Hermitcraft - The Dream Team Enters!

[@HeatherKraafter]

I know Tango won't see this but it would be hilarious if at the end of the day it played Bdubs' saying, "Great job today. Now GET OUT!!"

[@quakerninja]

His name is B Grubs now.

[@jarredeagley1748]

Especially if it was like a 1 in 10 chance of happening LMAO

[@HelenaOfDetroit]

Thanks Tango for getting the VODs up so quickly. I struggle to keep up with the speed of the Livestream and being able to pause the VOD, think about different Redstone solutions, game design concepts, etc., really teaches me so so much! I'm also just amazed, humbled, and awed by how great everyone in this community is. People in this comment section are super smart and kind. Thanks everyone for sharing great ideas with me and considering some of the ones I've tossed out as well. Love you all!

[@igricRBX]

You summarized my thoughts perfectly :D

[@clamheaven]

Of course, this is his main channel, of course he’s working hard up here, instead of his recap channel that he shows his wildlife series to not taint his main channel. Not saying the life series is bad🪬🧿🪬🧿

[@Heppiesmile]

2:30:24 bdubs almost dropped an f bomb lol, i love scars little giggle when he relised

[@tona11Qapik]

4:29 "I want pumpkin pie!" "You want a punch in the face." Cleo is on a roll

[@norbby42]

The best part of Hungry Hermits might simply be the peanut gallery. I love all the other hermits getting sassy during the day.

[@DragonsDungeon]

A round robin event for this would be great, every day a new person is swapped in and when people die, it’s like a full week shifts at a restaurant. Different teams having to deal with the previous day shift’s set up or jumping in to help after an employee leaves for medical emergency (dies)

[@joeyflute]

Some highlights 19:00 Cleo fall into redstone 40:30 Scar punches the dog 😂 1:44:00 Scar talk about airport llamas 🦙 1:51:30 Scar and Etho Run 2:11:55 Tango and Etho Run 2:33:37 Scar and Bdubs 3:55:27 Etho and Pearl Run More from the viewers: Tango was a game developer for 13 years 😮here’s more details 1:54:55 Checking out the entrance progress 2:58:30 Talking about the changes and rules w/ Etho and Pearl 3:00:30 the health inspector shows up 4:31:42 Pls add more in comments if you have I’m a flute player. If you have time to take a peak to my profile that would be much appreciated!

[@joeyflute]

Tango was a game developer for 13 years 😮here’s more details 1:54:55

[@igricRBX]

@@joeyflute The hero we deserve. Thanks a lot!!

[@potsu5632]

Checking out the entrance progress 2:58:30 Talking about the changes and rules w/ Etho and Pearl 3:00:30

[@tuvshin862]

​@@joeyflute I think you should edit these into the original comment

[@joeyflute]

@@tuvshin862 will do!

[@SkyKnight742]

It's wild that Redstone in Minecraft has better time travel debug tools than most state of the art programming languages. The "record the state of the entire world and replay it in slow mo later" is so mindblowingly amazing I want to find a way to have that in my actual day job

[@BingusFodder]

2:45 "oh so play sucky get two turns, alright thats goodler, good rule, good on that rule." "eyy, you know what bdubs, you should, you should be getting infinite turns" "OHhhhhhhhoh! Cleo's on one today, isn't she! filled with sass."

[@AspynDoesStuff]

tysm i have no clue what anyone was saying lol

[@Alice-not-Alice]

Ah, I missed these long hangouts at a Tango game! The design/rules talk at the end was fascinating, as a game design nerd it’s really cool to see the three of you solving these problems together

[@TheRyepoog]

The flood doesn’t have much of an effect you can immediately see. But just like in Plateup, anything that increases your travel time to deliver food to customers adds up.

[@connork71]

To hilariously discourage using the farm for storage, just let loose a pack of foxes out back. Nature will take care of itself!

[@Heppiesmile]

There would need to be a system implimented to not make the fox mess with the pressure plate and the minecart and the dog. Also to remove its items idk if that would be possible

[@kiddailey]

Could use one allay per item type instead. Probably easier to deal with as long as they don’t die.

[@connork71]

The allays could work, but you'd also be incorporating more Redstone into the space and need more entities to be dedicated for each specific item. Allays also could potentially fly into the kitchen, whereas with foxes, you may be able to prevent them from accessing areas with the old carpet over a pit trick.

[@connork71]

The pathing system may be as simple as carpet or moss over a pit to block their pathfinding back into the kitchen. For item removal, foxes should eat food items after a set time, so that's a non-issue for disposal. Non-consumable ingredients will be dropped in favor of food, but if players focus on using that retrieval mechanic, then the players are going to need to hunt down the fox that stole from them and lose a food item that they also potentially needed (resulting in a net loss). At that point, they already wasted more time than what would have been spent retrieving another of that item from it's original location.

[@shinyfirefly5034]

I love this idea! And foxes being a nuisance in the farm is thematically appropriate.

[@thesillyone3837]

any team with pearl is overpowered

[@J55_ZR]

Pearl is very one-sided, really only good as front-of-the-house, someone like Ren or False is much more well-rounded.

[@dddraconisss]

she should try doing solo run! xD maybe only with someone opening the fridge for her

[@jianalexander1359]

Literally the plot of Double Life

[@PaulDeanFilm]

Simple crafter rule that can’t be misinterpreted: you can not remove items from the crafter except by crafting them. That way you can only ever put something in that is to be crafted. If you stack you have to craft them all before you can craft anything else.

[@Matt43]

To encourage players who have died to re-lock their inventory, you could require a lock to be thrown into an item filter to open the door to get back in

[@jackdubois1512]

Etho and pearl's resteraunt should be called the try hard rock café

[@Matt43]

Best use of beetroot in all eternity... a Minecraft mini-game objective

[@_Msn_]

0:00 The way Bdubs just turned around and stared directly into the camera gave me a fight-or-flight response x3

[@jef_3006]

"Items may only be removed from the crafter by crafting." That is a simple rule, which has the natural side effect of making it so that you only ever put item in the crafter when you are working towards crafting, but doesn't have the time component and so doesn't have the open-to-interpretation problem.

[@jef_3006]

A separate line banning stack of items would probably still be necessary.

[@ajali5602]

There could also be a seperate button for flushing/trashing the crafters inventory, so Tango could disallow ever manually removing items from it.

[@50006shelbygt]

I love the HC Community! This game has a leaderboard competition, and yet other hermits are always offering hints and tips to players to help them. It’s absolutely heart warming!

[@shinyfirefly5034]

It's also a testament to Tango's skill in designing games; in this instance, you can give all tips and tricks you want to a player, but if they panic during the game, it might not help them at all. There are so many skills required for this game, but there's also an element of luck so it stays interesting.

[@Daniel-rd6st]

What Pearl and Etho i think have not yet realized and what could save a ton of time is, that at the booking station, you dont have to wait every time until the item comes before you press the button again. Especially Etho seemed to do that a lot. You can just spamclick the button and only the first item will have a delay, the rest will come one after another (Tango did that). You could really stack up on dog treats day 1 really quickly that way. Get 20 or so dog treats and you are set for some time.

[@quiietriot]

There's nothing better than Hermits playing the games and doing totally unexpected things like falling into holes and punching bon jovi.

[@computernoise2209]

2:56:18 Imagine running track, the gun is raised, trigger squeezing... "Wait, I want to swap shoes-" *BANG*

[@Cyrsztof]

3:55:27 is when Etho and Pearl start playing, at least that's the best I could find, don't have time to watch everything

[@bramblechaser162]

It’s so nice to hear that we can still support you even if we can’t catch the live streams! I’m a teacher and streams are usually while I’m still at work or just coming home. However, one of my favorite things to do while writing an IEP or something other thing during my plan time or after work is to put a vod up on my second monitor on mute, and play music in another tab. It really helps with my anxiety and ADHD. I don’t feel alone but I can stay focused on my work. I really appreciate you putting content out that people can just vibe to. I mean I’m literally listening to this while doing laundry.

[@donotpressw]

The point made by Pearl and Etho in the end about having to stack bonemeal and dog treats are valid, but the same can be said for quite some non-farm items, like cookies, sugar, beetroots, gold nuggets etc. That’s part of the challenge: are you storing an item on a valuable itemframe shell, holding a stack of items in your hotbar, risking it all by dropping some on the ground to quickswap while farming or crafting stuff. I liked chat’s idea for the mud bricks on the farm because it introduces no new mechanics and it doesn’t dictate a play style. It also makes the early game a bit more challenging and hectic and the late game doesn’t really suffer because you should have plenty of item frames by then. Also, there are multiple places with item slots (barrels in the farm, crafter) and the general rule don’t use any GUI-inventory slots other than the ones in your hotbar to store stuff is REAL simple. Lastly: I think devs shouldn’t adjust their game to 100% bullet proof speedrunners, and Tango shouldn’t adjust his too much just for the two or three really, really good players. Some stuff gets abused and then patched, but too much ‘well, hypothetically this could lead to X which is overpowered’ discussions will just end up in a lot of rules, hacky solutions, hall monitoring by chat and fixes for problems that might not be actual problems. Let the top tier gamers prove they can abuse something before patching the exploit I’d say, and keep the rules simple and mostly naturally embedded in the game (so in stead of ‘no dropping items’, there’s rats that will enforce)

[@aka_Lazer]

what are you talking about, nothing hes fixed has been to bullet proof the game from speed running. the F is speed running in HH anyway? And the clarification of the rules wasn't for the hermits, it was to hopefully prevent certain types of people in their chats and comments from being annoying.

[@justrecentlyi5444]

Regarding your last point, Tango has made this game primarily as a social game for his friends, as well as a good source of content for them. So he has to manage demand to play the game as well, and a ludicrous high score that's only possible by abusing certain mechanics could be a definite turn-off to some Hermits. This game is inherently less competitive/more social than Decked Out, so it's not as important, but I'm sure it's a factor Tango is considering. The social aspect should really help mitigate those issues, for example I really hope to see Keralis and xB play this together at some point, although IDK that they will be a huge threat for high scores. That said, higher-scoring games do take longer, which could cause issues with throughput, unless Tango finds a way to balance a 3-player mode.

[@donotpressw]

@@justrecentlyi5444yeah, that’s a fair point.

[@knack2baybee]

The problem with waiting for players to prove something can be abused, rather than fixing it early based on speculation, is that then you end up with high scores based on an exploit that no one else is going to be able to match. This is what's already happened with Pearl's phone-spam run; the issue's been fixed, but now Tango has to decide whether to let the high score stand or throw their run out completely.

[@anonymous_cards]

I think the new meta will be getting the doorstopper upgrade to use the farm as infinite counter space

[@Yau_G.R.]

I think there is a rule against "cheeky" placing of items, like on top of things that shouldn't have items on them to prevent Because technically nothing stops you from using the serving tables as counter space

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I mean, counters are still convenient because of how close to the kitchen they are. The farm only has space, not speed or convenience

[@HelenaOfDetroit]

​@@Yau_G.R. it used to be true that nothing stopped people from using the serving tables as a place to put items. But Tango fixed that awhile ago. What you see is just the fancy covering via armor stands. The actual block that is there is a hopper. So, if you toss items on those tables then they get picked up by rats.

[@N0u7adawi]

@@Yau_G.R. serving tables are armor stand on a hopper similar to the counter on the kitchen, so they can't. also I think you are allowed to throw items from the farm in the ground. farm area have no mincart (rat system) and tango did not comment on that as not allowed. Edit: Tango said its fine 00:21:16

[@jom861]

@@Yau_G.R.the serving tables have hoppers underneath em iirc

[@ashwinraj7603]

For the lore, kinda like the freezer, you could say "For health and safety reasons,......"" for the farm cause like eww don't put food for customers in dirt after you prepare it. Like thats a rule in bakeries and what not. Cause then there is some intution for the players and it feels more like a realism feature rather than a balance change

[@blarblablarblar]

There's a problem because if you wanna farm wheat or beetroot, you need bonemeal, seeds, and the crop. That's three item stacks, and you only get two slots. It would be impossible to pick up the crop. Maybe you can make a rule about not throwing food down after picking it up? But I think that's kinda janky and also everyone's gonna forget about it.

[@alexmuir7505]

I think the best way to describe what is allowed to be put on the ground in the farm is "Items produced or used in the farm area", which would include all produce, seeds, and bonemeal, as well as dog treats and buckets.

[@fredriklindlof8720]

Crafter rule: you may put whatever you please in the crafter. But you cannot take anything out of it. Only once its crafted it gets spat out. Simple, self enforcing and makes juggling costly.

[@nchls1343]

3:00:36 I love how Pearl has embrace the way people use her door

[@PipBin]

the upgrade sound should be skizz shouting upgrade!

[@heatherreadsreddit8579]

Please no. There are enough loud noises in the game already, e.g., loud phone ringing & a loud clang when a new customer arrives. Adding Skizz screams would truly make me not want to watch.

[@janea.5893]

Been religiously watching Tango’s livestreams since decked out 2 and only knew now that he was an actual game dev outside minecraft at 1:53:23

[@owowarrior864]

5:37 "bdubs is getting sad, which is a little bit typical" cue bdubs crying noises 5:45 bdubs is getting impatient. angry growl.

[@J55_ZR]

I've been using the Hungry Hermits soundtracks for studying during my finals, it's a great study song!

[@refillpan]

is it original music or from somewhere?

[@J55_ZR]

@@refillpan There's a playlist on spotify

[@ahiggy583]

@@refillpanI think Tango got someone to make it for him! :)

[@refillpan]

@@ahiggy583 omg how cool

[@Alkymos]

Dunno if this is helpful but I got a couple ideas for all the rules you were discussing: -Rule for items on the farm: Everything used and produced on the farm can also be stored there. This includes buckets and bottles since both can be used and don't give a significant advantage. -Putting something in the crafter means you want to craft something soon. If you want to automate it, detect items in it and start a 30sec timer. If no crafting has started by then cause a flood. -When someone dies make them respawn by the chests. They will be out for the rest of that round and can be let back in by their teammate at the end of the day. The person who died has to lock back up before entering the restaurant and starting a new day. If there are any flaws please tell me.

[@heatherreadsreddit8579]

I prefer for the teammate to be able to rejoin if they die. If they can’t, then it’s a high percentage of failure. It’s still a time penalty if they die, because they have to return and usually finish what they were doing.

[@Alkymos]

@@heatherreadsreddit8579 Also a very good point. I think respawning, locking back up and then your teammate can let you back in during the round would be really good aswell since it costs both of you time as a penalty but you are not out of the game right away.

[@toneadk46er46]

One idea is keeping decorared pots in the farm. Each empties into a dropper where if you push a button, you get a single item. You can add items back to the pot to store more, but they are limited to specific farm items, bonemeal, dog treats.

[@potatow9888]

Upgrade idea: an upgrade that when the day ends one/two non restaurant food (ie: steak, mushroom soup) will drop in the lobby giving them a saturation boost before starting the day

[@nickbreen3100]

Would be cool, but I remember tango saying he's out of Redstone room to put in more upgrades. He'd have to replace an existing upgrade.

[@Teh_Duck]

@@nickbreen3100 there is currently an open spot since he removed the farm passthrough and counter upgrades. He added the extra item frames and if the food came from the ceiling of the lobby there is room for redstone there.

[@nickbreen3100]

@Teh_Duck oh cool I missed that it seems. All for this change then. Hopefully it gets enough likes that would be a neat upgrade.

[@Los_Deezy]

Tango is the best. Makes these insanely awesome games for the hermits that provide them with fun times and great content.

[@user-pw5do6tu7i]

1:25:23 this whole game was just tango making a hermit powered crop farm

[@gyerekecskee]

Beethos Bistro is the dream team

[@potato_opinion]

43:10 Jevin's references to LDShadowlady's Ocean Tour is pretty funny

[@gourami7926]

Hey Tango! A possible solution to the death consequence that's not as punishing could be some sort of re-entry chamber, in which locks are dispensed into the player's inventory and they are stuck for x amount of time delay before they're let into the restaurant. This would solve both the problem of people going back in without locks and provide a softer, not game-ending (but still severe) consequence to dying.

[@rebrough]

The autocrafter storage discussion seems to be solvable by making the rule: no taking items OUT of the crafter. when you complete a recipe, it spits it out on its own.

[@zorod5475]

Glad to hear watching this channel helps tango out.

[@dbuck4602]

Crafter rule: "If you put anything in the crafter, it can not be removed other than by crafting." This removes the possibility of using it for storage.

[@justrecentlyi5444]

Regarding the discussion around 3:26:00 about re-locking after dying, could you set up their spawn room so that there's a container with the correct number of locks, and only if they've emptied the locks would the door open? I think the biggest challenge would be accounting for the slot upgrades, which might not even be possible I guess. If it's infeasible, you could just make it a gameplay-enforced rule where you lose your unlock slots upgrade if you die during a run. In that scenario, say Etho is playing with Jevin. They get the slot upgrade so they're rocking 3 slots. However, Etho dies in the freezer. When he respawns, Etho goes back to only having 2 unlocked slots. Although you could also just make it work on the honor system as well with stacking one of the locks in the player's inventory so it doesn't matter too much. TL;DR: I think a respawn room that forces players to pick up the appropriate number of locks before re-entering the game would be enough reminder that in practice, any player who dies in the game would re-lock before resuming.

[@harizwain4969]

I think death makes you not able to continue for that day is fine and they can join the day after. Dying is already a penalty for the other person and if the person in the kitchen able to finish that round just think of it as a new employee

[@selinesbeau]

The Hungry Hermits song has become my brain's background music.

[@filbertovandette]

Tango....the games you make do one thing that I cannot thank you enough for.....they bring the hermits together...

[@waldllwyn139]

3:06:46 The discussion about the hopper minecart in the back should be a travaler's llama with limited space and the ability to spit at the farmer

[@connork71]

For the automatic crafter, what about a two button redesign? Have a glass block door in front of the crafter which opens when button 1 is pressed. However, button 1 also unlocks a hopper below the crafter prior to opening the door in order to dispose of any previously stored items. Button 2 then can activate the crafter as normal in order to craft items. For extra cheekiness, have disposed items filter back into the rat system.

[@lruddy8820]

tango: i dont think anyone is that dumb to fall into the hole bdubs: of course we're that dumb

[@aghjbh]

Personally I think a minecart should just run and clear the farm floor and the crafter should auto empty into the trash at the end of a day. I think that would be enough to stop people from storing too much in the ground.

[@AshleyThePie]

I upvote this, simple and effective

[@WimdyFoxen]

my favorite thing about hungry hermits so far is that the game can be watched and is different in any perspective. I watched cleos video which covered some of these games, scars stream live and tango vod for all fo these games and the games all had a different and unique feel. watching a spectators vs farmer vs server is genuinely interesting

[@J55_ZR]

How does Tango do redstone when everyone is talking is amazing to me...

[@HeatherKraafter]

I will admit, it drives me bonkers trying to hear Tango explain the issue or talk to chat while the hermits are jabbering. But him being able to redstone during that jabbering is MIND BLOWING!!!

[@milliondollaquestion8777]

you could add a filtered minecart that goes round the farm, fill in 5 slots with different banned product in each slot. Maybe have 2 that go round and prioritise the crafted items

[@KhanuuG]

I'm not sure how much you read these comments. But I have to strongly disagree with Etho re: dying during a run. I would argue that if you die, you can go back in at the beginning of the next day. This isn't a survival horror game. It's a tense cooking strategy game. If you're worried about people dying to reset food, not being able to come in til the next day negates any benefits that dying would give you. If you're worried about people coming back in without relocking, they're more likely to remember if they have to wait out the day without the stress of trying to get back in and keep the run going. It's fairly common in multiplayer games for death to only temporarily disadvantage the run because the point is for you to play the game with your friends, not sit there and watch them play by themselves because of bad luck.

[@justrecentlyi5444]

@@KhanuuG I agree that dying shouldn't invalidate a run, I don't think that mortal peril should be a game-ending threat. I think his point about using death to reset hearts and saturation could easily be abused, and that should be accounted for. One idea I had for that was for the path back in after respawning during a round should be threatening (a few wither roses for example) which guarantees that players go back in with a low saturation and/or down some hearts so that you're unlikely to benefit from dying intentionally.

[@TheBeardyBestMest]

You could putt silenced Allays in the Farm area that picks up cooked food and bottles and trows them in there «nest» They could be called crows. One for etch items that is not supposed to be in the back 😊

[@soomi]

Cleo doing the shulker bluehegheugh sound around 1 hour and 6 minutes should be on a horn in Cub's shop lol

[@4203105]

55:50 Powering both those droppers is going to cause problems when you get two pulses directly after another. So the exact same situation you were trying to fix. The right dropper will kick an item over on the first pulse. On the second the right one will kick another one over, but the left one will also kick one back, leaving you one item short.

[@4203105]

To fix this you could just move the block, with the redone dust on top, one block up and remove one honey block. (and remove the natural stone on top of the dropper to remove bud issues)

[@interesting9688]

I was thinking this as well.

[@bearpawdgamr2785]

Proud VOD enthusiast here! Surprise health inspector was absolute gold

[@TackerTacker]

I think the rule for the farm area can be quite simple: Only things that are used in the farm area can be left on the ground in the farm area.

[@4203105]

3:52:30 still think pearl's idea of more farm land would be a good upgrade.

[@naomithornhill2079]

34:07 I love how tango is having a wholesime moment with his wife, and everyone is just freaking out and struggling in the background 😂 Love your wife's crafting; beautiful

[@MechbossBoogie]

Should nametag the health inspector. New game feature. Was playing plate-up while watching the vod. Got Turkey fully automated. Dishes and everything. I cooked lunch while the game played itself.

[@axaentertainment]

Id love to see a cooking royale game with as many hermits possible all playing a regular game just to see how many days they could get through. The communication would quickly become a nightmare nearing day 8 and it would be hilarious.

[@colleenlavigne2196]

Hey Tango, thank you so much for making this awesome game. So many hours of hermit interaction VOD content for the holidays! It’s really helpful for those of us who need the extra entertainment to deal with holiday stress/family.

[@sanautin]

Tango, save yourself the headache and just put up a couple of signs saying the rules are whatever Pearl and Etho dictate them to be. I mean, you've already given them the ear of the king and declared them The Dream Team...gee, I wonder who's gonna win this. 😂😂😂

[@jkgaming3856]

Petition for tango to wear his glasses every stream 👇

[@williamhart7955]

I love the idea that in the fast food industry, rats are common and each one that you see you get into a fight to the death where you are just punching it with your bare first

[@lyvaellaevans]

All the time spent, all the resources used, all the brain power invested in an amazing game and you could have easily entertained the Hermits with a simple click items from a chest game. lol I love you guys so so so so much!! lol

[@WeepingHoney]

I’m not much of a livestream guy so VODs suit me well. Good to know it’s helping out so much.

[@DiddyRiese]

Great video and great gameTango! Regarding the pot idea at the very very end of the vide: You're currently using pots for trash.. I think it would be confusing to have some pots destroy items and some store them.

[@nebulaink]

The game over sound going off with the item frames poofing is really fitting. Those are the heaviest item frames in the game haha. The music for day 5 was a jammer!

[@tona11Qapik]

19:00 Cleo falls into the noodles

[@NordicViking83]

HOMEDELIVERY would be something. Just add an extra customer but standing, loose just points if not served.. 😁👍👍

[@HorizenMC]

1:40:31 What if there was a system to exchange a pumpkin for a melon, or something of similar value like food from the game/ordering terminal and trade that for a melon or pumpkin, assuming one or the other has not grown and is needed.

[@JohnPatchesMicallef]

i think an "oven timer" could be a good 'poopy upgrade'. An oven timer being like an audible countdown/shout 30 seconds after someone presses a button. So it would be useful in that it can let players know when food will be ready from the campfire, but it's triggered manually and is ultimately only useful for moderately useful for non-new players.

[@Dean0Dude]

you could make it so there's a respawn button that's available to the other player to press to respawn there team mate back in for the cost of say 4 game points. The the door will reopen. But make it so they can only respawn them back in at the end of the day.

[@yzaberriez]

3:24:21 i think the dying part and not being able to play is not a good idea, imo. although it has some sort of unbalancing for the game, it will cost more than you thought it will be (e.g. they need someone to push the button for the freezer, it'll cost them to lose the game just because they don't have a partner to let them out). if picking up locks is the issue i think it's better to force them to get the appropriate number of locks in a chest or barrel so they can enter the game again.

[@nickcampbellrealtor]

Those redstone bug diagnostics are top tier

[@justmarcus33]

So me and the girlfriend were putting together dinner, and I'm just unconsciously humming and she's like... marcus what is that humming.....it was the hungry hermits music. That tune lives in my brain, well done whoever did the music

[@DugSundance]

2:49:00 “I might be out too” at the midpoint of the stream lol

[@kevinenglund4836]

I really think you should move the high scores over to the side and call them BETA or something...and open the score board up for the game with the changes you made.

[@jim7704]

i hope when the hermits are required to stand on the phone to listen to it, it will play a random voice of a hermit ordering their real life favorite food

[@ProfDanilloNogueira]

@1:55:00 Scar ranting about the beetroots situation comparing it to Dwight Schrute is awesome!!

[@jaek95]

Idea for emergency melons/ pumpkins, use the old system that you had for the trash pots. (that you have to keep a button pressed for some time to get an item). Alternatively have a pressure plate that you have to stand on for 10-15 seconds to get one, that way it is so slow that it shouldn't be the default option and getting other foods for personal consumption would be faster. Just a minor recommendation, make the blocks that surround the water for the crops glass blocks, to avoid any accidents. If two customers are served in such a way that the piston that sets the timer for checking for the correct food is only pressed once, would that mean that players could get a free pass for an incorrect food as the correct food hopper gets two items but only one signal to drain it is sent? This is not game breaking as it is a benefit to the player and quite obscure. Similarly, if the two droppers that were installed in the correct food system get a signal when one item is already in the second one would not have two items as both would fire for a net 0 exchange. The could lead to the same bug? I love that the hermits managed to find so many different ways to die. Just watching the different pairings and how they play is so great. I know that this would be technically difficult, but if hermits struggle to get to day 8 after a lot of tries, introducing some way to get two upgrades in a day (possibly for some other penalty or long task during the day? (spend points?)) could help as for the later days you almost need a lot of the upgrades to survive but have no way of getting enough of them in time for when you need them. (more bonemeal for beetroot soup, faster crafting for cake and honey, item frames for storage, inventory slot and such). I think that it is an interesting idea but it would require quite a few changes to the current system. I also love the game discussion that you had at the end with Etho and Pearl, just hearing the thoughts and considerations are very interesting to listen to.

[@rubenbaltazar]

For the death issue, a "easy" solution could be that the teamate would have to pay a certain amount of food to let someone rejoin the game. It creates a new event, it creates a buffer timer for people to remember relocking and prevents people dying for reseting hunger.

[@soto4870]

i had an idea about the water hazard: what about theres a chance, like 25%, of water hazard comes with a pufferfish. you can still take the 75% chance when it is desperate, but still pulling pufferfish is too much of a risk and annoyance to ignore. the issue is, picking it up with water bucket then put it in a bin, seems too much. so im still not sure

[@hazeljoy1]

I think an interesting upgrade could be to automatically be dispensed some high level ingredients once in a while. Good for stockpiling ingredients over time for free, no immediate impact. Gives a push and pull reason to secure or skip it

[@Char2936]

Pearl and Etho looking so hardcore in the thumbnail 😂😎

[@hlauterb2011]

It would be cool to have a berry bush in the upgrade room for the guys to have food to regen health between rounds. It can’t be used in any recipe plus it’s a throw back to decked out :)

[@simonrmerton]

For the farm sign: No cooked, crafted or freezer items may be dropped on the farm floor. Personally, though, I think anything being dropped on the farm floor is fine, as long as it’s the same for everyone. It’s simpler, more fun, and allows for the development of interesting strats. A simple rule for the crafter could be that players are only allowed to place items in the crafter, never to remove them from it.

[@playingpeppers5092]

For the dying thing: making it so that the teammate has to come get you seems fine an "easy" to implement. Just make the bed a box only able to open with a button from the outside (like the freezer)

[@german_novotiable]

I ve a got a very interesting idea. When it's flooding a water by a chance can break a piece of redstone which opens iron doors to customers (replace doors with irone one and a new bunker/underground for electronics/redstone). And hermits need to fix the redstone to open doors again.

[@AtrophM]

1:41:41 Tango for the melons if you give the stem all for points to grow it might help as they try to grow to the block space so if it is occupied by another stem then that chance falls and it restarts it cycle. Might help avoid adding another system.

[@Nysteria]

By "Stuff that belongs in the back" I think it's better explained by "Any item that is acquired from the back, or any item that has a use at the back"

[@benlime1235]

The way Scar said 'I'm still in the freezer'!

[@AlecSzander]

Hi, I don't post much, but when I do, everyone can ignore. In case it does not get ignored. I thought about a potential solution for the items being dropped in the farm. 1st Suggestion(easy):Have stationary minecarts that pick items up in some specific blocks, so players have to identify where it is safe to drop items, and then they have to choose the items that go on specific safe blocks. In the first rounds this should not become punishing for players, but later when they have to move fast, they will probably start to make mistakes and drop the wrong items in the wrong places. At least that is how I saw from the VODs, players randomly chuck items, adding this function will require of them some planning and reactions in the farm part. 2nd Suggestion(hard): Split the land into parts(for example 4x4 blocks) that have underneath them minecarts that pick items up at random times, instead of rats, call it moles, because it is a farm. At first it is slow, but each time it picks them up, it increases the chance of minecarts being released in random parts of the farm. This does not stop players dropping the items, but makes them think about if they want to risk dropping the items now, or later. Dog(or any station that has functionality) - add stationary minecarts that players need to actively avoid when dropping items, just avoid enough to allow players get the bonemeal from the dog. Sorry for the wall of text. I enjoy the VODs.