Tangem Wallet Seed Phrase: Watch BEFORE You Setup!

[@cyberscrilla]

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[@alfb3912]

The question i want to know is if you set tangem up with a seed phrase what do you now use the cards for can they still be used to verify transactions?

[@mariexichen1136]

I’m glad you brought up security of generating a seed phrase. I heard someone say you should put your phone in airplane mode (essentially disabling WiFi) during seed phrase generation. It makes sense that if your phone already has malware on it, air gapping would not help if the malware physically resides on the phone - if it is only resident in the phone’s memory, shutting down, waiting, and restarting ‘should’ clear it. I practice safe browsing, keep the OS up to date, screen any app I install (Apple is better than Google in screening apps they allow in the App Store), periodically check all apps installed to ensure nothing snuck in, run a VPN, prohibit app tracking, restrict sharing, and am mindful of any unusual phone behavior - battery use, data use, physical phone storage, etc. Am I missing anything obvious?

[@Moonraker11]

Excellent video! What's interesting is that I do recall an interview with some of the Tangem folks (forget who exactly). In that interview, he mentioned that seed phrases pose so many problems, which I believe is why Tangem originally went seedphrase-less. It's basically which of the following is the lesser of two evils: 1) Lose all of your Tangem cards. 2) Lose access to your seed phrase (or it gets stolen).

[@cyberscrilla]

Thanks! Tangem’s whole thing is that someone can steal your seed phrase. My thing is that if your store you seed phrase properly and don’t share it online, you don’t have to worry about it being stolen. For me, it’s more inconvenient to NOT have a seed phrase. But I know how to manage my seed phrase. Most noobs don’t.

[@robt8042]

@@cyberscrilla "store you seed phrase properly" care to elaborate on that? You say you know how to manage your seed phrase but won't say how? What are you on about?

[@cyberscrilla]

@@robt8042 Store your seed phrase properly: • Don’t store it anywhere online (files, cloud server, etc) • Physically store it in a metal seed phrase plate, then put that plate in a secure location such as a safe or something. Easy.

[@rc3993]

Kudos to You Alex ,I,m a newbee and your videos are a wealth of information.😁

[@cyberscrilla]

Awesome, thank you for watching!!

[@KingJack86]

If I accidentally hit “create wallet” can I fix this in the app and create a seed phrase? Or do I have to buy three new cards?

[@cyberscrilla]

You can reset it. Make sure you don’t have any crypto on the wallet. Then: 1. Go to settings 2. Select your wallet 3. Tap manage device 4. Tap reset to factory settings 5. Follow instructions on screen tapping each card individually to reset

[@KingJack86]

@ thank you!

[@evoi9715]

Totally agree. Not your keys, not your coins. Bit concerning still, that the seed phrase is/was known to the phone, so it’s not really a cold wallet.

[@nevinwilson]

Agreed I need more thoughts on this

[@NovaScotiaLegend]

Question - If I have setup my ring with seed phrase on paper, if my phone breaks, can I scan my ring on a friend's phone for example if they have the app and sign in with just my passphrase, or will it detect its a new device and prompt me to enter seed? Thank you. Also should I write down the numbers on my cards? I'm guessing they will fade over time or is it unnecessary? Also how can I stamp my seeds into those metal things myself as I wouldn't trust soneone with the seed to do for me. Thabk you very much in advance.

[@cyberscrilla]

If you’re wallet is already setup, you can access it on any device with the Tangem app by scanning one of your cards/ring, then enter your access code. You can write down the numbers on your cards if you want to. The only purpose they serve is being an identifier. You don’t need the number to access your wallet. The seed phrase plates either come with pre-cut metal letters you just place in the correct spot, or it comes with tools needed to stamp the words.

[@NovaScotiaLegend]

@cyberscrilla so to confirm, it's not even necessary if you were to ever to " factory reset" the wallet and setup again if the #'s were unreadable, because it does ask you to scan certain cards in certain order on resetting or I'm guessing you could bypass any issues by just guessing ehich is which trial snd error and would never be fully locked out due to not having #'s? Ty

[@cyberscrilla]

Exactly. You don’t need the numbers on the cards. You’ll still be able to recover your wallet without them.

[@carldingus4876]

Anyone have any insight on the "Keep the wallet in the app" setting in the Settings section on the Tangem cards? What's the purpose and ramifications of turning it off if it is set to 'on'? Thx.

[@cyberscrilla]

This is so you don’t have to scan your card everytime to open the app. Instead you can enable biometrics. Of course, you’ll always need the card to approve any transactions.

[@TicoThepsourinthone-rd8jk]

Thank you for asking this question! I was unsure about this setting as well! And thank you for answering this question, @cyberscrilla !

[@maxime4047]

Can you have manage two accounts with the application with the hidden passphrase and one key?

[@AdanFarrah]

Besides factory reset is there an app to see if you have malware

[@Albertocsj]

I have with seedless can change for seed phrase?

[@mycinemax2653]

I have done this, and still feel insecure because @3:48 when the app show the seed (even after I factory reset phone, then install tangem app, turn off wifi/data before starting the app). I dont know if my phone has malware or not (after the reset), can they see the seed?, and after all step completed, I reset the card, reset the app, then import the seed to make sure its working (all while data/wifi is off), can some malware see it too? I think Im highly paranoid, I do that in an empty room, with phone camera covered. In this specific scenario, ledger/trezor are better, because its generated within the device. I wonder what the process are with tangem is it: at first tap/activation, its instantly generate seed phrase, then when user choose generate seed phrase its only show in the first step.

[@cyberscrilla]

When you setup the wallet, the seed is randomly generated and displayed for you to write down, then it is erased from the app/phone and not stored anywhere and the private keys are stored offline on the secure element in the card. If you’re paranoid about using a seed, then set it up as a seedless wallet. Tangem has sold over 3 million wallets and not a single one has been hacked

[@mycinemax2653]

​@@cyberscrilla I even have extra paranoid with seedless, its a tech, and a tech could die, I have mine in stainless stell, as long as it readable, im safe. Its not the hack that Im worried, but is there a malware on phone that can see what im seing and typing. but hey, thanks for responding..

[@oliveu845]

What if you passed up the seed phrase option can you still go back and get a seed phrase

[@alfb3912]

The question i want to know is if you set tangem up with a seed phrase what do you now use the cards for can they still be used to verify transactions?

[@alfb3912]

@cyberscrilla

[@cyberscrilla]

You must use the cards to verify transactions as that’s where the keys are stored. Otherwise it’d be a hot wallet

[@brent1233]

So I messed up and made the wallet without the seed phrase, can I just factory reset the card and make a new wallet on it with a seed phrase?

[@cyberscrilla]

I just made a video on this exact question: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWPKeaV8ectjia8si=uoiXp1MfKlDzIZ71

[@baronsilverbaron757]

When importing a 24 word seed phrase from a metal storage plate can you just enter the first 4 letters of each word and not the whole word or does Tangem complete the full word after you put in the first 4 letters?

[@aln4057]

Thanks for the video. I have new Tangem wallet and I would like to create 24 seed phrases + Pass Phrase. Going with "Generate seed phrase" option will not give the possibility to create the pass phrase. and going with "import wallet" will not generate the 24 seed phrases for me. Any tips or recommended step-by-step video how to generate the 24 seed phrases to enter them in "import wallet", then I can add my pass phrase?

[@cyberscrilla]

Currently, you can’t create a passphrase, you can only import an existing one. But you can still generate a new 24 word seed phrase by tapping “generate seed phrase”. That said, once the option to create a passphrase is released (in a simple app update) you will likely be able to add a passphrase to your existing 24 word phrase. But I’m not sure when it will be released.

[@Moonraker11]

@@cyberscrilla Is the following an accurate list of the wallets that support a passphrase currently? 1)Trezor 2) Ledger 3) SecuX

[@cyberscrilla]

Safepal, Keystone, Onekey are some more I know of off the top of my head

[@Strukovski]

How is the seed phrase secure if it is generated on your phone which is or has been connected to the internet? Where is the air gap How is this any different to a hot wallet set up Thanks

[@cyberscrilla]

Hot wallets store your seed/private key in the software. Tangem stores your private key on the card (offline). The app only generates it, it’s not stored on the app or your phone. “The wallet’s software selects 12 or 24 random words from a wordlist containing 2048 words based on the BIP39 seed phrase standard. The software converts the chosen string of words into a binary seed, which it uses to generate a set of private keys and public address pairings. The private keys are then uploaded and stored on the Tangem cards.”

[@XxGUNBLAZAxX]

should I import the seed phrase from my legder or phantom wallet into tangem? Or should i just create my own seed phrase with tangem? wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having my ledger wallet?

[@cyberscrilla]

Couple things here. First off, you never want to import your hot wallet seed phrase (Phantom) into a cold wallet as that defeats the purpose of using a cold wallet. Second, whether you want to import your ledger seed phrase into your Tangem wallet is up to you. If you would rather diversify your crypto into different cold wallets, then create a brand new seed phrase using your Tangem wallet. Otherwise, just import your ledger seed phrase .

[@bdubs3067]

Are the seed phrases case sensative ?

[@cyberscrilla]

No

[@MohamedImranMunas]

how to add networks for the particular coin? for example I would like to add shiba inu ,network as solana?

[@cyberscrilla]

Tap the three dots (settings), choose your wallet, tap manage tokens, search for the token, tap it to see available networks, then enable whichever networks you want

[@MohamedImranMunas]

@@cyberscrilla Thanks for the quick responses. but in available network solana is not available as a available network only available ethereum,bnb smart chain,shibarium?

[@BrandonDennis-i7b]

Is there a way going about checking if your phone has malware or would you just recommend factory reseting and importing your icloud backup again? I have a software wallet that hasn’t been hacked so would that mean it’s okay to setup tangem without worry?

[@cyberscrilla]

You could do a factory reset if you suspect your phone has malware (random popups that are hard to close, poorer than usual performance) But if you’ve been using it without issues, you’re likely good to go. And there is no known malware that would affect the Tangem app.

[@BrandonDennis-i7b]

@@cyberscrilla Good to know, I was about to set up my wallet and wanted to be sure. I suppose if there was any malware my hot wallet would already be exposed

[@paulwreck6810]

I usually add some coins and let it sit awhile. I gain trust as time goes on nothing will happen. Im about to make another Tangem wallet with seed and will use a factory reset phone over my wifi as it dont have a sim card.

[@Lam-he6mj]

Tried to set up my tandem with a 12 word seed phrase. On the check step the app indicated I keyed in one word wrong although I didn’t. I tried three times same result. So l went to 24 words and had success. Now I would like to check those 24 words by doing a restore like I did with ledger. How would I do that without negating my original 3 cards. Can I use a forth card?

[@cyberscrilla]

Just go to settings, card settings, and reset your cards. Then set them up again using the Import seed phrase option.

[@Lam-he6mj]

@@cyberscrilla Thanks, I will try this.

[@skwurst]

Is it possible to manage multiple card sets, for example, one set for me and one set for my daughter, in one app on my phone, or is that not possible?

[@cyberscrilla]

Yep! I have multiple sets setup on my phone right now. They will be separate wallets though because you can only have 3 cards per set

[@IvanIvanov-yg1jz]

hello, can you use same seed phraze on multiple different wallets at the same time? Ledger and aTAngem? and use them both ?

[@cyberscrilla]

Yes, you can do that.

[@IvanIvanov-yg1jz]

@@cyberscrilla thanks bro, it worked just fine. I used your discount code.

[@Allo12360]

Hi, great video. Is it only safe pal and Trevor that allows you to create a new wallet with a passphrase? If no what are free or low cost wallet that allows you to.

[@cyberscrilla]

Thanks! Tangem allows you to both import or create a passphrase. I made a video about it here: Make Your Tangem Wallet MORE Secure (Passphrase Setup Tutorial) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ-9gHiOl6uirM0

[@Allo12360]

@@cyberscrilla oh ok , thank you so much I will go watch it now.

[@Allo12360]

@@cyberscrilla Hi do you know free wallets that allows you to import a wallet with pass phrase

[@Sharky1986]

We have all seen Microsoft Windows Copilot and their plans to have it monitor, record AND recall everything you do. Apple's AI assistant seems primed to offer the same "service", even if it doesnt record your actions, the integration and ability to understand and 'assist' whatever you're doing is only going to 'improve. This will be a risk factor in future for those who ever entered their seedphrase. Especially if there's cloud storage involved.

[@John-u1p6u]

Hi, Let me share with you what I checked with Tangem. In order to use passphrase with Tangem, it is not necessary to import existing passphrase from the other hardwallet. You can have the passphrase wallet by using only Tangem card, app. Firstly, you can create 24 seed phrase in Tangem app. Secondly, import the 24 seed phrase created in Tangem app and additionally set passphrase in the import process. Thirdly, make back-up cards with the other 2 Tangem cards. (The card used to create 24 seed phrase in the first step above can be reset and be back-up card during the process making back-up cards.)

[@cyberscrilla]

This is huge! Thanks for sharing!

[@glennm2716]

If I have to get a new phone and download Tangem's app to it, will my cards work with just my pin or do I need a seed phrase?

[@winterblue5219]

Thanks for a great vid! My burning question is... is there a cold wallet out there that will accept my own seed phrase? Call me paranoid (paranoid!) but my trust level is nil when it comes to anything auto-generated. Yeah, I get that whichever company selling the wallet claims they don't/can't see the auto-generated phrase/words, but... I don't deal in bitcoin and those wallets are the only ones I've found that "might" accept my own phrase. Any advice would be most appreciated!

[@cyberscrilla]

That’s not how crypto works. All seed phrases are generated from a pre determined list of 2048 words. This is known as BIP39. And with most wallets, you can confirm that the seed is truly random because the seed generation part of the wallet is completely open source.

[@winterblue5219]

@ Thanks much for the info. I’m down the rabbit hole trying to understand it and explain it to family. I keep hearing them say over and over ad nauseam that we can provide our own phrase. This will go leaps and bounds to help dispel that confusion!

[@CJ-ul6hm]

Good video. I used the import wallet method with the passphrase. I put my phone on airplane mode when entering my seed phrase and pass phrase. Then I turned the Wi-Fi back to finish the set up process. It only took a few minutes.

[@cyberscrilla]

Nice! You can do that without issues (to your point) but it doesn’t do much if anything in terms of security.

[@CJ-ul6hm]

@@cyberscrilla Just gives me a better comfort level. I also used a VPN but I agree with you if the phone has malware it won’t help.

[@paulsparks255]

Thanks for the vids - I'm learning a lot! I have a Tangem wallet but chose to set up without creating a seed phrase. Can I go back and set up a seed phrase now? Also, are the biometrics (facial recognition) used to log in when you have a seed phrase or do you enter the seed phrase each time to log in? Thanks again for your work.

[@cyberscrilla]

The only way you can set up a seed phrase now would be to factory reset your cards. WARNING: if you have crypto on your current “seedless” Tangem wallet, you don’t want to do this as you’d lose all your crypto. Best option would be to buy new Tangem cards, set up with a seed phrase, and transfer crypto from your current Tangem wallet to your new wallet. Only once you’ve got all your crypto off your seedless Tangem wallet can you safely reset it. Another reason why I like the seed phrase option over seedless.

[@paulsparks255]

@@cyberscrilla thanks for the reply - much appreciated. I'll look to get some new Tangem cards and transfer my BTC to them (maybe give the old cards to the kids to start them on their journey!) Thanks again 👍

[@cyberscrilla]

You can do that

[@jvoss1506]

@@cyberscrilla I have new Tangem cards that I set up last night without a seed phrase and now looking to add a seed phrase. Do I understand that correctly. If I haven't transferred anything into my wallet it will not hurt to do a Factory Reset to add the seed phrase, and is the only way to get it? Is there a video for that? Bought my cards using your discount, and plan on buying the seed plate as well. Love your videos, they're great

[@cyberscrilla]

You are correct! If you don’t have any crypto on your cards now, just factory reset them all and set it up again using the seed phrase, and you’re good to go. And I appreciate your support. - Alex

[@AbletonLiveTechs]

Hey i accidentally skipped the seedphrase part and made a wallet. Is there anyway to go back and reset it?

[@cyberscrilla]

@@AbletonLiveTechs Go to settings, tap card settings, then factory reset all your cards-this will allow you to setup a brand new wallet. BUT if you already have crypto on your wallet, MAKE SURE to transfer it to another wallet or exchange temporarily before resetting your cards, otherwise you’ll lose it all.

[@AbletonLiveTechs]

@@cyberscrilla Yessir on it

[@NovaScotiaLegend]

@@AbletonLiveTechs I did the same thing haha

[@PJAYTHEJEWELER]

@@cyberscrilla answered my question! lol thanks!

[@BachataCanada]

Me 3​@@NovaScotiaLegend

[@ronwatkins5775]

Regarding the seed phrase, I bought the metal stamp version to record the seed phrase. It's rather difficult to stamp all the letters in each word. Is there a minimum number of letters you need to have or do you have to have the entire word?

[@cyberscrilla]

It’s minimum letters. Because you only need a few letters to know the whole word

[@ronwatkins5775]

@@cyberscrilla Yes, im wondering how many letters I need though. If I stamp too few, then it's not a unique "word" and will cause issues. Too many letters is hard to stamp. Is there some minimum number which uniquely defines the word?

[@Mrdrunkenbadger]

The bilfodl metal plating only requires you to do the first 4 letters of each word, so that maybe?

[@jadebennett-jr8er]

I have seedless tangem wallet “ bought a 2 card tangem with seed phrase .. what to do - to put my first cards on to my other card with seed phrase

[@cyberscrilla]

You can’t combine cards like that. If you have one set that’s seedless and one set that uses a seed phrase, you have two separate wallets. Your only option is to send the crypto from your seedless wallet to your new (seed phrase) wallet, then factory reset the seedless cards, then set them up again by importing the seed phrase from your new wallet.

[@artapart856]

Would it be beneficial to have both a seedless wallet and a seed phrase wallet? If your seed phrase is hacked, you would still retain the crypto in the seedless wallet. Not a complete loss. Pros and cons?

[@skwurst]

Is it possible to restore the account via Seed Phrase (i.e., entering the 24 words) in the app when the phone is in airplane mode, without being connected to the internet?

[@cyberscrilla]

You can enter your seed phrase in airplane mode. But you’ll need to be connected to the internet to activate the card. Also, airplane mode isn’t going to provide any extra security. The most important thing is that you use the official Tangem app.

[@skwurst]

@@cyberscrilla thx buddy i receive 3 sets today ! thx for the great content

[@derekreiner6002]

I don’t think people consider the vulnerability of the seed phrase enough. Most will store it on paper which can be destroyed, lost, or smeared/damaged. Even if you use a metal plate it can still be lost. You could have multiple seed plates but now you’ve just increased the chance of someone discovering them. Because all anyone needs to do is see your seed phrase for you to loose everything. That would cause a lot of stress (for me at least). It could happen whenever because you are always vulnerable to that weakness. I understand that not having access to the seed phrase makes recovery impossible. But it also makes stealing the crypto with the seed phrase also impossible. Now you just need to protect your Tangem cards which is no different than protecting your metal seed plate. I think seedless is better because few people will use three seed plates for redundancy and if they did it only increases the chance someone can steal your crypto when they see your phrase. I think the compromise is having the seed phrase plus a phrase only you know but this is currently only available via import not creation on Tangem (if I understood you correctly). Is my logic wrong?

[@CJ-ul6hm]

If you aren’t responsible enough to safely guard your seed phrase, you should not be in crypto. Seedless method is insane. If anything happens to your cards, your money is gone.

[@cyberscrilla]

My logic: You’re relying on tech vs a solid piece of metal. Tech fails. Metal lasts many lifetimes. For me, I will always go the seed phrase route. If stored properly and not left out in the open, the fear of someone finding your seed phrase is eliminated. You’re correct, Tangem only allows importing a hidden wallet currently.

[@jbots8883]

Great videos. If i set up my tangem wallet with the random number generator, can you change over to seed phrase or do you need to buy new cards?

[@cyberscrilla]

You mean you set it up without a seed phrase? If that’s the case, it’s easiest to just buy new cards, create a wallet with a seed phrase, and transfer your crypto to the new wallet.

[@miketarescavage744]

Great knowledge, thank you for helping us all out. Sorry if you already covered in a different video, can you give backup card and seed phrase to spouse in case you are no longer able to access, i.e. death, accident, etc..

[@cyberscrilla]

Sure. That’s your choice. Just know that anyone who has your seed phrase has complete access to your crypto wallet. Even without the card as the seed phrase can be used in nearly any wallet.

[@sterancobeatz3625]

Once you use your Tangem card as seedless can you reset the card and add seed phrase? or I need to buy a new tandem card?

[@cyberscrilla]

You can reset it and set it up with a seed phrase. BUT, you need to transfer all your crypto off the cards first, otherwise you’d lose all your crypto since you don’t have the seed. Or you can just buy new cards and transfer to the new cards once you set them up.

[@sterancobeatz3625]

@@cyberscrilla okay. Thanks for the info

[@beautifulone1081]

Can you create your own words for seed phrase? Or do you have to use the words they give you?

[@cyberscrilla]

No, that’s not how crypto wallets work. All seed phrases are randomly generated from a pre determined list of 2,048 words.

[@beautifulone1081]

@@cyberscrilla oh ok but I do have the choice of either 12 or 24 words to choose those right? I just got my wallet but I haven’t set it up yet though

[@cyberscrilla]

@@beautifulone1081 Correct, you can choose either a 12 or 24 word phrase, and the wallet will randomly generate a unique phrase for you.

[@Loppnowd]

Can you choose to add a seed phrase later if initially you choose to not go the seed phrase route?

[@cyberscrilla]

Nope. You’d have to reset the cards and start all over.

[@Loppnowd]

@@cyberscrilla Ugh decisions decisions, I'm not that worried about malware on my phone it's the "spyware" that you don't know is on your phone that my catch your seed phrase.

[@3pdad]

Can the seed phrase contain words such as a person’s name? I was surprised to see that as one of the words offered if I selected a 24 word seed phrase.

[@cyberscrilla]

No. Alll seed phrases are derived from a list of 2048 words. And it doesn’t matter if a word repeats. The phrase is so random that it’s virtually impossible to crack

[@Nomad12344]

can you buy just the set of two and do the seed phrase? Or do you need to buy the set of 3.

[@cyberscrilla]

Yep, you can buy the 2 set and still use the seed phrase 👍

[@Nomad12344]

@@cyberscrilla so having the seed phrase on an app on your phone doesn’t concern you? That’s the only thing holding me back cause I really want to get it I have the Trezor safe 3 but it’s limited on coins so I want to get the tangem and I’m with you too about having a seed phrase I’m just concerned it’s generated through an app.

[@Nomad12344]

@ I’m just concerned that the seed phrase is generated through an app on your phone seems no different than a online wallet, right? That’s the only thing holding me back cause I really want to buy it I have the Trezor safe 3 and I like it but it’s limited on coins so the tangem has the coins I’m looking for. Just scared the seed phrase is at risk when it’s done that way. Do you feel like it’s anything to worry about and that you’re confident that it’s safe?

[@cyberscrilla]

@ The seed phrase is only temporarily displayed on the app. But it’s only long enough so you can write it down. It’s never stored on the app or your device. Tangem has sold over 2 million wallets and not a single one has been hacked. They’ve also been audited by 2 security firms. I trust it to store my crypto.

[@Nomad12344]

@@cyberscrilla thanks for getting back to me I just ordered it!

[@GHOST_1702]

Hey bro is there anyway to generate a seed phrase after you sent up the wallet? 🤔

[@cyberscrilla]

No. You have to factory reset your wallet if you want to setup a new wallet with a seed phrase. If you already have crypto on your wallet, you’d need to transfer it first. Then factory reset each card. Then setup a new wallet WITH a seed phrase and transfer funds back. If you don’t have crypto on your wallet yet, just factory reset and setup again.

[@GHOST_1702]

@@cyberscrilla right on bro thanks! One more question, how do we transfer from one tangem wallet to another tangem wallet? Is that possible?

[@cyberscrilla]

@GHOST_1702 Yes, the same way you transfer crypto from an exchange to a wallet and vice versa. Have you ever transferred crypto before? This video will show you how: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYnMhZJoqrSigMksi=9JmjxOKRQLOPQSj8 BUT remember, you need to transfer crypto from your current Tangem wallet BEFORE factory resetting and setting up the new wallet using a seed phrase. SO for the method I previously explained, you won’t be able to do that unless you buy another set of cards and create a new wallet first. OR temporarily transfer your funds to a hot wallet, or a crypto exchange, then transfer back. The video I shared will show you everything you need to know about transferring crypto.

[@GHOST_1702]

@@cyberscrilla thanks bro, this is all very new to me so I’m moving along slowly. 😬

[@serpe7gk]

So if I'm getting this, every time I want to open the tangem app on my phone do I need to scan the card via NFC? Or do I have to only for transactions, If i just want to see my crypto and general info can the app still be open without scanning?

[@cyberscrilla]

Getting what every time? To open the app you'll either need to scan your card OR use biometrics. It depends how you have your wallet setup (you can change it in settings).

[@serpe7gk]

@@cyberscrilla Opening the app via biometrics would be what I wanted, I was afraid I had to scan the card every time. Nevertheless, I'm assuming I will still need to scan the card for transactions like transferring some amount of crypto to an address?

[@cyberscrilla]

@@serpe7gk Yep, you can change it to biometrics in the Tangem app settings. And correct, you will need to scan your card to initiate and confirm transactions.

[@serpe7gk]

@@cyberscrilla Thank you and keep up the good work!

[@DanielBrenes]

What if a bad actor that works for Tangem decides to fleece our crypto.? I know the card generates a seedless option, but what if this worst case scenario happens?

[@cyberscrilla]

Not going to happen. The Tangem app is 100% open source and it has been verified by two security firms there are no vulnerabilities or hidden back doors. Plus the secure chip used in the card to generate the keys are immune to both digital and physical hacks. AND the Tangem app verifies you’re using authentic Tangem firmware during the setup process.

[@digitalfarm7969]

What’s the likelihood of the chips to stop working? NFC failure/damage etc

[@cyberscrilla]

Not likely. The card and chips are made to last 25 years minimum

[@paulwreck6810]

It can happen. I already lost two credit card chips that stopped working for NFC readers at stores. If you don't get the seed phrase you are playing a risky game of "I hope this hardware don't ever fail."

[@1111111111202]

i thought you needed a bip39 wallet to import a bi39 wallet like ledger?

[@cyberscrilla]

Correct, and Tangem supports BIP39 if you use the seed phrase option

[@1111111111202]

@cyberscrilla thanks for this. I remember searching and found out it wasn't. Didn't know for seed phrase it becomes bip39.

[@1111111111202]

@cyberscrilla can I program a tangem card with a ledger wallet seed phase? So keep the tokens on the same address and block chain i got from ledger but now it's on a tangem card to access it?

[@robt8042]

Seed phrase is the least secure and most vulnerable aspect of owning / self custody of digital assets.

[@cyberscrilla]

It’s not NOT secure. It’s just people are irresponsible with it.

[@avhanzbalabula9112]

I have a seedless tangem with money already in it, how can I make a new one with seed?

[@cyberscrilla]

Is this the old Tangem card or the newer one? (The new cards are one solid color, while the old ones have a distinctive design.) If it’s the old card: • You’ll need to buy a new set of Tangem cards. • Set up the new cards with a seed phrase. • Transfer your crypto to your new Tangem wallet. You can do all of this in the Tangem app, including setting up your new wallet and transferring your crypto. Here’s a video that shows you how to do it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaGxeqZ_fr-DeZYsi=24ImNRqQCfTsm-OV If you already have the new Tangem cards: • Temporarily transfer your crypto to a hot wallet, an exchange, or another cold wallet if you have one. • The reason is that you need to factory reset your Tangem cards to set them up again. If you do this while using a seedless wallet, you will lose access to all your crypto. • After resetting, set up the cards again, this time using a seed phrase. Here’s a video on how to set up Tangem with a seed phrase: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ2keauhrt5sbMksi=m9hCePk2HXNND1TX After that, you can transfer your crypto back to your newly set-up Tangem wallet.

[@billwilliam9975]

I didn't generate a seed phrase! I can't go back and create one now? This means i have to Just buy a new one if i want to set up a seed phrase?

[@cyberscrilla]

You can. But if you already have crypto on your card. Then no. If you don’t have crypto on it, then just reset the cards in settings and set it up using the seed phrase option.

[@dastirogue3282]

That was going to be my question. I don’t have crypto on it yet but was about to start transferring from the exchange.

[@cyberscrilla]

If you want to use a seed phrase, reset cards now and set it up again using the seed phrase (before you put crypto on it).

[@notinuse5925]

​@@cyberscrillawhat if you send your crypto on exchange (empty your tangem) then set up your seed phrase ?

[@cyberscrilla]

You can do that too

[@Alextran68]

If you lose your seed phrase but still have all your Tangem cards can you still retrieve all your cryptos on the Tangem app??? Please help

[@skwurst]

Yes

[@paulwreck6810]

if the cards still work you can. You should never lose your seed phrase. If you want a new seed you should send all your coins to another wallet temporarily and and make a new Tangem wallet erasing the current cards and then moving the coins back to your new Tangem wallet that you secured the seed to this time

[@OmarNAJA-pi8sr]

​@@paulwreck6810or he can go to the app and reveal the seed associated with the card, like in trustwallet

[@nicobester4809]

I have the older tangem cards,The seed phrase is only optional on the new cards am i correct?

[@cyberscrilla]

That’s correct 👍 Definitely worth upgrading in my opinion

[@nicobester4809]

Thank you,yes i need to upgrade.thanks for the videos.

[@NewcarsTv]

Are you sure if you loose access to the application while your seedprase was automatically generated by the app; you will still get your crypto back ? It means app gone crypto gone if automatic key is generated. Or am getting it wrong

[@cyberscrilla]

A seed phrase can be imported into nearly any wallet. So yes, you can easily recover your crypto. Crypto isn’t stored on the wallet or in the app, it’s stored on the blockchain. Thus if you have your seed phrase (the key to your wallet), you’re good.

[@BrandonDennis-i7b]

So with the Tangem seed phrase, even is someone gets access to it they still need to know the user passcode, similar to if a tangem card gets stolen?

[@cyberscrilla]

No. If someone has your seed phrase, they can access your wallet on any hardware wallet (this is true for any wallet). The seed phrase is the master key to your wallet. So keep it tucked away in a secure place If you setup the wallet as a seedless wallet, then you’d have no seed phrase and that worry is eliminated. But I prefer to know my seed. But if someone finds your cards, yes, they need your access code.

[@BrandonDennis-i7b]

@@cyberscrilla Okay thanks, that was something I wanted to clarify. So if I lose all my tangem key cards, the only way to regain access would be to have your seed-phrase to put into another hardware wallet, or purchasing another set of tangem keys and setting up another wallet?

[@BrandonDennis-i7b]

And if you have a seedphrase you can import your assets from a lost tangem wallet to a new one?

[@cyberscrilla]

If you have a seed phrase and you lose all your cards, the only way to recover your funds is by getting another wallet, and import your seed phrase. It can really be any brand wallet (Tangem, Ledgger, Trezor, whatever) as long as it supports the same tokens you had on Tangem.

[@cyberscrilla]

Yes. That is the only way to recover your crypto when you have a seed phrase. Import it into a new wallet

[@ezekielhenderson8305]

If I already created my wallet without a seed phrase can I go back and introduce one to an already active wallet?

[@cyberscrilla]

Yes, you can reset the card to factory settings. BUT, if you have crypto on them then no. You’d need to transfer your crypto off the cards first, do a factory reset, create a new wallet, then transfer your crypto back to the new wallet.

[@timlangford8678]

Can I generate my own “brand new” seed phrase with words that I choose? Or am I forced to use a seed phrase randomly generated by Tangem? I do not have a previous hardware wallet. Should I set up a wallet somewhere else so I can choose the words in my seed phrase? If so, where would be the best option. I really REALLY REALLY do NOT want a seed phrase chosen for me!! I would not have bought a Tangem wallet had I known I had to use their seed phrase!

[@cyberscrilla]

You can’t choose any word you want for a seed phrase. All seed phrases are randomly generated from a pre-selected list of 2048 words. This is how most all wallets work, not just Tangem. The safest and most random solution is to just let your wallet do it for you using the TRNG.

[@timlangford8678]

@@cyberscrilla Thank you for your quick and clear response. You have a great site and explain things very well.

[@deepu2508]

What if by mistake we skipp it can we reconfigure it

[@cyberscrilla]

You can factory reset your cards in settings>card settings>reset to factory settings. Then set them up again. HOWEVER, if you have it setup as a seedless wallet right now with crypto on it, you’ll need to transfer your crypto to another wallet temporarily before resetting, otherwise you lose all your crypto. Then transfer it back once your new seed phrase wallet is setup.

[@yeahyou13]

If I import my ledger to tangem due to ledger not being safe they give out info to third parties how do I shut down my ledger and only use tangem so I won’t be at risk

[@cyberscrilla]

The best option here is to create a new wallet and send your crypto to it. You can’t shut down a wallet

[@yeahyou13]

@@cyberscrilla okay I have some meme coins that I should be able to import token on tangem thanks for all the help and insight wish me luck my tangem wallet is on the way

[@smyth613]

if I already set up the wallet without the seed phrase, can I still reverse that and do a seed phrase?

[@cyberscrilla]

If you haven’t put crypto on it, just do a factory reset and set it up again using the seed phrase. Otherwise you have to transfer your crypto off the wallet first, then factory reset

[@lorddrix3598]

How to get that metal stuff?

[@yeahyou13]

If I generate my ledger seed phrase first can I still go back and generate a new tangem seed phrase in the future?

[@cyberscrilla]

You can create as many seed phrases as you want

[@aparecidosilva3034]

hi, I already created a wallet, how can i still get my seed phrase

[@cyberscrilla]

You’d have to factory reset your cards and set it up again using a seed phrase. But if you already have crypto on your seedless wallet, don’t do a factory reset or you’ll lose all your crypto. So, you’ll have to either transfer your crypto to another wallet or exchange temporarily, then reset you cards, create a new wallet, then send the crypto back. OR Just buy another set of cards, set them up using a seed phrase, and transfer your crypto to your new wallet

[@a1isrising]

If i have a new phone with nfc and i transfer data to new phone from old phone and old phone has malware or some other virus or something unknown to me can that be transfered to new phone ? What should i do if i have the new tangem cards and have nfc on phone , do it not do a data tranfer and just manually set up new phone with current sim card or is the sim from old phone also corrupted ? i do not know if i have malware on old phone but would rather be safe than sorry , as the new phone does have my coinbase app on it and cb always wants to verify the device everytime i log in saying it does not reconize the device but i very raley log into bc with phone because idk if its corrupted but when i do my account is still good . so if my old phome is clean and i put sim from old to new phone the trans data then set up tangem wallet create seed then take all my stuff off exchanges onto new tangem cards with seed i should be all good ? please advice as i still new to this stuff and do not have tech confidance or savvy lol i watched every vid and hasetate with hd wallets cold storage because all i have is a phone and have not set up any wallets because by the time i comprehend how to do so a new wallet comes out with upgraded tech like tangem with seed phrase and trezor 3 , i habe trezor 1 base model and first gen tangem too

[@cyberscrilla]

Malware typically requires specific conditions or vulnerabilities to operate, which might not exist on the new phone. Also, data transfer methods usually involve transferring user-generated data rather than executable files, making it less likely for malware to transfer. Most importantly, make sure you’re using the official Tangem app and you should be good!

[@a1isrising]

@@cyberscrilla cool bro thanks , i dont know what i dont know so im learning all i can , i was not sure , i know new phome would be ok but didnt want to transfere data and corrupt new phone , im gonna use your code ro get new tangem cards too thanks again

[@cyberscrilla]

@@a1isrising Keep learning and I’ll do the same! Thanks for your support! - Alex

[@iva4856]

Good video! But the datum you give at 7:05 is wrong, it is possible to create two wallets with three cards, you have to reset the first backup card and then use it as primary or secondary of the second backup.

[@cyberscrilla]

Yes, you can technically create an unlimited number of wallets using just two cards (via the seed phrase method). But you can only manage one at a time with only two cards. I did not explain that though.

[@HarleyTowers]

Can you use both options ?

[@cyberscrilla]

Not unless you have two sets of cards.

[@paulwreck6810]

Once the app shows you the seed phrase and you write it down you wont have to use the seed again. You just use the card like you never chose seed option. The seed is just what it is - for your safe keeping incase you lose all your cards and need to restore wallet

[@ahmadrana-c1y]

I have all my tangem cards but lost seed phrase how to recover it?

[@Justin-oq3ng]

you cant recover a seed phrase

[@willmason4162]

You buy a new wallet and transfer everything to it

[@ciddyboy718]

whats with the blush

[@cyberscrilla]

All natural. I don’t wear makeup bud.

[@Prince1667]

If I import my wallet from from leidger to Tangem can I still use my ledger??

[@cyberscrilla]

Yes. You can import a seed phrase into as many wallets as you want and still use each wallet with that same seed phrase.

[@Prince1667]

@@cyberscrilla that’s great then thank you!

[@Prince1667]

@@cyberscrilla did u soggiest to have only one seed phrase or more?

[@cyberscrilla]

More is better. Especially when it comes to cold storage. You shouldn’t use your dedicated cold storage wallet to connect to dapps and random websites. Otherwise you risk getting drained via a phishing link. In this video I break down how I manage my crypto to ensure it stays safe: How to Manage Your Crypto Safely in 2024 (Beginners Guide) kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHLcpYqaftZ4Z8k

[@Prince1667]

@@cyberscrilla did I need Eth to transfer my usd or usd tether I still don’t know how to figure it out

[@songsabai3794]

Too bad Tangem couldn't bring the 'with or without' seed phrase options together by just briefly flashing the generated seed phrase during set-up and allow the user to make a copy before it is erased. CombiningTangem's functional security with an optional external copy for peace of mind.

[@moodym22]

I encountered an issue with tagem cards importing seed pharse from a different hardware wallet. Here it goes. I set up 2 tangem cards by importing seed phrase with passphrase from safepal hardware wallet. All good. Then I tried to factory reset the '2' tangem cards, and whilsr doing so, it looks for a 3rd card to scan before it will finish the factory reset. I guess it's looking for the "wallet-the safepal" to scan . This can't be done as the wallet does not work on safepal (NFC). this is an issue if anyone tries this and finds it to be proven. I found another issue with tangen cards using 1 card version1 with another one as a backup but version 2. or vice versa. hhmm...??

[@gonzalocarrillo3835]

Yes tangem has been garbage so far for me. I cant see to make an address to put certain coins that it accepts on it

[@cyberscrilla]

What do you mean?

[@gonzalocarrillo3835]

@@cyberscrillanvm haha. When i first uploaded my cards to my phone it wouldn’t let me create an address for my other coins. Weirdly enough, i just tried again after a month of letting it be and now it worked😊😊

[@gonzalocarrillo3835]

@@cyberscrilla when i first tried it about a month ago, i kept getting a error code. Anyways thank you for all your sweet videos! Keep up the good work🎉🎉🥇🥇🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾😊

[@cyberscrilla]

Glad it worked out for you! Thanks for watching :)

[@AIAnalysisMD]

I have a query about importing a seed phrase. Given your vocal opinion on Ledger at the moment with their essential ability to backdoor the Ledger Wallets and acquire a persons seed phrase, Importing my Ledger Seed phrase into a Tangem wallet would essentially mean that both of those hardware devices would have the same seed phrase assigned to them, would it not? So if Ledger did decide to do something dodgy, not saying they would, but it would mean that it compromises my Tangem too?

[@cyberscrilla]

You are correct!

[@plotzy9961]

@@cyberscrilla But its an option to create the seed phrase with the first 12 words from the ledger for the tangem, because the seed phrase for the ledger has 24 words...!

[@plotzy9961]

@@cyberscrilla Or you type the ledger seed phrase backwards xD correct?

[@cyberscrilla]

That is not correct. You can either import an existing 12, 18, or 24 word seed phrase. Or create a completely new 12 or 24 word phrase

[@cyberscrilla]

No. Not correct

[@bradleygarside1919]

I can't download the app on my moto phone

[@Hmmm313]

How to add wallet with old card?????

[@cyberscrilla]

You can’t. You need the new cards

[@Moonraker11]

I just looked and Tangem has discontinued their white Tangem cards. Good thing I got them while they lasted!

[@cyberscrilla]

More colors coming soon 😉

[@greegp7400]

Thank you for your work

[@cyberscrilla]

As always, thanks for watching!

[@LMGphilanthropy]

Can we make our own seed phrase?

[@cyberscrilla]

You could. But not using your own words. Seed phrases are derived from the BIP39 wordlist-a preselected list of 2048 words. So there are devices and programs to generate your own seed phrase, but at that point, just use the wallet to generate your phrase.

[@Ricardo-r7x6m]

The Bad thing is that the V1 card does not allow seed phrase

[@cyberscrilla]

Well yeah, they didn’t offer a seed phrase back then. Just get the new card if you want a seed phrase.

[@yossarian67]

So what if someone hacks the tangem app and is able to collect tons of seed phrases?

[@cyberscrilla]

Not possible as the seed phrase isn’t stored anywhere. It’s only briefly shown so you can record it. Once you setup your wallet your private key is sent to the cards and stored offline and the seed phrase is deleted.

[@1rjona]

IMHO, losing all your Tangem cards as likely as losing all the copies of seed phrase. And making lots of copies of your seed phrase increases the likelihood that someone else might find it

[@cyberscrilla]

While that may be true, my point still stands. The cards are tech - which will EVENTUALLY fail. Or a fire could destroy them. Whereas a metal seed phrase plate will last a lifetime and is more resistant to various elements. Also, if you want to use a different wallet with your same seed phrase you can’t - because you don’t know it. I just don’t feel comfortable holding massive amounts on a card I don’t have the seed phrase for Or at the very least can create more than 3 backups. But that’s just my preference. To each their own. I still use the seedless (1.0) wallet too. But I don’t hold as much crypto on it.

[@Rains-in]

Cards can fail, break etc. Don’t act stupid. It’s the same as ur bank card. U can break it and lose access.

[@cyberscrilla]

EXACTLY, tech is bound to fail eventually. However, I will say Tangem cards are much more durable than any bank card I’ve used. Definitely the most durable wallet on the market.

[@1rjona]

@@Rains-in losing all 3 cards are less likely than losing a few pieces of paper. I agree writing the seed phrase on a metal plate is important

[@Rains-in]

@@1rjona first time you’ve heard of steel plates?

[@AdanFarrah]

Great job

[@khurramraza3589]

Hi.... Still Tangem is not supporting ICP. Kindly Guide.

[@cyberscrilla]

As mentioned many times before. This is on their timeline to release sometime in May/June

[@khurramraza3589]

@@cyberscrilla Thanks......

[@HungTran-jx2xc]

I saw your seed phrases :)

[@cyberscrilla]

🤫

[@greegp7400]

I'm waiting for ring 😊

[@cyberscrilla]

Me too!

[@boilroaming]

I'd suggest using a dedicated phone for this purpose. You could factory reset your old iPhone or pick up an inexpensive Android device.

[@cyberscrilla]

Sure. It’s not necessary in my experience. But if you have one laying around, it doesn’t hurt.

[@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975]

Keep in mind Samsungs only provide security updates for 2-3 years. Make sure you don’t get a phone too old

[@boilroaming]

@@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975 you need Android 6+ and NFC function

[@cyberscrilla]

Good point!

[@realtalk2528]

If you using a new iPhone, do you think you should get an antivirus like bitdefender or Norton on the phone? I heard people say that its necessary for androids but not iPhones... and that norton and bitdefender also gather and sell your info. Thats a NO NO when it comes to crypto. Idk, Should you use an antivirus like Norton/bitdefender when using tangem on an iphone??

[@allanponce6790]

Nice video

[@cyberscrilla]

Hey thank you!

[@ardissaps]

I dont trust Keyboard app for not being recording our seed phrase, tangem should not use system keyboard.

[@cyberscrilla]

??

[@RyanHipp]

That seedphrase plate just looks like a brick of gold that will be obvious to any burglar or pirate that knows what they are looking for. I hide my seedphrase in plain sight with mnemonic memory devices - no one would know they are looking at a crypto seedphrase

[@cyberscrilla]

Nice! I’m not worried about someone finding it though. I’m more worried about the potential for a natural disaster to destroy it.

[@RyanHipp]

@@cyberscrilla Good point. i have committed my words to memory like my actual name, SS # or DoB

[@vincentchanbiz]

As a Tangem user, I regret not having seed phrase. Imagine you send some tokens from hot wallet to tangem wallet on new chain, but the chain is not supported by Tangem. You fund is stuck. GG. If you have a seed phrase, u can import to hot wallet and burn that Tangem wallet. It happened to me and I am still pestering and praying Tangem to support the new chain soon, at their mercy.

[@cyberscrilla]

If the chain is not supported by Tangem, then how did you get the address for that chain to send it to Tangem? If you sent it on the wrong chain, it’s likely lost forever because you sent it to the wrong address. So even if Tangem supports the chain, it wouldn’t matter since you sent it from one chain to another. What chain is it?

[@vincentchanbiz]

@@cyberscrilla So in my case, I send asset from ETH mainnet to Mantle L2. Both are EVM so same 0x address. Mantle network received my bridged asset but I cannot bridge out or do anything on the Mantle network anymore. I can see my asset on Mantle explorer so the asset is in my 0x address, just not able to sign any txs.

[@ИванПостернак]

Круто

[@pengoat9]

I just did a Tangem setup until I got to the generate seed phrase only to see a list of 12 of their words in it and no way to put 12 words of my choice. Talk about pissed off.I cancelled setup and requested a refund .The way I see it is if the seed phrase is not mine then the crypto is not mine and I have already lost a lot of crypto when Voyager crashed .

[@cyberscrilla]

Brother, that’s not how any crypto wallet works. You can’t create your own seed phrase. All crypto wall seed phrases are generated from a predetermined list of 2000 words. Every seed phrase is extremely secure. You’re more likely to get struck by lightning three times a day every day of your life than someone is guessing your seed phrase

[@Hmmm313]

Seeds r history. Biometric is the future….

[@cyberscrilla]

Idk about that. I agree seed phrases are not the future though.

[@Gcamel405]

Why cant ppl remember their 24 word seed. Its not difficult to learn the 24 words if you try. It gives you such peace of mind in knowing you have your recovery phrase stored in your head. If you can recite the alphabet you can do a seed

[@cyberscrilla]

What if you get in an accident and experience memory loss? Will you have a backup then?

[@asdf9C]

unless the tangem company closes down.

[@cyberscrilla]

That means nothing? A seed phrase can be imported into any almost brand wallet.

[@asdf9C]

@@cyberscrilla perhaps you have more experience than I do. I have taken a lot of time to talk to them personally, and they told me literally that the seed phrase is not compatible with many other cold wallets. I'm not trolling here; i just want to know that my security is actually secure.

[@asdf9C]

@@cyberscrilla bro, for the life of me; i am not lying to you; i just need to figure out a way to know if my seed phrase will work in a bad situation. I appreciate your content and am just looking for answers.

[@asdf9C]

@@cyberscrilla wow dude, maybe i'm wrong, but it seems like you deleted my comments maybe. I'm subscribed to your channel and was just trying to learn more. Did you delete my comments because you didn't like them for some reason?

[@cyberscrilla]

All your comments are still above so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.. Also, whoever told you that Tangem’s seed phrase isn’t compatible with other wallets is lying. Seed phrases aren’t specific to a wallet brand. Most wallets use BIP39 standard: Ledger Metamask Trezor Tangem Onekey ELLIPAL Keystone Safepal Etc It’s common knowledge Doesn’t mean all wallets will support the same crypto though

[@Antilli]

I would never type a hardware seed phrase on a phone.

[@cyberscrilla]

Then this wallet isn’t for you.

[@Rains-in]

@@cyberscrillacan’t he make one on another wallet and import?

[@cyberscrilla]

You’re still typing it when you import

[@Rains-in]

@@cyberscrilla oeff