You can tell darts still has a special place in the heart of Jeff Stelling when he presented the PDC in the early days of its formation
@tfootball870429 күн бұрын
'No pressure young man, but you can be the best of all time!'
@garywallace560229 күн бұрын
Can't see anyone beating Phil Taylor's 16 World Titles. Many people thought that MVG would catch him up. He's been on the scene for 20 odd years...and he's only won 3. Too many decent players nowadays compared with Taylor's prime era. Have one bad match and have to wait another 12 months to have a crack at it.
@Adam-zh4hm29 күн бұрын
It's a silly discussion to have in the first place if you ask me. It's just a different standard now and it's far more competitive
@dangosypethau29 күн бұрын
In 30 yrs he'll only be 47! If he has a good run under his belt I don't see why not.
@Ramps-rc9iy29 күн бұрын
@@dangosypethauHe looks 47 already 🤣
@Peached929 күн бұрын
Taylor won his first major at 29
@TiredofEarth29 күн бұрын
@@Adam-zh4hm yea, completely different standards today. Phill was just way ahead of the rest now everyone has caught up to that standard. though i think it would be possible for luke to do it. 17 years old and performs like this.. he can only get better.
@DanielDarts8229 күн бұрын
The young lad might beat Taylors highest average, but 16 world titles is just ridiculous 😂
@CraigFrance-o4i27 күн бұрын
yes and 16 world matchplays aswell
@rysie114529 күн бұрын
Never going to beat Taylor’s record. Players are so much better now, it’s all been professionalised. Lucky if someone does 5 world titles
@leebaxtertrading29 күн бұрын
never say never. He won his first ranking major at 17 - mvg was 24 and phil was 29. So he has started winning tournaments much younger then both of them. he will come close if anything thats for sure
@strapped_for_cash29 күн бұрын
@@leebaxtertrading MVG won the World Masters when he was 17
@leebaxtertrading29 күн бұрын
@@strapped_for_cash that’s not a ranking major
@BricktopsPigs29 күн бұрын
@@strapped_for_cash The Unranked tournament? Yeah thats a Major. Your majors are worlds,uk,matchplay,grandprix , grandslam,european,players. Prem league is an anomaly that its classed as a major but its unranked-its an invitational of the best so they call it a major but not one penny of the 200k littler won went on his ranking points.
@mccann8228 күн бұрын
@@strapped_for_cashthey don’t know you’re talking about the BDO World masters when he beat Martin Adams 😂
@thadonis.29 күн бұрын
tbf to Bristow, in the mid 1980's he averaged 97.5 in back to back world championship wins, back when the boards and darts were naff. Which was only (just) beaten once in the history of the BDO, (by Taylor). Most of the best averaged in the 90's. Give em some credit. Also if Taylor hadn't started so late, (won his first major at 29) he could have an extra 5-10 world titles. But, yes, Littler is the truth, no doubt.
@highjim777829 күн бұрын
also the trebles were smaller back then due to the wires and the staples causing bounceouts. Bristow in todays era would be a monster on those giant trebles and perfect playing environments. Can you imagine him in his pomp in the prem league. Only Bristow wouldve stopped Taylor, and he would've won the match before it got to the board. PRime for Prime Taylor is by far the goat but bristow wouldve known this and won the game with mind games
@fishingstevie883029 күн бұрын
@@highjim7778 Agree Jim ^
@mccann8228 күн бұрын
It’s like making the hole in golf bigger then comparing putting stats.
@NeilMelling-pw6ts27 күн бұрын
@@highjim7778 they was smaller regardless of the wires
@NeilMelling-pw6ts27 күн бұрын
@@mccann82 superb comment
@robertreader653929 күн бұрын
People are forgetting Humphries. By far the best in the world at present
@NeilMelling-pw6ts29 күн бұрын
If he beats littler at the worlds it will be epic
@Nickbaldeagle0228 күн бұрын
Not really.
@Gray-zi5bp29 күн бұрын
Luke is brilliant but let's face it the semi-final went all the way Anderson could have easily won that...... And to be honest Luke humphries at the minute is the man to beat...... Obviously nobody never catch up with the greatest Phil the power Taylor....💯🇬🇧🇯🇲👍🏿
@Taylor___28 күн бұрын
My favourite sport to watch now is darts, followed by boxing, F1, then football and snooker. It's so entertaining to watch.
@LeeBeesley-u5l27 күн бұрын
Eric Bristow would have hit 100 averages on the modern day dartboard 100%
@TruthHurts90727 күн бұрын
This. People who claim Taylor wouldnt have held his own today seem to forget the thickness of those old wires before the PDC introduced the boards with embedded wires. Once upon a time there were bounce outs pretty much every leg.
@Milkydrummer28 күн бұрын
What I love about Darts is that ANYONE can hit a purple patch in a match and play incredible darts. You genuinely never know who’s going to win any match on any given day. One dart, 1mm out and a match can change. It’s great
@chrispender270129 күн бұрын
No one will ever beat Phil Taylor records
@xanderosky65527 күн бұрын
Lol. Wait bro... look, just at age of 17 he starts braking records... 😉
@damiantosd872025 күн бұрын
I don’t agree or disagree only time will tell
@rooner123124 күн бұрын
why not?
@TimComley29 күн бұрын
Peak Taylor v peak Littler , still Phil for me at the moment
@B.Mcoist29 күн бұрын
Littler not at his peak lol can't buy a pint
@barry292429 күн бұрын
Peak mvg was the best I've ever seen
@dangosypethau29 күн бұрын
I'm just a darts fan but forget peak idea a sec who has the better averages?
@NeilMelling-pw6ts29 күн бұрын
Littler needs constant pressure putting on him and watch his average fall @@dangosypethau
@markjeffers466329 күн бұрын
Peak MVG for me best I've ever watched
@nigelstannard744329 күн бұрын
Should have a darts tournament using old bomber style darts 😊
@fishingstevie883029 күн бұрын
I used oplay with old style weight forward heavier darts and have hit 3 x bullseyes with them as well as lots of 180s as once two darts are within the other shall push forward and hit other darts to side and penetrate in same bed or bullseye ..ive had guy say before in past ..You couldnt get them 3 x darts in one treble 20 but again jealousy is rife within the game where i used play way back .
@adamthedarter516227 күн бұрын
Just to let you know in the 80' s the targets were 33% smaller because of the wires and staples/knuckles. Not saying they are not better today but Eric and Lowe would average 95+ easy today
@henryframpton202326 күн бұрын
We hear a lot of people saying Phil Taylors record will never get beaten because he didn't have anyone consistently able to match his A game. However I wonder if Mr Littler's A game is actually exponentially above all the rest in the field now in the same way as Taylor's was at the start of his career -if not more so!? If it is and remains rarely matched, at 17, Littler is younger than Taylor was when he started dominating the game so he certainly has time on his side to surpass Taylor's record 16 Worlds. Of course there are a lot of variables along that path most poignantly maintaining mental and physical strength (and health!) as well as the desire, but from what we've witnessed so far Littler has certainly shown his potential to achieve it. At the moment, aside from the "wonder kid" youngsters no doubt lurking in the wings, the two I sense challenging Littler more consistently than the others are Humphries and Wessel Nijman.
@WillLMC9629 күн бұрын
I don’t think a darts players in this era will reach 5 world titles, never mind 16. Littler has already indicated because he has started so young, he will probably retire in his early 30s anyway.
@JackWilliams-kb5pm29 күн бұрын
No he won’t , mvg started at 17 and he’s now 35 and will carry on playing till he’s in his 50s or even 60s
@WillLMC9628 күн бұрын
@ You can’t keep the motivation to keep performing for that long, it’s just impossible. If Littler is already winning major tournaments at 17, he will have no desire to be doing that 30 years from now. Littler mentioned this in an interview.
@Nickbaldeagle0228 күн бұрын
When I was 17 I thought I was going to retire at 50. I'm 56 and working 50 hours a week. My mortgage runs till I'm 64.
@dontbewoke24 күн бұрын
@@JackWilliams-kb5pm Littler said he will probably retire in his 30s but I guess some no mark youtube commenter like you knows better what he'll do....
@dontbewoke24 күн бұрын
@@WillLMC96 Exactly right. It takes a peculiar mindset (one Taylor had) to be so driven for so long.
@Andy-y7y29 күн бұрын
GOAT ? Bloody hell , he hasn’t even started yet , Phil Taylor has 16 world titles , Littler has zero .
@joppadoni29 күн бұрын
Phil Taylor didn't play at 17.. Littler is not the GOAT no, but he will be if he want's it..
@dontbewoke24 күн бұрын
@@joppadoni Taylor had no rivals , Littler has Humphries MVG and plenty of others coming through like Van de Veen and Nijman not to mention plenty of players who are actually world champs like Cross , Price etc something lets not forget Littler hasn't done yet.
@glemonsbhatkin51429 күн бұрын
I can't see anyone winning 16 now. The pool is and will be a lot bigger, so more talent on the way. Probability tells me I'm right.
@thegenie331229 күн бұрын
Littler will win a few worlds at best but as he grows older and massively richer, will he have the same hunger? I doubt it. If Littler, Humphries, De Dekker etc..to name a few had been round back in Taylors day, he certainly would not have won 16 worlds but that's eras for you.
@ThomasLWoolsey24 күн бұрын
Littler doesn’t need to win 16 to match Taylor. Ronnie’s the greatest snooker player ever, he’s won 7 world titles, Joe Davis won 15. It’s different eras, and the standard is so much higher than it was for most of Taylor’s career (no disrespect to him, he stayed competitive even in the era of MVG, Lewis and Anderson). If he wins 5+ world titles, he’s absolutely in the conversation for GOAT, if he wins 8+ then I don’t think it’s even a discussion
@8ballphil15027 күн бұрын
Love or hate Barry and Eddie hearn . But the have single handedly made the games of snooker , boxing , pool and darts become huge sports world wide . They are great businesmen .
@spyrytaraxalass24 күн бұрын
Single handedly? Boxing?
@darrencarter635028 күн бұрын
Same was said about MvG...and he's miles off Taylor's achievements.
@drofheim29 күн бұрын
In the mix for this title anyway. Think De Decker is the only one showing form that might top Littler.
@alexcull937928 күн бұрын
Whatever you think Barry Hearn is a person who does try to make things work
@jameslittler415129 күн бұрын
Anything is possible, and he’s an amazing talent, but he’s going to have to go some to reach the levels of Taylor and Magowan.
@cameronpickard682929 күн бұрын
its not the same equipment though. The trebles are quite alot bigger now. No doubt the standard is much higher now but you have bristow and taylor coming through as kids now how good would they be
@robertYTB78g29 күн бұрын
I enjoy darts heaps more now I don't know who is going to win..Taylor was and is a great player and all round guy, but I got fed up with no-one else being able to match him for so long, it's like the finals were all getting to be a foregone conclusion. Now we have heaps of great and interesting players coming through, and even the two Lukes can lose now and then. Who didn't love the match between Gary Andersen and Littler the recently, when Gary almost beat him? I hope darts stays like that rather than the emergence of another near unbeatable champion who wins everthing.
@philvalentine766527 күн бұрын
Can't see him beating Taylor's record. Even if he played until he's 50, that would mean winning 17 World championships in 33 years... Just totally unrealistic with the standard and quality of the current top ten players and the undoubted crop of young talent that will come along over that time span given the reach and popularity of darts, worldwide, now.
@Neddi-wg2ez29 күн бұрын
Within 5 to 10 years the Luke Littlers will be common place the bars been lifted higher, 9 darters will be like 180s are now
@PaulTerry-l8x29 күн бұрын
The bars have definitely been lifted... everyone plays 🎯 in their bars... 🍻
@jab-gn3sw29 күн бұрын
eHe has a long way to go to get near Taylor's record , I doubt it ever happens ?
@MarkReynolds-c2o29 күн бұрын
Darts will be like Golf when Woods dominated, noone will ever reach the records set by Taylor, it was said MVG would rule the sport, but over the past few years his standard and winning has dropped dramatically. Luke Littler should win the World title but I doubt he will reach double 5 in total.
@petersymaeys606728 күн бұрын
Good view on darts in the world
@davidwheldon484320 күн бұрын
nobody’s beating phil taylor’s record ever nobody’s even beat raymond van barnevelds record yet
@teamblitz199029 күн бұрын
The 10 x 10 City Challenge the most exciting Athletic event ...is coming...
@dontbewoke24 күн бұрын
Hearn is and always was all about the money ; he knows by hyping Littler to the point he's talked of as a possible GOAT it will attract new eyes , fact is Taylor was a 16 time world champ and that won't ever be beaten. It takes more than outrageous talent to do that....
@marvellousdazza283629 күн бұрын
Never will he or anyone beat Taylor’s record of 16, let him win one first ffs! I’d love for him to beat Taylor’s record but in reality it’s not gonna happen. MVG was a completely different level to everyone for years and years.. He joined the PDC in 2007, so in 17 years he’s only won 3 World Titles.. It’s not as easy as you think. Not to mention the standard of Darts in this day and age is ridiculous high! It’s much tougher than when Taylor first started.
@danielainger29 күн бұрын
De Decker was 2 legs away from knocking Littler out but threw it away, Anderson wasn’t far off knocking him out either. His quality no doubt especially for his age but to say his gonna be the greatest is silly.
@PaulTerry-l8x29 күн бұрын
He will be the greatest...
@blindspot384729 күн бұрын
Just proves he has fight when he's down. Only 17
@matthewjackson340829 күн бұрын
17 year old won 10 titel in his 1st year and bean in the world final going to be 1 of the greatest every
@TimComley29 күн бұрын
I don’t think it is
@LondonChat29 күн бұрын
@@matthewjackson3408should definitely be the winner of the bbc sports personality award no one has done ever what he has achieved this last year..
@Darts-kh2rs29 күн бұрын
Hes unreal
@enlightenedone714128 күн бұрын
Luke Littler is one of the most gifted darts players ever imo and could go on to eclipse Taylor but there are so many younger players who's standards are so high it will be difficult for him but certainly not impossible. I think most people forget he is only 17 years of age, he is quite simply phenomenal, the sky is the limit!!!
@barry292428 күн бұрын
@@enlightenedone7141 We said the same about mvg and he dominated for years, but it seems to have caught up with him, wether it's desire or whatever he's not the same animal and he's not old
@mrrobb424228 күн бұрын
even if he wins every 2nd year, which he won't, he will be 51 and most likely retired if dartitis or injury don't come in beforehand. Van Veen finished ahead of Litller in the development tour and the likes of him and Nijman are just starting, Luke Humphries is still in his 20's too. There are 11 and 12 year olds throwing ton averages too.
@Rocky-w5r29 күн бұрын
Will he play for spurs just like maddison?
@user-sj1ju5sd4t29 күн бұрын
No pro in the whole world has averaged even 100 this year overall Bazza lol
@johnclark44829 күн бұрын
Gary Anderson....??
@rizzeerizz898526 күн бұрын
Unless he can hit back to.back.9s or.hit three in one game Taylor is the goat..but he ain't ever getting 17 words titles.i personally think in the next 5 years we're gonna see even better teenagers than Luke.
@JamesR529 күн бұрын
More chance of England winning another World Cup than Luke Littler beating Phil the Power Taylor’s records. What drugs is Barry smoking, I want some please 😂
@russo849128 күн бұрын
Under 90…. That’s what he said not, 190 😂
@mac1-nf6ic27 күн бұрын
No chance of getting 16 world titles, he gasnt even got 1 yet
@lordfarquard990228 күн бұрын
Taylor would have gotten 5 maximum had his prime been in this generation. 5 might be generous
@spyrytaraxalass24 күн бұрын
🤣🤡🤡🤡
@sayitlikeitis537929 күн бұрын
He won’t beat 16 times because Phil was so far ahead of the rest but the best player ever yes he could
@Acullis18029 күн бұрын
Rubbish it’s not the same equipment or same dart boards as they used in the 80’s
@Wrighty6229 күн бұрын
Well obviously, they'd be all worn out by now 🙄
@garywallace560229 күн бұрын
True. In the 80s, pints of Carling and a 20 pack of Embassy were standard equipment on stage.
@Gray-zi5bp29 күн бұрын
Meet the ego Barry hearn. And sometimes it does not know what is on about he said Luke the most consistent but it's the wrong Luke humphries is the most consistent and that match in the semi-finals with Anderson went all the way . But let's not get carried away littler is brilliant but he might not get no better . But without doubt little light is the greatest youngest ever player of all time unbelievable for his age and I wish him all the best for the world championships I wish I only knew who was going to win it maybe David icke will know he seems to get 98% accuracy especially since march 2020 what is said was coming in the 90s in his second book and yes I'm sorry for laughing at you as well David... Most people are not laughing now....💯🇬🇧🇯🇲👍🏿
@DavWalker-zu6hh29 күн бұрын
17 goats cheese
@JohnOLeary-m9e29 күн бұрын
I played this game over 25 years I was good but this kid is💯 a freak he is look if you put Taylor in his prime ag littler now sorry but Luke would win 14 to 10 something like that he is💯 gonna win everything he could win he will make over 20 million in the next 10 year s💯 he is💯 the best 💓 it
@GarethHaynes-nu2lu29 күн бұрын
Nonsense. Do some research on Taylor before you start talking shite. Taylor beat Anderson 16-4 in a grand slam final averaging 109, I could go on and on about what Taylor achieved over 30 years.
@TruthHurts90727 күн бұрын
Numbers do matter Barry, so when hes got 16 world titles and 16 world matchplays you can run yer mouth off then...
@terryhodgkinson169029 күн бұрын
No chance littler beating taylors 16 World titles ... sulks too much when he loses . Keeping his back turned and the winner having to walk to him sod off .. hate that ... . learn from Gary Anderson be more graceful when getting beat ..
@Yorkshireman529 күн бұрын
Hes not even the best player in darts currently
@WarrickHunt24 күн бұрын
Humpfries will win more world titles and majors then littler
@8ballphil15027 күн бұрын
Luke at the moment is arguably the best player in the world . But you have other kids coming through , like Van veen and so on . The young upcoming players are the future .
@igolfjtweetler409714 күн бұрын
Littler isn't good for the sport contrary to the hype by Hearn and the like. I don't watch him and any tournament he loses in becomes way better overnight.
@damiantosd872025 күн бұрын
I love Phil the power but I hope he can swollow that ego and come give back to darts. Get behind the new crop and be proud the sport is moving on just like he helped it move on.