TRANSFERENCE (S4E06) Tom Mimicking John Glover, Ruining Relationships & Disgusting Behavior

[@Sage0130]

Tom Welling only had four days to prepare and figure out how to play Lionel Luthor? And he turned in that kind of performance? Fuck the award shows, he should have gotten an Emmy nod.

[@LivstevMotherEarth]

agreed!

[@goatherds]

Actors have to submit their own work for Emmy consideration. So if at the time Tom wasn’t as confident about what he turned out, he wouldn’t have. It’s a shame to see him be critical about it even today. We all would love to apply knowledge we have today to past experiences but this performance holds up and he should absolutely appreciate it as is.

[@DeepFakeCulture]

They both killed it

[@mops515]

Tom is wayyyy too hard on himself. He absolutely nailed it in this episode. This is a weird thing I've noticed for some people: even for their best work, they still look back wishing they did things better when it was already great lol

[@daveblackman816]

It’s incredible how both Tom and John nailed each others personality traits and even on their speech. I’m upset that both actors didn’t win an award for that one.

[@marianneabramovici4330]

Yes, they certainly should

[@Chimchimchu]

But did he get to pluck that succulent fruit?

[@samsmith8643]

The issue with tv awards is that they can only submit one episode for judging. So if the voters aren't regularly watching Smallville then they don't have the context of the previous 71 episodes to know how brilliant Tom and John's performances were.

[@Angi-vh3wn]

Yes an award would have been very fair. Tom played the good and shy boy for 10 years, I think that must not have been easy. I think that John Glover himself had a hard time imitating him, honestly I saw in John just an imitation of a random scared boy, not necessarily Clark, I didn't see the traits that characterize him. On the other hand, Tom's imitation of Lionel is absolute perfection. When Tom is given the opportunity to play someone different, a character that he can experiment with and express himself differently, he showed that he was even more talented than we already knew and left us all impressed.

[@arynackerman7232]

I love when Lana walks in and Tom muttered "This one..."

[@gigigmd]

In the Brazilian dubbing it was "The Boring"

[@gigigmd]

"A chata!"

[@Agh576]

The best! They didnt even address it in the pod 😢

[@marlenesheffield8777]

Right!!! Freaking hilarious!!! 😆😆

[@latifahraleb2137]

i laughed so much 😄😄 this is why i can watch this episode on repeat

[@jeffbrown8117]

One of Welling’s FINEST acting in his career. NAILED it.

[@ObiWanaSmoki]

This episode can really be appreciated more if you’ve seen a lot of Smallville. All the subtle acting choices from both Tom & John make this a top 5 episode for me. 💯

[@Celali-e5q]

Tom played some villains in Smallville inside Clark's own body, this time it was Lionel Luthor and on other occasions it was Clark Luthor "Ultraman" from Earth2 or Bizarro Clark who escapes from the Phantom Zone or even Clark Kent, not as a villain but under The effect of red kryptonite. And Tom managed to give each one his own personality, even the look and smile of each one is very different. In one chapter, Tess believes that she is talking to Clark Kent but suddenly realizes that it is Clark Luthor, then a very slight change in gaze escapes him, his tender smile turns into a fearsome one that leaves her frozen. He stops pretending and his personality changes drastically in an instant. What an amazing performance!

[@Smido83]

I completely agree. I can only think of David Boreanaz (Angel vs Angelus vs the other impersonations he does in his own show) who did as good of a job playing completely different characters on the fly.

[@MShaiqable]

One of THE BEST Smallville episodes, and Tom's acting was AMAZING! He's so talented and we truly see his range in this episode. He did such a FANTASTIC job emulating John Glover's mannerisms as Lionel. Just brilliant. 3 Roses!!

[@thevoiceoftheseagull7413]

Tom who played Lionel was fantastic, he was great. Tom was able to capture all the nuances of the character that wasn't his, even the most smallest, and made them his own. Changing the way you smile, changing your gaze and the whole attitude isn't always easy but Tom is very expressive which is why he is very good at changing his expression so quickly, and being very expressive is what is very important for an actor. I would tell anyone who still thinks Tom is only beautiful, to watch at least (and obviously not only) this episode of Smallville to understand that Tom is not only phisically gorgeous but also a great actor. ❤️❤️❤️

[@GeminiWolfstarGaming]

They actually say in the commentary for this episode that they had been wanting to do this kind of episode since season 1, and that it was just going to be with a regular prisoner, but they waited for John Glover, and John, by the sound of it, was humbled by that fact. I'm glad they waited. It really paid off. And it's one of the show's best episodes as a result.

[@audrajohnston2506]

Tom needs to give himself more credit! Great acting! One of my favorite episodes. The awkward parts were so awkward.😂

[@jonathancastro3106]

Tom did an amazing job impersonating Lionel, everything perfect, his movements, his rhythm of speech, even his laugh, great job Tom.

[@chand911]

To this day, nothing cooler than Clark walking back into the prison during the riot.

[@Spidyfish22]

And right after an epic Clark as Lionel beating down a big dude and everyone cheering him on. I think it gave Clark as Lionel so much confidence. Such an epic Showdown

[@DaveSkylark111]

Wearing all black, I can see a Johnny Cash connection.

[@glennturner3224]

My favourite episode of Smallville Tom as Lionel as Clark is astounding!

[@bilalmerhi542]

🌹🌹🌹 This episode rocks mainly because Tom Welling absolutely nails it! Obviously for the most part Rosenbaum's performance as Lex always steals the show for me but there's the odd episode when Tom really excels especially when he plays the villain even if he's under the influence of Red K. Don't get me wrong, Tom brings that pureness and innocence in Clark Kent better than most; it's just his acting chops are shown more in episodes like this, the way he takes Lionel's mannerisms and makes them his own so big kudos 👏

[@creolefemme9829]

I loved Tom in this episode. He nailed Lionel's mannerisms and carried himself with Lionel's smug confidence. It was great to watch and it seemed like a lot of fun for an actor!

[@colleenocallaghan2615]

I just finished watching this episode a couple days ago and each time I catch new things, such a great episode. It's hysterical how "Lionel" checks Clark's body out and is clearly impressed lol

[@ESantanaNL]

I loved this episode. Lionel entering Clark's body and causing a lot of confusion. I was surprised that Lex was the only one who saw that it wasn't Clark while Lana and Chloe and his own country didn't even notice. This episode reminded me a lot of the episode of Justice League Unlimited where Lex enters the Flash's body. Tom and Glover rocked the exchange of character interpretations. The Best.

[@edelmar17]

Good point, although I like to think of it as Lex recognizing his father in Clark. Also, by that point in the episode, Lionel inside Clark wasn’t trying as hard to masquerade as Clark.

[@danielporto3700]

Funny thing about this JLU episode, Michael (as flash) gets his body swapped, thus having him playing Lex Luthor on the animated universe as well

[@jerodast]

@@edelmar17 Exactly, his father deliberately gave it away, but it was also fitting for the characters for Lex to recognize who Clark WAS, rather than the other characters recognizing Clark behaving NOT like himself (but who else would he be?)

[@ItsWilliam235]

I know Tom is trying to be a perfectionist when looking back at the episode. He is looking at the smallest details that he would want to reshoot it. But to come on a show for the first four seasons and to learn from other actors; he really step up his performance when trying to replicate Lionel’s mannerisms. Don’t be so harsh on your performance Tom, you did an excellent job and so did John Glover.It’s one of my favourite episodes of season 4 that I could watch it all over again.

[@MrSweetchin]

This was one of my favorite episodes too, the slow motion walk of Clark in the prison at the end, with the music was perfect. Very nice cinematography. My cousin and I used to always say that line "it's me mom it's Clark" lol

[@jrchanning]

One of my favourite Smallville episodes, Tom and John were superb acting wise as each other, brilliant stuff 😆

[@BelleyPuffy]

O.M.G! Masterpiece of an episode! Brilliant performance by both actors. Tom really got Lional mannerisms, slow talk and flirty-creepy style, and John really got Clark's innocence, manners and goodness. There were so many great scenes. It's really difficult to choose only one. This episode deserves 3 roses 🌹 🌹 🌹

[@marshahaas1422]

I loved Tom's performance in this episode. He was great as lionel! This is one of the best episodes of smallville. I finally got Ryan's favorite scene this episode. Woohoo. As always thanks for talkville. Love it much!❤

[@martinmoreno1155]

New Talkville episode is one of my favorite parts of the week

[@ESantanaNL]

It’s always great hearing these pov’s. These people put their entire beings into the characters, you can’t tell me he wasn’t Superman/Clark Kent. But at the same time it feels rewarding actually meeting and enjoying a Tom and Michael who feels comfortable about opening up with his experiences on the show #talkville #smallville #michaelrosenbaum #tomwelling

[@justintutaki-martin8651]

The way they switched characters was amazing I was surprised at the performances loved this episode!

[@ryandeffley7652]

1) TW's delivery on "Pluck...your succulent fruit" is hilarious. 🤣 2) Also, this interaction gets me every time: Johnathan: Lift it up. Cl-ionel : Lift what? Johnathan: The tractor. Cl-ionel : How would I do that? Johnathan: Come on, let's go! **Lionel must've thought that Johnathan had a screwloose. 😆

[@FatimaTomsEnough]

Happy to see Tom, Michael & Ryan enjoy one of Tom's favorite episodes! I would have liked this TALK VILLE episode to be longer, but grateful how Michael & Ryan convinced Tom of his perfect performance as Lionel Luthor in "Transference", which is truly absolute perfection! It is amazing how Tom noticed some of the intricate details that were overlooked, and it would be interesting to see how Tom would have done things differently now!

[@jenniferjordan789]

This is one of my favorite Smallville episodes. 👍

[@wlvnheart]

This episode is so much fun! Glover and Welling mimicking each other is fabulous! They both did such a great job channeling each other's characters! Love it so much! Also, referencing "why Lionel was suddenly cured..." He was Clark... who is not affected by illness/disease, etc so with Clark inhabiting Lionel's body, - So as Clark, Lionel's body automatically healed completely. Then when they transformed back, it left Lionel sickness-free. My 2 Cents :)

[@dawnsnow7576]

Tom was magnificent!!! I LOVED at his episode! 3 roses all the way!! Loved Clark aka Lionel looked at his body and smiled!!!This is one of my favorites for sure

[@TrendyKendyFendi]

“I was tickled by watching them do each other” 😂😂 Rosenbaum is always hilarious!!!

[@thedefinitionisthis]

“Pluck your succulent fruit” was legendary lol. Definitely a season and overall series highlight. Tom Welling did a fantastic job channeling John Glover’s usual performance as Lionel, to give us the elder Luthor in Clark’s body. Though I gotta say that Glover did a great job as well. The scene he has with Martha in the prison (that sounds like the star of a completely different movie lol), and he recounts Clark’s childhood memory, for whatever reason always gets me low-key emotional lol. Great ep!

[@jerodast]

The way Annette sells the scene makes it work so well. If she was just more calmly like "oh! it is you!" the story would've sounded more ridiculous and melodramatic, but she responds with such intensity - as you should, if you discover your son is trapped in a murderer tycoon bastard's body - it's a total tearjerker!

[@Brook11223]

This episode was so good because of how Tom and John just played the other so convincingly and it reminded me of the Justice League Unlimited episode "The Great Brain Robbery" with Michael and Clancy switching places where they played the other so well. I love how BTS John Glover was asking Tom how to play Clark which was so incredible and the scene at the prison between Lionel-Clark proving that it's Clark to Martha was one of my favorite scenes and it gave me tears.

[@andynystrom1519]

That JLU episode has one of the all-time great scenes in any superhero fiction. Lex in Flash's body unmasks, frowns, and says "I have no idea who this is."

[@Brook11223]

@@andynystrom1519 Yup. So agree.

[@lindamawdsley6130]

This was such a powerful episode of Smallville and Tom and John played each other’s characters to perfection. Loved the discussions between Michael, Tom and Ryan which were fun and enlightening🤩

[@chernandez2132]

"Mom, it's me! It's Clark!" is another core Smallville memory of mine. Transference is so good and Tom and John both did fantastic jobs channeling the other characters. Definitely in my top 10 - maybe top 5 - for the series.

[@misoboskovic]

You're sick Lionel, you need help😂 Martha was so rude😃, and Lionel/ Clark was so cute and innocent in that scene. Always enjoyed Annette/ Glover scenes.

[@LivstevMotherEarth]

This is one of my favourite episodes period, if this isn't a three roses episode than I don't know what is. Tom's performance here was absolutely incredible, the way he had Lionel's mannerisms down pat was just sensational to watch. His gestures and expressions was all played to perfection. So it's interesting to learn that Tom would do some things differently, though I totally get that it would have been very helpful for him to have been able to have a chat with John Glover in preparation for this episode. Having a lack of that help and so little time to prepare though only makes his performance that more amazing when you think of it. So Tom, don't put yourself down too much, 'cause you did a fantastic job! The writing, the effects, the tension, the awkwardness, the pacing was all perfection. You truly get to realise just how much of a creep and pervert Lionel really is, with the way he hits on Martha let alone Chloe and Lana. If he was trying to convince everyone he was Clark, he wasn't doing a very good job of it. I like how Martha is the first to suss that something was not right with Clark, only a mother would truly know her son. She said it was something in his eyes but couldn't quite tell how or why. Still, it irked me that Chloe and Lana couldn't tell that something was off with Clark, especially with the language that he used. I mean, when has Clark ever referred to Chloe as "Miss Sullivan"?! Or uses language like "pluck your succulent fruit"?! Sure, there's been times where Clark hasn't acted like himself, like on Red K, but even then he wouldn't have used such language. It just made me sad how Chloe and Lana gave him stick for not acting himself when they have not been immune to freak occurrences where they haven't acted like themselves in the past. This is Smallville, after all. And Lana more so in the near future hint hint lol. That was the only thing in this episode that frustrated me, otherwise this episode was perfection. That riot scene was one of the coolest scenes in the history of the genre, or even any television period. And Jimmy Eat World's song Pain was the perfect song choice.

[@CrimsonButterfly91]

Probably top 10 episodes of the whole series ❤ that cell talk was gold 🌹🌹🌹 that soul swap still holds up 😢 and Clark is vulnerable to magic as well as Kryptonite the acting was so beautiful in this

[@wickideazy]

I've been waiting for this one. Transference is one of my absolute favorite episodes of the whole show. Both Tom and John Glover do amazing work capturing each others' speech patterns, cadence, and mannerisms. That little moment in the barn where Lana comes in and Lionel/Clark sort of rolls his eyes and says "now it's this one" always gets me.

[@willclips1.021]

I think the detail they put in the moment Lionel and Clark switch bodies, one's face goes to the other's for seconds, is really good.

[@ericadler9680]

Two and a half roses, this really rocked!! One of the most memorable episodes in the show.

[@AnansiTheLibra]

Easily one of my favorites!! Been looking forward to this since day one. Calling it now, Rosey’s giving it two Roses at minimum. So happy to have you guys doing this show, thank you so much for letting me relive my teenage years🙏🏿

[@marlenesheffield8777]

My absolute all-time favorite episode!! Tom and John were both brilliant but Tom was "top of the food chain" magnificent. This episode really highlighted Tom's range and showcased his ever-increasing acting chops and star power. 👋💛💙❤️💋💯

[@1027srich]

This episode was very good!!!... Shoutout to both Tom and Glover for playing each other's characters brilliantly 😎... The cool thing was when Clark tried to mend things with his friends due to Lionel's behavior (as Clark), the only person that forgave him was Lex... Granted it's understandable why Lana and Chloe wasn't trying to hear Clark's excuses, however, this brotherhood between Lex and Clark is something that has really carried this show throughout its peak years 😁... My favorite scene in this episode was when "Lionel" was able to convince Martha that he's really Clark as that was a true heartwarming moment 💙... All in all, I give this episode a strong 🌹🌹 (2 roses)!!!... #LoveThePodcastFellas #TalkvilleWednesdays

[@hazcatsophia]

I love love love this episode. It seemed to be so much fun for both actors.

[@BRobMint]

One of Smallville’s greatest episodes. 3 roses for me 🌹🌹🌹

[@theresemarkham9387]

Love this podcast and y’all. One thing that I noticed during the body switch that a green light came from Lionel and an orange light came from Clark. Both John and Tom gave brilliant performances in this episode. I love how they did each other’s nuances. Tom did a great job playing creepy Lionel and John brought a softness. I love the Edgar character. I enjoyed seeing Margo character back on in this episode. I also noticed that on the stone was the same symbol that is on Lana’s back. I like how water equals transference. Annette gave a great performance. I like how Lex asks what did your dad say to me after the accident. I noticed how Lionel changed at the end of this episode.

[@gpcbr1000]

The difference between Jonathan and Lionel‘s transference was that Jonathan gained all that strength in his own physical body. Where only Lionel‘s essence went into Clark’s body, so Lionel‘s old frail body did not have to handle the stresses of Clarks abilities. I can’t say how his liver ended up healing though.

[@jeffbrown8117]

Clark’s blood has healing abilities. It was established in season 2 that his blood vial was stolen from Dr. Bryce’s office. In season 3 Clark’s blood was turned into an experimental drug that Lionel was using to help cure his liver disease (he used Adam as a guinea pig). In transference, Clark’s blood cures Lionel’s liver disease. It doesn’t track completely but that’s how I always viewed it.

[@ajairgm3871]

I came to the conclusion that it had to do with a kryptonian soul inhabiting Lionels human body it wasn’t about lionel soul possessing clark but rather clarks soul possessing lionel that healed him but idk thats just a theory Edit: actually im not sure about this now because lionels condition was still getting worse while clark was possessing his body.

[@edwincarpenter2669]

So Cool to see Rosey as a fan of Tom's performance. He was nothing but complimentary and Tom did turn in a terrific performance. Way to go Rosey! Passing on the love.

[@missingyouale]

My absolute favourite episode of Smallville!! The acting in this one was INSANE ❤

[@MISAN-vc7pc]

And mine. But only mistake is John Glover he did not host in this Talkville episode. That woud be awesome.

[@cb4354]

Yes up there with memoria!

[@missingyouale]

@@MISAN-vc7pc yes i would have loved that

[@missingyouale]

@@cb4354 exactly!

[@luna.tic_7409]

As a stay at home mom. With two kids and a husband whom is deployed overseas. As well as a lifetime fan of Smallville (I was born in 2001). Thank you so much for giving me something to look forward too every week❤ I pray this makes it all the way too season 10, its my lifeline currently. Just like the show was growing up.

[@LiLisa24]

Tom and John Glover were so brilliant in this episode. You too Michael ❤ Transference is such a fantastic and fun episode. Listened to the podcast episode earlier and now going to go watch the video. Thank you guys ❤ Love this podcast so much ❤️❤️❤️ Happy Talk Ville Wednesday ❤️☄️🌽

[@miguelsilva3867]

I thought this episode really showed how Tom really shined as an actor. You can tell that his acting has really improved from season to season. This was really a Tom Welling and John Glover episode and it was great. They both really nailed playing each other. It reminded me of Face/Off. I think the only thing that helped the story move was Clark finding another stone. I like Lex's reaction after Clark gets back into his body. I give this episode 1 1/2 roses.

[@saraifigueroa8058]

This is one of my favourite episodes concerning acting. Tom and John really nailed it!!

[@leannepritchett6323]

So looking forward to this. I know how much this episode means to Tom. TGFTVW ❤️❤️🙏.

[@Costas22]

Lest we forget the song during the prison riot. "Pain" by Jimmy Eat World. Brilliant and perfect for the scene.

[@PMGU2]

Yes!! 100% agree!!

[@jsbrads1]

Unrelated: Reminded me of the prison riot in Bones where Dr. Bones is pregnant and everyone makes room for her 😂

[@yahmicah4294]

That was a Fun scene to watch! It really topped off this already dirty episode.😏😅

[@Spidyfish22]

Back in the day I totally replayed this song so many times after this episode lol it got me jacked! 😂

[@Hypershell]

Heck yeah! That was my favorite use of licensed music in the show.

[@jeffbrown8117]

35:41 established in Season 2 that Clark’s blood vial was stolen. Season 3… it was then used by Lionel to create a cure for Lionel’s liver disease. Season 4, Lionel’s soul is IN clark’s body with Clark’s BLOOD, and viola, Lionel’s liver disease is CURED. I’m honestly surprised how much people aren’t tracking the incredible continuity between all of these seasons with THIS story line. We’re on 3 seasons now of Clark’s healing blood being a main plot point.

[@premek17]

Transference is one of the best Smallville episodes ever. Tom playing Lionel and John playing Clark are just so fun to watch. Great performances and it's so great to look for the manerisms of each characters. Love that episode!

[@michellerowe9259]

I LOVE how much Ryan loved this episode! I’ve always loved watching Tom play John and John play Tom in this episode so I’m glad Ryan and Michael reminded Tom of how well he did. And I love that Tom’s “back pat” of Jonathan was ad libbed. I’ve always loved that scene!

[@jerodast]

I'm glad Ryan recapped his previous statement about not liking characters acting out of character, I wasn't sure if I was blowing those comments out of proportion. And even more glad this was an exception to that policy :) The back pat is hilarious, very impressed that came from Tom!

[@MSFHFEV]

2 important things to note 1.) The reason Jonathan has been hurt by the “powers” and Lionel wasn’t is because Lionel was just in Clark’s body while Jonathan temporarily held the powers in his own human body which is not meant to withstand them. 2.) You can essentially separate Lionel’s character arch into two different segments with this episode being the middle point. Up until now he was truly an evil man but the “transference” not only healed his liver but whatever darkness was in him as well. From this point on he is actually a pure and good character for the rest of the show even though no one believes that he has “changed”.

[@anninwhack1998]

I just love how Clark/Lionel says : “Oh this one” when Lana shows up. It’s just hilarious and very meta for the ongoing drama. My husband and I use that line all the time for a less than ideal scenario w our cats.

[@Spidyfish22]

I seriously used this scene too. It’s such a great way to brush off pain in such a funny way lol The way Lionel looked stressed as Clark was too funny.

[@jerodast]

Yes! I love that whole reaction haha. I actually feel like the guys missed some themes in that scene in 2 ways: First, they think Lionel's being creepy (and he is, for sure), but he starts the scene ANNOYED and wanting her to go away. It's only when she keeps pressing him that he changes direction and goes "fine, you want me to be jealous of your stupid little high school drama, HERE I AM." Second, they think Lana is at her "strongest" here, but...she literally came over to prod Clark about not being more perturbed about what he saw. Needy much?

[@jeffh06]

In the same boat😂 when ‘Clark’ is aggravated over 57 million withdrawal when Lana showed up just not a good when hes not his as self, during distract frustrate and jumps in to the romancing pushes to the subject now dating Jason when moving on as student with a school gym coach, and winds up getting dirty in Pluck your succulent fruit😈 Tom did perfectly😂

[@MISAN-vc7pc]

😂😂😂😂 i waithing this episode this is my favorite. Tom Welling just nailed Lionel Luthor expresion. He was awesome when first time lift tractor. Lift ???? Lift what😂😂😂

[@Onigirli]

For me it's when Jonathan pats his shoulder and Lionel-Clark interprets it like some sort of power move and obnoxiously pats him back lol

[@jerodast]

@@Onigirli I was SO impressed to hear that was Tom's idea haha. This episode is chock full of hilarious interactions and that one is right up there. Lionel would absolutely resent the peasant Jonathan Kent giving him a condescending pat.

[@thevoiceoftheseagull7413]

You see how Tom always highlights all the smallest nuances of the scenes, dialogues and characters, even in the voices and looks. Likewise he managed to capture all the nuances of Lionel's character and make it his own. Tom is a very deep guy and he is a perfectionist and like any perfectionist he is very critical of himself. I wish you were less critical and hard on yourself Tom because you undoubtedly deserve all the wonderful compliments you receive. You are great and I love you so much. ❤️❤️❤️

[@Debora_Cuocci]

It's one of the strongest episodes of Smallville, a beautiful episode 1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣❤❤❤

[@glesnietutty8444]

This was definitely one of the best episodes. Tom did an amazing job playing Lionel and vice versa for John Glover my favorite scene was when Clark convinces Martha that it is him great acting to everyone in this Episode 2 🌹 for me

[@nehoragelbart]

Another Wednesday another epic episode ❤❤ obsessed with season 4 😍

[@kingcocacola1]

Really love the switchback scene it's so memorable, Clark getting his body back, Lionel seeing Clark standing in the mist before dissapearing, shredding any hope Lionel had left to make it out alive and somehow you can almost see him being regretful of his actions.

[@Thenathanchannel2]

I rewatch the episodes so much closer and go in depth because of yall❤

[@jsbrads1]

Guards aren’t opening doors for Clark, Clark is using the moment that doors open to rush in.

[@aerialsdaddy]

Love the show and appreciate you guys doing this. It really is the icing on the cake.

[@DarthDread-oh2ne]

Great job with the video. I enjoyed reminiscing.

[@-M0LE]

*_Exceptional_* Episode Acting wise Tom *NAILED* it and John Glover was literally like Clark...his one look he used was the scared puppy look for Clark and it worked 😂

[@jeffbrown8117]

The way this ties into Season 3 with Clark’s blood being used as a cure is awesome. Lionel’s soul being trapped in Clark’s body (with Clark’s Blood) is what cured him and I think that’s some AMAZING continuity and writing. 26:17

[@santiagomillan2489]

TGI Wednesday!!!!Best episode of the season and one of the best of the entire series!! Love you guys!!!

[@AM99884]

I’m still on season 2 (it’s my first time watching). I’ve been listening to the podcast alongside & it’s so great to get a behind the scenes for every episode! I’m desperately trying not to give myself any spoilers, but this is so wild that Lionel inhabits Clark’s body?!? 😂 I can’t wait to get to this episode. I have to start binge watching now & maybe I’ll catch up before you get to season 6 hopefully. Love your podcast so much guys! ❤

[@idrc1415]

I think the reason John's liver was healed had something to do with his essence having mixed somewhat with Clark's, getting infused with a tiny element of his power, just enough to heal him. Or maybe it was the stone he used to transfer them.

[@ace360]

Period one of the Best episodes of Smallville, Tom's Legendary Acting! The Mannerisms! And John as well Truly believe Clark is Lionel Luthor! And Lionel is Clark! Truly show's how powerful and Dangerous a Kryptonian could be and so put a Mind Like That in the Body oh boy!, I Love this so much and how it is the Turning point of Lionel Luthor after he Returns back to he's Body Clark Spirit Healed him The power's of a Future Superman! He find's out! And The start of he's Redemption and trying things Different, Phenomenal Episode! 😂 Love your guys choice's on Body change's lol And Tom Michael Thanks for this past weekend had a blast Love you guys 💙❤️🤘 🌹🌹🌹

[@JPDarkHeart02]

Big difference between Jonathan Kent's body getting Kryptonian powers and Lionel Luthor's body being inhabited by (what I'll call) Clark's essence. It was the Kryptonian abilities that messed with Jonathan's heart. Clark's essence, not his powers, cured Lionel's disease. Lionel's body never had Clark's powers.

[@amandabennard4147]

One of my favorite episodes! ❤

[@munozali1]

One of my favorite episodes. I give it 3 roses. Thank you, guys!

[@Pamwade-x5k]

Loved this episode. Tom was outstanding. I love the show and podcast.

[@titanstown2452]

It was one of the best of season 4! It was like watching Nic Cage and John Travolta in Face Off, especially that slo-mo walk by Tom leaving the prison. Great episode guys!

[@theresemarkham9387]

Love how the symbols fire, air, and water all equal ultimate knowledge. I wonder if that was intentional for Lana’s tattoo to match the stone that Lionel had?

[@inTWelligent]

I think it was, because her having that tattoo meant that Isabel could "switch" (or transfer) her consciousness into Lana's body, just like Clark and Lionel switched (/transferred) bodies.

[@spencergsmith]

It makes perfect sense that Jonathan’s heart would suffer after his body was granted Kryptonian powers for a day to bring Clark home. However, Lionel’s body was filled with Clark’s pure spirit, but not Kryptonian physical abilities that would tax his body the same way they did with Jonathan.

[@misoboskovic]

"Pluck your succulent fruit" dirtiest episode, for sure😂. That was Lionel! What can i say " Transference" is one of the best of entire series, i can watch it over and over again, it never get's boring. Tom nailed it, Glover nailed it❤

[@yahmicah4294]

I was like “Hol UP” until I caught on to how he was just F’ing with her bc he found her alive and well.

[@misoboskovic]

​​@@yahmicah4294Lionel always was in a playful mood...with everyone😃 Such a great character.

[@leejtam0914]

Run and Transference are the best episodes of season 4 and the season finale.

[@jerodast]

"Transference" definitely 1 or 2, but "Run" is among a host of other "quite good" ones to me: "Pariah." Game changer in multiple ways. "Blank" flies under the radar but I think it's great. Tons of people love "Onyx" but overrated IMO. "Spirit" is so bad it's good - and has the best line ever on _Smallville._ It's funny Tom pre-emptively shitting on "Jinx" - "let's see if Al & Miles even remember it." It may be firmly middle-of-the-road freak of the week, but it has the MOST memorable super speed scene of all time. Plus an interesting Lex reveal. I bet they remember it. [Hm all of my picks are Chloe episodes what a coincidence :P]

[@lifeisberserk9566]

And Onyx

[@leejtam0914]

@@lifeisberserk9566 forgot about that

[@Marvellous132]

Pariah is one of my favourites for its effect on the whole series, and it was so tragic as well. Seeing Clark emote to that extent was another great piece of acting by Tom.

[@Shenron907]

Such a good episode. As actors you all did some serious work. Talent came out in ways I don't think we have seen at this point.

[@Tyler-Clark]

Transference is an amazing episode. Everyone's acting, but especially Tom and John's, is top notch since they have to play the other. I also love that Clark's essence of who he is is what heals Lionel. I don't believe it's Clark's powers that healed him since Lionel's liver never left his body, only who they are as people transferred. Not to get too religious but imo this is just another time where the Superman/God similarities of the lore and original intent of the character come into play. Clark himself, his soul if you will, is so pure that he healed Lionel's body while inside of him.

[@donnabook6942]

I love Smallville. This is my favorite show. I wish you would find a way to reboot it. You can tell how much you guys ment to all.

[@lifeisberserk9566]

My favorite show to

[@ANoss13]

Can we get a shirt that’s like the “face off” movie poster with half of Tom’s face half glover face with Ryan’s quote “ I get tickled when two characters do each other” haha

[@jerodast]

This is brilliant. This is the one Smallville/Talkville merch I would buy.

[@wolfmanjack9959]

Anyone else love when Michael goes into his impressions? Cause it’s one of the best parts of the pod for me haha

[@marktipton1663]

Loved this episode of smallville. Talkville is always so so good to dissecting each episode (shitting on them and all) 🤣 Thank you Tom, Michael, Ryan.

[@sofiadrosos1308]

One of the best episodes. Great analysis as always. I enjoyed it.

[@geeemm135]

one of the best episode of the series. easily 3 roses.

[@tristantandberg]

Favorite ep of show, amazing clark fight scene at end where Clark is weaker and has to deal with that. Clark inside lyonel healed his liver, because supposidedly Clark is pure goodness. Which is a superman animated series trope. So pure goodness can heal.

[@gabetrix]

TalkVille is on a roll! What an amazing run of episodes! Great job!!!

[@Costas22]

This was BY FAR the best episode of the season until this point and until the season finale (Commencement). For one thing, Glover was finally back. Secondly, the body switch ala Face Off was a cool concept that worked perfectly due to Lionel's imprisonment. Thirdly, both guys, especially Tom, did amazing with their new characters. In fact some of Tom's mannerisms were so good that even Glover would have been proud. Lastly, the Stones arc was FINALLY advanced. The only part I didn't like was the relationship drama. Especially the end with Chloe and Lana taking turns yelling Clark's head off was too much. But other than that, awesome episode.

[@PMGU2]

My favourite EP from season 4! The prison riot scene with Pain by Jimmy Eat World in the background is epic!

[@bensneb360]

Tom must’ve had a blast playing Lionel, he’s so fun and entertaining in the role

[@kexantus]

Such a great episode! One of the best for sure. I love watching Clark be un-Clark-like, whether he’s playing Lionel or on red kryptonite. He’s got chops! 🎥 🍿