Simon Jordan ADMITS He Would've SACKED Troy Deeney At Forest Green As He Reflects On His Experience

TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan admits he would have sacked Troy Deeney during his time at Forest Green Rovers but insists Troy will have a future in management.
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[@Didamking]

Troy’s face when Simon said yes to pulling the plug on him 😂

[@sibonisoduma5878]

Classic but he should have expected that response from Simon.😂😂

[@MW92.]

Simon = top LAD proper clobber

[@joesesh2714]

@@MW92. a part from when hes in a room with eddie hearn , geeza mugged himself right off

[@Zx10rob]

That tiny little of coffee cup seems to have rather a lot in it

[@danneal6510]

its an adaptor

[@kenroy32]

Funny 😁

[@dennysibers4928]

@@danneal6510PUP

[@JackSmith-kp2vs]

‘Pretending to drink coffee’ starring Troy Deeney

[@sambagogo777]

If only Troy could have gotten as much out of his former players as he got out of that coffee cup then he'd be schooling Pep!

[@shellsbignumber2]

Troy Deeney staring in The Never Ending Drink.

[@lconnerz100]

Troy’s cup was empty at the start of the conversation, but he’s pretending to drink out of sheer awkwardness thanks to simons straight talk 🤣

[@whereis99]

Yeah he took 15 sips in 30 seconds😭😭😭He cant have been that thirsty

[@PAAInfoServe]

I actually lol'd!

[@elliottconway5230]

😂😂😂

[@nayden5834]

lmaaao

[@privatedale8558]

Ah the legendary fools sip

[@MUFCSHERMS]

Troy' ability to sit and hear Simon out shows he ACTUALLY wants to be successful as a manager. I can commend that.

[@sonark289]

Good comment

[@Marais-cu3vo]

Troy’s arrogance doesn’t match his ability. Legend in his head.

[@aconable]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@arranle]

100% don't understand why this guy thinks he deserves a career in media as well 😞

[@TranscendentalDentist]

Let just deal with facts. From kids who play in academies, fewer than 1% of them will have a career in football at any level, and only 180 kids from 1.5 million youth footballers are likely to make it all the way to the Premier League. Furthermore, 86% of all youngsters who sign a pro contract at 18 will leave professional football completely by the age of 24. Troy was 27 when he made his Premier League debut and stayed there for 5 years. He scored over 200 goals in his pro career. And you say he's a legend in his own head. Yeah, whatever! And no, I'm not a Watford fan.

[@Ethtre1]

​@@TranscendentalDentist at least someone speaks sense rather than just spout hate and dislike

[@outofthetrash5925]

What has he said that was arrogant? A PL player has to be a top professional because all the talent in the world on its own gets you nowhere - Ask Deli Ali. You have to give 100% and perform in metrics outside of your God given ability with a ball at your feet. You have to know where to stand, when to run, when to stay. You have to be able to predict what an opponent will do. You can't transplant your ability but you can coach these things to others if they are willing to listen and work at them and you are good at communicating amongst other qualities. A PL footballer almost always knows more about these aspects than a League 2 player and quite frankly a League 2 player should be excited at the prospect of learning from a PL player. Maybe he just isn't a good coach but we won't find out by lesser players whom have no intrest in putting in the effort to learn and better themselves. Calling them out was not just natural but necessary. The method may not be palatable or even right but it suggests nothing about his ego unless ego is measured by how hard you think people should work.

[@Caspthereaper]

Simon “I was Chairman at Crystal Palace” Jordan vs Troy “I was once in prison” Deeney

[@neil1982]

He's nowhere near mature or clever enough to be a manager. It's not about "changing culture" like he says, it's about being a person the players can look up and and value advice from, when you're essentially just a thug who abuses officials and slags players publicly isn't any kind of management material, he's lucky with the career he's had in football.

[@CimbomFanFiction]

Totally. He might have wrecked those players careers or at the least shattered their confidence. What he said was just so harsh and detailed.. and he just kept going. As a player its hard to recover publicly from those words.. and harder still to get your next contract

[@michealdexter1188]

Clearly he doesn’t have the personality or temperament to be a manager but that doesn’t mean we should rubbish and dismiss the man’s entire career. That’s utter nonsense!

[@user-bg7vn4de5u]

Sort your neck out… he’s an X footballer that came from nothing and had a career partly in the premier league… who done okay at his level… What have you ever achieved.??!!. At best,, your probably a sales rep.!!. 😢😢😢😢. Or some other nonsense job. Go on Troy lad.. fair play for achieving your hopes and aspirations… which most of us only ever day dream 💭 about…😮

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

​@@user-bg7vn4de5uyou missed out the bit about him going to prison. I'd rather be a sales rep than being an ex con

[@robertmorici8605]

Simon calling Deeney out right in front of him, damn

[@Phil_Mitchell]

Simon Jordan is a Tory, everything he says by definition is worthless 😎

[@JimDuggan-tq2lv]

Ah you must be new to Simon Jordan.

[@Marais-cu3vo]

He’s right though. Average Watford player.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Nah he did a full interview with him recently and couldn't stop banging on about how amazing he was

[@Scott-je5pb]

Simon said he would've let him go but quickly followed up with he wasn't supported. Wasn't exactly calling him out

[@Pranjal_Sharma_Sports]

Simon literally calls him a bang average player in front of him which he was and then says I am not the one saying that, then how did you get that idea mate 😂 legend

[@kevinmcnicoll8649]

I was in prison you know. Legend in his own mind

[@allydign2749]

“I’m taking a punt here.” Close, Simon. Very close.

[@purehyperbole5727]

Why he had to learn not throw his players under a bus in public is beyond me.

[@SGR166]

Forest Green have done much better since he left under Cotterill, but no one will point that out

[@kissg6734]

‘If you’re in League 2 you haven’t applied yourself properly’ wow 😅

[@aidan9123]

Anyone know where Troy got the bottomless cup?

[@whataboutusshipman7760]

It was his first wish to a genie who appeared before he went on air.

[@Maniak76]

Please stop giving Troy airtime. He's a joker 🃏 no idea.

[@RyanHartley-wk5cg]

Troy really said if you’re in league 1 or 2 you’ve not applied yourself properly - max I reached was playing in a pub league (clearly I didn’t have the right attitude towards it). Nothing to do with my complete lack of natural talent and ball skills…. Sorry to all the non league players out there, you just don’t apply yourself enough 🙃 work harder god damn!!

[@Christopher_J]

His thought processes are limited and are just lacking in anything of substance. He's not cut out for management and club owners would be smart to stay away.

[@rakimrobinsonMCFC]

@Christopher_J what's the highest level you played or coached. What level of experience molds your opinion on the top.

[@user-zi3hx8ul6o]

Makes me laugh that Troy got sacked for slagging his players off to the press. Then the owner goes on radio to slag off the manager he sacked.

[@vikingfrog7204]

Dear Troy, you were bang average

[@danneal6510]

the literal definition of

[@RL-]

​@@danneal6510 nearly 12 million people play football in England, yet there are said to be only 14500 professional sports players (of any sport) in the entire UK. Not even close to the literal definition of average.

[@danneal6510]

@@RL- yeah he was average at best

[@RL-]

@@danneal6510 "literally"

[@danneal6510]

@@RL- your point?

[@Zx10rob]

Troys eyesockets are in different postcodes

[@AdamStone-sd6tq]

Kinda reminds me of the blue avatar face or a bugs life 😂😂

[@Randomness012]

Bro 😅

[@rooneybanana]

Only small people comment on things that those can’t control.

[@Zx10rob]

@@rooneybanana but im 6ft 2🤔

[@Randomness012]

@@Zx10rob Just be kinder :)

[@ronaldbear1]

The never ending drink

[@23clownshoes]

Where do I get a Cup like that? Endless supply of fluid.. Whoever invented that is PURE GENIUS..

[@challyho2u244]

Troy talking like he played for a top club ridiculous

[@Teos123]

He played in the Prem and Championship for years, thats top level football. Imagine having the ability to get to that level. I have friends in non league who I couldn't lace a boot, never-mind guys like deeney. Top footballer and a bloke willing to accept his wrong doings.

[@challyho2u244]

@@Teos123 he played for Watford mid table team at best did he play for England?pundits should only be people who have the best knowledge of the game he was an ok player but there was tons of them in the premier league he’s just very opinionated person which irritates someone when he’s not a very good sports person when legends speak we sit up and listen and let’s be honest would he be on talk sport if he’d made a load of money each week playing for one of the top 4 teams and let alone trying to manage forest green ffs

[@rakimrobinsonMCFC]

@challyho2u244 Not one player that played for fergie during the golden years did anything worthwhile in coaching. All abject failures. NOT ONE.

[@rakimrobinsonMCFC]

@FlipFinderz I just realized you werent even the person i tagged in the message. How did you get involved?

[@rakimrobinsonMCFC]

@FlipFinderz in response to " who mentioned Fergie," the conversation was pointless because you didn't make the original point I responding to. You didn't mention Fergie and I wasn't responding to you. I tagged them.

[@andrewthomas4367]

Hey you guys!!!!!!!

[@jamesjarrett52]

Deeney is kerrraaaap!!!

[@lfcspectre4335]

Who would want to work for Dale Vince in first place?

[@UncleRuckus_96]

People who are woke

[@MrChipz900]

@@UncleRuckus_96how would you characterise “woke”?

[@gillie-monger3394]

​@@MrChipz900 Someone who isn't normal.

[@MrChipz900]

@@gillie-monger3394 how wound you characterise ‘normal’?

[@gillie-monger3394]

@@MrChipz900 someone who isn't woke.

[@paulbarry4349]

When did Troy deeney become a world beater? Arrogance is off the charts

[@raindancer80]

Having seen/listened to a few interviews with Dale Vince, I think he would be extremely hard to work for.

[@robertmorici8605]

Weird that Simon talks about Deeney, like he's not right there

[@kylowhen2639]

Not weird, honest

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Nope he was just doing his job

[@MrChipz900]

I’m the modern world that might seem weird, but it’s the way it should be.

[@ryanbarry34]

The comment means talking about him and not to him directly, it is odd. Not sure what these replies are on.

[@MrChipz900]

@@ryanbarry34 because he was asked a question by Jim White. I’d also add that You don’t know how the Talksport studio is set up and where they are sitting in the studio.

[@Tommy__C_G]

Does anyone seriously think he is going to be a good manager. Bang average as a player is a compliment to him

[@jameswade442]

I didn't realise that in order to become a jockey, you had to be a horse first.

[@danielblack8497]

of the 5 seasons he was in the premier league he was in double digits for goal involvments for 4 of them. and he did it for a bottom of the table watford team. most forwards in the prem dont do that. why are you such a hater?

[@pascalpitchen3219]

I hope Talksport uses Troy regularly. He is very good as a pundit. Never sits on the fence, opinionated, sometimes a bit out there and that is very entertaining good content.

[@warriorrob1]

At least he’s learned his first lesson of management. Don’t publicly throw your team to the wolves with no experience or credibility

[@charliemagri1669]

The way he described a player there was ridiculous. He was meant to give confidence to his team, not act like a deranged fan. He's heard managers he's worked under talk to players same way, but they what to say to certain players to get a reaction.

[@justinheasman845]

Love listening to Simon, whether you like what he says or not he says it and I like that.

[@mariusschulz2926]

Simon does Not hold Back! Lovin it❤😂

[@MW92.]

Simon = top LAD proper clobber

[@freddiejakemitchell6468]

Fantastic work

[@freddiejakemitchell6468]

Simon, thanks for looking out for him

[@mnb9162]

Troy is great entertainment... But he ain't a Manager.... Not until he matures as a man.... His ego is still bit fragile... You can tell....

[@jamesmb7453]

Troy ‘Prison Merchant’ Deeney

[@nsd_respect]

Why did close the comments on what Simon said about Sterling? 😂😂😂

[@Photosoflife]

@nsd_respect Because TalkSport can’t actually deal with any type of constructive criticism of race and gender topics. They take the route of assuming everyone is a bigot who doesn’t toe the party line.

[@PerfectMask1]

They did the same thing over the weekend when Bent commented about the Woke England flag. They say TS is fuelled by fans, yet turn off the comments when it gets a bit spicy. Cowards I would say.

[@mattykubota3603]

That hair and them absolute bay window glasses though 😂😂

[@doubledigital_]

i think that was a good no bs convo i like it!

[@jamesjarrett52]

Simon ended Troy to his face.😅

[@AshMan-wn8fs]

Love how Simon uses the rope a dope technique almost draws Troy in then nails him.

[@robertperkins7339]

Mr Deeney! He will be a super coach/manager at some point without doubt! Transition to any kind of management is very difficult. You suddenly become reliant on others and that can become very frustrating. I wish him all the very best on the journey!

[@AldershotDave]

Would Troy Deeney have liked being named/shamed when he played? If not, why did he do it when he managed?!

[@garyjohnson3751]

Simons far superior individual than Deeney especially the glaringly obvious one

[@pnwabuokei179]

Troy STAYYYEDDD sipping

[@scottburke9554]

He is not their team captain anymore. He can say what he said as a players captain all day long, you can lead by example and can affect things on the pitch. As a manager words are more important than actions. I do think there is quite a unique potential with Troy Deeney, he spans a lot of different sides of public culture, has great experience through his journey in football and is authentic.

[@tonyantoniou9271]

To play in the 4th, 5th or 6th tier is a very high level you have to get the best of what you have not undermine individuals when you are yourself a novice in such blatant fashion.

[@soulrebelja]

Troy should be back on the show. did really good today.

[@kehzito]

White: you like Troy? Jordan: I do White: You like me? Jordan: Not particularly 😂😂😂

[@JamesSmith-pn4gy]

I love that Simon felt the need to clarify that he didn't mean to use prostitutes 😂😂😂 10:25

[@CharlieLTV]

Hope he gets another shot. Think he’ll be lucky to get another shot at managing another team, given what’s gone before.

[@mrbluesky2051]

What Troy said about the forest green players was true and the fans probably felt the same as do most fans at clubs who struggle. But you can’t come out in public and say it as it has to stay in the changing room which all professional tell you

[@superbrush12]

troy deaney is bang average at best ! the man who once said he's on harry kanes levels

[@user-xf2bi2lh1b]

Good on you Troy. Totally agree with you. Everyone else needs to xxxx a pair

[@Photosoflife]

Since we can’t comment on the previous video, did anyone else notice that TalkSport turned off the comment section when Troy himself literally confirmed exactly what the former Norwich City sporting director said? In their effort to race bait, TalkSport are completely ignoring other socio-economic realities that directly lead to people from all different types of backgrounds making negative life decisions. Possibly the most famous rap song of all time (Lose Yourself by Eminem) literally has the line “another day of monotony's gotten me to the point I'm like a snail, I've got to formulate a plot or end up in jail or…” Do better TalkSport instead of just resorting to race baiting at any opportunity.

[@jbo4547]

So what exactly is your point?

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Eminem lyrics? Eh?

[@Photosoflife]

@jhpfdijtuiweruot Yes, Eminem lyrics. The lyric I cited is actually highly relevant to the conversation brought up in the book previous video. And it’s also one of the reasons why the song was so popular. It resonated with people from all different backgrounds because it summed up the very real socio-economic struggles that a large majority of people have to deal with.

[@MrChipz900]

How was the other video race baiting? Whether or not the people in question were from lower socio economic backgrounds or not is irrelevant, it’s the inference that because they were black they either had to be good at football or end up in jail that was being debated. There might be some intersectionality points around the outcomes of being from a lower socio economic background combined with being from an ethnic minority, yes. But that wasn’t the debate.

[@upon-fe2720]

If you're making a serious point, I'd recommend not using rap lyrics as a reference and maybe reference some actual studies instead. It completely undermines what you say.

[@NightcapLover]

Nice one Simon 👍👍

[@Behold__Optic_Blast]

*grabs popcorn. 😂 Simon Jordan doing Simon Jordan things. 😂

[@peterabnormal327]

Big Troy top man and great player solid. Would a love him a Celtic 🍀🍀

[@Support-your-local-team]

Deeney saying "if you're 27 or 28 and playing in League 2 it's because you're not applying yourself the right way" shows why he'll never be a good manager. Some people could have an elite mentality and work rate and not even make it to League 2 because the talent isn't there to go any further.

[@dh4113]

Amazing ability from Troy (this must be what he has been talking about, no bang average here from Mr Boom Medium Man), he has found a bottomless cup!! Incredible! Does it come with beer? BTW average is a compliment to this hack 'equaliser'.

[@nigelkennedy3427]

I'm a Villa fan but you'd be ignorant to fault Troy Deaney for effort and that what he was trying to teach Forest Green slouches. UTV

[@danneal6510]

well done you turned up on time

[@charleshart6992]

Troy will become a successful manager, no doubt about it

[@chrisfry7771]

how can anyone call someone who played so many games in the premiership. bang average. i played bedfordshire premiership and i think i was above average. lol. simon is brilliant and i think troy took alot on board there. great show.

[@paulbee2812]

Honesty about players can't be aired in public. They're way too sensitive

[@Ozzy87]

Failed Owner, Failed Tv Pundit, a Failed Manager and a Failed Sports Radio Station. Alot of failure in one room.

[@therealocgamer9701]

Underrated comment 😂

[@wickedmanrick2582]

And a failed comment 2 hours 9 likes

[@martynmcnulty782]

Troy Deeney ? a legend in his own mind ! 😂😂😂

[@soulsaproductions2024]

The same could probably be said about Simon Jordan! 😂

[@anderbean2945]

Does one actually understand the context of to allude?

[@MarkParsons-cs3zf]

Deeny’s cup is like Mary Poppins bag !

[@richarddawson8479]

How much liquid is in Troy’s cup ?

[@YoutubeWatcher3566]

Haven't watched talkSPORT in a long time. Simon looking like Austin Powers uncle.

[@superbrush12]

got to love simon speaks like the bang average player is not there !!! By the way that coffee cup must be unlimited refill , it was empty at the start drinking out of it cause of sheer embarrassment

[@samkeeley2871]

Simon should own a club and Troy should manage that club

[@townsjim]

Changing the name "XBox" would help, it's outdated

[@chindit9749]

what next for troy deeney .....manage bcfc

[@djgremlin5830]

villa fan.... knowing troy is a blue nose .. i love this interview

[@shanebristow1955]

I wouldnt put troy deeney in charge of my goldfish whilst i went on holiday

[@garethatkins450]

You can't slag off players in public. Those conversations are to be done behind closed doors and in a proffessional way. Right to sack him.

[@dh4113]

Oh dear another insult from EDI..Troy Deeney as a pundit....Stick to the littlest cup I got the most out of. Just like your career.

[@waynuswaynus3086]

Sol Campbell comes to mind 🤔

[@mkkravist11]

Dale Vince too busy working with Just Stop Oil and his eco-zealots, while his football club are in complete meltdown. He’s no more a good football club owner than I am. Deeney went against st the old football mantra of keeping it in the dressing room- that’s for the players to leak out….

[@Lifewithgoldbridge121]

Is it just me, or is Jim always "there?""

[@JTB-di8yj]

Love the way Troy starts sipping his tea and stretching his neck when Simons goading him 🤣🤣🤣 Clearly wanted to rip his head off!

[@Emmett-zl6ps]

To be honest I love Troy.

[@forumknight]

At least he's not a robot like most of the overly media trained youngsters nowadays

[@charliemagri1669]

They both failed at football clubs, because of their own self importance.

[@Jalipino_Jay]

4:24 😳

[@simonrb1942]

? WTF? In America you aren't success unless you have failed at something? He's talking out of his hoop.

[@Cian-nt8zv]

It didn't take much to upset the vegans at Forest Green😂

[@cyberdog1162]

Troy doesn't really get it

[@lfcspectre4335]

Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

[@gurnman]

Lfc Spectre = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

[@lfcspectre4335]

@@gurnman 💪😉👍💯 Facts

[@MW92.]

Top LADS with proper clobbers! 💯

[@lfcspectre4335]

@@MW92. 💪😉👍💯 Facts

[@neilangus1363]

I like Troy I wouldn't of sack him just gave him some advice. People are too quick to try and destroy people for what really

[@ddmkthfc8555]

Like Troy basically destroyed his players in the media!? Maybe he should of given advice to his players instead of throwing them under the bus

[@richarddawson8479]

Troy’s body language says it all.

[@wrightyafc]

Troy drinking lots here from his can which is a sign of being under stress