Goldstein And Cundy DEBATE 'The Phil FODEN Problem' 🤔🗣️

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Andy Goldstein and Jason Cundy debate what Gareth Southgate should do to get the best out of Phil Foden, or whether he should start at all...
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@Anchises
@Anchises 3 ай бұрын
Fabregas made a great point about how subs send a message to both teams. Defensive subs signal to your team to sit back, and signal to the opposition that you feel vulnerable. Bringing on Palmer and Gordon at the 60 minute mark would have put us back on the front foot.
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 3 ай бұрын
@Anchises Underrated comment
@123daniel4
@123daniel4 3 ай бұрын
Foden already done the damage. He is failing Southgate. Those subs were to protect the lead. An unfit Saka is Messi compared to Foden. Foden has no excuse. People have so much hope for Foden. Saka unfit still performs. How can you not perform and still play the next game. Look what Rooney did all those years ago even a young Owen. Playing someone who doesn't want it is bad for morale. Gorden is the new Owen and Eze. Unleash them. Foden isn't the Jesus you all are hoping for. I hope the manager ignores the noise and play the hungry players.
@alibabashero
@alibabashero 3 ай бұрын
Never was a game more analysed on before and England won. Just imagine England lost.
@davidknell8831
@davidknell8831 3 ай бұрын
Agreed! But it was obvious foden wasn’t working and we had players on the bench to solve the problem! Why doesn’t he do it! ??? Tell me someone
@JimmyChino55
@JimmyChino55 3 ай бұрын
@@monkey39128 Most of the big boys didn't sit back for 70 mins and get totally dominated by lesser opposition.
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 3 ай бұрын
I tell you something- Foden is NO Paul Scholes is he???! 😅🤣
@vosey7969
@vosey7969 3 ай бұрын
For once I agree with Cundy. Kane comes too deep and Foden doesn’t play wide meaning Kane Bellingham and Foden are getting in each others way.
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 3 ай бұрын
Funny enough Kane didn't drop deep much in that match The thing Bellingham who was playing 10 spent more time in the left wing than he did centrally and getting in the way of foden It's either you play Phil in the 10 and drop Jude to his actual position in the 8 cuz his play style is literally that of an 8 If they don't play foden in the 10 just bench Phil for God sake
@jimtatum7344
@jimtatum7344 3 ай бұрын
@@BiggestBirdonMars I don't think 8 is Bellingham's position, like the caller said he is the best in the world at the 10, he plays there for Madrid and England and has proved that's where he is most effective. I agree with what you say though, if you're not going to play Foden in 10 (or at least RW) then bench him. It doesn't mean we're wasting him, we can still bring him off from the bench and he can impact games.
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 3 ай бұрын
@@jimtatum7344 that's the thing Just doesn't actually play 10 when he's on the pitch even for Madrid it england He moves everywhere on the pitch He plays box to box,an all action 8 who's good at almost everything he doesn't necessarily create or playmaker for Madrid That is Kroos job He plays like an 8 and not a 10 Yesterday he scored but he didn't create anything threatening or even a key pass All the things he does RN as the "#10" he'll still do those things if he plays 8 cuz truth is that he did everything except for the job of a #10🤷🏻 He played 8 at Dortmund It's where he's best at When mbappe comes back he'll go back to that position which is why Madrid want to buy wirtz They wouldn't be planning to buy wirtz if Bellingham was a 10
@KevinSheedy10
@KevinSheedy10 3 ай бұрын
@@jimtatum7344Bellingham is never a 10, he doesn’t have the right skill set. He plays false 9 for Real Madrid and will play 8 for them next year if they get an actual striker.
@Dannye70
@Dannye70 3 ай бұрын
These two muppets were putting the phone down on callers after the last euro final because people were saying Southgates tactics were negative after we scored now roll on 3 years it's still the same tactics but these two have changed their tune I see.
@KINGKING10109
@KINGKING10109 3 ай бұрын
It’s the definition of Insanity
@pjoseph5950
@pjoseph5950 3 ай бұрын
Southgate is protected and always has been
@markLawley-g8u
@markLawley-g8u 3 ай бұрын
You are right
@danh4859
@danh4859 3 ай бұрын
If Foden is as good as we are constantly being told, he can play as a left sided forward player. He’s not helped by a lack of a left footed LB, certainly - but he should be good enough. Manager makes some wrong calls too in fairness, Gordon or Eze could have changed the dynamic.
@Escape2FreedomAsap
@Escape2FreedomAsap 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely not…like a little kid out there
@dannyp2833
@dannyp2833 3 ай бұрын
This is probably gonna be Southgate’s last tournament. Just go for it mate.
@purehyperbole5727
@purehyperbole5727 3 ай бұрын
Foden is a good player but he only looks world class in that Man City team. He doesn't break games like Bale could.
@Escape2FreedomAsap
@Escape2FreedomAsap 3 ай бұрын
He don’t look world class anytime 😂we’ve been forced to except that narrative…he’s a good player in the EPL not world class at all
@stuartblandford2310
@stuartblandford2310 3 ай бұрын
The problem with all this is that everyone can see it as clear as day apart from Southgate.
@AllSeeingAllKnowing-p8o
@AllSeeingAllKnowing-p8o 3 ай бұрын
Foden hasn't had a good game for England in years. 35 caps with just 4 goals and he's called the English Messi 🤣 He has played on both wings and in his favorite position in the middle creating absolute nowt. Against Iceland he had a free reign and was anonymous. Face the fact he's shyte for England. Bellingham is arguably the best no 10 in world football now. Palmer soon to properly challenge that spot when being trusted by management. Pep turned his back on Palmer and must now regret that. He knows what a big mistake he made. Is Southgate going to make that same mistake for his nation?
@DavidStepho92
@DavidStepho92 3 ай бұрын
Cole Palmer is the guy
@KevinSheedy10
@KevinSheedy10 3 ай бұрын
Bellingham isn’t a number 10.
@TheHonestSpeaker
@TheHonestSpeaker 3 ай бұрын
​@@DavidStepho92so is that flag you got
@DavidStepho92
@DavidStepho92 3 ай бұрын
@@TheHonestSpeaker What do you mean?
@warwickhunt
@warwickhunt 3 ай бұрын
Cundy speaking sense, what the hell's going on?
@omidamani3484
@omidamani3484 3 ай бұрын
Why is everyone trying to make England fit to work for one player. We had this with trying to make gerard and lampard work. Make the team balanced for the formation you want to play, if it doesn't work with foden in that position take foden out and select a player who it would work better with. Yes he is a talent but its about the team, out Gordon or Eze on the left if it works better, its not about who is a better player it's about who is better in that position for that formation Also let's chill out, it's only group stages no one wants to peak too early
@ImperfectAnalysis
@ImperfectAnalysis 3 ай бұрын
The problem is not Foden. You can never expect to get the most out of creative intelligent players when we play an extremely defensive formation, that no player in the team is used to at their club teams. Whether they are in their usual position or not, they are not encouraged to go forward, take risks or attack. There is no movement. Sometimes they will play one dimension direct football down the wings until we go a goal up. Then its basically 10 men behind the ball, hold the lead. The problem is Southgate. No player on the pitch is responsible for his lack of desire to attack and win games in style or even convincingly.
@Aaron-zh7qm
@Aaron-zh7qm 3 ай бұрын
Foden has never been a good England starter
@jonchapman86
@jonchapman86 3 ай бұрын
Southgates subs have always been a abit weird. It's almost like they're pre planned.
@usernameheda
@usernameheda 3 ай бұрын
wouldn't surprise me as he has 0 capacity to respond in the moment
@Aaron-zh7qm
@Aaron-zh7qm 3 ай бұрын
Foden is literally better off the bench
@HayleyWright-dp3vn
@HayleyWright-dp3vn 3 ай бұрын
@talksport please clip and post later part of this conversation when they discussed what John barnes said on breakfast 😂
@Frank-dr9tc
@Frank-dr9tc 3 ай бұрын
Cundy answering Andy’s questions like a politician 😂
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 3 ай бұрын
Foden only benefits if we keep possession longer it’s how he’s more effective at City but I’d still use him in rotation in midfield if we go to a back 3 as we can still have Bellingham, Mainoo and Rice there
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp 3 ай бұрын
Mainoo? He shouldn’t be anywhere near getting on the pitch. We just needed a Gordon or Eze on the left to offer more width down the left as once the opposition had realised we were stinking it up down the left they just tripped up on the right to stop all the joy saka was having and Southgate still didn’t change it 😂 a blind man could see it but apparently Southgate couldn’t 🤷🏽‍♂️
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 3 ай бұрын
@@Lovelydropp yeah it was easy to stop Saka n ignore our weak left that was obvious. But pundits r asking how can we fit our 4 top midfielders on the pitch at the same time. Putting club agenda aside I do think Mainoo is better on the pitch than Foden if we don’t have the ball unless you go to a back 3 n use them both which Southgate wouldn’t
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp 3 ай бұрын
@@newhappiness4410 well we have the ball for 75%+ of the time so that doesn’t make any sense. And your talking about taking off the premier league player of the season and replacing him with a CDM that’s had a handful of bang average games? Bowen will play as a 10 before Mainoo plays anywhere in the midfield 3. Simple solution put Bellingham in his natural position next to Rice and Foden at the 10… Eze or Gordon on the left
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 3 ай бұрын
@@Lovelydropp you miss understand my point I’m afraid I didn’t say take Foden off. I’m simply finding a way to include him in his natural position n that is 2 choices we have cover on the left OR we go to a back 3. Mainoo added to Foden, Bellingham n Rice but ONLY in a back 3
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp 3 ай бұрын
@@newhappiness4410 oh I get u but no there’s no place for 2 CDM’s. Rice has more than enough on his hands being a lonely DM, he doesn’t need the responsibility to carry another DM next to him. Rice and Mainoo were atrocious together against Iceland
@clipped6963
@clipped6963 3 ай бұрын
Drop Foden. Put Gordon left wing. Jude central and then your being Mainoo or Walton to partner Rice. The shirt is too heavy for Foden we have seen him coward away for 4+ years
@robertgreen9717
@robertgreen9717 3 ай бұрын
They thought the subs made a difference. Correct they were worse!
@Edyoucation-fe1qq
@Edyoucation-fe1qq 3 ай бұрын
This isn’t a debate - played at 10 he’s one of the most effective players on the planet and the best player in the prem. played on the wing (for England) he’s got a ceiling of 7/10. Drop Trent, play Gordon.
@bsow7524
@bsow7524 3 ай бұрын
Cundy idea was excellent going 4.1.4 formation Gordon LW,Saka RW Foden 10 Jude helping Rice and attacking at the same time
@kyankaaga
@kyankaaga 3 ай бұрын
The problem with England is that they have got more good attackers..than good holders of the ball.. In most cases ,the team lacks shape.
@Toon1893
@Toon1893 3 ай бұрын
Play Foden as a 10, this debate about Foden or Bellingham there i don't understand, Bellingham goes all over the pitch for England anyway, at times he was making tackles at LB or taking the ball from CB's, they aren't stupid to occupy the same space or not track back, theres no more protection with Trent in their, Eze or Gordon on the left work defensively as well where Foden on the left doesn't
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp 3 ай бұрын
Literally 😂 Bellingham’s natural position that hes played his whole life has been as a box to box midfielder… apart from this last season at Madrid where he’s played striker purely because there wasn’t a striker in the whole club. Put him back in his natural position that he knows best next to rice and play Foden in the 10. Jude still scores goals as the 8. People here are talking like an 8 doesn’t make the late runs into the box 😂 clueless
@oseirabor1467
@oseirabor1467 3 ай бұрын
Foden doesn't need to play. If it doesn't work with him then drop him for someone who can play the left side better. Argentina dropped Lautaro Martinez for Julian Alvarez in the WC when Martinez was underperforming. Scaloni dropped Papau Gomez for MacAlister. He dropped Paredes and Guido for Enzo Fernandes. It's a freaking short tournament, players don't have luxury to dip out of form and regain form. If a player doesn't fit or doesn't play well, drop him for someone else who can do better. That's why you've got 26 players.
@MrJoromekiq1
@MrJoromekiq1 3 ай бұрын
Italy had a similar problem in 2006 with Totti and Del Piero. And Del Piero was usually on the bench
@luxorora5370
@luxorora5370 3 ай бұрын
There you go!!! Foden just doesn’t work for England for whatever reason so he needs to be dropped
@jimmynext5375
@jimmynext5375 3 ай бұрын
In my honest opinion Foden is overrated and only thrived due to the Guardiola system and play style of Man City, I predict Foden will not perform well for England, it’s too much to ask of him and he doesn’t have the capabilities to carry a team like England
@luxorora5370
@luxorora5370 3 ай бұрын
@@jimmynext5375 I agree
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 3 ай бұрын
If people think jude can't or shouldnt play 8 are ridiculous he already plays like an 8 everytime He spends more time in the wide areas than in central positions as well,he crashes the box,wins duels,can control the game from deep Can drive with the ball from defense to attack but sometimes he doesnt wanna make that pass forward ,he wants to be more involved in everything everywhere almost getting in the way of foden on that left wing alot He be doing too much sometimes Bellingham playing an 8 would only make that midfield balanced England can play a 3 at the back as wlel
@rujaywhitehorne5155
@rujaywhitehorne5155 3 ай бұрын
So did that mean that Bellingham is playing out of position and performing well? Thought that was impossible for "world class" players
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 3 ай бұрын
@@rujaywhitehorne5155 Jude is an all action 8 it's alot easier for him If Jude was stamped to the left wing it would be alot harder for him to affect games
@jmk1233
@jmk1233 3 ай бұрын
You start by saying he plays like an 8 and then go on to say that he spends more time on the wing. The problem will be discipline in positioning and getting caught in transition against the better teams leaving Rice exposed. It's maybe worth a try, but if we don't think it can work against the top teams then it's a waste of time trying the formation out.
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 3 ай бұрын
@@jmk1233 I said he spends more time out wide than in the 10 He's everywhere I said he does everything but the job of a 10 If he was right next to rice and was little more disciplined with his position it would benefit the entire team overall cuz he has the athleticism to get up and down the pitch and win duels, makes interceptiond as well
@KevinSheedy10
@KevinSheedy10 3 ай бұрын
@@rujaywhitehorne5155He is playing in the 10 position but he isn’t playing that role properly.
@darrenlally-ro2wl
@darrenlally-ro2wl 3 ай бұрын
Why isn’t it “the Trent problem” rather than just slagging him off. If Trent plays he needs runners and the only one Is Saka
@xray3017
@xray3017 3 ай бұрын
Pickford Walker -stones -Guehi - trippier Bellingham - Rice Saka - Foden Eze Kane
@pjoseph5950
@pjoseph5950 3 ай бұрын
Not a bad shout
@nayden5834
@nayden5834 3 ай бұрын
I like Eze but I would Edge Gordon as he more naturally a LW and has some cohesion with Tripps at Club level.
@Marley999888
@Marley999888 3 ай бұрын
Pep could put Foden at centerback and he'd still play better than that second half.I personally rate Phil above everyone else in that squad (apart from Jude) but he does need to take responsibility for his own poor performance.His loose passes had nothing to do with where he was played.Southgate is a good human being and was a class defender but as a top manager he's absolutely woeful.When I saw the post match interview with him talking about being more clinical with our chances I almost dropped my burger...I mean was he even watching the game??...it sounded like he hadn't taken anything in and just guessed a line to say.We win nothing with him as manager...that's a fact.
@Jambalayaorb
@Jambalayaorb 3 ай бұрын
Madness playing Trent in midfield just because he can whip a ball. There are players who can put a more than capable ball in
@LailandiAdventures
@LailandiAdventures 3 ай бұрын
It's very simple, who do you prefer, Led Zeppelin or The Yardbirds? One's an original band that works together and the other's a super group. Play the players that compliment the style but Southgate doesn't have a distinctive style.
@MrJoromekiq1
@MrJoromekiq1 3 ай бұрын
Why not play with two number10s like City. Rice should be fine as a single pivot. He's supposed to be better than Rodri, right ?
@Anchises
@Anchises 3 ай бұрын
Arsenal improved massively when they stopped playing Rice as a single pivot and brought in Jorginho.
@olekmasidnoz9182
@olekmasidnoz9182 3 ай бұрын
Foden simply needs to moved to the right or midfield. Hes clearly way better in those positions. In my opinion Foden a better RW than Saka and a bettter 8 or 10 than Bellingham. Last season proved that
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 3 ай бұрын
Foden has never performed for England. He got played in number 10 role for England and was rubbish. Bellingham got player of season in La Liga and Madrid won the champions league. Bellingham twice the player Foden is. Foden has barely been able to secure a place in City until last season. He can only do well if he has all the comfort of playing in pep's team. Outside of that, he's just a decent player.
@MinisterManDan
@MinisterManDan 3 ай бұрын
On Foden's best day he is not the player Bellingham is. Quit listening to media who are bitter Bellingham spurned the premier league and are desperate to pretend someone else is better than him.
@nayden5834
@nayden5834 3 ай бұрын
No we need saka to run in behind defence, foden likes it too feet and then move on the half turn. Also Foden aint better than Bellingham Period. Jude has more to his game than Foden, defensively and going forward. Super versatile.
@D1A112
@D1A112 3 ай бұрын
Foden best position is a 10 not on the wing
@MinisterManDan
@MinisterManDan 3 ай бұрын
@@D1A112That's nice for him, is the purpose of Team England to aggrandize Foden or win ball games? Because if it's to win ball games then Bellingham needs to be able to get up the pitch and Foden either needs to figure out the wing or sit on the bench.
@kolowentingz2178
@kolowentingz2178 3 ай бұрын
However he played 90minutes against Iceland with no effect
@kolowentingz2178
@kolowentingz2178 3 ай бұрын
He is a good player, however for city's style of play and the players around. If Eze or Gordon were playing it would have allowed trent to be more effective as they can run behind and also come in
@willi-ams7798
@willi-ams7798 3 ай бұрын
excuse after excuse.
@adverts1
@adverts1 3 ай бұрын
People say that City buy the best and therefore win trophies. Southgate has the best players available and yet most performances are uninspiring and no trophies on the table. His tactical decisions are so inferior to most Premier League managers.
@ulfanfinneriksen4643
@ulfanfinneriksen4643 3 ай бұрын
That 6 is what everyone want to see Cundy. Me, you, Shearer, Lineker and Rooney..
@kevinpillay6103
@kevinpillay6103 3 ай бұрын
No matter how many talented players you need balance. TAA Is not needed and Bellingham should be in the 2 with Rice. If they want more protection then Rice and either Wharton; Mainoo or Gallagher and Foden benched.
@usernameheda
@usernameheda 3 ай бұрын
it's the only answer. would like to see rice with wharton personally
@girltal.k
@girltal.k 3 ай бұрын
Everyone says nooow ,oh id drop lampard,.or gerrard ,but when i think even now, knowing it didnt work, i am still trying to fit them both in
@villainofthepiste8275
@villainofthepiste8275 3 ай бұрын
If Southgate had any balls he'd tell Kane- "You're a striker, stay the F*** up front!!!" The trouble being Southgate loves players who play defensively all over the damn pitch
@schwahtv6652
@schwahtv6652 3 ай бұрын
England will never win. Spain had Cazorla, fabregas, xavi, Iniesta, Xabi Alonso, David silva. Its all about the system
@nayden5834
@nayden5834 3 ай бұрын
What ppl need to get is that the formation when u see it before the game is not what it ACTUALLY is when you have possession & vice versa especially when u have players allowed to roam and interchange. If you have Jude next to rice and Foden as a 10 for example in possession it becomes a 4-1-4-1 or even a 3-2-4-1 almost.... out of possession it's a 5-4-1 ideally. Point being I would take the gamble and drop a CM for a Wide left player to then move Foden centrally. Jude tracks backs and makes runs into the box anyway that's his game.
@_Tyy.Boogie
@_Tyy.Boogie 3 ай бұрын
One thing I ask everyone who believes Foden HAS to start is how many good performances has he had in an England shirt
@TheTaydak
@TheTaydak 3 ай бұрын
if they play him in the right place we might see his talent you can not argue he's been one of the best players this year in the prem and he's stuck out on the left and we play all our football down the right to Saka lol it's comical watching it he's not having bad games he's just not involved.
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 3 ай бұрын
​@TheTaydak what on earth are you on about? He played number 10 in two friendlies before Euros was rubbish. Oh and Bellingham got voted player of the season in La Liga and played a key role in their league and champions league success. Also, Bellingham performs for England. Listen I get Foden is white, but this is ridiculous.
@olusijidavid
@olusijidavid 3 ай бұрын
Not like Foden wasn't voted Player of the season in the PL himself 😂
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 3 ай бұрын
​@@AlbertEinstein-mp3mbhe's literally only played the 10 once and that was against iceland
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 3 ай бұрын
@@BiggestBirdonMars He's literally NEVER performed for England and when he got his chance at no 10 for Iceland he was awful. He needs to get the best out of himself. It's not anyone else's job. Some people can't translate league form to international form. I think he's just one of those players.
@kierancali
@kierancali 3 ай бұрын
I’ve always stuck up for Southgate but this tournament he’ll be the reason why we don’t win anything & his decisions are looking worse with every decision he’s made in previous tournaments
@TheAlleycat0909
@TheAlleycat0909 3 ай бұрын
You can't play Bellingham next to Rice. Even with Gallagher in there we were still getting opened up by Serbia. But Gallagher is the best option and Foden will have to make way for Gordon. Pace on the wings is needed.
@michaeldavies5889
@michaeldavies5889 3 ай бұрын
If we win the euros with Gareth in charge I will eat my own poo. We will lose and he will manage UTD and that makes my day!!!
@Mr.BednaR
@Mr.BednaR 3 ай бұрын
Looking back at this... would Grealish sort it out?
@vosey7969
@vosey7969 3 ай бұрын
No
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp 3 ай бұрын
He’s exactly what we needed but the funnier thing is we had Eze and Gordon who can both play that same roll. Not as well I’d admit but it was what we needed all game. Saka had another great game but once the opposition realised we had NOTHING coming down the left with Foden and Trippier stinking it up they just double & tripled up on Saka and now we had nothing down either side 😂 and then Southgate brought on a like for like with Bowen for Saka who also couldn’t get any joy as they had tripled up on the right as we still had nothing coming down the left 😂 a blind man could see we needed the left changing even before half time
@Mr.BednaR
@Mr.BednaR 3 ай бұрын
@@Lovelydropp there were 2 or 3 brilliant passes from the right... but there was literally no one on the left closing it. It was weird to watch as it should be 3-0. Im a huge fan of English football but that waste was odd to watch. Yesterday on talksport radio on of the lads mentioned that leaving left flank unoccupied was part of their tactical plan. Foden is better in the centre, granted, but what an odd thing to say...
@Mu77er
@Mu77er 3 ай бұрын
It's a Southgate problem, because he won't play him in his position. Pundits everywhere now saying is this a similar Gerrard and Lampard issue where they can't play together. Get a grip, fools. Goldstein you're a total tool
@keitholiver6152
@keitholiver6152 3 ай бұрын
stop mentioning bloody Eze, you need Gordon on the LW. Pace, power, direct. A very intelligent player who has a1 movement. He will force teams back, stretch opposing teams, and give our midfielders someone to pass to running in behind
@dav147
@dav147 3 ай бұрын
Depends on what you call a 10? an AM or second striker
@LittleBobbleProductions
@LittleBobbleProductions 3 ай бұрын
The pattern had already emerged before the break and was heading towards that all too familiar tense finale. Why didn't Southgate make the changes at half time? He should have replaced Trippier, Trent and Foden. It was clear to everyone, this wasn't working.
@CB-ms2cq
@CB-ms2cq 3 ай бұрын
It’s simple sack Southgate ASAP. And play foden at the 10 on the right so he can cut onto his left where he plays his best. Chucking foden LW makes no sense. Put Jude at the 8 it’s his natural position it’s the easiest job for any manager to pick a team and we still haven’t even seen foden and Jude play this yet. It’s not good not knowing what’s Englands best side and still experimenting playing players in different positions.
@thereallcee503
@thereallcee503 3 ай бұрын
Couldnt agree more lads, you can't bench foden, you just can't. Get him in his natural 10 position or play him in the 7 for saka
@rudolftang4750
@rudolftang4750 3 ай бұрын
Southgate doesn't like Foden
@SirLilo99
@SirLilo99 3 ай бұрын
Let's hope Gareth Doris has the gumption to fight rather than wither and fade.
@MuhammadImHardBruceLee
@MuhammadImHardBruceLee 3 ай бұрын
If England build a team around Bellingham at #10 and lose, then what's the point? Bellingham at #8, Foden at #10, and Eze/Gordan at left-wing. England are at the Euros to win a trophy, and not to worship Bellingham and his back-passes to an unmarked right-back.
@s12856
@s12856 3 ай бұрын
​@antidumbcomments Play Kane out wide, he gonna show up?
@ronnyron4681
@ronnyron4681 3 ай бұрын
​@antidumbcomments It is all about worshipping white English player. Although i'm also white but i don't agree with those white English idiots.
@MuhammadImHardBruceLee
@MuhammadImHardBruceLee 3 ай бұрын
@antidumbcomments This is why England will lose. Building your attack around Bellingham is insane. Southgate first brought Bellingham into the team a #8 and part of a midfield three... Madrid play Bellingham as a #10 for half the season, and Southgate suddenly decides he's a #10. Foden hasn't played on the left consistently at City for four years... It's amazing how much England promoter heroes over what's best for the team.
@rosswalters9021
@rosswalters9021 3 ай бұрын
Watch every team in the tournament, they shoot, they create chances, maybe 10-15 a game, we are creating on average 2-3 a game. You don’t shoot, you don’t score. It’s not rocket science
@ForzaMilan-di2zd
@ForzaMilan-di2zd 3 ай бұрын
Get rid off Southgate. Problem solved
@PaulK-ve1pu
@PaulK-ve1pu 3 ай бұрын
This is so typical of England under Southgate. Actually at a tournament and discussing what is the best starting XI. That, and the system they play, should have been settled months ago. Clueless.
@Lord_OTD
@Lord_OTD 3 ай бұрын
Bellingham and Foden are two different players. One is clearly better, so he’s the starter. Period.
@bordeauxbobby
@bordeauxbobby 3 ай бұрын
It’s the Joe Cole thing all over again
@girltal.k
@girltal.k 3 ай бұрын
Kanes big benefit, despite me.finding him quite ineffective, is how he is brillloant at gettiing those fouls protecting the ball, kills their momentum
@Aaron-zh7qm
@Aaron-zh7qm 3 ай бұрын
We are never going to win with him
@davidjones1619
@davidjones1619 3 ай бұрын
I agree with Cundy, play Gordon, Foden and Saka/Bowen behind Kane and Jude next to Rice. Bellingham can still get forward when necessary.
@First-h3o
@First-h3o 3 ай бұрын
After the Euros every English pundit and sports news paper editor need to forward their CV to the FA.
@steves1460
@steves1460 3 ай бұрын
Without key players like Foden hitting their straps, we ain’t winning nothing and so a solution needs to be found and fast! Agree with Cundy about perhaps pushing Bellingham deeper and playing phone and where he needs to be. Bellingham will still be as effective as he can play anywhere, whereas Foden can’t in that way you get the best out of both of them. If space can’t be found for Foden in the centre or on the right, then he has to be benched but England will pay the price! Can’t believe this hasn’t been sorted out yet.
@Bda2s
@Bda2s 3 ай бұрын
I reckon he left Foden on because he’s getting dropped for the next game
@philiplewis7572
@philiplewis7572 3 ай бұрын
Loads of top class managers in the comments section today who know better I hope 1 day England get a manager who knows as much as u lot
@chiunah
@chiunah 3 ай бұрын
So cundy is playing the 4141 formation... Let's go Roy!
@Escape2FreedomAsap
@Escape2FreedomAsap 3 ай бұрын
If you gotta make excuses then the players not good enough…except that and change the team before we get to the knockout stages please Southgate ffs
@scottbrushett152
@scottbrushett152 3 ай бұрын
I find it astonishing that in the whole of the EPL and the world England doesn’t have a player better than Luke Shaw…. Also I love Harry Kane but if his roll is to stay in the box why not drop Kane to the bench and play one of the others like the brentford lad Another thing is the players are full time professionals I’m sure they can play in other formations… like zoning and protecting space is the same concept in every formation…
@ChadPlainview_
@ChadPlainview_ 3 ай бұрын
Its the Totti and Del Piero problem. Both want the AM role.
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 3 ай бұрын
Only problem here is that Jude isn't an actual 10 is a box to box but people don't actually pay attention
@bernardfox9078
@bernardfox9078 3 ай бұрын
Foden and Bellingham in Midfield infront of Rice. It is simple !
@Escape2FreedomAsap
@Escape2FreedomAsap 3 ай бұрын
Foden has been 💩 for years ..done nothing in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 shirt ..give someone else a chance
@27mule
@27mule 3 ай бұрын
You always need a proper winger in today's England team. If Foden can't deliver at 10 next game either, better bench him
@BiggestChungus21
@BiggestChungus21 3 ай бұрын
He’s not gonna be at the 10 spot because Bellingham is in the 10 spot. Worst of all he and Saka have the most important role, to provide service for Harry Kane. Kane barely got touches in that game. I think 2 in the first half? Saka adapted well. Hopefully Foden as well
@bencook1926
@bencook1926 3 ай бұрын
He took rice off In euro final when he was controlling it instead of Phillips
@bucks963
@bucks963 3 ай бұрын
France played really well to win by an og 😂 and everyone rips them to win 🏆 😂😂
@123daniel4
@123daniel4 3 ай бұрын
Take Bellingham off. Haha
@jacquibonnington1980
@jacquibonnington1980 3 ай бұрын
We won't see foden at his best for England until next Euros not good enough yet I would be attacking him not got the legs to play wide better teams will target him thought Serbia would of more play watkins from left and warton in middle
@phillevene
@phillevene 3 ай бұрын
mainoo was a weird one.
@NelsonRaw550
@NelsonRaw550 3 ай бұрын
There is no problem, he had a quiet game, first game of the tournament and we beat a tough Serbian team… onwards and upwards, stop searching for negative headlines!!
@ACorn0894
@ACorn0894 3 ай бұрын
Well he ain’t playing well on the left and he’s no Bellingham soooo…drop him?
@MinisterManDan
@MinisterManDan 3 ай бұрын
Bellingham is a better player in every way shape and form than Foden. It is up to Foden to either figure out how to contribute from a different position, or to accept a sub role. It is a completely insane proposition to consider moving Bellingham to a different spot so that Foden feels more comfortable. This coddling of famous Premier league players by trying to manage the fee-fees of inferior players instead of telling them to get on with and do their best to sacrifice for their country team is why england has never won anything in the modern era.
@JimmyH7
@JimmyH7 3 ай бұрын
We’d all score goals with De Bruyne week in, week out for club. Foden is a moments player. Great players like Bellingham can play in any system. Again, Foden, overrated and is a moments player.
@jimllmixit5283
@jimllmixit5283 3 ай бұрын
gareth haag
@markLawley-g8u
@markLawley-g8u 3 ай бұрын
Cundy is a big Southgate fan the fool.
@npscholes
@npscholes 3 ай бұрын
Foden is not the problem, it’s an England and Southgate problem. If he was South American , Italian , French or Portuguese or Spanish, he would be admired for his style of play. Remember what England did to Scholes
@brettworrallo395
@brettworrallo395 3 ай бұрын
Goldstein clueless
@terrencechristopher7031
@terrencechristopher7031 3 ай бұрын
He,s just another bang average player, its quite obvious, he dose,nt have the City players around him, OVERRATED
@Escape2FreedomAsap
@Escape2FreedomAsap 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@TheMrClutchy
@TheMrClutchy 3 ай бұрын
So many bot comments. How soon till every video is like this.
@Haytch-hw2hu
@Haytch-hw2hu 3 ай бұрын
Harry is the problem
@tobaepebinuade5830
@tobaepebinuade5830 3 ай бұрын
Even though it’s just one game, Phil Foden’s performances for England can no longer be ignored. He is the only player who gets the most excuses for ghosting every time he plays for the national team and it makes you wonder why can’t he replicate his Manchester City form in an England shirt. How can such a talented player like him be a shadow of his former self when he plays for the national team even after being so good for his club on a consistent basis. Against Serbia, he had a very poor performance where he touched the ball so many times was involved in the game and didn’t have any sort of impact. He started on the left wing he drifted in field, too many times he was playing sideways passes playing it backwards and whenever he had the ball, he also lost possession a lot. It’s true that he plays his best football as a number 10 as he is more comfortable centrally behind the striker, he’s going to play out of position as long as Jude Bellingham is on that team and even if Foden will play in midfield alongside Bellingham, who’s going to be their left winger. Due to the fact that they didn’t pick Marcus Rashford or Jack Grealish, their only natural left winger is Anthony Gordon and starting him could be a solution and then you move Foden as a number 10 and even if Bellingham plays as a deep lying midfielder next to Rice, he can still impact the game and make deep runs into the box. We have to agree that he has underperformed for England and they don’t really know what to do with him while also acknowledging the fact that we can’t keep making excuses that “he’s playing out of position” when at Man City Pep has played him as a winger at times and he’s able to have excellent output compared to when he plays for the national team where he doesn’t do much and this is a guy who was the best player in the premier league last season and he’s the most talented player in their squad and for club and country you have to adapt no matter what position you play. England needs more from him because if you don’t know where he should play, you can’t win the EUROs while carrying a passenger in the team and you might as well drop him if you aren’t sure about who you want to play on the left. Fitting a player of his caliber in the same team as Jude Bellingham Harry Kane and Bukayo Saka is easier said than done and hopefully England gets a better version of Foden.
@Sven78872
@Sven78872 3 ай бұрын
Only England can have one of the single most talented players in the game….and it be a problem. We are laughable when you really analyse it Too rigid in our thinking, too rigid in our philosophy. Find a way to make it work.
@Escape2FreedomAsap
@Escape2FreedomAsap 3 ай бұрын
Foden needs to be benched…name a good game he’s had out the 35 he played…? Forget about the Andorra 🇦🇩 game and he’s literally 💩
@Sven78872
@Sven78872 3 ай бұрын
@@Escape2FreedomAsap name a game for england he has played without Southgate being manager. There might be a common theme with your answer. Southgate admitted he didn't see him as a 10....he stubbornly won't play him there as it contradicts his ludicrous comment. He will play in nets before he plays in the 10 position under Southgate. Get the bluffer out....not Foden
@First-h3o
@First-h3o 3 ай бұрын
Your problem is that you want to accommodate your snow white flakes Foden and Kane at all costs. Kane could have come off and Foden is average outside a Pep's City team!
@bernardobiechina506
@bernardobiechina506 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on. It's clear as day but many people don't want to say it.
@dannysmith2040
@dannysmith2040 3 ай бұрын
Moyes did the same all season late negative subs after 70mins playing players out position and they stuck up for him ! Hypocrites and full of shite
@markLawley-g8u
@markLawley-g8u 3 ай бұрын
Cundy is clueless and defends Wokegate to the death.
@kennydeary957
@kennydeary957 3 ай бұрын
Foden was so poor 😡
@petuser1
@petuser1 3 ай бұрын
totally agree with these guys,, let Gordon run at them and put Foden in the middle,, i would have taken Saka off aswell and put Palmer on the right,, let the Chelsea lad have a go and Cole and Phil know each others game inside out, you could argue to put Mainoo in there to win the ball and pass the ball but Gareth loves Gallaghar so he can do that aswell
@southwestslots
@southwestslots 3 ай бұрын
Foden just hasn't performed in an england shirt, give somebody else a chance.
@sonofabooyahsownyoutubeacc7607
@sonofabooyahsownyoutubeacc7607 3 ай бұрын
Foden only plays world class for pep guardiola
@kelnash4533
@kelnash4533 3 ай бұрын
Rubbish...Foden is misplacing passes its not even about position... can't even do the simple things🤦🏽‍♂️
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