Which Series Is Bigger: The Ashes or Border-Gavaskar? Battle of Cricket's Giants👀| Kimber & Dasgupta

[@AdamVoges-ei1ek]

Why nobody discussing about Pakistan Zimbabwe rivalry Edit : how about organising a Masakadza-Azam Trophy 🏆🏆

[@peeyushanand2137]

That's beyond our analytical ability and proximity.....😂

[@AdamVoges-ei1ek]

@@peeyushanand2137 bro don't forget that Pakistan toured Zimbabwe to play two test matches with full strength team , with babar shaheen and all main guy . This shows theirs commitment towards greatest rivalry of this generation

[@deepop-n4p]

​@@AdamVoges-ei1ek Very insightful Thanks for reminding .

[@Visha054]

😂😂

[@imbatman999]

Lol😂😂

[@AR-qt8fs]

Simple. In terms of history- Ashes In terms of competition- BGT

[@vishalk2495]

Kids watch Ashes and BGT Legends know real rivalry is Pakistan Vs Zimbabwe ❤

[@AmitKumar-nq7wk]

Old and lame joke

[@nitlover8319]

​@@AmitKumar-nq7wk Yeah new one is Pak vs USA

[@Anuragg134]

😭😭😂😂​@@nitlover8319

[@DavidJaat-cy7dg]

​@@nitlover8319please dont insult usa & Zimbabe 😶

[@kicha6213]

Yes the real rivals

[@RedWeather2004]

Ashes have only been good in England because its one-sided in Australia Australia nearly pulled off miracles in India like the 2017 series and had close battles with them at home which they eventually lost twice. I feel if anyone's picking Ashes (right now, currently) are just living off nostalgia

[@James-st9uu]

I enjoyed 2010-11 and watching cook bat for days

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@James-st9uu Weird series: England win 1-3 in Australia...and England won all three matches by an innings!!!

[@RedWeather2004]

True that was the only highlight they'd take down under. But the ones after that we lost 5-0, 4-0, 4-0 and 5-0 in 2006-07. And when Australia go to England they win atleast 2 tests a series minimum.

[@dansharp2860]

Yeah but that's a whole lot of nostalgia to live off.

[@king_has_no_clothskul8635]

that first time they beat they beat they dominated: last match follow on and rain saved them but it was a defeat. india had a chance in 1985 which rained out. 2003 ganguly did not declare early. 2007/2008 india dominated but sydney loss cost them dear, kapil 2-2 had them on the mat. so they have had their chances.

[@traumaticroids7929]

As a aussie beating india in test feels so much more important at this present moment.

[@snehalkhatri9357]

Same, Beating Aus in Aus is like WC

[@GoluKr-hn3lb]

Same 😊 for us

[@imbatman999]

With you mate 😂😂 it must have been embarrassing to loose back to back home series against Ind. Let's hope we'll get a good series this summer as well, and BTW we'll wil again😛😛

[@dansharp2860]

I'll be happy if we can beat them here. In India would be very nice.

[@shardulkedar6689]

Yeah even for us defeating Australia in Australia is like the best thing to happen in test cricket!!

[@tommasoali7617]

The Ashes are obviously bigger, BGT is obviously the better cricket series in terms of quality of the game itself

[@parthratnu2953]

Yeah when England last won the ashes ?

[@tommasoali7617]

@@parthratnu2953 doesn't change the fact that Aussies v Poms will always be bigger

[@prakashmahtani6345]

Couldn't have put it better. I don't get this argument, it will change every decade or two. Just glad I have seen India do what they have done in my life time. Something I did not expect when I was in my teens.

[@Sid-e5y]

Obviously you guys lose to india all the time,it isn't a rivalry

[@ankitra3667]

Sir , what factors you have considered when said ashes is bigger than BGT?

[@mcdelive]

Ashes is Bigger, Border-Gavaskar is Better 😉

[@ShivamGupta-nf4nv]

Diplomatic answer 😂😂

[@deepakpokhriyal321]

Tumhe to politician hona chahiye bhai😅

[@livercoolutd]

The reason why Border Gavaskar Trophy is the biggest rivalry in cricket right now is that it is a closely fought contest whether held in India or Australia. The Ashes in England is really great to watch, but it becomes a one-sided series in Australia with the Aussies thrashing England there. That doesn't happen with the Border-Gavaskar Trophy.

[@rahulsinha623]

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

[@yadhaider807]

Wrong, The Ashes is considered by both Australians and English as their biggest cricket event, even people who barely watch cricket in these 2 countries still follow the Ashes because its that big for them playing vs their biggest rival. Not the BGT. Also the person you were replying to is an Aussie.

[@dhananjaybhagat8738]

@@yadhaider807 Maybe bigger just because of marketing and nostalgia. 'At present' ask any cricket expert and neutral people about the quality of cricket being played in Ashes vs BGT. BGT certainly provides more quality cricket than the Ashes. Let's celebrate the quality of cricket no matter who plays it. It will be good for the cricketing world. Not any average cricket in Ashes in Australia and England is to blame here. The same reason why people are getting disinterested in Ind vs Pak matches especially in India because Pakistan has stopped playing good cricket. It doesn't feel like India were tested to a great extent to beat Pakistan. But the case is different with Australia though.

[@NmD-no3vo]

​@@rahulsinha623 Gavaskar is Tendulkar 's Hero. Also Border is not from Tendulkar era but Gavaskar thus the name. If new series are made then it could be Tendulkar-pointing series...

[@YS27122]

@@yadhaider807u are a pakistani, thats why u would never agree to the reality that the best rivalry in modern day cricket is IND vs AUS.

[@L.I.T.H.I.U.M]

The same way India vs. Pakistan is bigger than India vs. England even though beating England is harder. It's about what people care more about, not who's harder to beat. I would guess both English and Australians would care more about beating each other than beating India. Really depends on how you define "bigger".

[@rubammonga6881]

You summed up🥂

[@VijayPadala-w2z]

No cricketing legend can describe the rivalry between Zimbabwe and Pakistan. Great respect to these two cricketing giants.

[@KABIRA-v9g]

Well Absolutely nobody can forget about Great powers

[@Sanatan_Vaidik_Aary_Hindu]

Once ashes has the quality but never been the best After 2000 In BGT you can't say who is gonna win series wherever they are playing home or away but Ashes is one sided in Australia and Draw in England. So clearly BGT now is a rivalry like you see Barca vs Real Madrid it has that kind of value but now ashes is just overhyped😊😊😊

[@rahulsinha623]

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

[@KICK839]

Away ,india eating them tho

[@mohammadmirza84]

@@rahulsinha623 yeah ur a complete weirdo

[@Yeesss1356]

Barca and real Madrid>>>>>>>> entire cricket career. Chapri Indians comparing football to cricket. Ronaldo and messi is famous than entire cricket game 😂😂

[@Yeesss1356]

​@@KICK839indias father Travis head ate whole vadapav in finals 😂😂

[@aanchitgovind581]

Why not have someone like Ravi Shastri or Harsha here? There would be no beating around the bush, they would tell the truth: Ashes is history, Border Gavaskar is the biggest rivalry and bigger currently because England is not a great competitor, never really was in all honesty, but India has come up now as a proper rival to Australia and that makes it much more exciting, hence bigger.

[@Ricky-ce2is]

It's not about competitiveness or rivalry. It's bigger only for Indians as India won last few series. Most Australians or Brits don't care if India win either. Both aus and eng pretty much use every test series as a warm up for Ashes selection. It's more like a cultural event b/w these two countries for over a century which is equivalent to WC for both. India doesn't even matter here. Not sure why Indians are so desperate to get compared.

[@helopapajee]

Rivalries have changed in last 2 decades. In a world where England and Australia were a fierce competitor in tests, another world had India and Pakistan rivalry which was more important as a cricket fan. Now that India can compete the greatest of the tests, India and Australia have become biggest competitors.

[@Sid-e5y]

India and Australia have been the cricketing superpowers since the 2000s,they have the best record bilateraly and in major tournaments since than,that's why the cricket World is excited about this series and there's so much hype

[@rahulsinha623]

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

[@Yeesss1356]

LockdownIndian kids comparing themselves with Australian legends is the biggest joke 😂😂. Australia has more trophies than all other cricket countries'. Australia super power no 1 and then other chapri cricket countries.😂

[@KumarRaj414]

Nobody talking about Pakistan vs Zimbabwe, Nepal ,Usa rivalry

[@akhanduyitr369]

Pak vs ire also 😇

[@suroshalam]

Why are my Indian friends always so derogatory towards their neighbour? Wouldn’t it be better to take the high road and be nice all around ?

[@KumarRaj414]

@@suroshalam lele Mera wala pta chal jayega

[@TheWayOfLifeE]

​@@suroshalam kid go to pak then , pak is our black sheep son now not neighbor 😅

[@nikunjdixit1175]

BGT has been more consistently competitive since the turn of the century. The Ashes has more history and prestige and England and Aus is a lot more personal. Its the same thing with Ind and Pak. Ind beating Pak is a lot more personal than Aus. I suspect if you ask the casual Indian fan as to whom they would prefer to beat, Pak or Aus in a crunch situation, most people will say Pak. I will say that apart from the 2011-12 series, almost all series since the 03-04 series in Aus have been competitive.

[@rahulsinha623]

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

[@wesleymaistry6278]

If BGT was bigger than the Ashes then that would reflect in the attendance figures for the actual matches being played. No test series comes close to the fan attendance that the Ashes generates, then when you add the history and tradition it's a no brainer.

[@_A.t.g]

Hmm. That seems like a one sided Australian pov.

[@wesleymaistry6278]

@_A.t.g Your reply doesn't make sense

[@janga75]

What are the viewing numbers tho

[@naturemeditation3751]

@@wesleymaistry6278 combined viewership digital + grounds BGT numbers are huge relative to Ashes games but i would say majority of those numbers would be skewed towards indian audiences

[@HakunaMatata001-well]

​@@wesleymaistry6278 Nah... It's just that kangaroos can't win against India... India is THE team to beat NOW...

[@maybepriyansh9193]

This is probably on of the only places left where we get some real cricket analysis and narratives being discussed.

[@VIJAY4211]

BGT has been the biggest fixture in world cricket in 21st century. Whenever these two teams clash, one of them has always been ranked no 1... also, the two most successful teams at ICC events.. Ask any broadcaster in India or Australia, which clash makes the highest revenue, there's only 1 answer...Steve Waugh called India the final frontier... Steve Smith said way back in 2017 that his biggest cricketing dream is to win a Test series in India. This coming from someone who hasnt won an Ashes in England till date... Cummins has said that a Test series win in India will be "era defining"... Virat and Rohit have already said that they enjoy playing Australia more than any other team... whoever does well in these contests, usually end up having a 10-15 year career... This years BGT will be one of the most highly anticipated Test series of all time... Australia will be aiming to win their first BGT in a decade, India will be looking to avenge the two final defeats of last year.. Both teams will be itching to get their hands on each other already... From what I last heard, the MCG Boxing Day Test tickets of Day 1 have already been sold.. This is cricket's El Clasico..

[@yadhaider807]

Ashes is bigger

[@tarunreddy2031]

​@@yadhaider807 why are you crying mate? India vs aus is the best in terms of quality. Eng vs aus is best in terms of popularity and history

[@yadhaider807]

@@tarunreddy2031 how am I crying when you said the exact same thing as me that the Ashes is bigger

[@tarunreddy2031]

@@yadhaider807 with a context dude. The BGT has better quality than the ashes. Both in india and in aus. England is useless in aus conditions

[@redeyexxx1841]

​@@tarunreddy2031Because Australia and England look at Ashes as their biggest cricketing event besides the World Cup. BGT generates more revenue purely because of Indian audience. Hardly anyone in australia cares about it

[@Sid-e5y]

Is it even a rivalry when india have won the last 4 times,it's a rivalry when it happens in Australia,and its a rivalry in a one off test,but I see the border gavaskar more as one sided than a rivalry

[@TheeldenLord924]

obviously India has had an upper hand on the last 4 occasions , But to call it "one sided" shows either you didn't watch any of the games or you don't know the meaning of the word one sided

[@Sid-e5y]

@@TheeldenLord924 when it has happened in india it's been one sided ,in aus it's obviously competitive,but how can people call ashes one sided when aus haven't even won in england for a while and than call the bgt competitive when india have won twice in aus

[@TheeldenLord924]

@@Sid-e5y 2-1 is one sided ? 😭 Aus were a 180 chase away from winning the series in 2017 and axar had to bail india out twice to win the recent bgt. Go watch some games before blabbering

[@kingboruto6973]

In aus ues aus won or matches have been competitive but in india well since 1988 they won or drew only once 2004 ​@@TheeldenLord924

[@Sid-e5y]

@@TheeldenLord924 india won both those axar matches by more than 100 runs,if that's the argument than the ashes have also been competitive in aus, because smith has had to bail them out

[@akshaymate954]

Based on history : Ashes Based on current hype and rivalry : Border Gavaskar

[@jaserobert2758]

As an Aussie who has no interest in cricket anymore, the Ashes is the only clash that i will watch and get excited about.

[@hardik6918]

Why u aint interested in cricket Any particular reason?

[@yadhaider807]

​@@hardik6918Indians ruined the sport, that's why

[@physco4641]

No interest in cricket. Your opinion doesn't matter

[@yadhaider807]

@@physco4641 it does matter. What that means is that even those who don't watch cricket much in Australia or England will still watch the Ashes because its their biggest cricket event. Similar to how in other countries, casual cricket fans only watch the world cup and nothing else. In other words, Ashes is the biggest test cricket rivalry.

[@mrgyani]

Pakistanis are losing interest coz their team isn't doing so well. Aussies have lost interest coz their team has done it all.

[@Sid-e5y]

A lot of india dominating in aus is also conditions,there's not much lateral movement which helps the Indian batsman,and historically indi have had the flattest pitches for fast bowlers this Australian wickets seem like a paradise

[@Adisonhvc]

You guys have lost four times in a row ,stay humble my guy​@@MrCarrera28

[@abhinandan1441]

​Racial vilification? 😂​@@MrCarrera28 what are you talking about?

[@MrCarrera28]

@@abhinandan1441 Monkeygate.

[@MrCarrera28]

@@abhinandan1441 Monkeygate, when India are called on their bad behaviour the BCCI just threatens to pull out of the series.

[@samratmanna8310]

Its 120 years vs 30 years. So not comparable. But England can't compete in Australia. Ashes away is just good cricket. Ashes in Australia is just thrashing. Same as BGT in India

[@AH00009]

Ashes is Different

[@dhananjaybhagat8738]

Atleast Australia manage to win a test in India but England can't even do that in Australia.

[@Andyferguson-ml4uo]

Neither. India v Pakistan is the biggest rivalry in cricket.

[@_A.t.g]

It doesn't happen anymore dude.

[@rahulsinha623]

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

[@redeyexxx1841]

India vs Pakistan series doesn't even happen

[@groot3535]

Agreed

[@MSsnakeeyes123able]

Being an Indian , I have always considered Ashes is more valuable than the world cup. It is the oldest rivalry in the cricketing nation and it is the only rivalry that kept European and specifically England, Irish, Dutch and other neighbouring countries interested in the sport and they consider it as a holy rivalry even more than EPL, Champions league etc because Ashes is more of pride rivalry rather than just dominance.

[@meetgala6455]

Its high time we need Aus vs Eng vs Ind tri series in all 3 locations

[@Therealtalkpodcast1115]

Based on the ones I've watched live, 2014, 17, 21 bgt and 2013, 19, 23 ashes, all were phenomenal in cricketing quality

[@davidmeiklejohn9800]

You can't leave out the history. If you're asking Australians (as the only ones involved in both series), it's still the Ashes.

[@snehalkhatri9357]

How? And Why?

[@TheeldenLord924]

Australians as in YOU ? I would take a series win against India currently any day of the week

[@nikunjdixit1175]

@@TheeldenLord924 I think the discussion is about consensus. I think the history of The Ashes is so vast that you can't ignore that Aus and Eng have an additional personal edge in wanting to beat the other, even if Ind is a more competitive team against them.

[@TheeldenLord924]

@@nikunjdixit1175 Doesn't matter lmao , Wi have been more competitive here in the last couple of years than England , I would take beating india in aus anyday of the week because it is a lot harder to but also because it will be a sweet revenge

[@nikunjdixit1175]

@@TheeldenLord924 I get that. But that's just an individual choice. If you take a consensus of group of Aus fans, I am sure most of them will say The Ashes. Most Indian fans would say the same when choosing between beating Pak and Aus.

[@limewelsh]

Completely agree with Jarrod, he has his finger on the pulse of cricket and of fans in Aus

[@thiefoftomorrow]

aus vs england in england is the show piece cricket event

[@LordPuneet377]

What about aus v eng in Australia 😂😂😂😂

[@yadhaider807]

@@LordPuneet377 still is

[@LordPuneet377]

@@yadhaider807 lol ur funny

[@CricketGentlemensGame]

8:38 finally someone remember that gill was also playing that test (and scoring 91 {also with new ball})

[@ExtremeZZZLifeOnTheEdge]

The Gabba test made hard core Australian fans cry.

[@tezhda]

As an Indian Fan, Kimber is one cricket guru who understands the undertones and nuances - appreciate his take

[@SohamBhattacharya3105]

Apart from Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh, Pakistan vs Afghanistan has also become a heated rivalry in the recent past.

[@rynverse8479]

Once a man said "come to Gaba" and the rest is history 🌚

[@Ricky-ce2is]

Yea after that india lost WTC final and WC at home. Moron. A much weaker WI won at GABA recently too, but unlike INDIAN incels they don't jerk on that always.

[@A.K.M.333]

As football fan History is important and that why Ashes is top riverly.

[@TheSarenaster]

The your opinion doesn't matter 🤓☝🏻

[@karthikpatra]

Pure sporting competitiveness or history does not automatically translate to a bigger rivalry. The emotional response among the general public requires something more personal, something bitter beyond just cricket. Aus and Eng have that history and so do Ind and Pak. The BGT series can never upstage ashes for a typical Aus fan in that regard.

[@tejasnatu90]

Historically of course its the Ashes, but in terms of quality I believe BGT beats Ashes. Ashes is too one sided in favor of the Aussies. BGT, with India suddenly winning two in two away and under extreme circumstances, and Aussies still not able to find a way to defeat India in India, has suddenly raised the bar and stakes really high I believe.

[@Natureshortcircuit]

Well, I feel like Ashes is more like Manchester United vs Liverpool. England is more like Manchester United here basking on the past glory🥲. India is more like Man City, sudden rise to power and there is more money involved. This is my personal opinion, and anyone can disagree.

[@yashbansal7492]

No 115 charges though

[@andrewfleming2892]

Border Gavaskar Trophy has become the second most important test rivalry replacing the Frank Worrell Trophy for Australia. An away Ashes series will remain the most important series for both England and Australia given the difficulty of task over the past twenty or thirty years of winning series away from home.

[@acestar-et1km]

Great Show 😊

[@Shad0w5carab]

From an Aussie perspective its still the Ashes by an absolute landslide. Yes India is a much bigger challenge to overcome but England are the enemy and nothing will ever compare to the feeling of beating them. Also to be honest it still doesn't feel like theres any chance of us winning in India so away series are a write off before they even begin., everyone just watches the highlights on the news and goes "Oh look, another dust bowl, India opened with two spinners and they took all the wickets cause every 3rd ball doesn't bounce, oh well"

[@dakshpatil8201]

Same reason we indians call ind vs pak huge..while everyone knows how difficult beating pak really is🤣🤣,it all basically depends upon the history

[@jayaramnarayanan8752]

BG Series is financially a goldmine for Cricket Australia.

[@ManojSingh-zx5rt]

Hyping BGT is a joke. Remember in the 70s and 80s, it was difficult for Aus to beat WI but still the Ashes was more important due to historical reason.

[@rahulsinha623]

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

[@marathiboi96]

match quality over history anyday

[@yadhaider807]

​@@marathiboi96Aussies won't care

[@Rohan_Choudhary5]

​@@yadhaider807players don't play for spectators...they play for themselves...they play for their own pride...mindset of player is totally different from normal person...

[@AR-qt8fs]

If given a chance of watching India play Pakistan or India play Australia 90% would currently choose Australia coz of competition...even though there's a richer history against Pak.

[@kaakutstha]

Ashes may be big on history, but its seldom made for compelling viewing. I've only watched three closely fought Ashes series in the 3 decades that I've followed the game: 2005, 2019 & 2023

[@Bikramecotence]

You are ding good work folks, the ratio of (View:Like) is impressive.

[@callofduty3807]

Ashes. Aus Vs Eng is and will always will be bigger than any team that comes to Aus. It may be a smaller trophy but it means a lot more to win than some trophy that is only like 30 years old. Aus and Ind will never be on that level.

[@SunrajAhirrao]

good that the panel did not mind discussing INDvPAK rivalry. They would be forced to change the title of the video.

[@fin-ed6oj]

If you asked 100 random Aussies today, 85% would still prefer to win the Ashes in England than the BGT in India

[@suryakantpaital7306]

Because . People like tough games... In india BGT is like❤ biased........... A bit of compitition in australia 🦘

[@suryakantpaital7306]

It's almost impossible to beat india in INDIA'

[@ashishchauhan4042]

India vs Australia is more than just a game of cricket. Even the events in between to overs are worth watching.

[@Bhavik630]

BGT may be bigger when it comes to competitiveness but when it comes to following, Ashes has and will always have an upper hand as it means a lot to Australian and English Cricket fans as its part of these two countries Sports culture.

[@SohamBhattacharya3105]

Deep actually made a really good point - India touring Austrlia is bigger than England touring there and Australia touring England is bigger than them touring India. Although, it must be said that Steve Waugh did call India the "final frontier".

[@rahulsinha623]

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

[@knowledgiyapa]

Aussies who are saying I am only interested in ashes are the ones who know that in ashes they are going to win more often than not. But with india, In india forget about winning the series even in your dreams. And in your own home Australia, you are always under tremoundous pressure because you know one mistake and you will lose for sure. That's how strong the Indian test cricket team is. You are not going to win without playing your A game.

[@redeyexxx1841]

That's not the topic here. Thing is England and Australia have a long history and that's a part of the reason why Aussies see Ashes as the second most important cricketing event besides the World Cup. It's similar to let's say India vs Pakistan has bigger importance to the Indians than India vs Australia. I mean I would prefer losing to Australia than losing to Pakistan.

[@eshwaryapathak]

Ashes is better brand and marketing - BGT is a better product.

[@walkingalive189]

Pure Cricket wise Ind vs Aus & Aus vs Saf (few years back) was the best. But Ashes & Ind vs Pak(if it ever happened again) are the two biggest series but its much more than cricket

[@karneshwarj]

In Historic Presence you can say Ashes was the biggest and most important test series in world cricket but now Border-Gavaskar is Bigger

[@kuldeepsingh211]

We need to give every test trophy/series/rivalry a name like Ashes and BGT and use it more often.

[@_A.t.g]

Yeah. If you are going to the effort of making trophy like a tournament just think up of a name.

[@CoderHarsh]

Ashes is due to historical moment but due to competitiveness Border Gavaskar is prime right now

[@prodigiii712]

Casual cricket fan from Bangladesh. Just heard of Border Gavaskar trophy. Knew of Ashes since the time I started watching cricket.

[@Devastating-queen-destroyrKing]

3:30 makes very good sense

[@pranavmishra4323]

Awesome show with Kimber, the host and John Cena

[@Sandu455]

Border gavaskar is the new ashes.. ... the retro ashes where eng vs aus go on head to head has lately been like a normal tests instead of tug of war.. where as the border gavaskar trophy is so entertaining

[@callofduty3807]

If you say so buddy.

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

To me with these things you have to take how you would feel about losing into account as well as how you would feel about winning. I can easily imagine that many Australian supporters would be more excited by beating India at home than winning another Ashes, but also suspect they might be considerably more horrified to lose a home Ashes series than they will be if they lose to India again. As an England supporter I think winning an away series in India would be a bigger achievement than winning in Aus though obviously the latter would also be quite something given how poorly we've performed there the last three times. Cold assessment of what's more difficult or impressive doesn't govern excitement levels though!

[@dansharp2860]

Aussie here and you are right on the money. Can take losing to India because they are so good. Winning in India is a massive achievement and we realise it's the hardest ask in test cricket. However, lose to England and the country would go into melt down. Here? That can not happen if people want to keep their jobs. The media over hype the Ashes which doesn't help.

[@SunilPokhrel-wo9ew]

​​@@dansharp2860I live in Sydney as an Indian immigrant and what I found is that Aussies just loves beating Eng time and time again and losing a home Ashes against Eng is just not acceptable by Aussie fans at all whereas whenever Ind beats Aus,Aussie media and fans take it casually as just another game that Aus lost to India whereas losing to Eng especially in home Ashes is just painful for Aussie fans

[@abdullahalmahmud5138]

I want to see an Ashes series in India!

[@opinions1461]

@2.55 Spot on, By conservative estimate 90 out 100 Aussie would be saying cricket? Don't know mate I watch AFL...

[@kc4276]

Ashes is a historical rivalry between the Anglos. Casual fans would be more excited for this series. BGT is the present/future. Hardcore fans would, probably, be more excited for this series. I suspect that, in general, most Aussies are still biased towards the Ashes (nothing wrong with that), but commerce favours the BGT.

[@Vibranium603]

Australia beating England either home or away would feel satisfying but wouldn't surprise or shock anyone. On the other hand . . .

[@rajeshdebnath4523]

BGT is much competitive and excitement tournament then Ashes

[@mrgyani]

Lets not hype the BGT so much, and our team goes there and gets crushed like there was no competition.

[@kirkelliott493]

Im a massive cricket fan... and England v the aussies is the biggest rivalry in the game

[@KICK839]

It is . Well obviously their will always be history.

[@roobanloganathan6498]

The Ashes will always be the premier and bigger trophy than the BGT. BGT can never rival the history, great moments of the Ashes.

[@snehalkhatri9357]

Nope not agree at all

[@roobanloganathan6498]

@@snehalkhatri9357 When Ashes started n BGT was made into a big moment in cricket history? Clearly you can see the differences between both especially in Aahes’s history, great players who played in it, the unforgettable moments etc Once India Start losing in BGT and Indians lose interest, no one will talk about it anymore. Now it’s just marketing trick to make it into a bigger series than it actually is.

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

@@roobanloganathan6498 India has lost countless wc's that didn't stop them from talking up WC's

[@snehalkhatri9357]

@@SAFFRONINFERNO exactly, Ind will never loose interest in cricket ,remember last year when ind lose the world cup final and In next four days ind play T20 series vs Aus, everyone says no one will watching this series and what happen, full house

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

@@snehalkhatri9357 That doesn't mean lack of winning cup's is acceptable that point was driven down many times before

[@jimmyc7624]

Deep dasgupta class personified the aussie berk who no one knows hasn't got a clue about cricket and just tried to wind people up.

[@arrgghh1555]

The BGT may be the better more competitive competition at the moment. But it's still just a rivalry between cricket teams. The Ashes is a rivalry between nations, it's history and importance goes far beyond the cricket field, from colonisation in 1788 and the years of imperial rule, to being used and abused on the fields of Gallipoli and being abandoned to fend for our selves during WWII, from Bodyline, the invincibles and ball of the century, it is Australia's moment of going to war against the 'old enemy'. Beating the English is more important than winning the world cup. Case is point is the World Test Champions trophy, it was only seen as a warmup match for the real battle to come, the ashes.

[@vivekbhagat114]

Obviously ashes has a history and tradition but india australia and india england also has traditional rivalry

[@jacknoone3725]

For us, the Ashes are obviously bigger, but I do think we don’t make anywhere near as much out of India series (our left-field picks are all with a view to the Ashes, even Bashir who made his debut in India is a tall lad who gets bounce). Looking forward to India next year, will be a true test of ‘Bazball’, we’ve beaten India in a one-off Test, we’ve matched our results away to India and at home to Australia and done well against the rest but we could do with a real statement series win

[@jamesatkinson12]

BG trophy since 2000 Total India wins - 9 series and 1 tie Total Aus wins - 4 series and 1 tie 2001 in india - india 2-1 2003 in Australia- tie 1-1 2004-5 in India - Aus 2-1 2007/8 in Aus - Aus 2-1 2008 in India - India 2-0 2010 in india - India 2-0 2011 in Aus - Aus 4-0 2012 in India - Ind 4-0 2014 in Aus - Aus 2-0 2014 in India - Ind 4-0 2017 in India - Ind 2-1 2018 in Aus - Ind 2-1 2021 in Aus - Ind 2-1 2024 in India - Ind 2-1

[@ankmondal573]

A tri test series among India, Australia, England 💚

[@CricketEngland]

ASHES!

[@hridikpaldiwal]

yes, quality of border gavaskar is bigger but as a person living in aus, people care about ashes way more

[@VishalYadav-jl1cc]

How about a test tri series among India,Australia and England 😎

[@maxmustard7028]

Good conversation. Payne thing was Gabba. Be nice if Test cricket was played outside of 3 countries its all over soon. Go the Dees.

[@RohanKathpalia-cj4vp]

Am I the only one wondering why Deep Das Gupta is the only one wearing a sweater?

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

We need Benson/Hedges - Carlton Tri Series back ACB/BCCI should make it happen once again with preferably ECB

[@naveenn6355]

You guys could have chosen a better guest than Deep Dasgupta.. he is so insignificant!!

[@PrakharTalksSports]

Sri Lanka v Bangladesh is the biggest cricket rivalry 😅

[@vikrantkalyan7598]

Meanwhile in the Caribbean Rakheem the dream v Azam the dazam being built as an all time rivalry CPL IS THE BEST FRANCHISE LEAGUE GOING AROUND GOATED BY THE TWO LEGENDS OF THE GAME

[@merajeev007]

The Pak Zom series is really for the Pakistanis to prove that they have the best batsmen and bowlers in the world who shatter all world records.

[@ABHISHEKBAMBESAR]

If India Played Against Pakistan This would be greatest rivalry of all time

[@chrismcdonaghsignwriting1568]

Kimber is spot on here.

[@J92-DS]

Australia are England’s biggest rivals and Pakistan are India’s biggest rivals. The fact we won’t get another test series between Pakistan and India is criminal. Even though Pakistan would get blown away, the buzz it would create would be great for the game

[@hasanramzan6578]

India beating Pakistan black and blue won't create any buzz lol. India vs Pakistan aside from T20 games is not interesting and not a contest. Just a money making match for broadcasters.

[@Nothing-kr5hn]

Nobody talking about..Sibanda-Azam trophy..Bigger than both

[@Bobertron199494]

In Australia, BGT is clear. But Ashes in England is still the best series going

[@factytop10s45]

Border gavaskar trophy started in 1996

[@shridhardeshpande1790]

Ashes is bigger than bgt hands down but currently context wise bgt is bigger

[@tino6440]

I would rather go another decade without beating India than lose one ashes

[@miloblackmetalhate]

Congratulations, another decade it is.

[@_A.t.g]

Losser mentality lmao.

[@ljj089]

agreed mate hahahaha

[@yadhaider807]

​@@_A.t.gnah, more like the Ashes holds more value

[@aabhishek4911]

Lose a couple of finals to us also please

[@louquay]

India are coming here this summer and England are coming here next summer. If you told me we could only win one of them, 100/100 times I'm choosing to beat England. Therefore The Ashes is the more important series regardless of any context

[@tigersden13]

Ashes in England, BGT in Australia. But Ashes is still bigger in my opinion.

[@sumedhvemuri3180]

Aus vs Ind has taken place of Aus Vs SA, because Ind has beaten Aus in Aus. SA has slightly fallen off. Ashes is important for even non-cricket fans, it is a more traditional rivalry

[@callofduty3807]

SA has beaten Aus three times straight in Aus. SA is still more successful here than India is so you keep dreaming mate.

[@sumedhvemuri3180]

@@callofduty3807 No arguments there, SA in Long run is expected to be better in Aus. That's why I said slightly fallen off (read temporarily)

[@callofduty3807]

@@sumedhvemuri3180 Well look either way, this upcoming BGT will be a cracker.

[@malateshhkulkarni4800]

Aus vs Ind - rivalry exist for more than 25 years..