Tamar Braxton and Vince fighting each other on TV | Embarrassing SMH! (Episode Review)

[@Empressive]

Enunciation 101 - ProBLEM...yes I know folks lol. That's a bad habit of mine. And I know a lot of people disagree with me for putting the blame on Vince. I was just breaking down some of the things that I observed from this particular episode. Honestly, both Vince and Tamar are equally responsible for the tension in their marriage, which is why I said they need to work on communicating better.

[@Heartspoken7]

Empressive not to worry.....no proBLEM.....we will watch your videos regardless....well the loyal ones. X

[@klmitchellbrown]

Love your vlog. It’s ok to have different opinions. I post on your vlog all the time. Keep up the interesting work 👍🏾

[@eddierogers3609]

Empressive its vinces fault for falling for a seductress and its her fault for marrying her trick. Its not his fault he has feelings and irs not her fault the she doesnt have those same feelings. But at the end of the day. U dont let your left hand know what the right hand does. Point being they mixed business with pleasure... Oil and water doesn't mix

[@zakiyyah54]

Well I agree with Vince being more the bad guy then she. He picks, preaches and disrespects her continually. In one episode few seasons ago he pulls a Spanish looking girl into their argument and literally while trying to prove his point about what's disrespectful was being fully disrespectful to this unsuspecting woman while throwing his arms around the I guess cabana girl. He is nuts and Tamar is just who she is-

[@chocolaterini17]

I think Vince is the actual bullly....just watch season 1 again. He will talk down to her infront of kids! Imo..the most disgusting thing he did was after Tamar gave birth, he took Logan out of the car and just left Tamar to take the bags. I hated him after that!

[@Tashone26]

In the scene where she tells him he's going to be exposed, I believe that is why she spoke about her marriage in front of her friends. I believe she purposely wanted people to hear and see how he treats her. Its a call for help from what Im discerning.

[@ThatssoRavenDeNai]

No To The Sunken Place true 💯

[@MariahWyattBraxton]

No To The Sunken Place Same

[@prettydall]

She need to shut the fuck up... Vince is a man and he can do better, he does not need this stupid bitch

[@Official.tadiwa]

Wet Back lol aint nobody want that abusive behavior. He can go eat someone elses finger

[@gaden74]

Wet Back exactly

[@mrs.cookielyonlyon8916]

Damn did she say a velcro relationship🤔? You do have to give your significant other some space. How else are they going to get the chance to miss you, and appreciate the little things that you do. Absences makes the heart grow fonder.

[@Aliasss]

"Velcro" is a term they've always used to describe each other & glorify the fact that they're always together.. (in the past). Then Tamar realized it isn't the best thing, in which she tried to explain to Vince. Velcro doesn't mean you don't love them, just that you need time to miss them.

[@mrs.cookielyonlyon8916]

Val Riley sometimes your significant other can be smothering. And you're not saying that you don't love them when you say you need some space, for this is the exact reason why you're not supposed to make no man or no woman your whole world you have to have an outlet, because if you don't, you will get on each other's nerves😩.

[@-Epiphany]

Mrs.CookieLyon lyon try telling that to my boyfriend... I love him but it's so irritating to be with someone ALL the gahdamn time... I feel like I can't breathe...

[@terrelrodgers2321]

Mrs.CookieLyon lyon yu

[@debrajames6316]

Shellene I doubt you boyfriend follows you. Mine does. My x husband would follow me to the store. pathetic men do that.

[@a.j.shorter9081]

Tamar’s complaints about Vince’s management sounds a lot like Toni’s complaints. Toni decided to drop him as a manager, and Tamar almost scolded Toni for having expectations of her manager (Vince) that were unrealistic. Now, Tamar has the same complaints!!

[@YPM498]

Tamar seems done with the relationship.When Vince left the table she didn't even care to go follow him .

[@ThatssoRavenDeNai]

ypm 123 she would gotten her ass beating by him that why she stayed with her friends

[@baybeetricia]

ypm 123 I would not either. He was completely missing the point and acting like a bitch! He can go somewhere..

[@labelleniah524]

I wouldn't either cause he's mean.

[@stacyr4768]

ypm 123 always got the feeling she cheated on him.

[@CB-123]

Wow Tamar run 🏃🏾‍♀️... my ex used to tell me he wouldn’t compliment me coz I’ll get a big head.. he never said I looked good or I was beautiful..he would only criticise ...it’s emotional abuse

[@brandon_4thave822]

If a man has no respect for you not just when your alone but also in front of your own freinds &/or family then you need to get out.

[@cutiepie8030]

Your analysis is spot on! You're well spoken, fair, and wise.

[@RenieNostalgic]

I was waiting for some comedic relief the whole time. It never came. So uncomfortable to watch! Tamar isn't always innocent but Vince is a miserable so and so. I wonder if he deliberately tried to sabotage her career, out of spite. He's made too many sloppy mistakes with her shows etc.

[@Aliasss]

Agreed!

[@baybeetricia]

I think he might be the reason why she got fired from The Real cause, to this day, she still don't know why it happened and he's not to concerned...

[@prettydall]

She wanted to use Vince to advance her career and when that didn't happen she wanted to leave him now people pointing the finger at him when she is the harlotte. Vince does not need her she needed him. Fuck her now.

[@Aliasss]

Wet Back - Songwriting, getting deals, singing on movie soundtracks, singing background on albums, acting & touring for acting.. Tamar BEEN doing all that shit before a Vince. What "didn't happen" ? She's a 4 time Grammy & Emmy nominated artist with hit songs under her belt. If she wanted to "use" him to elevate her career, she would've done it when she met him & wouldn't need to marry him to do it. Braxtons ALWAYS had connects!

[@prettydall]

Talisha C So why is she mad that he couldn't or didn't advance her career?

[@PrincessOTFH]

Now I see why she's divorcing him. Her family also is alledging that he's been physically abusing her too. In the episode, you forgot to mention in one of her speaking cutaways, she said "Dont put your hands on me."

[@KeenanCooks]

I thought I was the only who peeped that!!!! like she said it as CLEAR AS DAY

[@lakeithaclingmon2869]

I miss that

[@berthauirasmatengu8681]

.

[@nette3800]

I saw it as her talking talking about sexual touching as that was the context

[@starseedlove3768]

I peeped that too!!!

[@purposedpatience6597]

He sounds more like her handler than her husband. Hmmmm 🤔 GET OUT TAMAR!!

[@ibrahimatenda9795]

Am I the only one who could listen to Empressive’s voice for HOURS ??? Lol

[@labelleniah524]

he doesn't respect her at all ,he treat her like she's a nobody.

[@Beats4DaStreets]

😩 Lord, the tea kettle is whistling!

[@omggettherats1813]

mrowzer lmfao 😳🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀🤣🤣🤣

[@aceatkins191]

😭lol

[@Mytime153]

mrowzer Lmao the stove is rocking. Kettle dun fell off the stove

[@lesliet.3707]

Vince is trying to sabotage Tamar.

[@1sava]

I was shocked too! I never knew Vince was as emotionally manipulative and abusive as he exposed himself to be in this episode! He always gaslights Tamar and diminishes any concerns she has while always portraying her as crazy. Tamar is no angel, but Vince's true colors are really showing this season. Even when Tamar is calm, he says really mean things to her. The comment about her head getting too big because she sold out a venue was uncalled for and abusive. Why would you not your wife to know that she is commercially successful? Her only mistake was to discuss their issues in front of their friends and also that she brought them on what was supposed to be a family vacation. But after watching this episode, I understand why Tamar did that. Vince is very distant emotionally and he isolates Tamar emotionally by constant dismissing how she feels. He literally shuts off and it feels like talking to a wall, which leaves Tamar no other choice than opening up her friends, because they are the only outlet she has to express her feelings. I'm glad she filed for divorce, they're not good for each other anymore!

[@Aliasss]

I wholeheartedly agree lack of communication is the biggest crack in their relationship! There was a scene when they finally sat outside, talked and actually *LISTENED* to each other to try & hash things out.. it was so refreshing to see! Communication is vital in every relationship (family, friends, lovers) 🔑

[@hibitch6751]

The way he was looking at her was scary he looked like he wanted to whoop her butt I feel so bad for her

[@ThatssoRavenDeNai]

Hi Bitch he does

[@Thickumz2002]

I agree! I don’t think they’re faking it now. Hell, they were most likely faking it all those other seasons pretending to be happy. PRETENDING that Vince was the calm reasonable one and Tamar was ALWAYS the problem. She has been protecting his image while making herself look crazy.

[@Thickumz2002]

Paige Johnson Well who are you talking to because we agree SILLY 🙄. Folks are so ready to argue online that they don’t know when someone agrees with them 😒. I LOVE Tamar and am definitely a REAL fan. But calm is one thing she is NOT, but I don’t think she is the only problem in this relationship. I think Vince has been a bigger problem than editing has shown and since he is an executive producer on both shows it explains why they will always try and show her in a bad light, but never show his true colors. I think Tamar is wonderful, transparent, and a beautiful person. But it’s about time that Vince is judge for who he REALLY is.

[@Thickumz2002]

Paige Johnson She definitely is. His true colors are really coming out finally.

[@queenmarie1232]

Paige Johnson this deserves more likes ❤️ us fans truly know what tamar is like

[@rhodamontgomery7450]

Tamar married Vince for money, she has no sex appleal. All of Vince, contract went under because of her. She is very immature. He should have never married. Vince I'm on your (SIDE)!!!

[@dee_scussions]

She is the one who insisted he work on her career. He wanted it separate. That was the issue the entire the first episode.

[@n.b.0212]

Why are those gay mens's (my in living color voice) always around? That's sign number one, when you can't stand to be alone with your spouse.

[@klmitchellbrown]

N B Agreed

[@HannahEstherRuth]

N B so they can beat him down when he puts his hands on her

[@staciacharles]

HannahEstherRuth same thing i said

[@GinaJonesStillettoQueen]

N B no. She said can we take a "friends and family " trip. Vince also said ok to it and said they were cool. He should've just said "no baby, we should just go as a family".

[@bblk778]

N B ... Yess tamar friends are a big problem they seem sneaky and want all the drama to be shown

[@lilnin2010]

Tamar isn't wrong for expressing how she feels.

[@justforfunhaha69]

It was so tough to watch! It seems like they don't care about each other right now.

[@LadyMusse]

Vince is dillutional so mean to Tamar. The communication between them is awful

[@Knya0602]

He clearly don't want to be with her. They should really get some counseling or just separate.

[@starseedlove3768]

She is telling him she is not the same chick anymore!!! Either he is going to except her growth or they will part ways.

[@laurenleedesigns]

Like what old people say, "when its right, it won't be hard". When u see too people meant to be together, the energy is fluid between them, even when they disagree the love and respect is still there.

[@rhodamontgomery7450]

Not hardly

[@LarryBanks85]

I see why Tamar is divorcing her husband because he is a bully and he is trying to steal her happiness. Tamar here are words of advice GET RID OF HIM AND RUN!

[@Rio_Monique]

If I was one of the friends, I would’ve EXCUSED MYSELF from the table. I like tea ☕️ like the next person but this would’ve been too much lol. Vince has attachment issues. I think it comes from his family situation.

[@Aliasss]

Tamar *NEVER* got dropped from her Epic Records label, she said on The Breakfast Club Vince thought it was better to WALK AWAY from the label because they do everything on their own anyway. THATS the problem with him leaving her in the dark about her career. Vince and the label has to AGREE on a date (with tamar) in which they did initially. When they changed it they didn't tell her. Of course you can't control when others change their release date, however they're still in the wrong for not involving her. He would NEVER do that to any of his other artists.

[@Zionsdawta]

They need to leave each other alone for a bit its too heated right now

[@queennfeliciamakeup6531]

I think it was the best decision she made because at the end she loves him and she just see there relationship not going anywhere Vince is being mean now and he needs to understand he got a good women Tamar just wants him as a husband not her husband / manger 💁🏻

[@humbled92_Mister]

I feel like Vince wants a Velcro relationship to fill that void of not having living parents. He wants that emotional security and stability however at the same time he wants a submissive wife too that will not defy him. I get the vibe that he wants HIS way....no ifs and or buts....

[@sweetythevenin4385]

I don't think that they are faking it for the camera it's obvious that they are having Hugh marital problems

[@Locqueen-tp9ip]

Sweety Thevenin yup! The tension is so raw and real.

[@iamescential9145]

Sweety Thevenin huge not hugh

[@sweetythevenin4385]

Jodhi Givhan is this what concerns you Hugh vs huge smh stop this grammar policing.

[@Indi9oMoorMARs]

Thank you for your video. To those saying Tamar was wrong for bringing her friends: Yet, Vince did not -- (I REPEAT) DID NOT -- tell Tamar that he wasn't down for the friends to tag along. Tamar asked him, quote "What do you think about going on a ((FRIENDS AND FAMILY TRIP))?" unquote. He just sat there, hand on his head, nodding his head, staring off into space. Vince is very narcistic and manipulative. She can't vent to him, because he shuts her down, and makes everything her fault. So, yes, she did ask in an open setting. He is showing all the signs of a man with a side chick. As far as the business part, he isn't any good in that area either. He sabotage her set, by not instructing ppl to bring the dancers out. He doesn't let her ask questions about what's going on with sales, ratings, etc etc.

[@JJ-kf6hi]

I thought tamar should have divorce vince before she had a child with him.

[@glentaylor864]

He is not only extremely verbally abusive,he's super physically abusive,dont want her to be proud of herself after so much overwork,stress,talent,beauty.HE IS MAD WITH ENVY,EVILNESS,NEEDS A DIVORCE BAD,BAB.BAD.Tamar is venting her feelings to get solutions,evry thing she says anoys him and he tries to humiliate her as he is achieving nothing,only pretending to work,not informing her of extremely imp.,issues in her job.He's very selfish,thinks only of himself,calls her a dog,bad mother.Its highly possible she did not know people change their album dates,he could have simply explained before she asked as she will not know his job.He has no feelings for her,no respect.Tamar is still like a child,innocent and he's taking endless advantage of her,blaming evry thing on her mouth as fam,people say so,but he is mostly wrong.He likes too much confusion,wickedness.

[@Princessfrmalmighty]

It’s both of them it takes two to fight

[@jennychatman889]

Princessfrmalmighty preach

[@Heartspoken7]

Princessfrmalmighty totally agree with u. I see people taking sides as if a boxing match. It really takes two.

[@RottedDollface]

Princessfrmalmighty very true and very simple. 👍🌹

[@CopperHueCollectionsChippewa]

Princessfrmalmighty right, it’s also funny how people have turned on Vince when what has been aired in the past Tamar showed to have been the aggressive one even with her family.

[@Princessfrmalmighty]

Kim Howell exactly

[@bblk778]

Nah nah they arguments ate real.. TAMAR WANTS PPL TO SEE THAT YESS SHE TOO EMTIONAL BUT VINCE HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM AS WELL..... SHE KNOWS NO ONE BELIEVES THAT HE'S REALLY ABUSIVE. THAT'S WHY SHE SAID EXPOSE HIM

[@Tarotqueen92]

You don’t have that conversation in front of others. This is messy

[@queenmarie1232]

Dream&Live true but honestly with the abuse allegations this is just more proof! abused women don’t wanna have these discussions alone.

[@MarquesTheProducer]

Maybe she was scared of what he’d do to her in general.

[@duediligence5844]

He enjoys seeing her upset...

[@KeepinitRealLiz]

I don’t really watch their show because it is unnecessary . They should keep everything private. I think they are doing this for publicity. She should change manager.

[@coachwhite2665]

She's a disrespectful wife period.

[@a.s.ia.h]

And he a disrespectful Husband period.

[@Omisade-kr7re]

Having your husband as your manager is not a good idea, ever. This doesn’t appear to be a relationship at all and it seems like it never was. I hope they get both get therapy .

[@deborahfadoju4432]

Marriage n business don't Mixx. Knowing how I am I'll never work or make my hubby my manager bcuz u best believe whatever we fight about at work I'll bring it home

[@L0u15eM1che11e]

Why does everyone say she shouldn't say anything about their relationship in front of friends when they're on a reality tv show based on their relationship, at least the friends actually know them lol instead of us strangers who watch for entertainment commenting or making videos about it. This is what happens when you share your life on tv for a cheque.

[@slimmama84]

He done lost that weight,& lost his mind!!!

[@gayle2020]

TWO BRATS TOGETHER NEVER WORK!!!

[@EHCBunny4real]

Tamar's sisters called Vince," Velcro," and told her to stop bringing him on family vacations.

[@ebby528]

Stop putting all the blame on Vince.... Tamar is NOT a saint...

[@yourstruly256]

Ebby L she is no saint at all

[@koyybalk4251]

Ebby L you’re completely right but, now people are seeing Vince for who he is

[@leinyjae6880]

Ebby L thank u.

[@charissew4798]

Ebby L Vince needs to move on. it seems like since he separated he's getting a lot of opportunities. they need to be fair to their son

[@present3346]

Agreed! I think they fight each other.. she said on this episode "he scared I'm gon jump on him"

[@MariaAngie]

Vince is annoying and he thinks it's ok to be like that cause in the beginning of their Relationship everyone bad mouth Tamar saying " how he gonna let his wife talk to him like that " so in the beginning it looked like Vince was the puppet the Victim and now the shoe is on the other foot. I don't know their Relationship was not brought out in the Right Light.

[@flighter7713]

WE ALL KNOW TAMAR WAS NOT BEING RUDE AT THAT TABLE. IF SHE WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM THAT ALONE HE WOULD HAVE HIT HER.

[@937dboy]

vince is acting like he pimping her.. i don't like it! and no, tamar has to make sure her album dont drop with major artist. that could hurt her sales.

[@TaheerahakaTT]

937dboy yet when her album dropped same time as Traci's she said they can't control the timing. Can't have it both ways.

[@isaiahjefferson2083]

Seems like she just tired and fed up

[@jrainey4002]

I think Tamar’s Discussion at dinner was very disrespectful. She basically dissed their relationship in front of everyone. It also want cool that she brought her friends on a trip that could’ve been s fun family getaway. I know there’s tension but that only made it thicker.

[@baybeetricia]

Jamaal Rainey if he didn't want her to bring her friends he could have told her that when she asked his permission for the trip but he said nothing and allowed them to come. So that, in all actuality, is his fault for not speaking up. And, as for that dinner conversation, she wasn't disrespectful. If anything he missed the whole point because he wasn't listening and he got in his feelings. All she wanted them to do is grow as a married couple together. Not just one of them grow and the other stay stagnant. And that velcro comment was justifed because NO COUPLE should be together 24/7. It's not healthy. Their situation is different either way because he is so intermingled into her personal and professional life but they needed a separation of the careers and that is all she was saying. Nothing more. He was the one talking about she wanted their love to change and thinking she wants a divorce when that was the farthest from her mind

[@camilles.9694]

You made an error. Vince wasn't the one who told her she had an interview. She was in her dressing room and was told by someone else. She had to call Vince after she got that piece of news to ask him what was she to do when she has interviewers waiting and she has a show in half an hour.

[@Onur0547]

I think tamar brought her friends for some security since she is being abused by vince

[@jackipalmer5680]

Onur Bb Absolutely! I know the signs because I was in an extremely abusive relationship and he has all the red flags waving in the air!! RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN TAMAR, while you're still breathing and able to walk!!!!! Vince is a piece of 💩💩💩💩 and this is for you too 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😏😏😏😏😱😱😱😱😱😱😱🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔!!!

[@ladypringles1]

I think tamar is the way she is because she needs to defend herself from vince it takes two to start a fight tho

[@itsmeeric13]

niita1 period

[@miss.teetee1166]

I have never really been a Tamar fan but the reason behind her behavior is starting to make sense. I think that Tamar brings her friends around for protection from Vince. They have a very emotionally and physically abusive relationship. I know more is going to come out about Vince’s behavior towards her.

[@Morgan-go3oz]

I swear I cant watch this show. Not that I dont support them but I dont wanna watch a train wreak. Its just too real for me. I pray that they can co parent for the sake of the baby

[@klmitchellbrown]

She was terrible. I don’t think her friends are funny and I think she is an instigator. Remember she begged him to help her career. Be careful what you ask for....

[@jennychatman889]

Knicole X facts!!!!👑👑👑👑👑

[@Aliasss]

onmybest behavior - "telling her every single detail would deter her.." WRONG. He's the manager, she's the artist. He's working for HER. You think he would leave Lady Gaga in the dark about what's going on in her career? It doesn't & shouldn't work like that.

[@Aliasss]

He took on the managerial position at his own discretion. If he felt it's something he no longer wanted to do, he should've expressed that instead of bullshitting. They BOTH needed to communicate that to each other. & that's their big problem. It's not alll Tamar.

[@Jennymule1]

Talisha C Exactly!

[@kerrychalumeau2079]

Exactly

[@Lyricgrayce]

I looooooove your channel!!

[@neesha7665]

Tamar knows how Vince is/was. She knows his issues stemming from his parents deaths. These issues and being velcroed weren't problems when she tried to get her career popping! It wasn't a problem, when she was throwing her "great" relationship in her sisters' faces. Being that she has her own insecurities, she taught she had a ugly dude with low self-esteem that would anything for her (remember last season of BFV). Now...Vince always appeared passive aggressive in their relationship. In past seasons, Vince always did little sneaky ish, to mess with Tamar's career. Then when Tamar calls him out he's gets pissed. Now Vince dropped that weight he acting up and out a little more. It's not benefitting Tamar at all. At the end of the day Tamar is lethal with her mouth, but is sensitive af! Vince is a passive aggressive manipulator. These two have always had awkward fights in front of their friends. This episode showed how they really get down.

[@laetitiannyoung6545]

BTW: y’all forgot the episode “crazy for Cabo “? Vince CHARGED at Tamar and Lashawn Daniels had to stop Vince from doing something to her !

[@wonitachristinenetwork3309]

imagine he got her fired from the real ????

[@rodericktrinity4708]

Wonita Christine Network he did

[@rodericktrinity4708]

he was fired first and then refused to let the producers speak to tamar so they fired her.

[@Ari-oz6np]

rj halliwell Why was Vince fired in the first place?

[@charissew4798]

Wonita Christine Network I believe he got her fired from the real

[@yvonnecash2166]

This was a very good analogy on what the Herbert-Braxtons have going on in their complicated business/marriage/divorce. I wholeheartedly agree that COMMUNICATION is one of the worst problems the two of them have (had) at this point. I, like many others, originally thought that the divorce was all a publicity stunt... before seeing these episodes. On the one hand I feel as though this whole season from Tamar's standpoint was a "ploy" to expose Vince. And while Vince certainly has a lot to be exposed--adult temper tantrums, being verbally abusive of his spouse, and being a lousy husband-ger, as Tamar so elegantly put it, but Tamar has her own faults as well. Notwithstanding the fact that it now COULD appear to SOME (self included) that she used Vince to get what she wanted (a leg up in the music industry) and now that she has excelled in that she no longer needs him, but this season Tamar appears to really be "coming for" Vince and throwing "shade" all over the place. She is exposing him for all of his faults, and putting him in a place where people can see that it is not all her. And I can say it's working... at least with me anyway. There was a time when I couldn't stand #Tamar and her big mouth and bratty over-the-top attitude. But now... I can actually relate... and in a sense, UNDERSTAND her pain. It also appears Tamar's friends are smack dab in the middle of it. Their "friends" know waaay too much about Tamar and Vince's personal business and Tamar will bring up ANYthing in front of them. That's a PROBLEM. I think if each of them, Vince and Tamar, would get out of their own heads and hear what each other's concerns are, they might have (had) half a chance of saving their marriage. Also Tamar is at that age/stage in her life that many women go through... when they just become allergic to bull crap. The more crap you throw at them, the more vocal/petty they become... and eventually they just want out. This new #Tamar... I'm still on the fence about her... but I think I like her better. She appears more human... more #REAL. I guess we will see what the future holds for her.

[@shanah2240]

Did you catch in the dressing room scene Vince tried to shut that door and Tamar said no do what you gotta do on camera? Vince was about to go smooth off on her but when he couldn't do it behind closed doors he left and cussed out the camera man. He has been talking to her crazy since season 1. Nothin new. Just go back and watch. Tamar is a big personality but Vince is a big asshole.

[@gabbinb33]

Shana H I agree with you 100%! A lot of people were shocked when they heard about the divorce and the abuse, I saw it coming a mile away. I've always said that Tamar on BFV and T&V is totally different. Now I see why.

[@artisticexpressions8500]

What season an episode it's on?

[@shanah2240]

Kelisha Pope kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIXQlHubj7B9sNk

[@Cat_cuteness82]

They never seemed compatible and still don't

[@lesliet.3707]

They are in an abusive relationship. Tamar being human needs to express herself- therefore she opt to use a safer environment to express herself. Vince is very controlling and he can no longer hide it when they are in the presence of others.

[@quaytashon]

Imagine... if this is how he talks to her I front of company... imagine what goes on behind closed doors

[@MalikRashod]

One thing, maybe I need to do my research, however I thought Tamar stated that Vince took her from the label and started their own label, not that she was actually dropped by the label but that Vince simply made the ultimate decision to take away from Epic Records. I think she stated that she did not want to leave the label, but Vince made the decision on his own without her consent.

[@angelmarie7862]

I was watching it this morning and I agree !

[@MiMiOrt]

And I also believe he was the reason y Tamar isn't on THE REAL. He as her manager nd some kind of producer on the show.

[@Litteratuer_Dee]

Coming back to this knowing what’s happening now, I hope people can see that Vince wasn’t the only one to blame.

[@vanessawood7214]

I really like Tamar and I truly believe that underneath the sometimes over the top behavior is a really sweet person!! I'm not a person who always sides with the woman because I'm a woman, but I do believe Vince carries more of the blame because he's okay with the verbal abuse and he seems to have very little respect for her as a woman, his wife and his client. Respect is everything!! When you're in a relationship with someone who doesn't respect you - that relationship will fail.

[@yaniquethompsonbobbs]

Tamar is horrible, she's unable to even fake being happy about his weight loss...constantly calling him "skinny vince" and "diva" That's your man not your gay bestfriend.

[@kaisofine]

Yeah I can't watch their show...it's too much. And I noticed problems between them a long time ago.

[@REOROWE]

He doesn't want her to shine. He's insecure. He probably secretly got her fired from the Real. I'm glad everyone is seeing his true colors

[@faizaabdi4916]

No offence but sometimes Tamar, just over does everything. It could be annoying sometimes. So I could kind of understand why he gets mad.

[@klmitchellbrown]

Faiza Abdi I agree

[@jennychatman889]

Faiza Abdi yes indeed.

[@Heartspoken7]

Faiza Abdi then they should divorce instead of diminishing each other and then making bigger fools of themselves by filming it all on this show. Two wrongs dont make a right....no excuse to treat someone like this. They both wrong.

[@Heartspoken7]

That poor kid will see all this later on in life. Digusting!

[@dee27206]

She’s super Extra. But I still love her.

[@sylviawalker7701]

you are right. Vince is treating her bad. Tamar too weak to leave him. We are gonna pray for her

[@queenmarie1232]

Sylvia Walker look at her now 👀 🍵

[@MiMiOrt]

Ooohhh That's the episode where Vince gave her "" THE LOOK"" The Ike Turner look . The "look" where u know that he was going 2 beat the shit out of her after every1 was gone. . .

[@asiahdingle5824]

I know I'm late but I have to say from the moment they started being on reality tv I didn't think they would stay together. She seems out going and larger than life he seems like a wet blanket. Their dynamic has always seemed very weird

[@DominiqueForever]

Vince is tired of her and her drama smh . That is embarrassing to sit there and talk about that in front of people .

[@jimmine1]

Dominique Forever I find it ironic that people are saying they shouldn’t discuss their relationship in front of people while they are on national television show🤨. In front of friends or not, the relationship will be broadcasted. Vince is just as much of a drama queen! And for a man, that is never a good look. And we are definitely seeing that drama queen side of him this season.

[@eddierogers3609]

Dominique Forever right

[@reneewhite7875]

It was exhausting to watch...smh🤦🏾‍♀️

[@lilred013179]

That ain’t the first time where he disrespectful to her on the show..and I understand Tamar and she don’t wanna be around him so much,and when she tries to talk to him about her career he gets upset cause she wanna new manager cause that shit ain’t working and she’s not wrong..every thing u saying is so true

[@britbritnicole]

The tension is bad and they look so unhappy

[@lati6okan]

Well, it looks like Tamar doesn't want to be alone and they will be in this toxic relationship for awhile. Blessings!

[@rishatariwalker7340]

He's been putting his hand's on her!!! Been there!!! Clear to 👀. This setting is the only chance she had to say what she need to say in a safe place

[@AMYP6]

Waiittttttt!!!!!!!! Wasn't she begging Vince to manage her career?! VELCRO?? Your fault Tamar.

[@klmitchellbrown]

AMYP6 Agreed

[@queenmarie1232]

she didn’t think he was a shitty manager at the time! so, how is it her fault now?

[@divestednoir86]

Jenae McQueen That is why Toni fired him

[@RedaGirl55]

Vince says nice-nasty 💩 & hopes she catches the shade, only for her to go off & be looking crazy. He pokes at her, as he knows what buttons to push to make her pop off & it's f'kn ridiculous. He's such a damn narcissist & how tf are you her manager & you really aren't doing manager 💩??! Ppl thought it was MAINLY her fault, hell no, he's an extreme narcissist... PERIOD!!

[@jeweledonyxtv]

Excellent assessment of their marital probs! Many men marry younger women as they're easily impressed and easier to control than adult women. Lots of couple can successfully combine work & marriage. It's not something I was ever able to do. Velcro can be very scratchy!

[@tinawilliams919]

Good evening first of all I don't Agree with Miss Tamar being Overly Emotional. However the fact that Mr Vince opens up the question at the table about looking for love ??? Really that's not something I consider casual conversation Especially when your not going through a loving relationship your self Hello Your on marriage ,remember Miss Tamar knows Mr Vince pretty well so that's why she took the time to express herself about what she expressed!!! See sometimes people like to start the fire however when you add more the flames the other person acts like there the victim !!! However I do agree that Vince has a horrible way in interacting with Ms Tamar ,yes she has her in expressing herself that can be a little too much Vince has been like this before Him being sued!! By Sony So noo excuse .He likes to do things to ruffle her feathers and when she wings back then he pout like a Biggg Baby They both need prayer and counseling.

[@KM7661]

They both have problems, they need help God's Help

[@astrogoddess9433]

It seems like they were separated on the show or they just didn't share rooms...idk.... bc when Vince came down the next morning....Tamar asked Vince something like 'why did you leave'? I would think if they had slept in the same room....she would have asked him this already....?!?!

[@taerokee4857]

Vince whoops her ass. That’s why she has had enough of him.

[@angeleye1998]

I only saw the 1st episode of this season's T&V, but it sounds like it's getting real .

[@deshardemcguffie3422]

I still can't believe what is going on with Tamar and Vince I'm still in shock like a year ago they were both happy and now it's divorce and every thing else 😥😥😥😥

[@justbeingveetv3423]

*Im so sick of seeing Vince walk around with SAGGY ass pants!!😒*

[@DonnieMajestic]

vince sounds like ALL the other men Tamar talks about that she's been with , he doesnt want to see her shine, he's abusive.... UNETHICAL and she deserves better.

[@Doctordiva51]

First you ask why Vince was making small talk at the table, then you say you shouldn’t talk about your problems in front of ppl bc it makes things awkward. Tamar brought the people and discussed her marriage in front of them. If she wanted to really work on her marriage, why have those ppl around? There are cameras there so stop with the excuse of wanting ppl to see. Millions can see along with the camera crew if Tamar came out with a black eye or if Vince was verbally abusive.