Tank Chats

[@thetankmuseum]

Hey, Tank Nuts! We hope you enjoy this lasted Tank Chat on the Bulldog. Let us know your thoughts about this particular vehicle below.

[@lukasboscher9674]

Why not use the M113? Every country making its own vehicle is really expensive :( Now everybody is sending 20 of each to ukraine and they have a mess of different vehicles instead of 1 Nato standard :(

[@rickypalacios1554]

It looks like M-113

[@davidgoodnow269]

​@@lukasboscher9674 Steel is cheaper and far more easily repaired than foamed aluminum! The 432 could float to swim the vehicle as introduced, which was the U.S. excuse for the far more expensive material, so why go to the greater expense of construction at the cost of far more expensive repair? A better question is, why not the 432 instead of the M113? That probably goes down as, "Not made here," as many other things of the time, like the EM2 .280 British assault rifle. The U.S. M-14 had a troublesome development and the shortest life in general service of any rifle in U.S. history, but was the sole reason for forcing N.A.T.O. to adopt the 7.62×51 mm cartridge as its general service standard. Even the extremely comparable BM-59 adopted by Italy was vastly superior in a broad variety of ways, far more economical in development, adoption, and service, was in service faster, and had a much longer and more satisfactory life in service! The weaker armor protection the M113 hull provided (Try to crush a steel drinks can like the Japanese use for coffee, then try to crush an aluminum soda can or one of the newer aluminum beer or tea bottles. Much the same in effect.) quickly resulted in addition of bolt-on steel armor plates, which results in loss of floatation and a much higher ground pressure, and a whole series of alterations to suspension and gear boxes. Why not just get what you need more cheaply from the start, and avoid all of those additional expenses throughout most of the life in service, plus get more service life? M-14 versus BM-59 all over.

[@davidgoodnow269]

This is probably the tenth Tank Chat from The Tank Museum that I have watched, and I thank you. I thought the sequenced photographs used a couple of times in this episode were particularly good at creating an illusion of depth that was almost presence! If I make it to England to visit the Royal Museum, I am adding your museum as a side destination. Thank you for the enjoyment you have and I expect will continue to provide to me. Becoming a donor won't happen this month, but I am adding your museum to my rotation for budgeting. I am getting used to the request for patrons, and have a suggestion that might be accomplished in future editing. If the museum would knock together a bit of kit to suspend, swing, and pan the camera, and use that to do all sides of the vehicle, add a voice over introduction of variable duration of what is going to be covered, then segue to the Tank Museum patron bit, I think that would gain and hold interest and be less jarring. Please consider this.

[@lawrencecaile]

I drove the 432 ambulance variant for a couple of years, I even invented a tool to remove and replace the rubber bushes in the tracks, sent off my invention to the M O D who wrote back saying they were going too replace the track so my tool was not require, my colonel however gave me an Regimental Reward of 250 quid as the tool was being used by the Regiment and worked a treat, it set of a lot of the lads on the inventing path with some wierd ideas.

[@deejayimm]

That is cool. Alot of us don't have any stories like that. I just went to work after school.

[@4evaavfc]

Good on you.

[@lawrencecaile]

@@deejayimm You can find that a lot of x soldiers have some great stories to tell, there's never a dull moment in the forces.

[@deejayimm]

@@lawrencecaile I know, I've talked to a lot of them and it's definitely an adventure. Even guys that never see combat still had an adventure.

[@marcs990]

Hey Lawrence, is it the track pads that you are talking about?? I was in Germany with 1Div from 1990 to 1998, I did move from Verden to Herford and finished my time in BAOR in Hohne. I know these vehicles so well I used to be able to put my boot on the lug that holds the front hatch on then with no hands would walk up to get on top in pitch black darkness. Looking forward to hearing more about your invention

[@bill-wd7zs]

Ex 432 driver here, used to be in the Royal Engineers Hameln Germany. One of the lesser known things about a 432 is the sheer number of bottle opening points inside the vehicle. We were spoiled for choice!

[@mrpirate3470]

432 mortar fit... unlimited bottle stowage xD

[@firehawk333]

Greetings from Hameln 🙂👍

[@MALITH666]

Beats me why David is not knighted. Man is the Attenborough of Tanks. Been always listening to chats since I got introduced by Paul(Jingles) way back in the day.

[@davidwhite4874]

Attenborough is a script reader, this bloke, on the other hand, knows what he's talking about.

[@Rendaro]

@@davidwhite4874 Attenborough is a biologist. As in he has a degree and has worked in the field for over 70 years. The fact he dedicated much of his career to science education does not in anyway lessen his achievements. Do some research before you go spouting off blatant nonsense.

[@davidwhite4874]

@@Rendaro He's an actor, a script reader. Not a scientist.

[@fricklefart90]

@@davidwhite4874 you're a fool

[@latch9781]

@@Rendaro Clear example of David envy I think

[@Ubique2927]

My 432 is 50 years old. It has only had 5 new engines, 6 new tracks, 7 new machine guns and 5 sets of upgraded armour. Plus 25 new paint jobs.

[@Hybris51129]

The layers of paint are additional armor.

[@HanSolo__]

@@Hybris51129 Because it is made out of another material than the plates, it is a "Composite Armor" already.

[@Fastbikkel]

@@Hybris51129 Like using a sheet of paper to stop an incoming rhino mommy protecting her kids.

[@seansoraghan3245]

Triggers broom lol

[@boffingeorge]

​@@Fastbikkel Chobham armour is 50% composite armour

[@Jason-Thorne]

This thing will do some serious work in 38,000 years time!

[@gregs7562]

Haha. I see what you did there 😉

[@armholeeio]

There is a couple of FV432’s that have enough of my DNA via skin or blood the barstards got out of me while doing maintenance to be classed as a living relatives

[@johnhughes8016]

I too feel your pain.... my knuckles will never forget those b@stards.....

[@fus149hammer5]

Yup. If I look closely enough I can still see the difference in skin colour on my hands from when the spanner slipped as I adjusted the track tension.😳😫!

[@Megamix472]

I remember these, mobile oil leaks. Coming back after washing them down and painting them yet again. I think it was 1cm armour with 10cm reactive paint armour on top!

[@mattteee2973]

On the subject of paint... any ideas what the colour is on the ERA behind David in the vid? I've got a Land Rover someone painted in army paint that looks the same, but every time I've tried to touch it up I've ended up with something too yellow or slightly pink!

[@chaz8758]

I was on scheme and the O rings went on my pack, spraying oil out of the louvres and everytime I wet up hill oil coming out the back door as the hull was full under the floor plates. I had to drive from Hildesheim back to Hameln with my commander keep topping up the engine oil (used over 40 litres), had a big new Merc drive a bit close and got sprayed by oil the fan pack was dragging up and launching out

[@Ubique2927]

The amount of stuff and uses that the Royal Engineers put this vehicle to use with was never ending.

[@Twirlyhead]

And that's just the _official_ stuff 🚷

[@chaz8758]

Mine (03 ED 46 a Mk 2/2) always looked liked a "gyppos" wagon, kak hanging off it everywhere - made worse as I mostly drove the "Delta" vehicle with Ranger on the roof and towing the Barmine Layer. Then moved onto CV1 with the FV 436 (13 EA 79) when we swapped out our Sultans

[@rayjennings3637]

@@chaz8758 I remember doing a lot of development work on the layer when I was at Chertsey in the '70s.

[@captainscarlett705]

Who remembers putting tinned compo rations in the 432 exhaust to heat them up.? Had to be careful not to over do it otherwise you’d have exploding baked beans coming out 🤣

[@twowheelstouring482]

Nope we used BV's, but remember seeing a turd fly out of one when i was 3 vehicles back, luckily it flew out to the side!

[@chaz8758]

We wired them to the louvres, making sure to put a dent in the tin first - BV was for brews :-)

[@martingardener90]

Usually puched a fine hole in the tin and hung it down the pipe on a piece of welding rod, althought the beans usually had a bit of a barbeque taste!

[@MrNicktheBeat]

As a Detachment Commander with Recce Troop, 7 Sigs in the 1960's, I was issued a 432 to replace the Saracen FV610 Command Post. The fist thing we did , after driver training, was convert it to Signals spec which I believe effectively destroyed the NBC effectiveness. At first, we were a bit miffed at the change because we loved the old Saracen but, through time we began to appreciate the improvements the 432 brought to the job. One obvious bonus was that we never ever got bogged down again in soft standing. Also, apart from, the tracks, maintenance was also easier and they were generally quite reliable although I did suffer a couple of electrical fires and on one memorable occasion, ended up in a river after the steering failed. All in all, a good design which endured the test of time. Great video.

[@Pearmain2009]

The 432 is one of those largely unsung successes yet hugely important vehicle for the British Army. Another great success are these Tank Chats all of which are packed with great information on the subject vehicle imparted brilliantly by the staff. Another great chat thanks everyone.

[@tompiper9276]

This is what happens when you get it right to start with.. Some of the 432's were sold to the US and served in the national guard. Might still be going for all I know.

[@thehumancondition5764]

the tank museum might be the best youtube channel out there. Just bucket loads of good, entertaining and educating content. Can't wait to go back to the museum at some point

[@Wadi2004]

I work with a 432 at my local museum. Usually for "tank rides" during events. Thing is a beast. Most customers were shocked with the speed. Especially the kids lol

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

M O D: "432, you have to go." 432: "No. I don't think I will."

[@jimleffler7976]

I dig the Tank Museum, such nice people. Followed up on my orders, made sure I got everything and was happy. Definitely recommend them and thank you for the frequent videos, very informative

[@fus149hammer5]

Agreed. If you live in the UK or visit from overseas and you can get there the museum is a must. I live 100 miles away and visit at least twice a year. A 200 mile round trip is well worth the effort.

[@mikeandhev]

I really enjoy listening to David giving these lecture quality tank chats, always very informative and he really knows his subject matter. Top bloke!

[@latch9781]

The Bulldog; While the Centurion and Chieftain had nose jobs and facelifts, the FV432 went for the a reverse lipo

[@davidfortier6976]

I think they call that a "brazilian butt lift".

[@dondouglass6415]

I drove the diesal versions of the 1980's while serving in the REME in BAOR. I'd love to try the newer version. It's wonderful that this vehicle has given so much service. Huzzah!!!

[@andrewdunn9307]

Drove and Worked on 432s for many many years. My undying memory of this is climbing up the front and slipping then hitting your shin on the front edge. Go on how many of you recall doing that, oh my god the pain.......

[@georgedalgleish6384]

This brought back so many memories for me and my time in B.A.O.R. My favourite versions were the R.E.M.E. Types ( the most luxurious quarters in the field). Looking forward.to more 432 content.

[@danieljerram7964]

I was on the signals variant. Holy crap was tight in the back 😂

[@georgedalgleish6384]

Try being a chieftain crewman, The Reme had what they called penthouses half in and half out of the hull, couple with bunk beds and a kitchen area, unreal.

[@blogobre]

This vehicle will serve the Emperor into the 40k.

[@SueDoeNimh]

We are in the beginning of the dark age of technology.

[@ironduff003]

I just wish he would do a walk-around of the vehicle he's discussing. It'd be more interesting than using it as a static backdrop. Otherwise, the series is very good

[@wildonemeister]

That would leave The Chieftain without a job.

[@davidgoodnow269]

​@@wildonemeisterNah, The Chieftain will still have tensioning the tracks, the specifics of suspension and tracks and how they effected the vehicle in maintenance and general and combat service; fitting in different seats, showing storage, and how those effected combat service! I very much enjoy The Tank Museum Tank Chats -- haven't dove in to their restoration videos, it looks like those should be *much* longer -- but when possible now I like to watch the Museum first, then The Chieftain!

[@davidgoodnow269]

I just sent a suggestion about that very subject! Do an introduction voice over of the vehicle and what will in general be discussed, while doing a pan of the vehicle from all sides picking out details to include top and bottom. Segue to the request for patronage, then on to the normal educational monologue.

[@WozWozEre]

Spent a bit of time riding about in these! Not bad for such an old bit of kit. Swift and Bold 👍

[@haalstaag]

My Dad served in BAOR in 1970 and used MK2’s in Munster. In 1983, when I got to Minden, we had MK1’s

[@martingardener90]

Who remembers turning the exhaust downwards so when Herr German pulls up behind you at the lights in his Merc you covered his windscreen in black smoke when you took off!

[@jimsquire9048]

So it's a M113 that drinks tea. ;)

[@tompiper9276]

They came with 'Boiling vessels' mounted on the door so you could brew tea on the move. 😋

[@ianlockwood7842]

Looking forward to you reviewing the 439s

[@AJ-mx1in]

Thanks!

[@phillipbuttery7789]

i worked on parts for these at gkn when i was an apprentice,then worked on some of them later in life for the mod , good utility vehicle

[@garybuttery5673]

How odd. I thought I’d read the comments to see if anyone who actually built them would comment. Both my Grandparents, 2 uncles and my Dad all worked at Sankeys on these and other things. All with the same surname as us!

[@tedstrikertwa800]

Excellent tank chat. Just like the Cuban's keep their old American cars in going, so too does the British Army with it's battle taxi! Can you please do some tank chats on the Soviet Cold War AFV's - BMP*, BTR*, BMD* etc. I'm sure they would be quite popular. Many thanks.

[@galesams4205]

I served on a M113 A2 with 4th inf div. Pleiku vietnam. 6^V53 Detroit, 16 ton 45 mph , allison auto trans. 10th armored.

[@stevenbreach2561]

And?

[@bullettube9863]

It is interesting to note that with the introduction of the M-113 there was a problem with the size of infantry squads being ten while the M-113 could only carry eight men. The solution was to cut the number of men in a squad from ten to eight while increasing their fire power with more automatic weapons. This in turn reduced the number of men in platoons and companies. The same solution has also been apparently implemented by the British army.

[@FureyinHD]

I'm not too sure about that. We certainly ran 10 man sections in WW2, but switched to 8 man sections in the 50s I beleive. Even non mechanised forces are 8 man sections. Its a core thing for us.

[@bullettube9863]

@@FureyinHD Yes it is and I think the real reason was how many men could fit into a Huey helio or an M113 APC. In Vietnam we had 10 man squads; seven riflemen including the sarge with M-16s, , one grenade launcher, the MG gunner and his loader. Sometimes an extra man would be assigned to carry a bigger radio for close air support, and on long patrols a medic would be handy to have along.

[@FureyinHD]

@@bullettube9863 I say we, as in, I'm British

[@KarlReimerGodt]

Funny, many battle tanks are longer, than infantry carriers are.

[@kendoanything]

Great show

[@carlhatcher802]

Thanks.. I drove this in 1990 BAOR.feel really old now.easy 2 drive though uve always got one in car park at Bovvie. My son says dad that's not a tank....

[@johnhopkins6658]

Jack Jones had shooting ports in his van.

[@andreinarangel6227]

Just like the US M113. Good enough. Reliable. Low cost. Versatile.

[@keithplymale2374]

Actually got to drive an Fv432 back in August, 1999. It was a crew of RA vets that had that, a Sexton and a Chieftain with the turret locked and the top cut off and bench seats there. Anyway I remember the 432 was fun to drive. They had the seat and controls up so you were head out. It drove like a large, heave car. Was a highlight for me in a very fun 2 weeks in the UK.

[@mahoneg]

We had an armor museum in Danbury ct that closed. When my 2 sons were young we went on a ride in a Saracen. Drove around a field over small trees. It was great. My kids loved it. The younger son 5 or 6 when he got home "Mommy, Mommy we got to ride in a tank!" "But we did not get to fire the gun". I guess you get the good and the bad. Love this channel

[@zaynevanday142]

Ha ha I thought this was going to be the Walker Bulldog 😂

[@mattw785]

Like the B52! Good engineering and quality build just last.

[@beachboy0505]

In 'only fools and horses ' the streetsweeper held his broom and told Delboy, "I have had this broom for 10 years, I changed the brush 7 times and the handle 11 times, so it's the original broom'

[@fus149hammer5]

A bit like the Cutty Sark. Masts, planking and fittings replaced many times and then it gets burnt to near ashes. And they claim it's original? F**k my old boots!

[@michaelharris-gifford2414]

Something to consider for a future tank chat: track tensioning. The method is fairly obvious for the earlier British models (Churchill & before) but less so for later ones and unclear (if at all) for other nations, like Germany.

[@dulls8475]

If i remember the 432 had 2 methods. The early one was a mechanical tensioner and the later mods had a chamber you put grease into that then used the pleasure to tension the tracks. I seem to remember the nipples were always failing.

[@snidertom8971]

The chunky bus it’s he greatest AFV ever built. No other afv has served for so long and in so many conflicts.

[@alexeimcdonald2079]

I once followed one of these across Salisbury Plains, and every time the tracks went over the road markings the paint came off in great quantities.

[@nickroberts5576]

Was a CVRT instructor [Sultan] 80 to 85...awkward to drive with big gap between high ratio and low and used to overheat on a regular basis. Drove an older 432 once and it was like going from a soviet era Lada to a classic 60s Rover...the 432 was a dream to drive.

[@vanvan-oc4nj]

Well, the weather is getting more nice, remembers me of Covid-times, David Willey doing Q&A in his very nice garden, might be nice again.......

[@actonman7291]

Another gem.

[@robertjones9189]

Great video. Very informative! Looking forward to the 434 vid. We used the 432 APC and 434 variant in our LAD (late 80s early 90s). A very reliable vehicle. We never had one breakdown. We called 432s "Bonks". I spoke to a REME CFN in 2015 - he was talking about the Bulldog. I didn't understand what he was talking about until he said 432. I'd never heard it called that before.

[@ianbell5611]

Thank You. What a great vehicle. I can't believe I hadn't heard of it.

[@vesawuoristo4162]

Thank you

[@gusgone4527]

The utility of a rectangular box on tracks is limitless. Restricted only by the imagination of the troops using them to solve an immediate problem.

[@peterwait641]

Originally XG 279 grease was put in the Universal joints in the Bulldog , not really being a extreme pressure grease they wore out quickly . It got changed to XG 291. Some had batch of Russian hub bearings fitted on rebuild . Much cheaper to run than a warrior is why they like them !

[@ericgrace9995]

Trojan is also a well known brand of American prophylactics.

[@allangibson2408]

Something that an awful lot of soldiers spent time in too…

[@JohnCampbell-t9j]

The Warrior came into service with BAOR in the mid 1970s, not 1988, and I maintained them as a member of REME.

[@dd-gl2qf]

got to drive one of these thanks to the lads at Armourgeddon near Leicester recently, surprisingly easy to drive and very smooth. it was specifically the version equipped with the turret from the Fox, though I think judging by the turret basket this was a custom conversion. They have both custom 432-30s as well as multiple originals.

[@Max-lf3tx]

Was a great APC 40 years ago. It's ridiculous it's still in service.

[@johnhughes8016]

Worked well in Iraq though, better that other available options..... power upgrades and protection were good... we liked them....

[@Max-lf3tx]

@@johnhughes8016 They were fine for Iraq and Afgan.The vehicle still being in service now is a sign of how poor army procurement has been. Most peer nations got rid of their equivalent M113s decades ago.

[@Skorpychan]

Like the M113, it's an armoured box on tracks. They know how it works, how to fix it, and they can just replace bits all day long with 'remanufactured' parts made from the last one they swapped out. It's like how the Hercules and B-52 are still in service.

[@Max-lf3tx]

@@Skorpychan The issue is the threat profile has changed. The C130 has remained in service because it still carries a useful amount and its upgraded systems are good enough for what it does. Likewise the B52 it's still useful but isn't tasked with going into hot areas. The bulldog was good in the 80 maybe the 90s too but isn't suitable for the task it's being asked to do today. Even at the lowest levels of combat terrorists throughout the world are using technicals armed with all sorts including things like the ZU-23-2 with a 23mm gun which is capable of going right through a FV432. Hell the Chinese are putting 20 and 30 mm cannons on basically everything that moves.

[@Skorpychan]

@@Max-lf3tx Yeah, but trucking stuff around in rear areas where your only threat is air-dropped mines, shell splinters, or a near miss with explosives? Works fine. Especially when you've got reactive or slat armour to stop rockets.

[@President.GeorgeWashington]

A podcast about tanks? I love it

[@viandengalacticspaceyards5135]

All the info is great & well presented, but for once I will ask for more. This is a video,not a book, and you have the actual vehicle in good condition. You could show & explain details and interior, for detail-fans like modelers. Like it's a bit frustrating watching grainy black&white film of the interior, when David's standing right in front of the real thing. But don't get me wrong; watching this video was still worth every minute.

[@chaz8758]

There are plenty of vids online that show 432's interiors, privately owned and military operated ones. This is a chat about the history not detailed details.

[@viandengalacticspaceyards5135]

@@chaz8758 I do agree that the history is the main point here...and it is excellent. But I would love David to show us around. It would likely be more interesting than just the items themselves. Ok,, with his liove for complete historic understanding ,that might be a 3h video., but I'd likely watch all of it.

[@matthayward7889]

I got to drive a FV432 (and chieftan, and Abbott) for my 30th birthday. Fantastic experience, but riding inside one while you’re shot at doesn’t bear thinking about

[@JohnyG29]

bear* thinking about.

[@matthayward7889]

@@JohnyG29 you’re right 🤦🏻‍♂️ corrected now!

[@darrenowen3338]

Agree, but being outside one and being shot at is even worse (I imagine).

[@peterrhodes5663]

@@darrenowen3338 Being shot is even worse. It hurts.

[@ifv2089]

_Yes finally the chariot I hacked about the battlefield in is on Tank chats_

[@drmarkintexas-400]

🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏 Thank you for sharing.

[@sammybaugues1260]

Great video appreciate your experience.

[@xerxeskingofking]

i was, until last year, an instructor for these. they are indeed still in use. complete pains to drive on the road, a blast off road, and saunter though stuff that that wheeled vehicles fear to drive.

[@klackon1]

We had a load of 439's at 7 Signal Regiment, Herford in the 70's. I don't remember any of those assigned to two of the three troops in my squadron, ever having any problems. Unfortunately, I was stuck with a Commer tels repair vehicle that was older than most of us blokes.

[@123123baztard]

Piano boards out, Piano boards in - repeat repeat repeat 😊

[@Cancun771]

And here I had been hoping it was the Lanz Bulldog.

[@martingardener90]

Nah - you couldn't start a 432 with a steering wheel!

[@nigelpollard1304]

I was gobsmacked to see (and pass) a 432 mk.2 on a transporter on the M4 a couple of years ago. Instant eighties flashback.

[@naezro]

I love the Bulldog!

[@ALAPINO]

I'm surprised that there hasn't been a tank chat on the M113. If it were possible, I would humbly request that the M113 be considered. Thank you!

[@AtheistOrphan]

They only do chats on vehicles they have in the museum, and I don’t think they have an M113.

[@ALAPINO]

@@AtheistOrphan They have done tank chats on tanks they down own. It was years ago, so I don't recall exactly which vehicle it was. Then again, I recall seeing a M113 at Bovington but it no longer appears on their collections list. Must have been a loaner. Also, M113 is everywhere and likely the most produced APC. A Universal and M113 are probably two most common sight in terms of APC in public and private hands.

[@lucitribal]

I didn't know that this vehicle existed. When I saw the title, I thought of the M41 Walker Bulldog .

[@thecuttingsark5094]

I once out manouvered a Challenger 2 in a 432

[@ianjardine7324]

As a tracked instructor I both loved and loathed these things the old steering/braking/ handbrake system (yes all the same system) was both ingenious and terrifying because an oil cooled friction brake as the only way to steer or brake was insane the overcomplicated heavy underpowered K60 multi fuel engine needed a lot of TLC and the less said about the 240V charging system the better but even with all these flaws it's ability to chug stubbornly through any terrain was impressive and a well trained driver could get places even Warriors feared to go.

[@martingardener90]

Many accidents caused by drivers either driving with their thumbs over the parking latches and accidentally locking one on or trying to stop it heading for the ditch by holding one tiller on all the time until the drum overheated, cracked and jammed the brake on. I remember one 432 doing a 90' turn just after going under a bridge, it went up the embankment, tipped over backwards onto it's roof across the road.

[@mikestarkey7989]

Bulldog was being brought in as I left the military, if I remember rightly the only thing that was carried forward from the 43 series to Bulldog was the body.

[@gunner678]

A good old bus that will soldier on Well!

[@mozki1]

My favourite workhorse was the FV434 modified with a NATO tow hitch on the front...can see what and where exactly you're pushing

[@stephenedwards1600]

Haha, Strip wood on Soltau if I’m not mistaken.

[@davesherry5384]

I could swear rthat as a kid I saw a FV420 in Libya with the 6 RTR back in the late 50's.......i am sure my old man has a photo of it.

[@accesszero4803]

Used to drive one of these in the early 2000s in the royal engineers. What a pain to drive ,would have loved to drive the upgraded bulldog with a steering wheel and not a tiller system

[@onnohus5059]

allmost looks like a warhammer 40K rhino apc lol

[@fetus2280]

I would Love to own one of these ... would make for an amazing Camper :)

[@gerryjellicoe9189]

Learnt on the Mk1 in Germany the only 432 with glow in the dark exhaust.

[@tackytrooper]

I'd love to see every 432 crew member's face when they realized they just missed the chance to be called "Trojan Man."

[@thetruthseeker5549]

03EA41 is sitting outside My kitchen window right now being rained on. Not much on it that isn't Mk1, sold off at BATUS several decades ago. Strange somehow to think one is sitting quietly in a backwater, giving rides to kids to show them "what things were like long ago" while it's sisters are in service now, fitted with some of the latest and greatest. Generations of young soldiers now retired, and their one time mounts serve on.

[@noscopesallowed8128]

My friends and I all think these things look a bit like ducks with the AC unit at the back and the RWS on the front top. Also I hear that Challenger in the background. I wanna see that thing!

[@glennsamson3050]

Side armour from the Bob Semple tank 😆

[@Seraphus87]

"But there was a number of things that were going on on that 420 project ..." hur hur hur hur

[@mostlymessingabout]

59 year old vehicle... and people complain about the T-72 being old 😁

[@SCscoutguy]

I wonder why the 432 didn't have any export success? Was it more expensive than the M113?

[@fus149hammer5]

More likely the American companies that built the 113's lined the pockets of procurement officials in the countries where they wanted to sell them. They have previous form in that.

[@SCscoutguy]

@@fus149hammer5 I did a little bit of research after this and it turns out the 432 was in fact much more expensive than the m113. Some sources say it cost 2/3 more than the basic m113. I am guessing because of economies of scale with the US Army buying it that made it much cheaper.

[@SeanSoraghan]

12:48 12:48 ​@@SCscoutguy

[@SCscoutguy]

@@SeanSoraghan what is that time stamp in the video supposed to tell me?

[@tartan_ninja69]

I was in Iraq when they first arrived, was a impressive bit of kit, we were still in Snatch wagons :(

[@gamermanzeake]

Very cool vehicle! I don't know much about modern armament in tanks and APCs, but it looked like this particular model has flares or trophy systems? Is that so? I'm guessing flares would be to keep anti-tank heatseekers from being an issue. When the IDF (I believe) developed the trophy, it blew my mind.

[@kells3411]

M-41 Walker Bulldog was a completely different animal, 45 MPH, 280 mile fuel range, but only had a 76 mm cannon, which was only good from behind, but it also only had a inch of armor at its thickest, I definitely would not go into an open field no matter how fast it was.

[@scottkrater2131]

Apologies to our British friends, if I didn't see this from the start, I would have assumed it was just a modified M-113, especially since it's mounting an M-2.

[@apexace2002]

Yeah, I had to keep remiding myself it wasn't an M113 continuously through the video. Even on the inside, it is so similar. A key difference though is the Bulldog's swinging rear door, versus the M113's dropping rear ramp. Also, the driver is on the wrong side.

[@tompiper9276]

@@apexace2002 The door was a bit of a problem if you debussed on a slope. Point uphill, it opens really fast but closing it is tricky, slope left, again quiick to open, slope right can't open it but if you do you need to hold it open.

[@martingardener90]

@@apexace2002 No - the driver is on the right side! 😂

[@apexace2002]

@@tompiper9276 I'd imagine so, similarly to an uparmored Humvee door, heavy AF to open uphill. The M113 also has a smaller, manually opened swinging door inset into the ramp, for when you don't have hydraulic power to open the ramp.

[@apexace2002]

@@martingardener90 😆 Technically true I guess

[@Sturminfantrist]

omg this APC is old, when i was a 10 year old Kid in 1970 i got a ride ( a few 100 meters ) in the Commanders place in a 432, dont know they upgraded the APC and used it over such a long period. But Brits used often old Vehicles iam 99% sure i saw WW2 Diamond T`s with Flatbedtrailers in BAOR columns in the late 60s early 70s. But to be fair when i was in military we drove around in 20 year old M.A.N.`s and sometimes i recieved canned sausage / old combat Rations, they made it when i was born, the meat/sausage was 20 years old.

[@dogsnads5634]

All that was left in the Bulldogs was the steel hull, essentially everything else was replaced. Nothing wrong with the steel box ultimately.They were very useful in Basra as they had similar armour protection as Warrior.

[@michaelj132]

@@dogsnads5634 On this I have to disagree. Decades of stress in the frame will have weakened the steal. Metallurgy has moved on in that time. Including in the projectiles it was initially designed to resist. Many of the old features did remain. I was quite surprised when I first jumped into a bulldog and the bakelite fuze boxes, ancient wiring looms and worn out fittings where still in place. With the additional armour they remained underpowered. They did have great mobility, as long as you don't plan on moving fast. I am fond of 432s but they are hopelessly obsolete.

[@pdallen8355]

But does the engine fire warning light still keep coming on when there is no fire?

[@stevebettany8778]

Had to mention how much I miss your curator at home videos.

[@lesliestephenson1298]

The Germans loved "Exercise Damage" made a mint out of track damage.

[@SlaaneshiChaplain]

The FV432 outlived the Warrior and Saxon that came in to replace it.

[@chaz8758]

As Sappers we were promised a turretless version or Warrior so we could keep up with Challys - but they were cut early on. Then as Infantry units started to be cut and Warriors became "spare" we were hoping to get some to replace our old 432's (better armour, speed, drive comfort - just get rid of the Rarden turret as we did not need that) - instead they are now just retiring the Warriors and keeping Bulldogs - most likely because they have more chance of selling Warriors than the old 432's

[@michaelsalt4565]

I drove a 432 in the 70s and 80s, my drives 432 in the 2020s. Replacement is long overdue, they were struggling to maintain them in the 80s.

[@chaz8758]

We had no real problem in the 80's - replacement tracks, engines, final drives all came quickly, vehicles were withdrawn after a certain cycle and replaced with refurbished ones. The bulldogs have had pretty much the whole drive train replaced with much newer parts. The Warriors should be kept though even if they removed the turrets and plated over or added a fixed structure for those units still using the 432 (us Sappers)

[@dougstubbs9637]

M113 = Sardine Machine. What’s green, growls, smelly and crawls through the jungle ? Ask your mate next time you’re crawling through the jungle.