TANK ABBOTT DRAMA | WEIGHING IN

[@OGShmurda]

Tank Abbott clearly said he has beef with John McCartney, not John McCarthy

[@vlada]

Big John does look like Paul.

[@jayoray-ru7vh]

😂

[@meatrocket6979]

@@vladaur actually right he does kinda look like Jake Paul when John was younger

[@joerenner8334]

I would thought it would be Ringo. No one likes Ringo.

[@brendanjones3235]

@@meatrocket6979 god I hope you're trolling.

[@tank.abbott]

This is Tank Abbott. I’m telling the truth! As always! Big John and these fools are utterly spewing nonsense. It’s so easy to do! I’m here to say, I will come on this show and prove it! Set it up! I would like to see what they have to say. In turn, I will tell the truth! 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m waiting for you to get ahold of me! Sincerely, Tank All you big John lovers see if he gets ahold of me! I feel an excuse is coming!

[@PinkuStyle]

Let's make it happen!!

[@timbuffington5717]

You are clearly a narcissist dude you're not God man. You act like you're the best thing that ever happened. And by the way get out that lie detector test so we can all watch you fail miserably

[@branteckelbarger2632]

Get him on!

[@joeybenoit9406]

You the man Tank!❤

[@feardarkson7095]

Yessah Tank let the truth be known we fully support u 💯💯💯

[@BernhardBernard]

It is ironic that John would stand up every Tank fight but let Dan Severn lay on top of his opponents for 20 minutes straight 😅

[@Notbobby159]

Watch the pete Williams vs Coleman fight, the fence grab rule was there and ignored to allow Williams to keep the fight standing, Tank makes good points

[@theDavidChannel1]

Tank getting robbed of two UFC tournament championships is LIFE ALTERING shit. I don't blame him for being salty.

[@madsocsci]

Considering what he robbed people of by beating them unprovoked in huntington beach bars, it's the least karma could take away from him...

[@rockscousteau]

I always saw John McCarthy as a dumber version of Tito Ortiz. 40 IQ Former Cop with flat feet that could not even dribble a basketball without blowing a knee out. John McCarthy is a TOOL.

[@frederick6570]

​@@madsocscicope

[@madsocsci]

@@frederick6570 I'm fine thanks. Tank - not so much. Sorry you take a scumbag for a hero/idol. I'm sure I'd hate to meet your dad.

[@oldironsides4107]

@madsocsci Unprovoked? If there is a guy known for fighting anywhere let alone in a big city.snd you manage to catch an ass whooping by him You didnt innocently stumble upon an ass beating. Like he’s known for

[@natemarx4999]

David Feldman needs to get Tank and Big John together for a BKFC match. This beef needs to be settled.

[@chiquita683]

Put them on the Tyson vs Paul card

[@ryansaguros2522]

didn't you hear what John, tank got a lot of complications. he will die before he throws a punch

[@natemarx4999]

@@ryansaguros2522 Boy - you sure are fun at parties 🙄

[@ryansaguros2522]

@@natemarx4999 well, I really am. We should have a beer sometime. We can talk about the 90s to the present and anything in between.

[@meatrocket6979]

@@chiquita683but it’s kinda unfair gervontay tank Davis is so much smaller than John but I would watch

[@zachpolsin5001]

John's fake laugh is horrible... Guilty

[@DoctorLogic-gt1qu]

Tank was a bully. Look at him now, karma is a bitch.

[@thazritesuka]

Very arrogant

[@watchmanonthewall14]

I'm older than Big John. I remember the reputation Tank had in Huntington Beach. I hoped that I would never run into him on the streets. He was a mean, angry man who wanted to fight all day long with anyone. He bragged about KO'ing people in bars. He was a menace. Yes, he was an alcoholic, BUT, not all alcoholics are violent. It's part of his nature. When he fought in the early days, I listened very carefully to what he had to say in interviews, and I studied his mannerisms. The vibe I always got was that he was an UNSTABLE individual, at best. When Vitor cleaned his clock, I could not be happier. The angry bully got stopped in his tracks. Tank went to a lot of HB bars, but there was one that he was fond of, and that's one of the bars where he was fighting and many cops were called and they arrested him. PD knew him WELL. That bar has since gone out of business and has been replaced by a restaurant, but whenever I drive by the building, I think of Tank.

[@hawaiianrussian1047]

True, for the most part Tank was just a bully that loved beating people up and he didint care if it was in a cage or not. He has literally admitted multiple times that his favorite fights were in bars. Naturally his alcoholism was bound to catch up to him.

[@watchmanonthewall14]

@@hawaiianrussian1047 Yes, sir.

[@bshasnki100]

@malus1426that’s like a seeing Bigfoot

[@dinbachok6424]

​@malus1426 almost all domestic violence in my country caused by alcohol or drugs.

[@joeyservo]

I listened to the whole Rogan podcast, Tank clearly spent the entire time rationalizing all of his choices he made, as if they were out of his control. The guy didn't learn ANYTHING from decades of alcoholism.

[@Mojo_Jo_Jo_]

I like how big John clearly has an ego and doesn’t acknowledge that part 🤣 it’s funny too how he’s talking reckless about Tank now because he knows his health is bad.

[@PittheadX]

Tank would still beat John's lardy butt.

[@dalec4864]

Big John was a Gracie follower at that time, it is how he got the job and being that the first UFC was invented to be a commercial for Gracie jiu jitsu I do t find it hard to believe that big John was invested in the Gracie name being pushed forward. Also what Tank said about big John standing him up before that was even a rule is true, that was the first time anyone was stood up for lack of action and there were some long ass boring ass fights before that that never got interrupted. The ufc didn’t like Tank, that’s a pretty established fact. I don’t think anything Tank said was out of line or some crazy conspiracy personally.

[@81ghale]

I’m kind of with this same line of thinking. I’m sure Tank got some things wrong, both accidentally from being smashed drunk all the time, and maybe purposefully just out of not liking John, but I can see it playing out the way he said pretty much. For the reasons you said, and you have to remember John was/is a cop. They know how to talk in circles and get people misdirected to make a conversation go a certain way they want. I think both guys were right and wrong in different instances more than likely. I don’t call Tank’s whole side of story bunk just because he got some things out of sequence, he was drunk ALL THE TIME 😂 of course he’s going to get the timeline screwed up, but like he said most of what he’s talking about is on tape.

[@jerm13088]

Listening to what a drunk said who didn't know his limitations and had demons he dealt with by being basically mean and evil to anyone who did something he didn't agree with. John has good cause to hold a grudge but yet he has never brought this up until Tank started talking. People who were there at the time also back up Johns statements. Literally No One has backed up Tanks stories. So it is hard to believe that the UFC hated a guy they kept bringing back to fight and still run highlights of his and John hated a guy he hung out with AFTER all these instances happened. Alcohol and depression affect memory and emotions after excessive use and without treatment.

[@DoctorLogic-gt1qu]

Tank was a bully. Look at him now, karma is a bitch.

[@Joe-sk5kp]

Lol you just broke news.

[@hereticlife2546]

Well neither her big John nor Tank Abbot were at UFC 1. So whatever its purpose was it has no bearing on their relationship

[@bobbyadkins]

Don’t forget Tank and John were both in the 1997 Friends episode.

[@wadewilson-xi1zs]

True

[@HECKSTER69]

Seriously ?

[@stephengallagher2209]

Thst's the gayest MMA factoid ever.

[@stephengallagher2209]

That's the gheyest MMA factoid ever.

[@mallslim2234]

@@HECKSTER69 Yeah, the one where Monicas boyfriend got involved in mma

[@johnsambo9379]

It's pretty obvious John's family was very involved in the UFC. Tank has had five strokes and a liver and kidney transplant. Cut him slack. I doubt either one of these guys could fight for 17 minutes straight in one fight. Not to mention that was his third fight of the fight.

[@Joe-cp5ud]

Maybe Tank should have thrown John out of the cage.

[@SeymourButtz-ee6ow]

I'm on Tank's side

[@wigzzborz6759]

His story makes way more sense

[@Schelosk]

I was right there the last time Big John saw Tank. Ross Kellin, Jessica Borga, myself and Coach Hinkleman all wanted to meet Tank. Big John walked us over Tank was a complete gentleman with Big John and the rest of us. I don't know anything other than they were very nice to each other.

[@newbluerugby]

This podcast is a sleeper. There’s no fluff, all real info, lots of great historical stuff we’d otherwise never hear. When they speak, I listen. Subscribed

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

Sub to the Jaxxon podcast. All the mma guest you can think of

[@RowdyGrunt]

Well said dude! I was thinking exactly that when your comment popped up!🤘

[@frankwalsh1916]

I like it, but they always overrate fighters outside of the UFC.

[@frangalvez6987]

Its good but i do believe sometimes they are a bit too subjective

[@newbluerugby]

@@frankwalsh1916 if u think about it, ufc fighters have historically done not too well after leaving the organization (besides Mighty Mouse), & when outside fighters come in later in their career they dominate. But I get what you’re saying. I think a lot of us who listen to media inside this bubble aren’t used to hearing about fighters outside the UFC anyway, we hear it, but just not as much

[@Holidaykills]

I believe tank. John for sure hated tanks attitude, remember John was a cop,of course he'd hate the lawless tankster. Plus I know for a fact he was a Gracie nut rider.

[@martyfromnebraska1045]

Most people dislike drunks.

[@rocknroll6396]

​@@martyfromnebraska1045most people dislike cops

[@iLoveBIGTdsn3s]

I see both sides of this. Tank was an admitted drunken menace. However, John obv was biased. John habitually stood up Tank's fights while he'd allow Dan Severn to lay on folks for 20 mins++. I'm not a Tank fan, but the man has a point about that. Standing him up possibly cost the man 2 UFC championships. So, Tank has a legit reason to be salty, IMHO.

[@rockscousteau]

I listened to everything Tank said. I think Big John has like a 40 IQ...and is doing the best he can with the marbles he has to work with. Scary the guy was a cop. Giving a gun to a guy that dumb............bad move

[@NOTFansofJohnDriver]

John was a police officer tank is a sheriff cop scum bag

[@scambaitnaansense512]

The Michael Vick betting ad 😆

[@theskateboardfan]

Vick the dog fighter😅

[@shable1436]

I'm from Virginia, and was there when both brothers went through tech, Mike was hooking up with underage girls right and left, he even faced charges for it. He was protected by all the higher ups in the county

[@jaason101]

I have heard several fighters say stuff about John McCarthy. I think John was kind of a know it all type about martial arts, but in fairness many people were. The early days were styles against styles. Tank was a mad man and the first 5 mins he was hell. I do think Tank was the first to do gloves. He was also the first to use the fence. I always rooted for Tank. I was at the UFC event where he fought Steve Nelmark. Thought he killed Nelmark

[@JPW328]

Big John is spot on, but I’m surprised you didn’t mention Don Frye throwing a fight to be able to beat Tank in the finals. It actually it happened 2x to Tank. He got screwed by managers fixing fights so they were fresher in the finals while Tank was gassed from the previous match.

[@JPW328]

18:54 I spoke too soon 😅

[@wookiepie2285]

That is how it was done in the initial shows. Compare Royce Gracie's series of opponents in ufc 1 to the guy he faced in the finals.

[@JPW328]

@@wookiepie2285 the UFC only had a couple confirmed confirmed worked fights. And it was the managers. But the UFC’s way of fixing fights was brilliant favoritism matchmaking.

[@Aloha_Bama]

Tank never said Frye greased his ankles, He said his foot was slippery,

[@RoseBold919]

John should be the first ref in the hall of fame fr!

[@jorgepereira1042]

True

[@jeremiahfreitag5242]

Hes not in the ufc hall of fame?? Dam I guess I just assumed he was.

[@RoseBold919]

Yea he’s not because of Uncle Dana

[@winntheriot9837]

He sucks, so no.

[@erikhantariq1913]

@@winntheriot9837he’s the best mma referee

[@tank.abbott]

Let me know, set it up! Get ahold of me. We can do it!

[@TimeMariner]

Your story is amazing to me. No kidding, you've always been my favorite fighter & I thank you for the entertainment you've given us at the expense of your health. Keep rolling Big Dog!

[@treadstoned9915]

You da man Tank!

[@codycardin]

Memory has much less to do with what actually happened. And more to do with validating our current self. Every time you remember something, you change it a little little bit, but over time that little bit, becomes quite a bit. This is why eyewitness testimony is garbage and shouldn't be trusted. Also, Tank thinking John is out to get him, John represents authority and i dare say Tank perceives all authority over him as unjust. And John was a copper.

[@meatrocket6979]

@malus1426it’s crazy how shitty John treated tank I mean I believe tank he’s an honorable honest man it really shows John’s true colors

[@vincentvandervelden3554]

Absolutely true and well verbalized Thugs and cops historically don't get along

[@vincentvandervelden3554]

@@meatrocket6979 tank is a thug

[@equallyeasilyfuqyou]

💯 Good comment

[@Dukestboy96]

​@@meatrocket6979 honourable. Not sure that's true. Like John said he had to implement various rules due to tanks horrible dirty tactics

[@frankl2634]

I had a conversation with John about Tank. John commented how smart Tank was. Odd that they have issues.

[@synthWizkid]

You guys are pitching a MICHAEL VICK betting site?! I'm starting to believe Tank.

[@joshcarter6297]

John you are legit AF, Josh tell him I said so please

[@castingstones]

I love Tank. Always have. I'm one of those fans from the mid 90s who was won over by his style and gimmick. But if one thing is extremely apparent, it's that Tank lives in his own reality. I'm sure he truly believes everything he says, but Big John comes across as legit as they come. I have NO DOUBT about anything McCarthy has to say here. Great podcast

[@RowdyGrunt]

As a senior citizen I remember everything from UFC 1 forward. All the other promotions that came around as well. John's amazing when he digs into the archives and starts bringing stuff back that even the old s*** heads can remember. This is awesome from a nostalgic standpoint, but disappointing to know that one of the most beloved characters of the sport isn't quite on the up-and-up on what he remembers. It is also sad that he's going through what he is, all we can do is hope and pray for the best outcome that he can possibly have.

[@watchmanonthewall14]

I was there from the beginning. Never liked Tank and rooted against him. But what's done is done. Today, I hold no ill feelings toward him. Hopefully, his senior years may make him a bit wiser.

[@Jimmyinthewell303]

Why did you stand them up ?

[@JPW328]

Without Tank Abbott we would’ve never known Tito Ortiz as the “Huntington Beach Bad Boy” 🤘😂

[@patrickoconnor9267]

John u need to sit down for the next 2 or 3 years and write this down because u come across as a very fair and honest man and I think you'd be very fair about everything that happened we need all this history to be recorded by people like you ❤

[@mattmorrison9379]

Right, a history of the ufc by Big John would be a great book.

[@watchmanonthewall14]

I posted here last week here, but what you just wrote made me think of something I should have included in my original post. By listening to Big John podcast after podcast, he has shown a PATTERN of accurate memory for small details of long ago. As opposed to Tank's pattern of having a "unique" perspective on past events. Tank's perspectives have always been "unique". One thing that both Tank and Big John do agree on is that those early tournaments had suspect matchmaking behind the scenes, to favor certain fighters in a tournament, as well as a couple of fights that were thrown.

[@sukesingh2099]

What about the time when Big John froze during the fight between Pat Smith and Scott Morrison. Thank God Pat stopped elbowing Scott on his own and stood up or that would have definitely ended in tragedy!

[@ChrisLoXFB]

I believe at that time, the only way a fight could be stopped was the corner throwing in the towel.

[@sukesingh2099]

@@ChrisLoXFB I'm not sure but I do believe other fights were stopped. I have to check. Good point

[@blueelephant4971]

Tank wrote three books, "Bar Brawler (2012)", "Street Fighter" (2019), and "Cage Fighter (2021)". In them he changes all the names to avoid lawsuits but with the more famous people you can tell who their alter ego is. For instance Art Davie is "Big Bart Shady" and John McCarthy is "Little Winchell Duncan". In these books he repeats everything he said on Rogan's show and lobs many other accusations as well.

[@rickylake12]

whose gym did he say tank was at in orange, california? i couldn’t understand/didn’t know of the name. anyone know??

[@rickylake12]

anybody know???

[@Sssensei11]

you guys should have played a clip of the Tank pod to better understand. i’m sure Joe wouldn’t mind lol

[@evanhughes3027]

John, well stated. I enjoy your retelling of events in such a professional manner. The frustration is obvious, but you struck the right tone. Josh, you've progressed so much from your earlier days in terms of your candor. You've got a bright future in broadcasting of any type, you handsome devil, you.

[@kiezersosay49]

Sus...

[@vlada]

Read this in Josh's voice and it's perfect.

[@meatrocket6979]

I think tank has a way better memory and recollection of the events that transpired so I tend to believe tanks side of the story

[@watchmanonthewall14]

@@meatrocket6979 I listened/watched intently to all fighter interviews back then, as I still do. Even in real time (1995) I could see that Tank always had a "unique" take on the events of that time period.

[@meatrocket6979]

@@watchmanonthewall14 but how do u know u weren’t there tank was actually there I’m pretty sure he remembered everything fine

[@1980bwc]

Ive seen many Tank fights. Never seen a single "McCartney" fight. 😂 Tank has interesting takes on things, and at times, comes off bitter. Usually when he tells you something though, he's telling you the truth. He's almost too honest for his own good.

[@Notbobby159]

The Coleman Pete Williams fight is one of the more obvious examples of selectively enforcing the rules against Coleman, it’s on video, he allow Pete to hang onto fence to prevent takedowns

[@MattWilliams-x7v]

“Go kick his ass” Tank: “hold my teeth.” 😂

[@kaimipono007]

Tank was a menace in public at local bars in HB Orange County he’s an adolescent power drinker and painted a picture on JRE episode crying like he was the victim and what he thinks what real fighting is. Professional fighters are in a legitimate legalized sport it’s not Jean Claud Van Damne’s Blood Sport Kumite! He’s talking about eye gouging and how someone reacts to something like that and it wouldn’t be a realistic thing to use an arm bar in that situation. He out dated himself with not physically keeping up with the level of competition that UFC evolved to. The sport out grew him plain and simple and he didn’t want change so he kept drinking and f**king up his own life just being an old drunk.

[@eriklarson9137]

English what? "he’s an adolescent power drinker"

[@martyfromnebraska1045]

​@@eriklarson9137 He acts like a child/teenager and drinks a lot. Fairly simple.

[@alugificator]

Yeah he said on JRE that he was beating up bullies in bars. Oh really Tank, all 200 of them deserved it? Pull the other one you degenerate.

[@watchmanonthewall14]

Yes, the infant sport (MMA) passed him by in only maybe three years. He failed to lose proper weight, and he needed to work on his cardio. And it seemed that he was not terribly interested in learning new techniques, both offensively and especially defensively. Have you watched the beating he took from Pedro Rizzo? I think that Vitor was the first fighter who exposed all of his weaknesses.

[@sirbrad4]

John McCartney is a "stand-up" guy.

[@jaylarose2925]

Thanks for covering this! I been wondering when you would respond since he went on Rampage's Pod.

[@cliffheard1970]

Thank you! The Jaxxon podcast was even better if you ask me.

[@meatrocket6979]

I can’t believe John was so against tank it’s crazy

[@DropFloat]

@@cliffheard1970 34:16 was a weird moment, does josh not like rampage and those guys or is it just not cool to hype other pods, as long as you listened it should be cool to shout them out right?

[@walkinphoenix45]

BJ: “That’s how he got the stupid name.” Nice one. You trash the guy and he did everything wrong and you were an innocent. Yeah sure.

[@Rich_7755]

20:23 you are clearly not being totally honest here John. I get why, because it involves your wife. I’m just sharing how very obvious it is.

[@TheDogDad]

Hmm Big John is one of the most respected men in MMA & basically helped create it. Tank was a fighter who shit talked everyone, had a bad relationship with every organization he was in, and damn near killed himself with lifetime abuse of drugs & booze. I think I'll side with Big John on this.

[@stevend481]

I don't

[@asmile949]

Well said

[@watchmanonthewall14]

DogDad, you laid it out pretty well.

[@redshift0000]

Yall really just played a micheal Vick ad? Gtfo

[@josheisert8380]

So he shows a picture of his wife and tank together to prove tank was lying about he and her not getting along. Then later tells the story about tank and her getting into it and tank telling her he will fn kill her to prove tank was lying about that incident. Let that really sink in if it hasn't come to ya yet.

[@MrJaybeezy123]

Come on guys...Michael Vick? Lost tons of respect.

[@WeighingIn]

Oh, cuz you never fucked up and didn’t deserve a second chance? He also has done a ton of work to stop dog fighting and helping spread awareness about dogfighting to our youth. Get over yourself buddy. Josh Thomson

[@MrJaybeezy123]

@@WeighingIn clearly touched a nerve, Joshy. Sure I've fucked up. I've forgotten birthdays, been late, hurt someone's feelings, etc. I've never fought dogs to the death. DOGS. You got a dog, Joshua? Do you give pedos a second chance? Murderers? Thieves? Yikes.

[@johnanderson1818]

He said! She said! Who the f#ck cares! Who do you believe! Big John and Tank, are both legends! I'm just happy that, they are both still around! 💯

[@theironforce3000]

I'm glad there's a follow up to that interview he did with Joe. Thanks guys.

[@adamabbas1487]

Mma fighters, especially back then are not normal people. You kind of have to be to do what they did. I think they have questionable judgement and I would take Johns word over tanks any day.

[@watchmanonthewall14]

Exactly.

[@cosmicatrophy4648]

John, tell us the story behind "Hey Jude" 😂

[@WylieKoyote]

When you're a drunk u don't remember much 🙄

[@watchmanonthewall14]

Or, you remember things in your own "unique" way, as Tank has ALWAYS done.

[@greenbandanamusic]

Was waiting for this one 😁💯

[@williamRE]

To be fair, John's wife did not look happy in that picture with tank 😂

[@cliffheard1970]

JOSH, you need to go watch his interview on Rampages podcast. Jaxxon podcast. He had a lot more to say on there. He talked for over 2 hrs that day. He talked about John and Dana a lot that day. I would love to hear you and John’s thoughts on that one.

[@chrisw4192]

I wish y’all could squash this. It’s sad watching a grown man talk about his health yet drank himself there and Mr. M having to hear that again after 600 plus fights in the organization. We are to emotionally invested with our past failures. God Bless y’all.

[@TimeMariner]

John clearly had favorites & didn't hesitate to help them out.

[@guernica8487]

I watched the Tank pod on Rampage's channel and really wanted to hear from BJM on it. Never thought I would, awesome guys!

[@stevieo9909]

Dear John & Josh, I am a big fan of both you gentleman as people and of your online platform. However, I'm appalled by your advertisement (endorsement) featuring Michael Vick. His conviction for heinous animal cruelty crimes makes him a highly unsuitable representative for any brand. This choice reflects poorly on Weighing In and its values. I urge you to reconsider your representation choices and align with individuals who embody positive and respectable qualities. Thank you for your attention.

[@hussler1984]

Buddy, that was 17 years ago. Forgive the man and move on with your life

[@WeighingIn]

Vick has done more for animal cruelty because of the crimes he committed. I’m also someone who believes in second chances because I’ve been given such things in life way more than I should have or deserved. Josh Thomson

[@stevieo9909]

@@WeighingIn Living in Virginia, I have seen firsthand the extent and brutality of Michael Vick's actions. The horrors that occurred under his watch were not just incidents; they were meticulously funded and orchestrated by him. A person who derives pleasure from such barbaric acts-watching dogs tear each other apart and then disposing of them like trash-cannot be easily rehabilitated. This behavior was not driven by financial need; he was already a multi-millionaire. I remain deeply skeptical of his so-called efforts in animal welfare. Any actions he has taken in this regard seem to be court-mandated or attempts to salvage his tarnished reputation. It is highly naive to believe that someone capable of such cruelty could genuinely transform into an advocate for animal rights.

[@timsimpson6019]

Tank seems like someone that lies a bit… I mean he said he knocked out a pro boxer without any prior training… I doubt that. Especially considering how his hands looked during his fights. He’s one of those tough guys. That’s the vibe he gives off.

[@muriloninja]

Yeah, because KO'ing a pro boxer is impossible. /sarcasm Of all the things out of Tanks mouth, that one is the most believable.

[@zekayman]

An untrained person knocking put a pro boxer is pretty fucking unbelievable lol

[@greene_74]

He has a tape of him doing it 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@KillerInstinct2006]

An average Joe sure, but Tank was a legit athlete even if he didn't look it. He wrestled for most of his life and could bench press more weight than 99% of the population. Plus he had been in lots and lots of street fights. It's not that crazy to think he could catch a pro boxer, especially since we're talking about HWs here.

[@matthewthompson7697]

Big John associates himself with Josh Thomson, this situation speaks for itself 😂😂😂

[@coreyhaze2348]

BIG JOHN WAS THE WORST REF EVER re watch the fights, the guy SUCKED

[@scotty.1649]

28:09 should've had Tank autograph the poster and include "to my #1 fan" before you gave it to your dad

[@HercMMA]

best duo on yt 😛😛😛

[@joshshin792]

There's too much for John just to be playing innocent all the time. If standing the fighters up wasn't a rule why did he do it? That's huge in a fight. Fight altering and probably career altering honestly.

[@666ojeez]

McCartney...LOL

[@fahadkhaled9190]

Okay Josh & John…. Now get Tito’s response 😂

[@ryanmac8283]

Gatekeeping has been a problem in this country for a long time.Ive seen it first hand way too many times.

[@troyevans3000]

Tank Abott, other than his fighting abilities in the ring, is not someone who should be praised and idolized. He was an absolute bully with a nasty reputation. On Rogan's podcast he said everyone he fought deserved to be knocked out, no Tank, I'm sure many many of them were probably trying to protect themselves. Anyone who has on average, 2 fights a week is a manic narcissist.

[@richardpizzario3627]

Listening to John setting the record straight is always entertaining

[@troydwyer5147]

You guys have great content 👍

[@GhettoDetective]

28:34 Don greased his ankles ! Don usually fought wearing wrestling shoes but in Ultimate Ultimate '96, he fought bare footed throughout the whole tournament.

[@Murmaider512]

Drunktank Abbot

[@Steven-rp8zo]

I really admire the way big John is so easy going when someone like Tank talks trash about him. It's an admirable trait to have such little ego, just enjoy your life and not worry too much about what the haters think. As Mike Tyson said "I used to get offended and then I realized I'm a nobody. Now I don't get offended"

[@dinglbarry1275]

I watched Tanks interview on Rogan and through most of the interview I was on board with Tank and he was compelling, but at some point in the interview it became apparent that he has paranoid personality disorder. Everything is a conspiracy against him. And I even believed his story about John MCCarthy standing him up and then I sought out and watched that entire fight and Tank is full of crap on that. Most of the fight up until the point was on the ground and McCarthy had not stood them up until around the 15 minute mark. What destroyed Tank and winded him in that fight was a rear naked choke shortly before the stand up, which winded him to the point where both fighters were laying on the ground not doing anything... not trying to tap the other guy or tapping... and this is why McCarthy stood them up. Tank has an excuse for nearly all of his loses. And to listen to Tank now, Tank would have you believe that he was this big UFC fighting favorite but he lost nearly everyone of his fights. Most of the fights he won were against new fighters who were out of their element fighters. I watched the fights in those days and they would make this big fuss over the guy and he'd come out and lose like always. He's possibly the most overrated fighter in UFC history. And now I'm reading through these comment sections and commentors are straight up lying and saying, Tank is the reason why I got into UFC. Complete BS. Oh you mean the guy who lost nearly every fight was this big inspiration for you... they're lying. They're just saying that because it's the pc thing to say because Tank is doing his rounds.

[@bshasnki100]

There’s 2 sides to every story. And Tank was a drunk but no matter all the sh!t Tank did, he’s UFC Royalty 😂🤩

[@User-is2kf]

Big John should write a book. He has so many stories that would be great in a book.

[@Steven-rp8zo]

No!!! Then he would stop talking about it on the podcast, he's say "you can read it in my book" 🤣

[@KillerInstinct2006]

He has a book.

[@KillerInstinct2006]

He already wrote a book.

[@fourvetperrie457]

The cool thing about yt or social media. Ppl you watch all end up being pieces of crap 😂😂😂

[@AgentActive]

Everyone about to voice their complaints about Big John now

[@iankreegs]

No you did separate them when tank was on top and you cost him the fight admit it john

[@berserkberserk3493]

Guilty ,,looks shook and always touching his mouth and scratching his nose 😂

[@Steven-rp8zo]

These are great little sidebar episodes because there's a bunch of MMA opinion podcasts out now with guys giving their opinion on who's going to win fights and betting odds etc... but you guys are uniquely qualified to talk about the actual history of the sport with inside stories like this. Would love to see more like this. Josh, you should do one on why you think Frank Shamrock was such a jerk early in your career. I can't believe your own coach injured you before your first UFC fight. And please do one on the beef between you and Michael Chandler. This is the kind of real original content only you can tell.

[@Rumpl4skinn]

The thing is if you watched back then, its not that hard to believe. I think John went a long way to distance himself from back then, but some of those fights seemed pretty shady. Its not disputed that the ufc started as a jiu jistsu demonstration for the gracies, so i dont get why its that big of a stretch for what tank said.

[@cpt.obrien5455]

McCartney verifies Tank’s story on the tape. He even admits he checked up with people who “worked” in his hometown - meaning fellow law enforcement - so he’s basically saying tank made that up over a technicality. Most of what Tank has said about these things are stuff he stated in old fight mags from around 2000-2004 and multiple sherdog interviews and his stories haven’t changed. Watching all these old school guys talk about tank you can tell there’s a jealousy there. Tank was a guy that genuinely liked to fight in time where most guys just speculated and wished they were tough but they weren’t people who really liked to fight. Calling a guy a story teller for getting a date wrong from 30 years ago - nah.

[@Joe-sk5kp]

John never ever got in there. Regardless alcohol. He never got in the cage. Herb did. Feelers whatever he got in there . Josh got in there. The only appropriate reply is i never got in there. Big john all the fighters live in your head especially tanks because you wouldn't fight

[@That_ViperDude]

I live in Huntington Beach, what bar were you guys having lunch at?

[@dannybobby13]

I believe the fighters not the ref I think big John thinks his shit don’t stink and he’s never done anything wrong ever!! Yeah right dude

[@TheDogDad]

You sound like a minimum wage, high school dropout, with a criminal record. You know I'm right and Tank is a drama queen.

[@nycmaverick]

Hey guys as a dog lover it’s a bit shitty to see Michael Vick peddling goods on this show. Sorry to sound like a Karen but I’ve heard horror stories about how he treated bait dogs.

[@IratePirate28]

Dave Thomas? The Wendys guy in the UFC. Did realize he was slinging more than burgers.

[@scotty.1649]

24:30 It's Richard Istrico. Not Robert.

[@Misitos_]

For the people destroying me in the comments from the last video asking for a response 🖕

[@PeterGibbonns]

You think they did this specifically for you? Not because it went viral on Toe Brogan.

[@DGillian6406]

What a ghey u are!

[@meatrocket6979]

@@PeterGibbonnsare u related to the gibbons monkey?

[@watch_town]

I was wondering how long it was going to take for this to come out.

[@lettheflamestakeover7374]

Big John Mcarthy has always been one of my all time favorites, but Tanks story telling was hilarious. You guys should be friends😂

[@Psihikalmix]

So i pay for premium to not see ads and you guys add the ads in the video … not cool

[@isco4777]

was waiting for this one😅

[@devol01fm]

Tank is no bullshiter if that's how he felt than its true to him .

[@ricardo07jimenez]

John I caught you in multiple lies myself. You keep saying tank said this and didn’t. Tank NEVER accused Don fry of greasing his feet . He said usually they were wearing shoes and didn’t realize how slippery his foot would be and that’s why he lost the grip . John McCartney is such a cream puff

[@Keiiluminati]

Womp womp

[@stevend481]

God you are obsessed

[@JPW328]

Big John is a MMA HALL OF FAMER