Tally Ho Capstan Restoration: Boring a Hole through the Capstan Base

Tally Ho Capstan Restoration: Boring a Hole through the Capstan Base
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[@alexanderkielczynski2437]

Leo's project has been high-class from the start. how he has managed to get the experts in all fields from spar making to this capstan re-manufacture is a miracle! wonderful to watch.

[@blueblur6447]

He had 2 hiccups, first go at the tanks and first go at the pour. But people of high class stepped up to help after. Every aspect of that ship is a fascinating story. Have enjoyed every minute :)

[@johnl7710]

The group of people who are working on this Tally Ho project is an amazingly skilled set of craftsmen. It is all fascinating to watch. Be great to see this capstan haul its anchor on theboat one day.

[@MikeAG333]

One day fairly soon, I think.

[@yolanda231000]

The running joke at TallyHo is 2 years it will be ready.

[@MikeAG333]

@@yolanda231000 It is, but Leo said recently he hoped to be sailing her this year.

[@Bob_Adkins]

Ew, wood people.

[@vicmiller7191]

This was strangely captivating. Most likely because I have been following the Tally Ho project from the beginning and feel very invested in that project. And of course you are the man for this job. and using tools that have such a vintage history is the icing on the cake for the whole project. Thank you Keith.

[@alstonofalltrades3142]

Be very careful! I too came here from Tally Ho when he partial restored the threading machine nearly 4 year ago. Most of them years I watched regularly and could even leave a video for a few days or sometimes a week before I watched it. Now I'm jonesing days before every video. I can't get enough, It's no longer under control, I've nearly come to shouting at Mr Rucker in all CAPS not because I'm a bad guy and typical ingrate, It's it's I never knew the dangers of iron deficiency. There was no education like that in school back in my day to warn me. Ill try take some solace that I hope I've warned you and others enough!

[@alexanderkielczynski2437]

I agree completely! I also follow Leo.

[@dwaynekoblitz6032]

While I can run the mill, I'm no machinist. It's always so satisfying watching someone that is a machinist. Great video!

[@deej19142]

Watching the video and trying not to get distracted by the wooden machinist toolboxes. So cool!

[@mechaform]

Part of the appeal of your content, Keith, is taking the time to explain your thought process and associated reasoning behind the approaches you take.

[@BillB23]

Doing precise work on an imprecise casting looks challenging. Thanks for the video.

[@earth_ling]

When I was working down in south Florida years ago…a high school friend of mine’s father was employed as a machinist in the place where I worked. It was always interesting to me to watch him working with his lathe. So it was never boring. I have always enjoyed learning about something new to me. I have known several machinists over the years and have had the pleasure of watching them utilize their trade as they turned a blank piece of steel into whatever was required for them that day. To me they were more like artists. 😊

[@anthonyrondolino8148]

Very interesting seeing you apply the combination of knowledge, specialized tools and skill to get these complex tasks done.

[@aserta]

Once again, machinist jacks save the day. They're kinda like the f-clamps of the wood working world. Can never have enough of them around the shop. :))

[@anthonyelam2257]

You need to go on Tally Ho when finished and go sailing .... ps .... do a video of you operating the capstain winch that you worked on .... that would be a great video and fun for you .... ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊 ....

[@JOHNNYHASKETT-u7b]

OMG! Hadn't watch you for a while and you have lost sooo much weight! Congratulations !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DavidSellars-b8l]

Mr. R, you have a shop to kill for. There are commercial shops nowhere near as complete as what you have. Great to see what you are doing.

[@walterplummer3808]

Good morning Keith. Thanks for the videos.

[@craigevans6156]

Watching you work is facilitating. A true craftsman 😎

[@BlankBrain]

I'm an old guy, and have always worked with imperial measurements. I made a point of becoming very comfortable with metric because it challenged my thinking. It's like learning a new language. I remember in my FORTRAN days when I switched from writing spaghetti code to structured code. It was a paradigm shift. Same with moving from direct access files to relational databases. I had surgery on my right hand, and had to learn how to write with my left for a while. All of these things keep the brain active. I hope AI doesn't make people dumber.

[@mdouglaswray]

The only thing 'boring' about this video was the tool (and I don't mean you, ya monstah). Thanks Keith!!! Thrilled to see parts for Tally Ho nearing completion!!

[@jamesnielsen347]

Great Equipment / Great Machinist! Thank you for your expertise!

[@LILLJE]

To be honest I haven’t watched Keith much for a few years but now I’m back and I see a half of a previous Keith. Looking good! Hope it’s a health choice and not something bad going on. Keep it up!

[@mschmitz57]

Thanks for helping Leo Keith. Love your videos.

[@benjaminromberg2091]

You have a beautiful milling machine, makes me wish I got into metal work.

[@MrKotBonifacy]

Indicating the centre of that base - I wouldn't assume the outside of that taper is concentric (coaxial) with the inner borehole, and to deal with rough spots I'd just make a sort of a plug that fits snugly, with no play, and with a machined collar above that "drop-in" part (so it would sit there), and THEN I'd take the reading from the outer surface of that collar. That inner bore was obviously machined, and that rough spot is, I reckon, some void in the casting, so if a plug is used there there's no rough spot to deal with. And since the collar would be machined in one go with the plug it'd be 100% coaxial with the borehole, AND on the top of it that plug could average any possible wear in the borehole. Just make it 4" or so long, and it'll give you the most accurate reading possible in this situation. Or so I think.

[@Bob_Adkins]

The void in the casting ID only covered about 15 degrees of rotation, so it can be ignored. The OD agreed with it anyway, so it was as concentric as possible, and plenty good for the application. The plug idea is very good if you have several voids in the ID that prevent you from reading the indicator accurately enough.

[@Hoaxer51]

I enjoy reading the comments that Keith’s viewers write in, it’s interesting to see the different ways a machining job can be done and there’s usually at least more than one way of doing the job. You never know when you might need to use one of the those other ideas, like the old saying about there being more than one way to skin a cat. Lol

[@MrKotBonifacy]

@@Bob_Adkins Yes, but then the crux of the plug approach - in my mind, that is - is "simplicity with the added benefit of removing the possibility of any wear induced error". I mean, this capstan has been used for quite a while before, in adverse conditions (salt water spray), and with force pulling the inner shaft always in one direction - which could cause the borehole to get "ovalised" a little. Now, I'm not saying it was the case, and neither I am saying Keith's method was wrong. It was more about "the simplest and most 'elegant' solution" and also about those "mental ruts" we all have, which compel us to follow certain paths even if easier and simpler ones are available. Aka "thinking within the box", and I noticed it to be often the case with seasoned machinists, like Keith or Adam Booth (Abom79). Or, in other words, "'we humans are creatures of habit" - which -are- is our second nature. And then there's this German saying "warum einfach wenn's auch compliziert geht" (why [do it] simple [way] if [it could be done] the complicated way), but I digress here ;-)

[@MrKotBonifacy]

@@Hoaxer51 _"more than one way to skin a cat"_ - mind you, I'm a "cat person" and my cat is sitting right now on my lap looking at yer comment... ;-)

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

Well, if the location tolerance is tight and super critical, I would be worried about the inner and outer diameter being coaxial along with the two diameters being perpendicular to the base as well. However, he's dealing with a 110 year old sand casting with wear included. I'm not sure if he has the measuring equipment to deal with it in such an exacting manner, if it's even needed in the first place. I'm sure it's location will be good enough for what's intended. In a precision manufacturing setting, I would have measured it on a CMM to give the machinist the optimal location in a circumstance such as this. Of course there are other, more manual ways to measure this on a surface plate, but the CMM is faster and very precise.

[@edwardcassel3789]

I really enjoy watching you guys working on this capstan. I spent almost 50 years myself in an engineering environment as a piping designer/checker. Great work.

[@rick91443]

Really enjoy watching. Thank you Keith...rr Normandy, France

[@Wasa9191]

Nice work and described process very well.

[@MicksWorkshop]

Nice! Man that Index mill is incredible, so versatile and apparently very rigid too.

[@GordonjSmith1]

Totally in awe of the skill being demonstrated here, however a switch to metric would bring a lot of joy to this workshop! I know it is difficult as my fifth generation UK company used 'imperial' measurement for about 250 years ! However life has certainly been easier now we have 'moved over'.

[@charliekamerer7023]

Thank you for your instructive style, we laymen appreciate your help to understand what's going on!

[@tompearson6022]

Kieth you are a “natural “ on camera, keep up the good work.

[@MikeBaxterABC]

2:00 LOVE this project!!! ... This is totally something I would do myself! :) I worked as a Millwright for over 25 years, but a "Construction MIllwright" where I'd work doing retrofits and repairs on any factory imaginable, and nurse old equipment back to health! :)

[@russmartin4189]

I never really knew what a machinist does, nor could I imagine. Now I do. No doubt you qualify as a master machinist. You don't get to that level without a passion, intelligence, and a huge amount of patience. It makes me wonder if there are people coming up who will be able to take your place. To me, it looks like a dying art, or trade, but one that has to be done because of all the needs of civilization. Two thumbs up!

[@jameshamre8778]

Cool tools! Love the inside bore micrometer. These are such interesting videos. Thanks for sharing.

[@odgc8]

Incredible skill

[@Rogedebb67]

Back in y day iWas a toolmaker I I se you are using a Bridgeport great milling machine and a digital feed out IAm 80 years young and enjoying your video 👍⁵

[@jonnenne]

I am absolutely hooked with these different tools and measuring. I have only worked with "normal life" tools, ie carpentry measuring tools, basic calipers etc. But I have always wondered how machining gets stuff so accurate anf precise.

[@gordonchapman222]

I think it is absolutely amazing that you got the hole drilled with such perfect precision. You really know your stuff.

[@Stupha_Kinpendous]

Man, I'd happily watch your channel if all you ever did was walk around silently filming all of your machines. That stuff is so freaking cool.

[@Stavoren405]

Beautiful to see a master craftsman / artist at work. Many thanks

[@JohnVegas]

Your family is the most important thing. We will pray.

[@NeilHarrison-p9h]

This was a very interesting video - seeing how this type of machining is done , and the expertise involved was awesome!

[@robertharker]

Thalking about machinist jacks and how you clamped the part were great. Keep up the informative videos!

[@gardenman3]

Its great how people from different parts of the world can work on a project and make it come together

[@klauswittrupjensen]

Hi Keith. You looks absolutely phenomenal ❤ what a transformation. No more short breath. Well done m8

[@davidchapman6308]

Facinated by your methods and logic, also very interested to see that the chuck works by only hand tightening. Amazing.

[@johncloar1692]

Another step along the way, Thanks Keith for the video can't wait for the next. Have a truly wonderful day!!!

[@davidhall1779]

sound a bit congested there Keith. hope you’re feeling better soon. loving the Tally Ho progress.

[@mungolianbeef]

+2/-0 thou is a lot tighter tolerance than I was expecting!! Wow.

[@clkersting]

I'm in the skilled trades and used imperial for the majority of my journey, however when the NEC started publishing in both systems I decided to give the metric system a chance. I soon realized how easy it is to use and the math is simple. I'm a convert.

[@georgestone1282]

Another great video,, I also follow Talley Ho project. George from Indiana

[@mrfarmall-vk4gw]

Nice job👍👍

[@edricoddot]

Great job Keith.

[@mcnut1]

Fascinating. Very good video. Thank you for posting.

[@peternash6206]

Great story Keith - all looking good. I am in Europe and I still guess in inches but have to work in Metric. Thanks for sharing.

[@earnknee]

So interesting. Thanks.

[@russellmurphy8111]

Excellent work and consistent execution!

[@MrChevelle83]

I have a boring project coming up, Boring some chevrolet 19.5 10 lug wheels out to fit a ford f450, However I dont have a bore indicator or a DRO, My method is to make an alignment tool with my lathe and mount it in the chuck of the milling machine and work off the original hub and then use a boring head to cut them out. And BTW steel dually truck wheels are so seriously tough steel to work with and carbide is the minimum if you want to get anything done in reasonable amount of time!

[@davidapp3730]

Nice work on the capstan base

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

Thoroughly absorbing video. Looking forward to the next instalment.

[@robertgarrett5009]

Thanks for sorting out the Metric/Imperial question I had.

[@paulputnam2305]

Awesome job boring Keith! I wonder if the non-machinist realize your total tolerance was half the thickness of a piece of paper. Thanks for sharing this with us!

[@JurgenStrauss-ow2ge]

You took out much strength of that base !!!

[@frankerceg4349]

Thank you Keith!

[@RoyBlumenthal]

I love your work, Keith. Thanks.

[@timharris6835]

Great work Keith.

[@bobdylan7120]

I'm an Aerospace Chief Engineer and, although I live and work in England (a metric country), I too speak in inches. It's because our work is centred on modifying American aircraft. Favourite trick on the shop floor is to send an apprentice to the tool store for an adjustable spanner then, when he returns, berate him for bringing a Metric adjustable not the required Imperial adjustable. It's surprising how many fall for it.

[@patrickgrochowy]

People who "prank" apprentices are just disgusting assholes ...

[@johnbewick6357]

I am English, born and bred. Grew up in the fifties / sixties. Been using Imperial and Metric all my life now, and have no problem with either system. Just have to remember which one I am using on every job. DROs make life easy being switchable between the two.

[@ellieprice363]

Yes. Even worse a “left handed metric”.

[@csnelling4]

Thanks Keith a good job done 👌👍

[@byronwatkins2565]

I do love a boring bar on a milling machine!

[@mobiousenigma]

keith ..as always thanks for the videos! i am still amazed at your change of appearance over the last year and hope all is well. the old unit of measurement debate... personally i have had to learn both and others many will never have heard of like chains links and rods.. the best i can say is use the one that makes your job easiest as no matter which scale it is it is a fabrication that was agreed to be the convention.....you could measure in bees knees if everyone agreed to it lol. now having said it dosnt matter i will also say most things are still produced to imperial dimensions from imperial sized materials.... drywall is still 4x8 even if it has impossible to remember mm dimensions marked on it.

[@bigredc222]

very good

[@andypughtube]

You need a Wohlhaupter. Then you can add cut without stopping the spindle. And they are _lovely_ things too.

[@jackdotzman2908]

Enjoyed it Keith. 👍 We’re in Missouri

[@stuartlast8156]

Absolutely brilliant !! Well done 👏👏

[@ross82]

Awesome workshop, would of been neat to see how you squared up the piece as well as finding its centre.

[@stevenclaeys6252]

Thank you for another great video. Cheers

[@davidc6510]

Awesome work Keith. The level of attention to detail to dial in the center of the shaft and locate the center of the hole to be bored was enjoyable to watch. Any idea why the engineers that drew the plans had you bore the hole through the thickest portion of the casting where doing so in the thinner areas would have made more sense keeping the integrity of the structure intact? Great channel and I am happy to have found you via the Tally Ho project. Thanks for sharing?

[@tomswindler64]

Very nice,impressive milling 👍👍👍😎😎😎

[@davestambaugh7282]

The Wells Index unlike the Bridgeport has a head that rotates from the centerline of the spindle making angle adjustments far easier because you do not have to compensate for your second rotation.

[@martinteuber2313]

"it's not my native language." 🙂 don't bother, nobody is perfect! 🙂 🙂 i love your channel, even it is not my native language. thank you (from a metric guy)

[@beelerfamilyfarm]

What an extraordinarily cool project. Not as much as the steam engine, but, I'm more a rail guy than a ship guy. LOL

[@arnhemseptember2009]

Well done!!

[@eXactModellbau]

Why did they decide to bore out the web? Why not the the hollow between?

[@dk2614]

More meat for the pinion gear that will be working inside the hole. The pinion gear will be working in terms of torque or twisting force and the webbing gives just a bit more support. He's working off from prints but and engineer likely made those choices to retrofit the capstan to an electric/ mechanical drive.

[@olivier2553]

Buying pipe fittings yesterday, we had the same confusion between 3/4" and 1". Luckily, I caught it before we left the stoire.

[@MZ-gz8vz]

Love your channel!!

[@PhotogNT]

Australia changed from imperial to metric in 1974 whilst I was still at school. As a result I often utilise a mixture of imperial and metric, I might be measuring something and measure one side in inches and the other side in millimetres it just depends on what fits at the time, nuts you might say but it works for me. Generally I do try to stick with metric as much as I can. 🤯

[@markthompson4885]

Also in my High school in Georgia metric system was introduced to us and we were told US was changing to it. The Interstate hwys were all marked with both km and mile signs . But now mostly just Mile markers

[@Hoaxer51]

@@markthompson4885, When the U.S. tried to switch to the metric system I was working with a road construction company and we did two jobs that were done in metric and the mistakes everybody made were very costly in the time it cost to build it, to the cost to replace some of the concrete work. As a concrete sub, we refused to bid any more metric jobs and most of the general contractors refused also. To get jobs done they had to go back and get the blueprints switched back, resurvey the jobs, it was a nightmare. One of the problems was catching mistakes, if somethings say, 6 inches off you noticed it, if something’s 12mm off it didn’t register because nobody understood what 12mm was. Over time it would have worked because you get used to using that number system but it would have put companies out of business because of the mistakes. The fact that companies refused to bid on the jobs made the government back down and drop the whole metric switch over.

[@ulie1960]

@@Hoaxer51Somehow this looked to me like "We did it always this way, so why should we change?". I also believe that for the US not to change is mostly due to the high costs. Just imagine you have to convert all machines to scales in mm instead of inches. When I was new in the trade there was the discussion to change the numbers for angles too. The idea was to go from 360° to 400° for a full circle. Then a right angle would have been 100° and it would be easier to calculate from there. But this got stopped mostly for the same reason. If would have been to expensive to change all tools and machines to those new scales. Your example of 6 inches off you notice, but 12 mm didn't register (because nobody understood was 12mm was) is a wee bit scewed too. I don't have a problem to see 6 inches off, because 152.4 mm off is easy to see. But 12 mm aka 0.472 inches (or just under 0.5 inches) is harder to see. It is not that hard to just remember that 1" is 25.4 mm. Even I can do that, but beyond that the whole inch system is a mistery to me. But on another note I have to say that as being a metallworker for 45 years in Germany I'm totally in awe about the ability of those people who can work in both system simultanusly. If I came across a drawing with only inches on it I had to get my calculator out to see what its has to be in mm. Therefore those drawings were converted to mm in our construction department. I had some of those drawings when I had to make a tool for Lufthansa for their engine maintenance crew. Since they came from Boeing or the engine manufacturer in the US those tools where constructed in inches and in our company they got converted to mm. It did come to some courious details like this: I got a measurment of 5.99 mm + - 0.5mm. In a German drawing nobody would have written this, because in that range a measurment without a specific tolerance would have been + - 0.3 mm. So they would just have written 6 mm on the drawing and the result would in any case be more precise as if someone used the max tolerance written on the drawing I got.

[@MrChevelle83]

Im in the US , on my job we use both metric and standard as well, I actually like both because im so used to using them and sometimes one lends itself to certain projects. I do however prefer miles when driving just because its ingrained in my DNA.

[@ulie1960]

@@MrChevelle83You said it, people prefer the system they are most used to. For me it is metric, but when I vacationed in the US I drove without any problem regarding speed limits because I just had to look at the speedometer to comply to the given speedlimit. Following a different speedlimit compared to my home country (Germany... and yes even in Germany and even on the Autobahn there are speedlimits... 🙄 ) is no problem for me, because if you cross a border to a neighbouring country there is a different set of speedlimits to comply to. I only had problems once when driving on a vacation in Ireland and Northern Ireland and multiple times crossing the border. On one side of that almost non existing border they use kilometer/hour and on the other side miles/hour. And the car just showed kilometers/hour.... The only detail that helped me to be sure where I was were the signs showing a distancee to the next bigger town. If I saw somthing like 7 1/2 then I knew I was in Northern Ireland. In a kilometer system you never show 1/2 km on a streetsign.

[@schwiftyoliver77]

Great video 👍

[@964cuplove]

NICE work, especially lining up a rough cast bit to that precision… I’m surprised you put the axis of that drive shaft in the rib rather than between two ribs. I thought the hole would be placed in between the more solid parts of the existing base

[@scottkarjala]

cast steel? well done!

[@alandaters8547]

It will be interesting to see how the whole motor drive mechanism comes together. When mounting this on the milling machine, I am assuming that the hub gave it perfect alignment (shaft tube inline with the mill).

[@pwbpeter]

Good job Mrr Kieth good engineers can work in imperial or metric like you say, both have their good and bad points.

[@michaelc.3812]

I’m an electrical engineer, and as most all engineers, I seethe incredible value of a base-10 system, such as the SI (System International). Even the Brits changed to SI, and they invented the Imperial System! Oh well, we are slowly drifting that way….😂

[@SanchoPanza-m8m]

He was already using metric for everything on the right side of the decimal. As you say, drifting that way indeed.

[@andrewwittkamper2837]

If only SI were base 12 instead!

[@boomerang379]

Wow! I haven’t watched in a long time. Who is this new guy?

[@sunny71169]

When the capstan is installed on Tally Ho's deck and the pinion gear engages the ring gear, we will see and hear whether "close enough" is good enough.

[@I_Dont_Answer_Questions]

It is far from precision. To be honest it needs to be a worm gear. But I'm dumb like that... using capstans that always stay exactly where I leave them.

[@ravenbarsrepairs5594]

IF the design hadn't been already professionally engineered, I'd suggest having another casting made, identical to this piece so they can sandwich the deck between the 2 castings to maximum structural support for the motorized version.

[@jefftabor595]

Entertaining

[@mikerotschy2232]

hole saws work suprisingly well if you blow the chips out and flood with coolant

[@fwinckowski]

Thank you

[@bwyseymail]

I am really surprised that the casting wasn't modified to put more metal around the bore hole. It now has a significant weak point and no flat area to mount the motor.

[@frederickstibbert7389]

The motor won't be mounted to this capstan base. Instead, a ring-shaped flange will be bolted to the 7 holes that surround the bore hole. This flange will support a bearing for the upper end of the new driveshaft & its mechanical clutch, as well as a sleeve for the driveshaft. At the bottom of the sleeve, another flange will support a 2nd bearing & the case of a worm & gear transmission. The motor itself is mounted to the side of transmission, & drives its worm gear.

[@MrMilothedog]

I know VERY LITTLE about machining but have been surprised watching all your cutting, lathe work and drilling on this capstan project, that I haven’t seen you use any lubrication fluid (oil, slurry, etc?) on this casting. Is that standard? As a neophyte, I have always used “cutting oil” when drilling metal. Can you explain when lube is required?

[@garybrenner6236]

Is the Stoker Engine coming up next?

[@thefirstcalled]

Mesmerizing!!!!!😊