How Hard is India's Toughest Engineering Exam? (JEE)

[@Nobody98456]

Long story short: step 1 Get a degree at MIT. step 2 Try to pass the JEE.

[@TamerShaheen]

😂😂

[@kushagra9781]

Any exam requires a dedicated preparation, students in MIT are not preparing for it , so your comment makes no sense, ask JEE students themselves to solve jee after passing from iit or nit , then see how many passes it , you will get your answer.

[@Jk88_23DruT]

They would pass maths and physics, chemistry is fuckin difficult to pass after graduating

[@anonymous-qq8ro]

Total number of attempts tat can be made in JEE MAINS is six times and the attempts will be counted once u pass out 12 and in India JEE MAINS examination is conducted twice every year.........Likewise for JEE ADVANCE only 2 attempts can be made and those attempts will be counted after u pass out 12 whether u seat for the examination or not.......And to get a degree at MIT it takes 4 yrs [correct me if i m wrong] which means by the time u get a degree at MIT u wont be eligible to seat for the exam.......And like @kushagra9781 said ur comment doesnt make sense at all......

[@Batman_akzo]

Bullshit. I've constantly made this point that MIT graduates are far more successful than IIT graduates.

[@criza_yogesh]

JEE is not a selection exam bro, it's a rejection process.

[@sahridkancherla518]

Considering how many people give the JEE exams, having strict and legit EVIL marking is necessary, simply because of the number of students who take the exam. It's meant to eliminate people, and only have the very best remaining.

[@tryzmotrippin5481]

So why does this reservation thingy exist?????? Aren't we studying the same thing? Aren't we attending the same coaching?

[@ruhaanchopra8878]

@@tryzmotrippin5481 Its to help the underprivileged bro.

[@tryzmotrippin5481]

@@ruhaanchopra8878 so bro till when will this reservation system last? If it's help then what did we general class did to deserve this?

[@prathatiwar3696]

@@tryzmotrippin5481 very true...

[@manishbiswas226]

@@tryzmotrippin5481 do one thing marry a SC or ST girl from ur coaching, simple af.

[@priyanshuuttam639]

I am currently a first year student in Civil engeneering department at IIT Delhi , one thing is that the concept asked in exam are framed in such a manner that in first year proff don't waste much time on such concepts and can move to more advanced version of them as quickly as possible

[@TamerShaheen]

Ahh I see makes sense, thanks for sharing

[@priyanshuuttam639]

@Sahal Apuia yes

[@manishbiswas226]

@Sahal Apuia yes , first semister is same for all.

[@priyanshuuttam639]

@Sahal Apuia not really to CSE( I am not interested in cse) but if my cg will be better then I will definitely think to upgrade it to mechanical engineering

[@priyanshuuttam639]

@@manishbiswas226 first year is same for all

[@djezio258]

In my country Mozambique, they evaluate fundamental Maths, Physics and Chemistry for entrance exams to the toughest universities. But this indian exams... It's like studying actual Calculus before even starting Engineering course. Insane!!!

[@forgot10god69]

Around 35% to 40% of the JEE Advanced exam paper comprises Calculus.

[@aasiqkumar732]

Try solving any year paper question. I am sure u will see jesus

[@ClarkKent-bz9tf]

@@aasiqkumar732 give your top iit students putnam exam they will see lord ganesha

[@parallisedgamer9446]

@@ClarkKent-bz9tf indian students may but i doubt iit toppers would be scared of any exam

[@ClarkKent-bz9tf]

@@parallisedgamer9446 bhai decent scorers putnum exam are usually imo medalists aur shyd hi 15-20 saalo mai koi jee ka topper imo training camp tak bhi pahucha hoga and fyi putnum is purely mathematics exam aur jee toppers are known for pcm not just m and jee advanced maths really isnt shit in front of putnum

[@TheTechSupport]

Marks are not distributed according to chapters, Also Total Number of Questions and Marks are not pre specified. You got to know about all the details when you sit for the exam.

[@kesavmanoj7963]

Its an estimate from data taken from past papers

[@tryingtobeablackbody6342]

@@kesavmanoj7963 yeah bro,jee's total marks vary from 360-504 or more

[@adityasrivastava6314]

I'm a jee aspirant in 12th grade and when you were flipping through your physics mid sem paper I knew what the question was without reading it and just by looking a diagram and knew how to solve it, that makes me happy and sad at the same time

[@Shivammishra98643]

Ok in that case try solving david morins introduction to CM. We do that in first year.

[@rudranilchowdhury7563]

@@Shivammishra98643 he was talking about the exam questions, not what students do in first year, although JEE students more often than not solve General problems in physics by IE Irodov, i dont know if that comparison gives you an idea.

[@adwaitsalve6531]

Ho gya kya selection jee advanced mai?

[@juliuscaesar564]

​@@Shivammishra98643 I did it in 11th lol, tough book but if you grind you can do it lol

[@UjjwalTiwari-xd8bx]

Bhaiya please give me some tips

[@Seriouslyfunny1]

In IITs, our first semester mechanics course started with tensors. Vector algebra, basic calculus etc wasn't even talked about. Prof came, wrote "Tensors and Invariance" and said we're supposed to know scalars and vectors, it's school thing.

[@chiragsharma5050]

He is not in mood of teaching profs are cold blooded in iit

[@Sakkuisop315]

scalars and vectors the defination basic thing is taught in 9th ig was taught to me

[@PieVio]

He's not wrong though

[@NavdeepSingh-ws7mx]

In india most of the students consider chemistry as best subject to score high marks in jee (mains/adv) Maths on other hand is considered as tough in jee(adv)

[@vaishnavisingh9244]

I am sorta on the opposite end of the spectrum. Physics mainly and half of Maths is the only thing keeping me from risking it all lol

[@NavdeepSingh-ws7mx]

@@vaishnavisingh9244 well thats okay I just meant that in a general perspective

[@adityaparthasarathy673]

I am pretty opposite, i hate chemistry and can't ever get good marks in it, physics and maths are easier for me and i can easily score in those subjects

[@aditsud5354]

I hate chemistry, I can bear with physics. Maths is the only think keeping me sane.

[@priyadarshinisaikia1395]

@@adityaparthasarathy673 thats so me i hate chem. The only thing that keeps me going are Physics and Maths.

[@Actimelv]

I thought that it was normal to have negative marks for wrong answers on multiple choice questions. Here in Belgium it's pretty common (almost the standard). Wow

[@adnanbatman5034]

Since 2020 nearly all universities in Belgium are removing negative marks. Now they all do high censorship. You need a 6,5/10 to get 50% of the marks

[@TamerShaheen]

Wow I can’t imagine doing that 😅

[@heltonrolobcv2181]

Same I'm from Portugal and the stuff he learned on the first year of engineering we learned in high school

[@MrAhtisham420]

@@adnanbatman5034 i feel like this is worse tbh. ive had this last year.

[@yuimilungleng]

True man thought it was norm

[@hasanmustafa4887]

Someone from an IIT here, the mechanical engineering curriculum is the same as it is internationally so we have a lot of free time in our college to do other things we like!

[@RafiRafi-yo8vn]

So are you in USA now

[@hasanmustafa4887]

@@RafiRafi-yo8vn nope still at iit(which is in india)

[@lukealadeen7836]

@@hasanmustafa4887 I don't think he got the joke 🤣

[@juliuscaesar564]

​@Jasper Percabethtrue

[@arneshpal7702]

​@@hasanmustafa4887sure bro

[@ruthsharon20]

If you have a Nice and well teacher for all the PCM subjects, then you'll definitely fall in love with subjects. Most of the students have that privilege while many of them not. Your performance in exam is about whom you have as a mentor too.... All The Best for All JEE aspirants 2022 👍💪

[@snehadash7117]

So true 👍👍

[@TamerShaheen]

Yea that makes sense…teachers have a huge impact on us

[@tharshanthebeliver5209]

True bro

[@ruthsharon20]

@@TamerShaheen Definitely

[@ruthsharon20]

@@tharshanthebeliver5209 🙌🙌

[@axisepsilon514]

Honestly, I'm very grateful that I live in the states. Had my parents not moved, my life in Asia would have been brutal af. Ppl in the U.S or Canada should really be grateful.

[@electric_deer2007]

Oo where did your parent move from ?

[@raahimhadi4905]

Not necessarily, you would have adapted to your native country's system and done fine

[@electric_deer2007]

@@raahimhadi4905 at what cost ? Sleep , childhood, mental health, enjoying life ? Nah thanks he/she is better off in the states than in india

[@Akanshyagogoi.]

Yes! You are lucky!😭

[@mauriciorv228]

@@raahimhadi4905 says who? It’s not his country anymore. He’s in America

[@danieljuhasz34]

As a recent chemistry graduate from the University of Waterloo, the questions in the Chemistry Section of this JEE are things I can answer now... AFTER studying chemistry for the past 5 YEARS... there's no way I would have been able to accurately identify the concept(s) each of those questions was looking to address going into my University studies (let alone answer the questions correctly). I find it interesting that in India, high school students are required to know this level of knowledge going into Engineering, especially if you consider that after studying for this exam, they may never use half of their accumulated chemistry knowledge, depending on what kind of Engineering they want to pursue. Wild... NOTE: In my degree, I focused on Physical & Organic Chemistry, Chemical Synthesis, and Polymer Science (with some practical experience in Inorganic Synthesis and Transition Metal Chemistry); I am currently pursuing a Master's in Mechanical & Mechatronics Engineering focusing on Materials Engineering and Processing. I think it's fair to say that as a high school student, these questions would have been brutal...

[@hereforthememes.8466]

Brooo trust me I fucking hate out chemistry syllabus largely because of this. The questions you see here just show the broad range of the syllabus but you would also be surprised to know the amount of information and depth we get into in each of these topics. Like for oragnic we have like have to remember like 1000+ reactions or something in total across all the organic topics but only to end up answering 2 or 3 reaction based questions. We have to mug up tons of exceptions of the periodic table and their orders which is something I personally forget the day next to when i studied it. And all of this for pretty much never touching chemistry again.

[@nou4605]

And consider that most people want to take up Computer Science in college because of the high pay. CS barely uses these concepts.

[@franciumruel615]

Man chemistry was the easiest part of the entire paper for me. Maths on the other hand harassed me totally. This 2020 paper was the one that I gave. Chemistry and physics saved me.

[@hassanriyaznuralom1768]

That's why ceo of Google is from iit.

[@AdityaKumar-pz3ko]

The only reason it is difficult is because of our student population. India is the youngest country in the world with highest population growth rate. The exam is designed to fail a student because admission is on the basis of their all india rank. Another such country is China with their GaoKao exam is similar to the JEE. The exam already has engineering concepts which wholly defeats the purpose of going to college. Also, the general mind set in India is that engineering will give you a secure job makes millions of students take these exams therefore the government has to make tough exams otherwise they won't be able to rank the students. It is sad that students in India have to suffer along their best years in life. An education is supposed to be a learning experience not a rat race that supposedly defines the whole life of a person. But this is the sad truth Indian students suffer along the way whereas students in the west don't have to worry about doing science classes because they have minimum wage because of which even a truck driver can lead a happy life, whereas in India a truck driver barely gets through everyday in life. I believe if students get their freedom to choose their undergraduate education there will be less stress competition in the JEE examination and can make it less stressful because I have seen students literally mugging up answers to questions because they didn't understand the concept. MCQ's can't really show the true potential of a student but we have to succumb to it because of our student population to which there are no immediate solutions.

[@Thanos-hp1mw]

This is one of the easier papers I think. The difficulty of JEE papers made me never start my prep for JEE like every other 11th grader around me. I'll simply write CET and go to a nearby engineering school. Yes I'm Indian and not writing JEE

[@afreedfaizan4345]

Simple aim for RV or BMS if it's kcet

[@Thanos-hp1mw]

@@afreedfaizan4345 how did you know I'm from Karnataka?

[@afreedfaizan4345]

@@Thanos-hp1mw when you said cet I bet you were talking about kcet.

[@Thanos-hp1mw]

@@afreedfaizan4345 actually I wanted to got to BVB college, Hubli because it's the closest to my home. Bengluru will be expensive. I will only write KCET, under 5K rank will be enough for BVB and go there. I'm not too smart to go to top colleges anyway.

[@afreedfaizan4345]

@@Thanos-hp1mw don't think about expense point of view. Look at the placement offers and the ROI you will get in these colleges.

[@hoopsnow]

I love the point you made about why go to engineering school when the JEE has all of the applications that are taught in engineering school

[@aasiqkumar732]

I think u never studied in real engineering college

[@hridoyabdullah5133]

You just missed the most difficult aspect of this exams. ”The pressure of giving the exam in the exam hall”!! .It’s one thing to criticise the question while sitting in your room (I am not bashing you at all) and giving the exam .The level of pressure an ‘ASIAN’ student face while giving this kind of exam is unimaginable.This is well known by now that Asian parents pressurise their children thousands time more than a European/American parents.It doesn’t end here ,In Asian specialty in India,Bangladesh,Pakistan students just not get pressurised by their parents but by their whole family .Everybody in their family(Uncle,Aunts,their children) have high hopes for the student as a result the student has the burden of their hopes too.Again, after all the pressure you get from your relatives and family there is the pressure that you put on yourself.In europe and America their is a culture that ‘if you don’t go to college,it’s okay.You can be successful in other ways’ .But in Asia,the society has made it mandatory that everybody must attend college and not just any college,the best college and if any student fails to get into a prominent college ,the society sees him as a failure and thinks he can’t do anything in life . So ,Jee aspirants gives the exam while having all these thoughts and pressure in his mind and on top of all this things the questions are this hard . Now realise how hard it is !

[@nakularora9319]

True 😭

[@utkarshiitbhu4204]

Damn bro u ok?

[@Thefare1234]

The math section was tough but I have seen similar questions in calculus, linear algebra, and intro to real analysis. This type of exam is doable with a ton of practice. You just need to get comfortable with using certain techniques and formulas by doing many practice tests.

[@omgupta570]

Thats the thing man, you are fighting against 100k students those who have cleared mains then only they are allowed to give adv and those who aspire a good rank will definitely solve the doable ones.. Its the fight about who can solve the ugliset ones and ofcourse it will always boil down to practice no denying that but also it involves a lot of mental pressure, time pressure irritation, man a lot of things.... I am remembering my JEE Adv day 🤣

[@Thefare1234]

@@omgupta570 Those 3 hours must be hell. I can do the math problems but can't imagine finishing all those tricky ones under time pressure. How much time do people usually spend on the math section?

[@_its_omg]

@@Thefare1234 everyone have different strategies depending on there preparation and there strong subject I started with chem like most people I think I gave 35-40 mins to that section as my chem was strong and ques where also from organic to just a lot of thinking .... Then I went to solve physics as my physics was strong than maths about 1 hour or soo for that then went to maths idk after that what I did ... Just browsing looking solving and repeat lol

[@Anonymous-fs1od]

@@Thefare1234 *6 hours..6 fuckin hours ..Literaly , those 6 hours were the worst ones of my life ...

[@Pappu_Sutradhar]

Only Indian know how to slove it in 3 hours 😢😂

[@mahadevprasanth1697]

We Indians sure like to gloat about the difficulty of our entrance exams. But the fact is except for the top colleges which maybe 3-4% of the students get into, the quality of engineering education in India is very bad.( I implore you to compare the textbooks of fluid mechanics by Bansal and the one by Frank White. Most mechanical engineering programmes do not have a seperate course on dynamics, just the engineering mechanics course) The average engineering graduate from Canada or USA would run circles around an average indian graduate. Only the best succeed in Jee advanced, a better standard to gauge the level of most students are the CBSE physics exams for class 11 and 12. And coming to whether a highschool student would find the exams at university of waterloo easy, I'd say maybe the calculus part is doable as we do study single variable calculus and first order differential equations in highschool but certainly not any other subject. Even though we studysubjects like thermodynamics it is only the fundamentals and even the topper cannot solve questions on Rankine cycle or Control volume system because they are not in the syllabus. Same for engineering level fluid mechanics etc.

[@TheC130navigator]

My university splits the dynamics into two courses. Mechanics Dynamics and Fluid Dynamics. Is that what you were talking about? Just curious

[@sreenathps5546]

Thats depends on which University u were studying We do have courses on fluid mechanics and dynamics of machinarys

[@mahadevprasanth1697]

@@sreenathps5546 I wasn't talking about dynamics of machinery, we have that too. I was talking about engineering dynamics which is a first year course which we cover along with statics in a single course called engineering mechanics.

[@chidam333]

Atleast top 10-20% students study pretty rigorous engineering course !

[@kylewolfe_]

The Frank White fluid mechanics textbook isn't even that spectacular to begin with, so I'd hate to see what Bansal's is like.

[@angela_roy2440]

It's ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL.... I actually have got PTSD from my JEE experience....tho I have cleared all rounds and managed to get a place in my dream engineering college....I literally do not want to pursue engineering anymore, as I have started to hate and fearing maths and physics :( P.S: I am not writing this in order to discourage anyone from giving JEE....I am just sharing my experience.

[@takeuchi5760]

damn, kind of defeats the purpose, I gotta give jee this year, definitely not giving advanced, mains is way better, and the difference in the top colleges that use Mains rank and IITs only goes as far as the clout, and a few other minor differences, compare that with the hell you're supposed to go through for two years in highschool, I can't see why people give advanced in the first place.

[@sumiranmaiskar]

@@takeuchi5760 I mean tbh advanced is literally just a more advanced version of mains problem solving wise. The colleges are supposed to be great but also the exam itself has a different structure and nature, and if you master it it is just as doable as any other exam, with enough hardwork. Of course people should give it, it is the top tier of engineering entrance exams and you get filtered as the best candidates of all high school students. Don't give it if you want to, but I'd highly recommend it, even though my own experience with it was bittersweet. Peace :)

[@lime-limelight]

You have a weak heart 😂

[@adityaparthasarathy673]

I am gonna complete 12th next year, and oh boy i just hate studying physics and chemistry, other subjects are fun to study, so i would most prob end up studying bca instead of engineering, i am done with physics and chem

[@cardboard_hat]

@@lime-limelight r/iamverybadass

[@rambo3200]

You should check the paper 2 of this exam, which was a lot more difficult than paper 1 of 2020. As a matter of fact , the topper of that year scored 196 out of 198 in paper 1, while he scored only 156 out of 198 in paper 2

[@pranavreddy80]

Jee paper you reviewed is one of the easiest paper came till now 🤣

[@gaurav7582]

Review the paper of jee 2016 😂😂

[@studynep5772]

Exactly

[@gaurav7582]

@Ishaan Shekhar sorry glti se 2020 likh diya tha btw I am in 10th

[@gaurav7582]

@Ishaan Shekharyour class?

[@cardboard_hat]

@@gaurav7582 I too am in 10th

[@TUBEDOUT07]

You're inspiring to future engineering students. Making engineering relatable and demystifying is much needed!

[@piyushkushwaha1803]

Gave the same question paper in 2020 and believe me the second part of this exam literally brought tears into my eyes during the exam. PS: anyways landed into an IIT and I never ever want to go back to that phase of my life again.

[@bryanfuentes1452]

I read somewhere that there was one student who failed in Gaokao test in China but when that student transferred to US, she was able to get a PhD in Harvard.

[@karv9445]

You can't really compare a single physics midterm to the entire JEE. You get a few weeks to prepare for it, and you're studying 5 or so other courses alongside that physics class. The JEE is more equivalent to doing first years engineering exams back to back instead of a couple days apart. You get a year to study for both things, its just that in Canada you have more frequent testing which makes it easier. The marking, pacing, and length is what adds the difficulty, the concepts are fine.

[@TamerShaheen]

Ya I agree with what you’re saying. It’s not a fair comparison, but that’s all I had to compare to the JEE 😅

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

The biggest thing to consider is that you have to do each exam (JEE Main, Advanced Paper 1, Advanced Paper 2) within 3 hours, when you compared it your Physics Chemistry Mathematics university exams, all those combined together should be around 9 hours long (if the time limit for exams are the same as it is in India) but each paper of JEE is only 3 hours long.

[@shantanukumar7174]

The fact that it has to be compared to engineering college exams and still college exams seem easier.....proves the fact that you really have to be a genius to get into IITs.

[@bropro1553]

This exam was never mean to give admissions only rejections . I mean for a 17 year old that leaves a scar for life and takes years to come out of it . I hate this system

[@axisepsilon514]

Every math or physics video that I come across on KZbin, there are always one of these people in the comment section who brag about JEE advanced being tougher than (insert country)'s curriculum. Like dude, we get it and honestly I respect that but is advertising humble bragging really all that necessary? It sometimes feel like a dick measuring contest ngl Edit: omg this thread is one hell of a mess :(

[@connordrew2634]

yes, countries that try and flex about how hard their exams are do it because they have no other redeeming qualities, any indian student that can afford it comes to the west to study at the universities here. You would think the people that can solve such "tough" exams could figure out how to create a first world country or get their average IQ above 90

[@ayhamabusalem9113]

@@connordrew2634 Lol, the concept of "# world" is so cold war- Era.

[@joneandi37]

@@connordrew2634 well india would be first world if white people from england didnt steal 99% of the gold they have from india

[@connordrew2634]

@@ayhamabusalem9113 it's a useful concept

[@connordrew2634]

@@joneandi37 "well if this or that or the other thing happened" cope cope cope, doesn't matter. An entire subcontinent got conquered by people from an island the size of a shoebox, part of being a first world country is "not getting conquered by a country way smaller than you" lol. India wouldn't have running water if it wasn't for the British.

[@devangdixit7864]

In india there is a complete city KOTA,Rajasthan(Quite Famous) which is dedicated to study for this exam. Thera are a lot of coaching institues situated there and students come from all over to india for specially studying for this exam. They spent nearlly two complete years of their high school nearly 8-12 hours per day to get in 1% of this exam.

[@Mathew1290]

I wonder what will be his reaction once he sees the 2016 version which is the MOST HARDEST JEE EVER.

[@merp5903]

It wasn't

[@Mathew1290]

@@merp5903 it was bro

[@tomcat1184]

@@Mathew1290 I think 2020 was the hardest , physics was completely designed on olympiad pattern

[@nairb8693]

Here in Europe we laugh at how people exaggerate about JEE

[@Mathew1290]

@@nairb8693 Bro whatever concepts you Europeans learn at 2nd or 3rd year to university, we give exams on that on our admission test itself. If you really think JEE is exaggerated then please attempt the JEE mains paper and please try not to get negative marks.

[@rashid0mar]

And the worst part is students killing themselves after failing these exams thinking they're not good enough.

[@Shubham-gy1fh]

yes there are cases like these and the students get colleges by these exams there is no thing such as essays but these also make the student very competetive these don't eliminate people they just filter the smartest

[@laeroengr1693]

omg this is hard af. It is just more than what a high school student can take.

[@locus6595]

Due to intense crowd and less college,they have to increase toughness level of exams to eliminate people's.Thats why one goes upto studying upto 4-5 years before jee exam.Like they know 12th grade concept in 8-9 th grade.Although this isnt all at beneficial but it evolves them a lot.Being an iitian is like an celebrity in India,that's where they get motivation from.These determination will power at such young ages makes them successful later in life. Most of them who get in colleges know alrdy what they are being taught and have some ample of time.Some utilise this time to make their startups whereas there are some who get indulged in illegal activities.

[@lime-limelight]

Thats the problem is, IITians are very smart and hardworking but don't get the guidance they want in IIT. If you see video of IITians, they are most of the time in stuff like roaming, nightouts and trips. They learn coding in 4th year and get a decent package of 10-15 lpa

[@161BMW]

Are IIT students really treated like “celebrities” ? What would imperial college students or alumni be treated like since Imperial >> IIT ?

[@inculcatetobemaudlin2943]

This is a good video, thanks for your explanations.

[@fozanshaque6094]

Awesome, I agree, India has a tough education system! Good Luck to indian students

[@jayantsingh3078]

😂tough r u serious?

[@TheMartian11]

@@jayantsingh3078would you care to elaborate on what you are trying to imply?

[@juliuscaesar564]

@@iamstudying389 yeah 😂😂

[@KamiKomplex504]

I wish I could do this coming out of high school, it would save a lot of time. What people don't understand about the US schooling system is that, education before university is EXTREMELY unadvanced unless you are in the upper class paying for private schooling. When you get to Uni however, they expect you to learn these topics in days or weeks, but it is so much time wasted before getting to the real coursework. Upper division Uni work is extremely demanding however and you are studying with and under top professionals worldwide in the field. It is immeasurably more difficult than high school. In high school I did an entire year's worth of calc studying/exams in 3 days but in Uni I might spend 40-80hrs a week on coding projects. Also we have this ruleset of negative marks for competitive academics called UIL. It is a very good system that really moves the distributions of test takes apart.

[@L-hi7oq]

Believe it or not, It's definitely 6 outta 5 because, there are no calculator's allowed, the grading system, the age of student is merely 16 or 17, time limit, mental state around puberty and the syllabus includes about 200 chapter's along with sub-chapters as well as for every chapter there is a bulky book in all{ we call it coaching modules}.

[@tonywinter5860]

I came to Canada to do my masters in mechanical engineering. When I attended the very first lecture of maths, I was like is he professor? And how did he get his PhD degree and who allowed him to teach students? And that too master level? ....I was like I could have taught students way more easily and effectively than they way he taught us. And I am not even IITian. I cleared JEE main but not advance. By this video and comments, I am just imagining the level of toughness of JEE advance!

[@ayat5483]

That doesn't make any sense. You might be better than him.But it doesn't make you greater than your teacher. Obviously, IITians are good but every year how many of them get Noble prize or other scientific achievement. Clearing a Hard exam, doesn't make you creative or brilliant. China has similar exam,but they still copying and re-engineering western products. Most of the topics you have learned are not much necessary

[@faizfarooqi5108]

It’s actually a common occurrence, the professor could extremely brilliant on his subject of expertise, however they can’t teach for crap. Majority of them, have research as their main focus not really teaching, also it doesn’t help that they themselves already no the ideas and concept, and then it they get annoyed when the students don’t get it.

[@themuslimpolymath7395]

@@ayat5483 that copying part literally left me with a laughter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yugen6811]

i would love it if you make a video about Ecole Polytechnique's entrance exam, you'll see that it is a whole new level of complexity

[@TamerShaheen]

I’ll look into that

[@rogorix4991]

Ouais parceque les sujet en mode QCM ça va deux minutes x-ens c'est 10 fois plus dur, et encore.

[@TheExaltedHerobrine]

The reason why the exam is extremely difficult is because of negative marks.

[@boeingotaku3723]

You forget something which is Time its a 3hr exam and you have to complete this shit in that time period.

[@prakharrai4283]

And sometimes, when you find the answer to a difficult question.....then it asks you to put in an equation and find its roots or something.....and then finally give your answer in single digit integer.

[@adarshgangwar2285]

Also we have solve that shit before even getting in college.

[@aasiqkumar732]

Negative marks? 😂 try solving any year paper. U will know why

[@aditya3984]

Many of the question are much more difficult when actually try to solve them and get to the answer.Many times there is an expectation involved in chemistry,loop holes to fall in,Sometimes you need weird math tricks to solve equation efficiently in time and do approximations,understand properly what the question is asking you. And have 60+ chapters done and in your head.

[@_PranavDesai]

While you were skimming through the paper, my brain just automatically pulled a sheet of paper and tried to solve it. Like, wth, I'm already done with this exam.

[@shreesharda7508]

This is the problem of Indian Education System brother. We are stressed very much to study until we couldn't do it. I think there is no place for an average student in India. Students in India really have to suffer a lot...

[@studynep5772]

Just going through these questions makes you feel that they are doable but doing it in 3 hrs and in-question catchy concept makes it super super tough.

[@sanlangscumtruck00]

Exactly!!

[@kothekarswaraj]

funny thing here is even after finding those students who can solve these questions India is still behind in every aspect by huge margin which proves this is not right direction and the worst part is the college teachers who r supposed to teach this can't even solve these problems u must join coaching class for clearing this exam why would a computer or mechanical engineer ever need to study organic chemistry in such details and so on

[@Kevin-cy2dr]

Most IIT students leave India. Some even join IIT to work or study outside India.

[@iemaj]

exactly

[@Xyzoski]

It's the same here in Pakistan 😖😭

[@randomhooman3236]

exactly i personally believe that they should keep separate papers for each category of student (and students can apply for different papers if they want) like keep only maths for branches like CSE and IT and physics for branches like EE,ECE,EP and so on so that students can focus on a particular subject rather than mixing up several concepts

[@SpexYT20]

@@Xyzoski India or Pakistan, it doesnt matter. The Education system is fucking us all over the world.

[@ayushgupta4725]

as a former jee aspirant ...I can say that jee is more of solving problems rather than learning concepts (I am not saying its entirely bad as problem solving also helps you understand the concepts )

[@tryingtobeablackbody6342]

Oh,you are now in vit?

[@ayushgupta4725]

@@tryingtobeablackbody6342 no I am in iit

[@TheC130navigator]

Understanding concepts will make you a much much problem solver/troubleshooter in the real world. Promise

[@iftikaralam0016]

@@ayushgupta4725 tu iit me ho hi nhi sakta

[@ayushgupta4725]

@@iftikaralam0016 why

[@krushna4181]

The time factor also plays an important role. Without knowing the concepts, shortcuts, details of every topic it's impossible to solve even 70% of the questions even though you know how to solve more than 90% of questions. Also in engineering classes the syllabus mainly concentrates on practical applications, so it's important to know the theory beforehand.

[@kojochang9155]

Sounds like a breakdown of India's engineering program is in order

[@x9x078]

Great job tamer, Mashallah brother

[@electric_deer2007]

You are a college graduate who has studied around engineering for around 3 years and you say that the paper is "doable" ....now think of the exam form the POV of a 17 year old high school student 😄

[@Mathew1290]

5 years *********************

[@charanarul574]

Ye he mentions that in the video and how it doesn't make sense to him.

[@Mathew1290]

@@charanarul574 us Indians understand how hard actually OUR ENGINEERING IS COMPARED TO WHAT THEY LEARN

[@charanarul574]

@@Mathew1290 ye I know it is night and day, but the guy who commented said think of it in there pov. Which he clearly does and says he is lucky to be in Canada. What else can you expect him to do. Go back in time and write the test when he is 17. Obviously he can't do that so it's unfair to bash him for something he has no control over.

[@two697]

@@Mathew1290 chill out

[@kataiepor]

I have a feeling that once you get accepted into IIT, your life gets a lot easier, and you don't study as hard as you did in high school. In countries with high education systems in Asia like South Korea, Iran, and Singapore, getting into prestigious Universities is extremely difficult. Still, when students get accepted, school becomes a piece of cake for them because they don't have to work as hard as they did in high school. It's the total opposite here in Canada and the United States. In North American high schools, everything is a lot easier, and getting accepted into good Universities is definitely easier. But once students start studying at Colleges/Universities here, it becomes very challenging for them, and they can't handle the pressure. I'm not sure if this is the same case with India, but that's what my foreign friends from those regions have told me. Anyways, for anyone whos doing the JEE, I wish you the best of luck, and hopefully, your the top 1%!!!

[@nou4605]

Not really true as per what I have heard from IITians. The rat race continues inside the college too. And the thing is the people who get in tend to be extremely competitive and that leads to more pressure. Everybody wants the best paying jobs afterall.

[@brayan8346]

That might be the case at many Universities. I remember high school classes that were harder than some undergrad courses. It varies but that tends to be what I hear from many people.

[@NISHABharati-n4u]

i am a hindi medium student , qualified jee advanced in 2019 at age of 17 without any guide through coaching institute and graduated from iit BHU in mechanical engineering.

[@MrX-il2jt]

My bro don't realize one thing , in JEE looks are receiving even easy looking qns make u struggle

[@bisaj04]

you know ,that is the reason why many IIT graduates are hired from several foreign companies across the world . sundar pichai is an IIT graduate and now the ceo of google . and if you feel this exam hard then think thousands of students in india every year gets above 80 to 90 percent but still could not get their desired institutes like IIT,IIIT,IIST etc.

[@joshuarebello6465]

Goated video. just curious, did you do any of Waterloo's math competitions in high school before going into engineering?

[@twangerrrrrr]

in grade 7 and 9 i did waterloo math tests.

[@technicaobscura8140]

Personally, I think the questions 8, 9 and 10 on the CEMC Euclid are tougher than what JEE Adv math tests you on. Though I think he didn’t do contests since afaik they’re largely limited to CS and Mathematics applicants.

[@kataiepor]

In Grade 9, the University of Waterloo gives tests to Canadian high school students to do. Students sign up to take the test for free, and basically its just some problem solving question. If a student manages to get 100 percent for all math competition tests from Grade 9 to 12, then they get a free scholarship to the Univerity.

[@abderrahmansaadan]

In Morocco : mechanical engineering start after 2 years after high school bac+2 and it take 3 years of study to get your degree , to get in engineering national school, you need to have bac+2 on DUT, BTS, DUST, CPGE or you can study the bac+2 in your national school as "General classes" after that you chose your Division. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- DUT, DUST, BTS as "genie mécanique" CPGE as "TSI, MPSI, PCSI" (sooooooo hard) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- DUT : diplôme universitaire de technologie DUST : Diplôme d'Etudes Universitaires Scientifiques et Techniques BTS : Brevet de Technicien Supérieur CPGE/TSI : technologie et sciences industrielles CPGE/PCSI : Physique, Chimie et Sciences de l'Ingénieur CPGE/MPSI : mathématiques, physique et sciences de l'ingénieur bac stm : Sciences et Technologies Mécaniques bac ste : sciences et technologies électriques bac sm : sciences maths bac sp : sciences physiques * Me : bac stm > DUT > Cycle d'ingénieur "genie mécanique" GM first year now :)

[@eeshanbaheti672]

JEE advanced and gaokao are the most brutal, depressing and heartbreaking exams in the entire world.

[@gaurav7582]

Le UPSC:- are you comedy me 🤣🤣🤣😂

[@somethingelse9228]

South Korea also has a heartbreaking entrance exam

[@kushagra9781]

I am myself in NIT Trichy one of top 10 eng. clg in India. We also have Other top colleges like IITs , which accept jee main score like NITs, and top IIITs , but still if you just consider total seats in NITs and IITs its just 45k ig at max, and applying ones are in millions , so ya its pretty hard to get in , in any top engineering college.

[@omgupta570]

he said " I can solve half ", lol... Man if you can solve half you are ranked pretty darn high JEE Adv looks easy, feels easy but when you start solving this you don't know where its going, on that note I gave the JEE paper you are reviewing and trust me buddy even after studying for 3 years I did clear JEE adv but couldn't get a decent rank, all the hard work for nothing And also easy ques are there obv but mostly everyone solves them because you can give adv only when you clear Mains soo already all the students who are giving the exam are filtered, so its not just about scoring its about solving the most ugliest of ques and on top of that after giving this exam I have to say this, it is not the exam of a cllg or school its something entirely different its like a make it or break it situation even if someone is going with the attitude okay I Dont care whatever happens he / she knows its matters a great deal Because you wanted that thing that IIT tag for 3 years you practiced relentlessly you sacrificed enough and then when you didn't get it its just soo heat breaking ..... AHHH All the emotions coming back 🤣

[@TamerShaheen]

Sorry to bring you back that feeling haha…what I meant when I said I can prolly solve half was that…using the internet, reviewing my notes and taking all the time I want, then I can prolly solve half haha 😅

[@Siegward37]

I will be giving me JEE paper this year and before even starting to prepare I decided to not give advanced. I will just only aim for mains. Like yeah the IIT tag and jobs are great but the amount of sacrifices and hard work it requires just doesn't feel worth it. I would rather just go into an above average college and be happy

[@bhavnakhandelwal4459]

@@TamerShaheen dude the paper is just three hours and you need to solve those questions in approximately 3 minutes Pretty hard i know I am in 12 standard and if you give me 4 hours I can solve 90 percent of the questions... Thats the level of iit that even a foreign university student find it difficult!!!

[@mrminus8590]

He: If you spend a lot of time on learning all the concepts you can do it... Droppers: umm knowledge of wisdom...

[@stardust857]

I am a first year student in iit bhubaneswar. Gotta frankly say, that ptsd of jee is too hard to bear. I don't even want to study anymore. Jee is too ruthless... Not going to discourage juniors, but our education system is truly ruthless....

[@brandonwiles-n8t]

Compared to IMO questions, JEE math exam is like a piece of cake.

[@TamerShaheen]

Interesting…I’d have to look into that

[@brandonwiles-n8t]

@@TamerShaheen You don't need special problem solving ability to solve any of the JEE questions, you just need to know the concepts behind them and know the formulas, but yes, the coverage is HUGE for JEE, you need to know a lot. But in IMO, you won't be able to solve most of the problems even though you are already knowledgeable about them, you need to be very innovative.

[@bassemghorab]

Indians think that memorization and solving quicker means you're 'smarter'. The true purpose of an exam is to assess your knowledge about a concept, and your ability in applying that concept. Consider a real world scenario - it is not the limitation of material or resources, but it is the limitation of the brain's capacity to critically think and breakdown a problem. It seems as though the 'education' system in India has totally lost that purpose. This style of examination doesn't promote engineering. It promotes an individuals ability of being monotonous. The world doesn't need robots, the world needs intellectuals.

[@aneeshyr]

Yes

[@electric_deer2007]

Agreed

[@HARSHNEHAL1996]

Agreed. Although most of the people i know who aced this exam are really smart, some are monotonous. The situation does get a little better once you enter the college where the exams are designed to test your thinking and problem solving ability in realworld situation, but that also depend on your professor. Btw real world scenario is very much about limitation of material or resource. That is what engineering is about, making something out of nothing.

[@AbramFontanilla]

I understand people being proud about the JEE, but some folks really are ruining the math and engi community by belittling everyone else's hard work. I can't watch an exam video on YT without some fanboy bragging about the JEE. We get it, it sucks lol. Respect for any engineer/mathametician who has gone through the process.

[@aneeshyr]

Most of them have no interest in learning the concepts of engineering. They just want high "packages" in placements. Main motivation for most Indians going into engineering

[@tanjiro3285]

wasted 0.5 M indian ruppes on coaching institute for this particular exam.

[@ayushmansingh5302]

First question of physics can be solved in one line just by applying the concept of toppling

[@sapy4124]

And the thing is students study this high level P,C,M just to study computer science in college 😂

[@anshikapandey299]

bro's definitely gonna die after seeing jee advanced 2016 (rotational motion supremacy)🙃

[@zackcarl7861]

That exam have ruined more students self confidence than a war could ever be able too Literally , every serious kid that took the exam and was not able to score high , was into enough depression for atleast next 3-4 yr of his life , that he could have not gained even in a war , facing enemies

[@arunaarc6400]

That was a great vedio ... in india ... we unfortunately have a higher education system which serves only the rich privileged students. In order to appear and qualify this exam , it is important to take coaching which is really expensive. Thus, it makes a path were only rich kids gets quality education.

[@nou4605]

Lol what bs. You completely forgot about reservation

[@lseansiamz4251]

Yeah it's true

[@ItsMe-lr5nd]

Bro please check Question paper of The Graduate Aptitude Test in Engineering (GATE Mechanical) examination conducted in India which is primarily tests the comprehensive understanding of various undergraduate subjects in engineering and science for admission into the Masters Program and Job in Public Sector Companies.

[@Ashallmusica]

Him saying 'grading system is just ridiculous' is the most truthful insight over Indian Education System Edit : What if there's no Grades or marks based on direct Answer and would be more about the whole concepts and equations students has done with critical thinking and knowledge. There would be no anxieties, depression or Psychological Mental Pain for them to go through. More positive and Open minded they can feel to think out of the box to solve complex problems.

[@oksowhat]

aspirants themselves over hype the exam over 4 or 5 un doable questions that appear, the exam is not that difficult if given enough dedication and also this is not high school syllabus for us, high school syllabus is comparatively very easy, this is for those who want to do engineering

[@krishna_theist]

Review the paper of jee ADVANCE 2016 😂😂

[@ganeshagamez2140]

The advanced paper pattern is shifted every year and is only known once you get into the exam room.

[@shubhamdas6031]

Concepts are not college level, its high school level. But Questions are designed in a complicated manner, which makes it difficult.

[@TheMartian11]

One thing you guys need to understand is that the Jee advance exam is exclusively designed for admissions into the 22 IITs, indian institutes of Technology, out of which only the top 10 IITs hold water. Pretty much all other colleges in India require you to just take the jee mains exams, and although the syllabus is the exact same, the level of difficulty is manageable. And also, some great private institutes like BITS Pilani which are comparable to the top 5 IITs have thier own entrance exams, like BITSAT, which is wayyy easier than jee advanced and the career prospects are nearly identical to some prestigious IITs.

[@nayaand]

the downside is only the rich folks can enter BITS. Thing is every good college has something to keep the average people out of it, cz there's just too much competition.

[@TheMartian11]

@@nayaandWell, you can easily take up some students loans to pay for your college. Overall, a 4 year Btech in BITS should cost you around 15-19 lakhs in total, which includes tuitions, hostel/Canteen, internships, and miscellaneous expenses. And tbh, if the average package after graduation is 15-20lpa, I'll say it's worth the investment. And the loans can be easy paid off in a few years. Much better than literally any other private institute which straight up robs you off of 20-30 lakhs for a false promise of 3lpa mass recruitment.

[@Anonymous-fs1od]

Getting into bits with cse branch is also not an easy task

[@TheMartian11]

@@Anonymous-fs1od Blinding choosing CSE just for the hype is also not healthy.

[@rollercoaster9719]

First of all,There are 23 IITs and not only top 10 but top 17 IITs ( except the third gen ones) are best and evolving 🔥.And as far as bits is concerned, the student quality is too poor because bitsat is like just an upgraded version of 12 boards,one of the easiest exam,ah and don't remind me of the fees

[@arun7369]

We as Indians love taking risks😂, I am gonna prepare for it next year too, and I am God damn exited for this.

[@iamnoob8452]

there are 90 chapters and 900 topics

[@zam219]

ur analysis was on to the point. jee advanced is a rejection process and not a selection process

[@pd.dataframe2833]

this exam is to filter the best out of the best. as you said, you dont need to know all these concepts before engineering and normal engineering colleges here have easier entrance exams

[@gaganjast]

I've cleared JEE Mains exam but i want to study abroad.

[@the_gh6st]

I’m india students choose their stream after completing their grade 10th (basically limiting the subjects they need to study) which can allow a student to focus on those specific subjects, those who appear for JEE only study math chemistry and physics (sometimes biology…because you know…DoCTOR) for the entire year and then spend like a month preparing for the rest two subjects for their school exam. So I guess it is pretty fair to be proficient in these subjects as they are the only one you are studying.

[@two697]

You should do a video on the engineering entrance exams for Cambridge and Oxford University.

[@TamerShaheen]

I’ll look into those

[@NN-fw9il]

We learn this in 11th grade.Some of us start earlier as early as 6th.

[@jocyc7162]

Every time I see these type of videos it makes me so grateful for where I live cuz I FORSURE would not have chosen engineering if I were in some other countries jeez. Good luck to y’all for real🍀👌

[@utkarshiitbhu4204]

Thx bro😄😄🥲

[@devidchoudhary80035]

we did your mid term paper in our 11th class 2year before our jee exam.

[@AADITI-pw1ne]

Bro , thats because in INDIA , this is the most basic of engineering that you have to know about , thats why the world demands indian brains , remember mr Ramanujan?? In IIT , we go to even deeper level than that , thats where the actual engineering starts

[@quiveryhurdle7175]

You should do a video on Canada's professional engineering exam certification comparative to the US professional engineering exam cirtificate, they are very different. I got the Idea from Wissam seif's video he's another Canadian Mechanical engineering graduate. (You should think about doing a collab with him one day )

[@AkashShukla_IITK]

Well, the thought that goes behind designing the JEE Paper is that a student who is expected to become a good 'ENGINEER' :- 1. Is expected to minimize errors( resulting in req. of the final answer) 2. Is able to do heavy calculations (difficulty level) 3.Ability to find hidden information and use hints (trick questions) 4.Ability to relate different tools to solve a problem (questions of mixed concepts) 5.Ability to deal with worst case scenarios( unexpected changes in marking scheme and question paper pattern every year) 6.Solving bigger problems in a given time to bring out critical thinking abilities ( the no. of problems are relatively lower for 3 hours/paper). etc. are some of the few reasons for JEE to be the way it is and also since it is an Elimination paper therefore the difficulty curve surges up even more.

[@ManojKumar-rp6sp]

I'll be honest, as a neet aspirant I cleared Mains, and I feel that this was the easiest advance exams compared to previous years, one of the major screening part is done section 3

[@lockdownentertainer1749]

Solving this paper 1 time gave you PTSD and the aspirants in India spent 2 to 3 years with that......The thing I concluded with this is that no person from U.S or Canada should underestimate the struggle of a JEE Aspirant who even if didn't managed to qualify the exam....cause you never know what he went through in the mean process and how pressurized he was at certain situations....

[@catherinejennifer776]

Imagine being a high school student and answering these questions without calucaltor and within less time limit. The best part is that you have no idea how the question paper will be. So if you consider these then i would say that these are one of the very difficult question papers around globe and also many say that,if you take a random guess out of 10 choose the best answer you would probably get two right answers out of luck ,but that doesn't work here.. so if i have to choose the answer by random guess then i would literally fail

[@miguelgcr2246]

Good video. Here in the Technical University of Madrid they also have negative marks so it is very discouraging!

[@nyctophilecat]

GATE just smiled and took its leave from earth.

[@thunderbird4712]

Negative marks are there to test the confidence of the student regarding his/her answer, so it's made sure that his concept is 100% perfect and no bluffing is there. And they want 700 800 students out of all million students for IIT so... Plus we are not allowed to have calculators in exams, so here in Canada also, I do many calculations in mind and other students are like, wait a minute. And JEE Advanced, both papers are done on the same day, 3 hours + 1-2 hour break if I recall correctly and then Paper 2 for 3 hours. So basically its a day long marathon

[@sezo4178]

Wait, you need to take Paper 1 AND 2? I thought it was like one student gets Paper 1 and the other next to him/her gets Paper 2 to prevent cheating or something.

[@TechyGeekyNerdy]

I guess that's why most top tech CEOs are IIT grads.