's a nice warm place waiting for her.

[@colinfarrelly2513]

What do you expect she is a woman of a type which is now considered leadership material, they will NEVER take any responsibility for anything. This is part of the massive problem we have in the leadership in this country on the whole.

[@sharonramsey715]

I couldn’t have said it better.

[@helenjob]

Slightly mysogenistic view, in my opinion. You can find plenty of men with the same credentials. They don't stand out because business and politics is still people largely by men. Both sexes can be equally awful and the people at the the top of the post office are proving this. Adam Crozier to name but one.

[@colinfarrelly2513]

@@helenjob What about the people she allowed to go to prison die and live in shame for all those years. But no let's not hurt her feelings. !

[@dougie1968]

​@@helenjobNope. A realistic view. And it seems Angela is misogynistic as women suffered because of her. But thanks for your slightly misandrist view.

[@sharonramsey715]

Colin, while you consider leadership at top levels in this country, I do hope you are talking and taking into account both sex’s. We have seen leadership on all levels and men are equally responsible for never taking responsibility for their failings. Look no further than the Conservative government. Let’s JUST start with Johnson and take it from there.

[@anthonystanbury5537]

She has perverted the course of justice and needs to be prosecuted, she needs to be sent to prison. She needs to serve minimum of 2 years.

[@Klemheist-vf1hx]

Typical senior leader, throwing everyone else under the bus to mitigate her own responsibility.

[@jeffjohnson2348]

She and others have no conscience at all; they simply want to cover it all up by lying again and again. They must get a Prison sentence.

[@macangus123]

This woman is Vile.

[@bwghall1]

I would not put it so kindly myself. extra -VILE

[@Musicologist-61]

I cant comprehend how so many of these people can't remember!, even when the evidence is put before them!. They're apologies are empty half hearted dribble to try to save their own skin!.

[@paulcharleshayes1835]

I'm puzzled she said she took redundancy then said she left on her own accord Did they structure her leaving as redundancy as a way of giving her massive leaving package! They all knew the wheels were coming off the waggon especially her.

[@dawnrogers723]

Great layout of this evasive Senior managers and Board by Nick Wallis

[@tonychorley4936]

Seems she has been carefully coached by lawyers on how to reply, something it seems they have been doing for years. Puzzled why the same company is supposed to be running the compensation scheme, no wonder they continue to lie and delay everything.

[@JohnCates-tn1gq]

She had a top job or jobs for many years.she has lied and lied.all throuh for years she had a job at the top with all information within her reach.

[@Rendell001]

A couple of key traits coming through in her testimony - "Magical thinking", misrembering events, lack of empathy and denying any responsibility. If I didn't know any better I'd say she was displaying all the hallmarks of NPD...

[@davidgeorgea]

How sad that these post office personnel on trial now , who have devastated and caused several to take their own lives ,utterly destroying the lives and families of others , giving as if it helps their hollow apologies in my view it’s disgraceful. They are not truthful about their involvement in this travesty . I still don’t know how they was aloud to prosecuted these hard working honest workers. This should have been investigated by the police . 👮🏻

[@DaveJeffery-ow5xt]

I would think all here friends and family are proud of her story telling

[@MichaelEnright-gk6yc]

We were all totally incompetant that maybe true but she has been proven a liar.upset with the speed of compensation. Gaslighting even after proven she was deeply involved in the conspiracy.

[@derekmay8427]

How can this hateful woman be allowed to get away with blatant lies under oath! Not one ounce of compassion!

[@ArtherFocksake]

No no just the pay and lifelong vast pension. Hey this is GREAT Britain. Great for some mainly evil for most.

[@FrankNicholasDale]

So if she is not telling the truth, with this know why ask her , talking to her is a waste of time.

[@davidmorgan1963]

When will legal action be taken ? Now everyone who knows her personality knows the real type of person she is 👍

[@williamclifford4441]

She's clearly a sociopath, why would/could she ever take responsibility?

[@brotherbuzz1070]

AVDB is a very accomplished liar. What a horrible woman. I so hope she ends up in jail.

[@ktay7382]

Disgraceful, her behaviour is awful. Who would give her a job, basically not being truthful

[@mikehughes9836]

This is what happens when promoting people, becomes a box ticking exercise

[@michaelhughes1480]

Hey up Mike.

[@ClaireGrady-s9g]

For this woman to show a regret means she has to find her soul first, and she sold that to the Post Office.

[@patpending8134]

Yes, her soul is just missing.

[@Coneman3]

Or the devil got it.

[@johngibson.youhavesuchachi3084]

She is not remotely bothered about the sub postmasters. Her agenda , like Vennels is protect herself. Her deception and deceit is so transparent

[@cliffordjamesnirelan]

Go to jail, do not pass GO, do not collect £200 or in her case, her huge bonus ..

[@Geoffdam123]

She should be in prison….the suffering and suicides are on her hands…..awful woman.

[@dizzman5546]

Everyone is so greedy in high offices 😡

[@jerrywaterfalls5865]

Don’t normally watch talktv but the coverage of this inquiry has actually been really good.

[@claredavies764]

She lied. Full stop

[@garybowman4913]

I have to say, I don't believe very much coming from any of them but, this thing has the top step of the podium. She appears to be a vile individual. Hopefully there's a warm cell somewhere with the names of a few of them on the doors, hopefully this one will face a judge and jury above them all.

[@jimmcleod557]

You can see by the careful use of words that she was up to her neck in the cover up her memory was selective as to her recall no wonder the Judge picked holes in her statement definitely one for the police enquiry

[@jamesgreen807]

But real GOOD AT TAKING THE BLOOD MONEY!!!!!

[@snapdragon1194]

I would like to know what these senior positioned people were exactly doing day to day in their jobs, when they now say they don't have any idea about the facts in question? How do they expect us to believe these blatant lies about their own culpability in this disgusting crime. She's as guilty as all the other bosses of gross mismanagement, especially Vennells.

[@clivewakley3901]

Echoes of Nuremburg? I saw nothing, I heard nothing, I did nothing - I was only following orders.

[@colincourageous699]

No accountability , no shame and a big fat liar and incompetent..

[@melbeeswax6087]

Tick follows tock follows tick follows tock. Youre time is coming Paula. Itll soon be your turn.

[@PJMcInerney]

And Alice Perkins - she was far more concerned about govt funding than the plight of the SPMS

[@soihollywood850]

This incompetent fool needs to be punished.

[@stevebourne3073]

SHE TOOK THE MONEY FOR THE JOB NOW SHE SHOULD TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES PRISON PRISON PRISON and her PENSION taken away

[@DavidThomas-fm1uv]

I do not think she can be prosecuted for perverting the course of justice, because it was a Post Office Kangaroo court and not a criminal court. I may be wrong.....but unlikely, cant't recall being wrong before 🤣 On a serious note, the more I watch this Inquiry, the more my blood boils as to the level of corruption in the Post Office hierarchy

[@JennyBrook-v5c]

She lied to Parliament with Paula Vennels. I think that might be considered to be perjury, but I could be wrong!

[@jeffreyroberts7438]

She and others involved should end up in prison. But, they won’t because the ‘class machine’ will prevent that happening!!!

[@Dubjaxfilms]

Is she going to return her bonus payments from that time ?

[@anthonyshirley9928]

Send her down with ask the other's she did not apologise if was a script

[@robertyoung8785]

Changing their statements, its obvious they've been coached .

[@AndreA-ke2id]

She and her colleagues at the top put innocent people in prison. They now need to see what it feels like. Make them accountable in front of the courts, not an enquiry.

[@iancameron7247]

Lying all the way through. She needs jailed.

[@oddball7483]

They never take responsibility for their actions. Always somebody else's problem or deflect by raising another non relevant issue.

[@BlackHawks-q1r]

Payout for the postmasters now !

[@davidnichol6282]

Watch her body language it tells you a lot.

[@oldboy9949]

Prison, prison, prison.

[@OutRAjious]

She IS Poison..

[@carlowingfield7743]

But she did take the bonus .

[@michaeltownsend1719]

how do SHE sleep She can't remember LIES LIES

[@ThePacdoc]

Who is the man she stole the job from through positive discrimination towards women regardless of competence?