Should Man Utd be embarrassed if they miss out on De Jong? Simon Jordan has his say 🔥

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Жыл бұрын

Manchester United have been trying to sign Frenkie De Jong this summer from Barcelona but will Chelsea swoop in and hijack their bid? talkSPORT's Simon Jordan and Jim White discuss!
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@Manunido
@Manunido Жыл бұрын
United won’t look foolish if they don’t get him because united already look foolish right now for this whole saga
@lanalan4157
@lanalan4157 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@1Jameskelly
@1Jameskelly Жыл бұрын
My wife ran off with the milkman yesterday and I blame the glazers 😂😂😂
@samwize28
@samwize28 Жыл бұрын
@@1Jameskelly strange, awkward, cringe comment. Please delete
@newageassholes
@newageassholes Жыл бұрын
@@samwize28 It's true...I'm the milkman.
@hamzahussain1622
@hamzahussain1622 Жыл бұрын
@@samwize28 it’s true I’m the wife had to leave James as he has no job
@zakoid1
@zakoid1 Жыл бұрын
It's bizarre, Utd have chased the guy for months which would suggest De Jong had some kind of interest.... If Chelsea rock up and get it done in days it absolutely makes them look ridiculous.
@pedropierre9594
@pedropierre9594 Жыл бұрын
As it should
@markpugh6808
@markpugh6808 Жыл бұрын
Because United are incompetent all across the board even relegation clubs can get players in and out quickly with no fuss
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
And if that happens some of the blame is on Ten Haag as well, not just the incompetent Richard Arnold and John Murtough
@seb1554
@seb1554 Жыл бұрын
I think Man Utd are window shopping. They either don’t really have the money or just aren’t willing to spend what it actually takes.
@ashwinms4286
@ashwinms4286 Жыл бұрын
The only way Chelsea can get that to work out...is if they offer to pay the player the money Barca owes..
@superchris0110
@superchris0110 Жыл бұрын
If Chelsea get this deal across the line, it absolutely epitomises the shambles Utd are. So absolutely they should be embarrassed.
@samgambino9695
@samgambino9695 Жыл бұрын
It’s embarrassing if Man Utd have wasted this much time on a player who doesn’t want to join them and joins Chelsea. It won’t be embarrassing if he joins Chelsea over Man Utd.
@superchris0110
@superchris0110 Жыл бұрын
@@samgambino9695 yes absolutely, that’s a very important distinction!!
@jamesryan955
@jamesryan955 Жыл бұрын
No way he’ll go to Chelsea.
@TwoBeatsApart
@TwoBeatsApart Жыл бұрын
Once again Simon is spot on; “language is important” and just because someone is saying something that you don’t like or agree with, doesn’t make them wrong.
@markparker4536
@markparker4536 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this and what Simon said in the video about the media shouldn’t use language to encourage outrage in fans but I can’t ignore the irony of him saying that in a video titled “Should Man United fans be ‘embarrassed’ if they don’t get De Jong”
@arroe8386
@arroe8386 Жыл бұрын
@@markparker4536 sounds like he called out his editor pre action 😂
@iandavis1723
@iandavis1723 Жыл бұрын
A broken clock is right twice a day...
@jerrylee2009
@jerrylee2009 Жыл бұрын
He still talks garbage half the time mate 😂
@nuncaolvidare4895
@nuncaolvidare4895 Жыл бұрын
Bang on the 💰 👏......this is rather referencing real life and not solely football here
@cryogenixoldskool5803
@cryogenixoldskool5803 Жыл бұрын
It's an embarrassment that United has wasted this much time on him
@vincentvries9854
@vincentvries9854 Жыл бұрын
They probably would have signed him already had they not try to bullshit everyone with the they are not overpaying on players anymore nonsense, and FDJ looks like he is just not interested and it has become a whole soap opera now and then they probably have to now overpay on alternative players.
@fearlessformidableferociou8623
@fearlessformidableferociou8623 Жыл бұрын
...and to think he was gonna b the rescuer...like di Maria, Ronalgo, Pogba etc...
@sicklymaad
@sicklymaad Жыл бұрын
Simon unwillingness to hold barca accountable for creating this mess exposes his bias. Why should players have to take abuse and pay cuts for poor executive decisions.
@Norpan506
@Norpan506 Жыл бұрын
He talks a lot.
@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073
@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 Жыл бұрын
Bias? He just said united are the biggest team in WF 😭
@petergriffin7671
@petergriffin7671 Жыл бұрын
He also said MU is the biggest club. But let's just choose to ignore that and talk about biases 👏
@tearup814
@tearup814 Жыл бұрын
Not the first fanbase to boos their players but definitely the first to get hated on. Hypocrites!
@SirPablo2Pablo
@SirPablo2Pablo Жыл бұрын
He has mentioned it before, but the point here is also manu should be embarrassed
@suffolkpompey
@suffolkpompey Жыл бұрын
If De Jong ends up at Chelsea, the every neutral fan will laugh their nuts off at Man Utd.
@catgladwell5684
@catgladwell5684 Жыл бұрын
We are well used to that. Real fans support through good times and bad
@itanison9581
@itanison9581 Жыл бұрын
Even as a utd fan i will laugh because this will actually be hilarious.Comedy FC.
@catgladwell5684
@catgladwell5684 Жыл бұрын
@@itanison9581If he thiinks he's getting stick from Barca fans, wait until he has to visit OT as a Chelsea player.
@fearlessformidableferociou8623
@fearlessformidableferociou8623 Жыл бұрын
@@catgladwell5684 ...in the ideal world...not utd fans though
@madlfcdc5890
@madlfcdc5890 Жыл бұрын
The De Jong situation epitomizes everything that is wrong with Man United. They overspend on bang-average English players, sign over the hill players as well as an egotistical 37 year old who once dumped them in their prime for another club, they have little to nothing in the way of academy talent and their salary structure is abysmal. NONE of these issues were present under Ferguson and they followed the Liverpool route after their glory days and made all the wrong choices. It's taken Liverpool decades to restore their power and it's even harder for United now as Liverpool and City are so dominant and consistent by accumulating 90 plus points a season to win titles. Chelsea have lots of money and a good squad and even they are finding it hard to compete. What hope do United have? United behave like they are one of the elite. It's time for the club to accept it's status, forget history and rebuild from the ground up. None of this "we are the biggest club in the world and have the right to be at the top" BS. Just get the basics right first. It takes TIME. It takes YEARS. Ole and other managers since Ferguson all tried quick expensive fixes but ignored the club's philosophy. Now United are a commercial enterprise money machine with no direction. Ten Hag won't fix that because he's trying to build on rotten foundations.
@flankspeed
@flankspeed Жыл бұрын
It's fair to say that a football club in England is a "club" , cradle to grave for the fanbase, and given good youth recruitment, often for players and staff alike. Man Utd are currently caught between two stools. A 'club' being run as a 'franchise'. Liverpool had the same problem with their last owners from the USA, but the current incumbents seem to get it. Oh. And the lack of youth development is absolutely part of it. Liverpool just improved Elliott's deal to sign him long term. Contrast that with, say, Pogba....
@heyheyhe0011
@heyheyhe0011 Жыл бұрын
I hope Frenkie stick to his gun and stick it to Barcelona by not taking the pay cut, demanding his deferred salary to be paid in full. If they don’t give in the his demands, I hope he stay in Barcelona and sabotage the entire football club.
@marlonandjosh
@marlonandjosh Жыл бұрын
he will die in catalunya if he does this
@ununseptium7961
@ununseptium7961 Жыл бұрын
I was getting ready to type the same exact thoughts.
@thelight2478
@thelight2478 Жыл бұрын
All barca haters that's beautiful to see man lmao
@richardstewart9085
@richardstewart9085 Жыл бұрын
@@thelight2478 how would you feel if the place you work, employed 5/6 new members of staff and told you that you either drop your wages or they are getting rid of you?
@thelight2478
@thelight2478 Жыл бұрын
@@richardstewart9085 Fdj is right to do what he does, it's his right. But if all the employees of the company have adjusted to the salary scale imposed by the club/company, then the club is also within its right to ask the player/employee to take a pay cut. Complex situation. What I would like in people's analysis is neutrality.
@mihir89
@mihir89 Жыл бұрын
Simon missing the point that Chelsea have Champions League.
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 Жыл бұрын
Frenkie has said multiple times he has no intention of leaving Barca. It's his dream club since he was young and he and his wife are very happy in the city.
@ideozublake8036
@ideozublake8036 Жыл бұрын
yeah but he needs to wake up & smell the coffee at this point. at least have some self respect & dignity. i mean they’re talking about taking him to court now & trying to paint him as the villain. that’s the club he loves apparently 💀
@mrmoe110
@mrmoe110 Жыл бұрын
So he’s willing to play for them for free? Players say all this stuff to make the fans feel good. But at the end of the day they want their millions
@MBison-vm6gq
@MBison-vm6gq Жыл бұрын
@@ideozublake8036 exactly. Have some self value and substance
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 Жыл бұрын
@@ideozublake8036 agree. It's like he has some kind of Stockholm syndrome. My point is the media is reporting as if this is a done deal but it's far from it. It's likely he will still be a Barca player come sept 1st.
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 Жыл бұрын
@@ideozublake8036 facts lol they offered him 6mil from the 17 they owe him and take a super reduced salary. Be a man and make a move that’s a violation
@SuperMyckie
@SuperMyckie Жыл бұрын
If i was in Frank de Jongs boots.. I'd stick to my stance.. no pay cut, get my full deferred wage, and will only move to a CL club that meets personal demands and clubs transfer value.. why in the world should i leave a club that is still busy chasing a numerous of expensive players including midfielders that play my position... it is terrible from Barca as an organization
@selkapsamson4443
@selkapsamson4443 Жыл бұрын
U guys don't understand anything about de Jong contract, he's not yet owed if he eventually leave barcelona this summer because he renewed a contract and he was ask in that contract to deffered his wages for two years then he will be pay more wages but if he end up leaving this summer then he is not owed and new club will have to pay him
@scott-w86
@scott-w86 Жыл бұрын
@@selkapsamson4443 maybe your right mate but if barca don’t hurry they can’t register any new signings hurry the clock is ticking
@ogedengbeabolade1453
@ogedengbeabolade1453 Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 all of you just want him to come to Chelsea y’all can keep dreaming. As a Barca fan I promise you dejong prefers to go to United. He will never join Chelsea. Here in Spain our media already published it he’s not going to Chelsea. He will prefer to reunite with ETH the man who made him. So Chelsea fans keep dreaming lol 😂
@GLAZERSOUT-oz8kh
@GLAZERSOUT-oz8kh Жыл бұрын
@@selkapsamson4443 your completely wrong 😂😂
@joestockton7016
@joestockton7016 Жыл бұрын
Man United should be embarrassed for so much more than this deal…
@RyanGRyan1985
@RyanGRyan1985 Жыл бұрын
Simon defending the shirt and ties till the death
@TheBigKing0
@TheBigKing0 Жыл бұрын
Simon “pitch a woo” Jordan
@arsmaster
@arsmaster Жыл бұрын
There’s quite a bit of “pot meet kettle” when Simon accuses media of hyperbole. This man regularly calls players, slobs, disgraces, etc etc. No integrity but it’s entertaining.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
The rumour is its been 13 weeks Man Utd have been speaking with De Jong about joining them. Where as it's took Chelsea like a week to convince De Jong to join them instead over Utd now that's hilarious.
@evernew23
@evernew23 Жыл бұрын
Rumours
@samwize28
@samwize28 Жыл бұрын
Glazers in the mud
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 Жыл бұрын
Dejong has not agreed to join Chelsea. Far from it, in fact.
@kobyabernethy1497
@kobyabernethy1497 Жыл бұрын
@@BirdLives7 dippers reporting rumours as fact as per.
@matthewh6719
@matthewh6719 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea have agreed a fee with Barcelona, as have Man United. But a deal hasn't been agreed between De Jong and either club as the unpaid wages issue has not been resolved.
@spyder4356
@spyder4356 Жыл бұрын
Is De Jong the only player left on the planet....what is going on 👀
@rodafowa1279
@rodafowa1279 Жыл бұрын
United recruitment team is a joke. ten Hag clearly doesn’t trust them, hence all of the targets being players he knows.
@fearlessformidableferociou8623
@fearlessformidableferociou8623 Жыл бұрын
Seems like it
@dellboy1775
@dellboy1775 Жыл бұрын
Both utd and the media should be embarrassed about the de Jong story. De Jong has said multiple times he does not want to go to utd that should have been end of the story but it's dragged on and on while pretending he hasn't already said he doesn't want to go to utd and utd should be embarrassed for chasing a player that doesn't want to play for them
@kobyabernethy1497
@kobyabernethy1497 Жыл бұрын
He has never said he won't go to united. He has said he wants to stay at barca. The rest is all journo bullshit to sell stories.
@sprinter1832
@sprinter1832 Жыл бұрын
@@kobyabernethy1497 Did De Jong tell you that personally??? LMFAO!🤣😂😅 Comedy club! PMSL!!
@kobyabernethy1497
@kobyabernethy1497 Жыл бұрын
@@sprinter1832 de Jong hasn't said anything that's the whole point🙄
@theamaranthineman574
@theamaranthineman574 Жыл бұрын
When a player WANTS to stay, but the club wants him to leave because of the mess THEY created > the player is the villain. When a player wants to leave for another club and/or more money, but the club doesn't want him to go > the player is the villain. Make up your minds football"fans". This is why NO player should ever be loyal to a club, because they always "really need you", unitl they don't. Then it's "F off, go away. Why are you being so difficult?!"
@Iamwhatyousayiam
@Iamwhatyousayiam Жыл бұрын
Basically most jobs
@AlanBourdillionTrehearne
@AlanBourdillionTrehearne Жыл бұрын
Jim White saying “get him over the door” 🤦🏼‍♂️
@biffyberry3559
@biffyberry3559 Жыл бұрын
6hh
@casualfocus1371
@casualfocus1371 Жыл бұрын
🤡 Talk sport pundits
@kennyliverpool8842
@kennyliverpool8842 Жыл бұрын
??
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC Жыл бұрын
He's back on the sauce
@Stinkmeaner420
@Stinkmeaner420 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGeneral_LUFC do you acc think he is?
@KingKong-ee8hc
@KingKong-ee8hc Жыл бұрын
I love the way Simon speaks the English language
@beerguy177
@beerguy177 Жыл бұрын
he should do a william gallas threaten to score own goals on purpose until he gets what he's owed
@adamp6401
@adamp6401 Жыл бұрын
Simon loves to pick and choose when he thinks language is important.
@casualfocus1371
@casualfocus1371 Жыл бұрын
The more I watch him the less i care for him
@Redman680
@Redman680 Жыл бұрын
@@casualfocus1371 I'm certain that he doesn't care
@jskyes8291
@jskyes8291 Жыл бұрын
This just reminds me of then utd went of sancho they dragged it out so long when he finally signed utd fans weren’t even excited about the signing anymore banter club
@keepscrolling6042
@keepscrolling6042 Жыл бұрын
United should just avoid big name transfers and scout for young talent, they’ll be better off in the long run
@jplay1i973
@jplay1i973 Жыл бұрын
"If they miss out on de Jong " ... Awesome! The player doesn't have the intention on leaving Barcelona, still! Does Manchester United have a chance? No, probably not! Because they've missed out on CL last season. As far as I know, de Jong remains with Barcelona and isn't going anywhere.
@sususegar
@sususegar Жыл бұрын
Disgusting how people in the media like Jim is enjoying getting a rise out of United fans by twisting and turning issues with negative spins. If Chelsea gets de Jong, it's only because their new owners are desperate enough to make a "statement of intention", not for football reasons. They're stacked in midfield, it's their defence that needs depth now. No one should be a bloody charity for Barcelona, one of the clubs that spearheaded the ESL movement for the exact reason and problems they facing now. For once I'm actually glad the United board is doing the right thing holding out.
@agitgoztas1396
@agitgoztas1396 Жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan… what a man!!!! More informative than most journalists 👏
@neutralfan..1627
@neutralfan..1627 Жыл бұрын
Some saying UTD will be embarrassed.. It's not the club but Ten Hag who have been given full control of signings.. He said on the pre-season tour that if he don't get him then he'll improve within.. It's all on him..
@tafsir5780
@tafsir5780 Жыл бұрын
It's madness that a buying club is going to pay another teams player wages, that the selling club ask to take a pay cut to help them out, this will open doors for other teams to do the same, take a pay cut help the team out & go somewhere else & the buying club will pay your wages it's madness
@aathamazhiqi3481
@aathamazhiqi3481 Жыл бұрын
Club above player. Any player. Why chase him almost indefinitely. The team is not settled as a result. The key area which is the midfield still in need of players. Shouldn't ETH be concerned about that. The season has started and there are still gaps in the midfield. Why a decision is still not made on FDJ? I think the manager should shoulder the blame just like how he played false 9 vs Brighton. I think RR was so much clearer and effective in his first match.
@RedDevilDog1207
@RedDevilDog1207 Жыл бұрын
If Chelsea get contract with Barca that doesn't equate to bring of done deal. Fair Play Simon
@alfonsodavidson6549
@alfonsodavidson6549 Жыл бұрын
Ruben Neves and Teilimons. Same 80mil or even 100 and we solve a part of our problem. My God we are a banter club
@jaymarjones876
@jaymarjones876 Жыл бұрын
It can't be. Gary Neville Comments Baffles Me he's talking like de jong is and ex man utd player 🤣 or he's currently playing for them. What these fans won't admit is that the lad doesn't wanna join man utd just admit it the Lad can choose whoever he wants to play for
@chrisahmed8660
@chrisahmed8660 Жыл бұрын
Well you will look silly if he now signs for united won't you
@jaymarjones876
@jaymarjones876 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisahmed8660 I won't look silly Gary Neville and 90% of United fans are already delusional
@jaymarjones876
@jaymarjones876 Жыл бұрын
@Simon T yeah we shall all see what he does soon
@matthewgee8122
@matthewgee8122 Жыл бұрын
Irrespective of whether United get him or not, he doesn't seem that keen to go there and his relationship with T-Hagg doesn't look particularly strong. Great start!
@ambience2001
@ambience2001 Жыл бұрын
Ten Hag needs to take a page out of Artetas book and get rid of the deadwood and install his own culture and the fans need to accept its going to be a rebuild with no quick fixes.
@DanChristoffer
@DanChristoffer Жыл бұрын
Simon really likes to square circles! Must me his favorite phrase at the moment 😅
@maw86
@maw86 Жыл бұрын
"should they just give De Jong" what he wants? Well yes Simon, because it's part of his contract haha. For someone with such business acumen, it shouldn't be so hard for you to understand.
@shaunsill4675
@shaunsill4675 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't happen to a better club!
@kobss
@kobss Жыл бұрын
Please remember that United actually have a deal in place for FDJ. That says a lot if in the end the move doesn’t happen.
@Ravaille
@Ravaille Жыл бұрын
Embarrassed? Not at all. Keeping Harry Maguire is proof that Man Utd has no shame. Shameless
@jonmorley8430
@jonmorley8430 Жыл бұрын
Simon is way off the mark on Barcelona. Mortgaging their future for the potential for short term success is awful business.. and of course it’s arrogance they convince players to join them then refuse to pay what was agreed knowing their fans will abuse and harass until the player concedes. It’s a nasty and arrogant way to act.
@chd1694
@chd1694 Жыл бұрын
Spot on Simon and jim
@rhysperegrine5100
@rhysperegrine5100 Жыл бұрын
We already are. Next question.
@andrewleah1983
@andrewleah1983 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea are United’s rivals? We’re not even rivals to Brighton.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Top LAD Proper Clobber - Am Right And Your Wrong Now That's Wise Advice For Anyone
@sideshowblob
@sideshowblob Жыл бұрын
I would love to know why they have kept it up for so long after the player has said several times he doesn't want to leave and Barca saying they don't want him gone either. Unless the board know something we don't, which is entirely possible but seems unlikely. I feel like they are trying to please the manager but ultimately making a balls of it. Now having to settle for Rabiot...it's an absolute joke.
@BBeowulf
@BBeowulf Жыл бұрын
Well for a start Barca are talking nonsense and they want him gone. They’re even starting a lawsuit against him to go back to his old contract retroactively so they don’t owe him any money. Second De Jong couldn’t say he wants to go to United even if he does. It will affect the above ^. He’s 100% leaving Barca whether it’s now or in January. He will probably go to Chelsea now they’re in for him though.
@alfonsodavidson6549
@alfonsodavidson6549 Жыл бұрын
United have no vision. No sense of recruiting strategy. We are such a failure. No hope in anything at this club
@holyflick312
@holyflick312 Жыл бұрын
well, Barca wants him to stay with reduced wages, if they can't do that they'd be happy to sell him
@mlsarchitect
@mlsarchitect Жыл бұрын
The lack of imagination of the EPL clubs and the British media and fanbase in general is truly astounding. The great Real Madrid are winning everything with a 19 year old Camavinga and young Tchouameni primed and ready to take up staring roles in midfield. Meanwhile we have MUFC obsessing on Frenkie De Jong while Barca is looking to off load young midfielders (Nico Gonzalez and Alex Collado) who would run rings around anyone in the present MUFC midfield. And please don't tell me about experience in the f'ing EPL -- tell it to Marc Cucurella (of Barca through Getafe).
@seb1554
@seb1554 Жыл бұрын
Agree except the fans are hardly responsible for who Man Utd sign. Most fans are sensible and wanted cheap, young and hungry signings. It’s the Glazers who want big 80m shirt sale signings which by the look of they can’t even actually afford anymore.
@VeryIntellijent
@VeryIntellijent Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if they miss out on him or not. Man Utd have already embarrassed themselves. The whole Man Utd heirarchy has been grovelling at his feet for the past 3 months. The board should have sat ETH down back in May and said "De Jong doesn't want to come, let's talk alternatives", but they were too desperate. Now they've accepted it and signed Casemiro, but have no progressive ball carrier to go alongside him. If they signed Casemiro 2 months ago they could have pipped Spurs to Bissouma, or Wolves to Matheus Nunes. Pogba leaving on a free just adds to that humiliation further. Chelsea have handled it the right way. Basically telling him they'll leave the door open and then carried on with business as usual.
@zakbar11
@zakbar11 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why Chelsea need another Midfielder especially if we're playing a 3 4 3, we're already overloaded. RLC and Jorginho probably need to leave.
@bountylad
@bountylad Жыл бұрын
So Simon…..what are you saying…..should United have paid the 17 million deferred salary? If United cannot win because if they pay the deferred salary they are a mug club but if Chelsea match United’s offer to Barca and pay the deferred salary and get De Jong then they are a genius. If United was not a big club then I can’t see how 60% of stories coming out of all these media outlets are about Manchester United so everyone is happy when things are not going well at United.
@petershortland478
@petershortland478 Жыл бұрын
How about we just accept United when it comes to quality players they have no cards to play that has any use
@dylanparker130
@dylanparker130 Жыл бұрын
Even though I'm an Everton fan & hope he signs for us, United could do a lot worse than getting Idrissa Gana Gueye from PSG. Asking price is under £10 million.
@PorkChopExpress86
@PorkChopExpress86 Жыл бұрын
Thought the same myself. Makes too much sense, united won't do it
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg Жыл бұрын
I can't believe they've not even asked West Ham the question over Declan Rice. Shows how much they've fallen and how muddled their thinking is.
@dylanparker130
@dylanparker130 Жыл бұрын
@@Matthew-bu7fg True, but WHU owners state their valuation to be £150 million. That's about twice the sum Barca want for FDJ. And United are unwilling to sort out the issue of de Jong's claim that he's owed £17 million by Barca. United could sign FDJ tomorrow if they gave FDJ that money themselves. They clearly don't want to spend that much. Which rules out Rice?
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg Жыл бұрын
@@dylanparker130 They don't seem to have even asked the question though which just seems so strange to me. And since when has Manchester United's heirarchy not operated with negotiations? That's how you should get business done, by negotiating a team down. Operationally, Manchester United seem utterly incompetent. I'm a Forest fan. Manchester United dwarf us in every way but honestly I think if there's one area we are winning at, it's recruitment.
@Bmozzi
@Bmozzi Жыл бұрын
" monumentally mind-blowingly preposterously stupid." - Simon Jordan hahaha
@sprinter1832
@sprinter1832 Жыл бұрын
Brett Mostert He certainly is 🤣 and a Bankrupt as well PMSL!
@bazms3460
@bazms3460 Жыл бұрын
As a Man utd fan i wouldnt get him. Leave him for Chelsea. Too expensive. Rather get three good young guns. Man utd need to build a solid squad of hungry players.
@tayosunmola1991
@tayosunmola1991 Жыл бұрын
If he goes to Chelsea. It’s because he wants to get back at Barca for what they’ve put him through to avoid moving to the club they went ahead and agree with in the first place.
@rodafowa1279
@rodafowa1279 Жыл бұрын
No, it wouldn’t mean that at all. United are an absolute joke. Chelsea are a club with ambitions to win trophies. Unless a player grows up a United fan, choosing between them and Chelsea isn’t even a debate, unless you’re in it solely for the money.
@richieboy2007
@richieboy2007 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea can agree all they want with Barcelona but the player hasn’t. Jim white as usual talking crap
@JamesG89
@JamesG89 Жыл бұрын
10 years ago Chelsea (my club) embarrassed themselves by not getting Aguero, I still wake up in cold sweats because of that decision
@HullRupture
@HullRupture Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the same thing happened with Hazard. He chased by utd but ended up at Chelsea. It would be another bad nail with a lot of bad nails right now but it wouldn't be an embarrassment in itself
@chriswilkinson7636
@chriswilkinson7636 Жыл бұрын
No because all clubs miss out on players sometimes for all sorts of reasons. It's just a fact of football.
@welshhibby
@welshhibby Жыл бұрын
United are not a big club any more…..it’s a fact
@lIIIIIIlllll
@lIIIIIIlllll Жыл бұрын
Yes they are
@lIIIIIIlllll
@lIIIIIIlllll Жыл бұрын
If man united lose there still talked about more then any club
@tamilmaran7067
@tamilmaran7067 Жыл бұрын
Player have right to choose which club he wants. Manchester United can't fight for title. Only 3 team are capable to win the title Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. Now Arsenal and Spurs are the next strongest team now. Manchester United are in the level of Aston Villa, West Ham, Brighton. They are considered middle table team now.
@jbalnaves
@jbalnaves Жыл бұрын
Ermmmm Simon is missing a lot of things here. Last season Barca had the same issues and lost Messi, Griezmann due to it + Pique, Busquets etc took paycuts to stay. This will effect them and some of their players again.
@TheSnazah
@TheSnazah Жыл бұрын
Wow what like to be de jong, to be ousted by the club you want to play for and has Chelsea or MU to choose from…..
@davidtawse6765
@davidtawse6765 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think he'll be a liability at Chelsea or United, he clearly doesn't want to join either club (doesn't want to leave Barca period by the look of it) I think we should pull out, good player but from recent experience; signing a player who doesn't want to be there doesn't tend to end well.
@azizelhag7860
@azizelhag7860 Жыл бұрын
So what if Chelsea get him, I don't think that's happening. United we get him or not get him. We will always support that team. It would not be embarrassing at all. Because I love how ETH is approaching our transfer policy. Not quantity but quality and right players. Not de Jong nor ETH publicly stated that FDj doesn't want to join
@ashwinms4286
@ashwinms4286 Жыл бұрын
The only way de jong goes to Chelsea is if Chelsea offers to pay the player the wages Barca owes and Barca pushes him out.. I don't think de jong doesn't want to go man u.... if u noticed earlier.... regarding some targets Manu went for the moment they realized the player wants to move elsewhere they backed out from the beginning..look at Darwin.. So for Manchester united to still go behind de jong is probably because they know de jong is interested in moving... That's why they are going for rabiot..instead of spending big money on someone else...just in case de jong wage issue gets resolved......
@bazmina
@bazmina Жыл бұрын
De Jong doesn't want to join man utd. Why would he? They're not playing CL, they've got a weaker squad than last season, obvious dressing room problems and relentless media leaks about how bad the setup is. The argument about owed wages is just 1 part of the story, the other part is that if he leaves he's going to a winning club. That isn't man utd these days
@SDCLFC1
@SDCLFC1 Жыл бұрын
"Barcelona have never had a player they've signed and not been able to register them" - ahh......Messi?
@CJ-rp1bn
@CJ-rp1bn Жыл бұрын
"Should Man Utd be embarrassed?" the IF part isn't even neccessary.
@Mr_Hassell
@Mr_Hassell Жыл бұрын
Answer, yes they should.
@davidcunningham9282
@davidcunningham9282 Жыл бұрын
hate saying it as a united supporter but why would any elite level player go there? it's a completely dysfunctional club who can't offer champion's league football this season, and more than likely not next season either. and if de jong sasw that performance last weekend he'd have to be out of his mind to go there
@ianconstable7969
@ianconstable7969 Жыл бұрын
I think Chelsea are just bidding for any players that there rivals are interested in to raise the transfer value. Which I have to admit is pure genius
@Jm-nc1mk
@Jm-nc1mk Жыл бұрын
Until they’re the mugs paying the inflated fee
@nikolas_kudz1545
@nikolas_kudz1545 Жыл бұрын
@@Jm-nc1mk who care as long they are good additions 🤷🏿‍♂️
@holyflick312
@holyflick312 Жыл бұрын
If that was the case they would have done so when a United deal seemed realistic
@Mewsfinder
@Mewsfinder Жыл бұрын
No Del Boy ?
@kwilliams5260
@kwilliams5260 Жыл бұрын
Psg eyeing up rashford. Possible swap for ETH. Maybe vitinha swap... heres to hoping
@geekygeekyenthusiastenthus8663
@geekygeekyenthusiastenthus8663 Жыл бұрын
Didn't FDJ tell his teammates that he would prefer Chelsea over Man United (if he had to leave)? Thought that was a story that broke a week or so ago.
@jacksingh4033
@jacksingh4033 Жыл бұрын
Too be honest am not a utd fan I said this before and again stability it's a business now not a game give time and let him build a team the problem is the media hounding everyone patience is virtually Rome was not build in 1 day
@NLIR-nz6zb
@NLIR-nz6zb Жыл бұрын
Can't see any world class baller wanting to join utd it ain't that club anymore
@stwads
@stwads Жыл бұрын
United sadly won't be able to attract the top, top players until they qualify again for the Champions league. I wouldn't want De Jong now anyway as it looks like he's just been stringing Ten Hag along!
@rabmc
@rabmc Жыл бұрын
The Manchester United fans need to get used to it, not at all I think the media need to get used to United’s position. Then fans have adapted pretty well given the size of the fan base.
@recruitmentch
@recruitmentch Жыл бұрын
Simon 'Man Utd are the biggest club in the world' Jordan.
@erikhalvorseth3950
@erikhalvorseth3950 Жыл бұрын
In this instant, the commercial value of United probably drops at an exponentional rate. If nothing else, the Glazers should at least pic up on that.
@andrecole996
@andrecole996 Жыл бұрын
As a united fan I really don't want him at the club anymore. Any1 not rushing to come leave them alone...
@santosmarious9621
@santosmarious9621 Жыл бұрын
I Love You SIMON ❤️❤️❤️
@HarshiLLmusic
@HarshiLLmusic Жыл бұрын
Yes yes and yes
@hlockeyLFC7
@hlockeyLFC7 Жыл бұрын
should 100% be embarrassed. He doesn't want to go there and instead of moving onto other midfield targets they go into another season with mctominay and Fred.
@adrianwaullenbach1298
@adrianwaullenbach1298 Жыл бұрын
Jim White does an excellent job here lol!
@timewithoutconsequence4611
@timewithoutconsequence4611 Жыл бұрын
Am I wrong? But is Jim right? Surely not.
@mickcardiff3044
@mickcardiff3044 Жыл бұрын
I don't think De Jong want's to play for Ten Hag again...
@guitarmagic3000
@guitarmagic3000 Жыл бұрын
They should have walked along time ago. Not even a good deal. So many more players in other leagues
@sim1isagodatbuilds896
@sim1isagodatbuilds896 Жыл бұрын
But what about Gary Neville and Wayne Rooney , Simon ??? (Joel glazer can’t press)
@stuartwilson1816
@stuartwilson1816 Жыл бұрын
Best line from Simon j every your language is important it is. I don't even like SJ bony rethortic is key
@michaelandreou4996
@michaelandreou4996 Жыл бұрын
How can Chelsea get De Jong though. They have signed Sterling, Koulibaly, Cuccarella, The Aston Villa midfielder and that Keeper all for about 150 million. They are bidding more than 70 million for Fofana and need a striker and are going for Aubameyang. How can they spend 250 million and then spend another 70 on De Jong? You can't spend 320 million in one Window??
@mohammedabdulhameed3177
@mohammedabdulhameed3177 Жыл бұрын
They will also sell some players as well, don't forget that
@michaelandreou4996
@michaelandreou4996 Жыл бұрын
@@mohammedabdulhameed3177 who? They have lost Rudiger and Christiensen for free. Werner has gone for 25M. Ziyech might go just for 15m or so. Who else is realistically leaving for enough money to make a 350 million transfer spend work??
@nikolas_kudz1545
@nikolas_kudz1545 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreou4996 Chelsea net spend in the last 5 years is great, so they are good
@chazzmo1
@chazzmo1 Жыл бұрын
MUFC PLC have sold all the season tickets and nearly all the Internet and order tickets … They advertise what they’re going to do to strengthen and challenge and sell all the tickets and then renege on that business promise which almost stinks of fraudulent advertising 🤷‍♂️
@michafrica
@michafrica Жыл бұрын
Simon is smart the other one is no point to mention
@morestupidforms
@morestupidforms Жыл бұрын
However you look at it, UTD are not as big as they once were. It's not something that can be fixed by bringing in a manager alone. They need to hit the hard reset button, it will take years.
@temujin1645
@temujin1645 Жыл бұрын
Ten hag is replicating ajax instead of building manutd stronger...he should focus on buying savic,tieleman.. Or even milan skirnier a strong central defender.. Instead of wasting 75 to 85 m on dejong
@armanvranka7520
@armanvranka7520 Жыл бұрын
Savic is horrible
@temujin1645
@temujin1645 Жыл бұрын
@@armanvranka7520 bro watch his highlight its far better than mctominay,fred,martial,rashford combine
@robinlabouche2230
@robinlabouche2230 Жыл бұрын
Someone asked de jong which club he wanted to join saying "Take your time with the answer...Chelsea or Ma" ...... "Chelsea" .... 🤣
@Redmen1983
@Redmen1983 Жыл бұрын
Simon you wrong on this Barcelona stuff.... pay him what he is owed. End of
@holyflick312
@holyflick312 Жыл бұрын
It's just that he seemingly is the only one in all of english media that seems to know that Barca doesn't actually owe Frenkie money
@waterboys3001
@waterboys3001 Жыл бұрын
Boehly is doing a good job and is listening to the coaching staff. Boehly is a billionaire and is used to negotiating deals. He also owns a sports team in the US. It's his money and he knows what he can afford to pay. Souness and Neville were good players but the game has changed since their day. It is more professional. Maria and Buck overpaid for a lot of duds. Knowing the suits you are negotiating with had mixed results.
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