Open Chords = Zombie Chords? How to Ruin Your Guitar Covers

[@curtzblues]

As an old busker once told me "If ya can't sing, ya gotta play good guitar; if ya can sing, nobody fooking cares about the guitar"

[@averyzaliasylvia4026]

Except its wrong..want an example? " Willie Nelson"

[@skeetersaurus6249]

@@averyzaliasylvia4026 - You talking about 'Trigger', that old 'Martin-Gibson electro-accoustic' (which isn't as 'swell' as his personal attachment to it makes it), or his nasal-twangy 'on-the-range' singing sounds better, after you have a couple of good doobies in you?

[@brightonandhoveguitarlesso6686]

I wonder what Jeff Buckley would have to say about that?...

[@leonardouliano4896]

This guy is right on the money, he's not saying good singers can't also be good guitarists, he's saying that if you can sing well, nobody fooking cares about the guitar.

[@rookmaster7502]

Combine good singing with good guitar playing, and you've got something really special.

[@RedmarKerkhof]

I've always known them as campfire chords.

[@geologist5838]

YAS!

[@mr.fahrenheit347]

I've always known it as that "One 50 year old man who plays the same 4 chords at a barbeque" or the "church chords"

[@spiderbabybill]

@@mr.fahrenheit347 Church chords with that sus4 to major cadence X-D

[@mmettej]

Yep, also as Cowboy Chords.

[@Winteramen]

@@mmettej that's what i learned them as ahah

[@VivaFrei]

My wife just asked why I was watching this. I told her I have no idea why. And continued right on watching.

[@theorncampbell4432]

Just prior to reading this comment I turned to my lady and said "I HAVE no idea why I'm watching this". I watched it all the way tomthe end. 😀

[@TheMichaelseymour]

i only turned off - after reading your comment

[@onusgumboot5565]

so your kinda like a zombie, watching a video about chords

[@TheToxicSmoke]

its the same with my wife for like every video xD

[@Gichanasa]

That's how it is with all zombie movies...

[@Tantacrul]

Wondering why there's a blurry bit around the 9m mark? I added this recently to lift an age restriction that was placed on this video. Originally, it was a few clips from the movie 'Day of the Dead', which featured a few zombies getting up to bloody zombie stuff. It had no value to the argument of the video, so I felt it was best to just remove it.

[@derekmatzek9551]

You know it bad when you can’t tell a Led Zeppelin song from a Rebecca Black song

[@awsmunicorn7488]

is this music snobery? i smell music snobery

[@kozhikkaalan]

@@awsmunicorn7488 no, I don't think so

[@Seantendo]

That's just standard doo-wop progression, though.

[@bt3743]

How is this a bad thing though.

[@tiagodarkpeasant]

@@bt3743 because the songs ARE different, if they sound the same you are playing them wrong

[@SwipSedai]

I had a phase where I had the exact opposite problem. I was like 17 and trying way too hard to be unexpected and original and it made everything I wrote and played a harmonic mess. Don't try to be too interesting either, just do what you think sounds good.

[@deltavistastudio124]

What sounds good is determined by your own ear, which is subject to experience and level of musical competence. Not always giving the best results. Keep learning and expanding!

[@tinkyleaf]

That's what I'm afraid of I'm so scared that everything I made is garbage and that it's just bad

[@ShiratoriIsOffline]

Well, me too... That time, I can't understand what my mentor meant...

[@glumbortango7182]

@@tinkyleaf Take a deep breath and try something simpler for a change, it really helps.

[@jaycue7641]

I also ran into this problem when I was a young songwriter. I really got into complex chord progressions and voicings. It got to the point where I was writing songs around weird chords. Sometimes it was cool but I lost sight of serving the song. I got back to the roots and realized it was more important to write a good song first then go back later and try to make it more interesting sonically. More often than not, if the song was good, I didn't have to change much.

[@Xyphyri]

Oh, this isn't a cranberries tutorial. I'll just be on my way.

[@lukep2k362]

Underrated comment

[@concars1234]

@@lukep2k362 looks pretty rated to me

[@darnellafrance3591]

lmao

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

classic

[@wanther_]

@@lukep2k362 nice heavy photo pic, look im soldier lol

[@doug4764]

I LOVE crappy teach-yourself-guitar-in-a-nanosecond videos/apps. Almost every day I encounter a student saying, “I learned this online, but it doesn’t sound right.” An hour later, they’re ecstatic because it now sounds exactly like the album, (often easier to play than the “zombie/cowboy chord” version) and I’m thanking inept KZbin musicians for paying my mortgage.

[@kaitlyn__L]

lmao I had the opposite problem, I’d find really interesting tracks and my guitar teacher would try and make them “easy chords”. It was a side gig for him though, his main deal seemed to be recording, and he played very well. So I guess I just got the wrong guy for the way I think about music. (He didn’t discuss any of the harmonic functions of the chords either, we just practiced the variations for practice’s sake.)

[@Kagatsuo]

I'm curious if there's some kind of resource I could use when it comes to finding better (and potentially easier) chord alternatives? I'm speaking as a beginner (hardest chords I can just barely play are dumbed down versions of Fm and Bm), so I'm not sure if this is kind of a nonsense question.

[@joaquinlezcano2372]

@@Kagatsuo i mean, some sites like Songsterr show you the different forms of the chords

[@JacobKinsley]

Me: *Googles literally anything to do with guitar* KZbin ads: NeVeR pLaYeD gUiTaR bEfOrE? nO pRoBlEm! LeArN tHeSe TwO cHoRdS aNd PlAy EvErY sOnG eVeR tO hAvE eXiStEd!

[@sophiaseth2769]

😂

[@pawii111]

Good i live in the eu, where all that shit is optional... in the broken eu's way

[@sandwichsteen]

Well, it kind of makes sense for someone who hasn't played enough to ever change strings....

[@JacobKinsley]

@@sandwichsteen bro I went 3 years without replacing my strings I didn't understand the concept of them wearing out

[@sandwichsteen]

@@JacobKinsley ha, yeah, that's what my brother does. He doesn't change strings for like 5 years. Lucky to have not broken one! just commenting on Google's logic, which is that someone searching for that probably isn't super experienced. I guess in this case they're wrong

[@mickeyrube6623]

The only thing worse than zombie chord covers: The ukulele cover equivalent.

[@mickeyrube6623]

Granted, it is almost impossible to play anything interesting on a ukulele, it still drives my crazy hearing those same damn chords on a uke.

[@areslopez-huynh7849]

Every time I see someone with a uke at my school and I happen to bring my electric with me I just plug in my little mini amp and just play over them at as loud that lil thing can get

[@despajackie9254]

im a uke player and im screaming internally

[@m1lliep3de]

Bar chords can be played on uke u know..... But I get those stupid kids who think they can play uke because they have a shit plastic soprano and take about 10 seconds to change chords in riptide. It gives me nightmares......

[@furetmonbarre8801]

Guys, just search "Through the water and waves" on youtube, you'll thank later. Bisous

[@gunkanjima3408]

Strumming chords while singing blackbird is your first problem

[@concars1234]

but picking strings is HARDDDD

[@adeawali3169]

@@concars1234 it gets easier .. sometimes to a point where you pluck first and forget to strum

[@dejanhaskovic5204]

@@concars1234 I have no idea why but fingerstyle is much easier than strumming to me.

[@torototoro1252]

@@dejanhaskovic5204 same. well probably because i started with classical guitar lmao

[@areslopez-huynh7849]

concars1234 it’s easy it’s just get the fingerpicking part first then add the chords

[@RobbieEllis]

On the topic of inserting chords into lyrics: there was a fantastic moment in a guitar lesson when I was 12: “I thought that I heard you F-ing; I thought that I heard you A minor.”

[@maz7100]

You totally reminded me of my first guitar lesson with your comment. My teacher taught me (at age 14) the open strings on a guitar as: E-very A-cid D-ealer G-ets B-usted E-ventually Instantly cemented into my knowledge of the instrument. Thank you Mary wherever you are!

[@ale305z]

Losing my religion?

[@RobbieEllis]

@@ale305z Correct.

[@Antoronyx_]

@@maz7100I got taught Eddie Ate Dynamite Good Bye Eddie

[@Alex_HDRN]

@@maz7100 i had "eddie ate dynamite, good bye eddie"

[@B3Band]

"You're not interpreting anything if you keep returning to prescribed patterns." I should put that on my rehearsal room wall.

[@Bova-Fett]

I - vi - IV - V "But it sounds so catchy!"

[@bt3743]

I mean I'm not trying to interpret anything I'm just playing an already written song for fun and hopefully making some money. I ain't trying to take a classic and make something completely new out of it as impressive as that may be

[@fasillimerick7394]

An Irishman saying "dropping a third" is hilarious.

[@BigSleepyJoeCooking]

lol

[@davidjdailey]

Or a "folk" song.

[@alapikomamalolonui6424]

..having a slight Irish accent myself, that never occurred to me UNTIL YOU POINTED IT OUT...!! Now I'll be laughin' my head off at every major turd and minor turd. DAMN YOU....!! :) Or should I say: FOLK you, bucky!!! Mahalo a me aloha nui! 🤙

[@chessinfantry]

😆

[@chessinfantry]

He said it right when I was reading your comment😆

[@yfcqsfyzgqfh]

100 SoNgS wiTh OnLY 3 EAsy cHorDS

[@cs3k3]

10000 songs with only 1 easy chord.

[@ThomasDoubting5]

Just the hundred lol

[@chasehenley83]

Yati sounds like modern pop music all the same shitty snap beat at 120 bmp with no cord progression used less than 69420 times

[@juanarocha8629]

Is it weird that I get pissed off whenever i see that? I feel like you're not paying respect to the song, your just trying to half ass your way through a song to make yourself look good

[@JorgetePanete]

@@cs3k3 a.k.a. reggeaton

[@JonnyOgg]

Can still be useful today: plays hey ya. This hasn't been today for a while

[@Querymonger]

In rock, anything past 90s falls into the "modern" category because it is a culturally dead genre

[@andrewvella7829]

@@Querymonger People are always innovating! Mainstream stuff tends to keep things samey because experimentaton risks profit, but genres and styles don't die they just keep changing. New genres bud off as metal does form rock and so on. Especially after this video, I can see why a genre would seem dead, but Tantacrul is the same guy who called mantream music a stagnant lake surrounded by rivers an streams of musical innovation. I'm paraphrasing, but its good to keep in mind. I know nobody asked me, but I thought I might jump in!

[@heygek2769]

@@andrewvella7829 He didn't say rock was dead, he said it's 'culturally dead' which is true. The last time anything from the rock genre had cultural signifigance was the short-lived nu-metal craze in the early 2000s. And even that wasn't anywhere near as culturally impactful as the development of rock genres in the last half of the 20th century.

[@a.c.3070]

@@heygek2769 What abouy the emo/screamo stuff? Not a fan of it and not saying it's good, but its "rock oirented" and alot of those bands were very popular in the mainstream post early 2000's. Died out more around under 2012-ish?

[@heygek2769]

@@a.c.3070 Dude, i had completely forgotten that shit, fuck you for reminding me. You're right though ;)

[@ole3219]

I might be late to the Party, but I always wanted to add this. I believe that there is a big part of these "Zombie Chords" and why they sound so shallow when Buskers play them. The strumming. I have met many acoustic guitar players. Alot of them just play up and down with little to no variation. They completely forget the strumming hand, which does IMO make the playing and the Song way worse. I think you can spice these Zombie Chords up by having some interesting strumming or maybe even picking style. I'm no expert tho.

[@strint7467]

Yeah, so much of it is the right hand, whether you're strumming or picking. The nuance and syncopation and drive of what you're doing rhythmically is the most important thing, and most of that (but not all of it) comes from the right hand.

[@Jason-le3bp]

I agree. It's always Dn DnUp UpDn. like they never actually think about rhythm.Tell guitarists to think of a spoken phrase like their favourite food and strum it "apple and custard - apple and custard - apple and custard"

[@vanillaslice3016]

Richie Havens. To this day no one even knows what his right hand even looks like since it was always in motion. And he covered everybody.

[@johnnypunx8682]

I think the issue is tuning, strumming as you mentioned and also the FINGERING. G is a zombie chord? Lol that chord is so common probably at least 40% of the worlds' music catalog would disappear without it.

[@haemind]

I never knew acoustic guitar was hard until I tried strumming differently

[@Whovian1029]

That cover of D'yer Mak'er physically hurt me

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

Yeah, me too *cries in Ledhead*

[@collwinwhrite9947]

😂😂😂😂same

[@neko_aple]

*plays Led Zeppelin* *plays it with open chords*

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

One does not simply play Led Zeppelin faux-reggae with open chord strums

[@spiderbabybill]

I want to hear him play The Rain Song in standard tuning with open chords. Just how Jimmy Page was too scared to play it.

[@SamExler]

Open chords = Zombie chords? Em C G D Another head hangs lowly, child is slowly taken Em C G D And the violence caused such silence, who are we mistaken Well, yeah.

[@richardb7315]

Sam Exler what I thought when I read the title

[@Salniish]

@@richardb7315 yup i thought this vid was going to be about that song

[@brianbatie6650]

Even far worse... Em (aos) C (aos) G (aos) D Another head hangs lowly, child is slowly taken AOS is when lazy people stroke the 6 open strings in between the proper chords. I call it the "lung cancer" chord.

[@jalucaru]

Em C I've become so numb ....G....D...

[@miika35476]

@@richardb7315 Same here!

[@RipTard]

Interesting video here-OH WAIT THAT’S ME!

[@cursedcliff7562]

Flex tape cant fix that

[@alefnery3203]

Oh No

[@morgankosokowsky812]

Ouch man, you doing good?

[@pheebo4831]

“half a hundred” what? just say 50, it’s half of 4 syllables

[@SmellyBones]

Before this video I was 50 years old. Yawn. Now I'm HALF A HUNDRED.

[@PolythenePam0451]

It's just more hyperbolic

[@macheleon]

I see what you did there. At least I hope that's what you did.

[@th3unmaker]

Yet, you used all those words to "fix" his video.

[@Liggliluff]

I've heard situations when people shorten a name to an abbreviation, but that abbreviation has the same or even more syllables than the full name. Usually due to it containing W. The only abbreviation I can think of right now is: world-wide-web = 3 syllables W-W-W = 9 syllables

[@pur3_guava79]

I feel like it really depends on the song. Most country or western songs are wrote and played with open chords. The problem is when people take a complex song and dumb it down to 3 chords. Its not the chords its self its the dumbing down of songs to increase the library of beginners who aren't being taught correctly.

[@FrenchToasted1995]

imagine a cover of discipline using that

[@maxsmith8196]

Will I mean… Isn’t it a good thing that some random beginner can learn and sing along to his favorite songs?

[@naterambles8525]

@@maxsmith8196 that is the only silver lining.

[@talkysassis]

@@maxsmith8196 No because this comfort zone will make their life a hell to learn correctly.

[@maxsmith8196]

@@talkysassis I simply just don’t think that’s true at all, if they want to move on to more advanced ways of playing that’s good, and they will probably figure it out. What’s way worse is if they just stop learning because it seems overwhelming and not fun.

[@BasiliskFrenzy]

Mentions power cords... Not even 5 seconds later... NIRVANA

[@rustydusty8637]

lmao its so true

[@f67739]

nerbana invented music lol

[@themacocko6311]

Lol, I was going to comment on that 🤣

[@nomore570]

Or every punk band ever

[@LucasHormann]

TBH I was waiting for Ramones

[@Lillers24]

"That miserable bone crunching B" truer words have never been spoken

[@spht9ng]

Just do a B Major 7th. way easier.

[@michaelegan3522]

Just play it as a barre chord and ignore the high e string

[@plantain.1739]

I always find it weird how many courses do the full barre instead of leaving off the b and e string.

[@neilvirgo426]

Milli Vanilli performed many great songs and only used one chord - the electrical chord powering the backing tape.

[@niwm]

So you're saying Milli Vanilli popularized the power chord?

[@yrussq]

I was laughing already when you wrote "performed" I don't know if it was intended :)) The joke is just MASSIVE! :D

[@keinname1896]

@@niwm this comment is underrated.

[@lucianoblues]

I'll give you a far away better example: Edwyn Collins - A girl like you

[@neilvirgo426]

@@lucianoblues Michael hutchence just liked to use the one chord too.

[@chaseyou3196]

I'm just a beginner man.

[@nocksar744]

@Alexander Supertramp omg shut up cringe

[@chongyvevo]

We all start somewhere bro, don't worry. Keep progressing

[@nocksar744]

@Alexander Supertramp bitch you are cringe af no matter what you say wow

[@Reragi]

@Alexander Supertramp cant tell if he was serious, or if you just took some bait, which was quite obvious from the first reply

[@flytrapYTP]

@Alexander Supertramp you're right

[@spooklass]

Okay, but why in god's name is this age-restricted? I just wanted to learn something about guitars.

[@thegrayowl1557]

Lot of really brutal scenes from zombie movies

[@silpheedTandy]

@@thegrayowl1557 that gore actually made me feel a little bit ill. i had to look away.

[@joyce_rx]

@@silpheedTandy your mom

[@bellyjelly0812]

@@silpheedTandy Ah, so just a really ridiculous and stupid way of editing a video. Thanks Tantacrul!

[@twindrill2852]

@@bellyjelly0812 This was one of his older videos, so...

[@fadhlil5173]

Arya nara in a nutshell If u dont know him, he’s an indonesian guitarist that gives guitar lesson but make it hilariously simple, for example, he turned Love Of My Life by Queen, a magnificent fingerstyle song, into a 3 chord campfire strumming pattern song. thw whole fucking song sounded like it screams "i learned guitar to get laid" its un-fucking-believable

[@lemonade.valley]

That's why you watch Ade Sulistio instead of Arya Nara

[@lifeasundead]

What I basically got out of that was, "You're a new guitar player? Great, keep it up. Have you been playing guitar for awhile now? Dude, you really have to open up your chord library and stop playing just open chords".

[@BollocksUtwat]

He sort criticizes how you as the new guitar player are probably being taught by others too. No reason as a new player to be limited to those open chords.

[@johnnypunx8682]

Angus young did not only use open chords but he literally used about the same 4 or 5 very common chords and look how good they were and successful. I couldnt live without open chords there is so much you can do with them

[@johnnypunx8682]

Gonna play devils advocate here: what about intonation?

[@proxyrox4027]

...there is nothing wrong with that viewpoint. Using the same old open chords for absolutely everything means you're confined artistically. It's like if you could only play the white keys on a piano and never bothered to expand to the sharp/flat notes

[@2beJT]

@@johnnypunx8682 You should try to save up for a real instrument that can be set up properly so you have intonation up the neck.

[@Dreyno]

Open chords are great. And are used all over the place by many incredible guitarists. They just ring nicer a lot of the time. The problem arises when they get substituted in for other chords. Playing an Em at the second fret instead of an Em7 at the seventh fret for example.

[@jjwp-ql5rv]

I agree on that. The chord might be, say, a Cadd9 or a C7 etc, and a basic C is used. That's where it'll sound too thin.

[@eastweymouthchris]

U can play emin7 in closed form from the second fret

[@Dreyno]

eastweymouthchris My point was when the simple approximation in the wrong octave gets substituted instead of the correct chord. Like when someone gets that it’s Em but misses the 7th and the fact that it’s in a higher octave and just plays a simple open position Em.

[@feliperagonha]

if it sounds better... it's not a problem at all

[@Dreyno]

@@sunkintree How does it seem like that to you?

[@Kentokkil]

It takes "3 chords and the truth" (Johnny Cash)

[@Zoologic21]

Professionalism in a video essay is always appreciated, but I really do love it when someone just goes ham on their grievances with the lackluster, faulty and incorrect ways people demonstrate things. The passive sardonic tone in straight up criticizing the dead Beatles tutorials is just perfect and hilarious.

[@faselblaDer3te]

I don't like how you suggest that C = C7 = Cadd9/11 = ... they all have very different characteristics and multiple possible harmonic/melodic functions.

[@thehoodlen]

I disagreed with his point about the A#dim7 chord as I felt it worked for me in terms of increasing tension for the release at the end of the phrase

[@sticklyboi]

lol 9/11

[@2m7b5]

@@sticklyboi Gottem

[@ericquinney6004]

STICC

[@sc1ss0r1ng]

@@thehoodlen - Me too. It is perfect, to remove the complete feeling of home that you'd otherwise get from just playing within the scale. Just curious, have you listened to classical music for extended periods of time in your life, in any context?

[@jakefielke3678]

I laughed way too hard when you said "sounds like Blackbird has been strangled in the dead of night"

[@thesteelwarrior]

A huge problem is everyone's ultimate fear of bar (or barre depending on your spelling) chords. They're really hard to learn and it is an issue to learn "caged" chords before hand.

[@vaporghoul]

they take like 2 days to understand idk why everyone is afraid of them

[@icytea0]

@@vaporghoul lol 😭

[@VinPetrol420]

@IcyTea I always just thought of, and explain a barre chord as just an open chord moved up the neck and thinking of your index finder as a makeshift capo. Traditional F chord barre chord is just an E shape moved up 1. Moved up 3 is a G. Same with an open A, up 3 is C etc. Works with majors, minors, inversions, 7s add 9s, diminished. Open Am shape barred on the 7th is 7 semitones above an Am, so Em. E7 shape moved up 3 and barred on the 3rd is G7 etc. etc. Bm is just Am shape up 2, or you can do Em shape up 5. So if someone asks you to play a C#minor7, just think of it as open Aminor7 shape, move it up 4 frets from open, and barre the 4th. The only thing you need to remember is B and C are 1 semitone or fret apart, and E and F are one semitone/fret apart. There is no B# or E#, they are just C and F. All other notes are 2 frets apart so can be sharp.

[@matturner6890]

@@VinPetrol420 movable chord shapes like that are the best place to start learning imo

[@Eli-mn5cq]

I'm not really scared of the logistics of them, my weak beginner fingers just can never get that barre out quick enough to fit it into an actual song

[@Max-sk2kt]

The addition of Kurt Cobain in here is great, he's a perfect example of someone who was able to make tired old chords sound new again

[@palms159]

Kurt was extremely adventurous on the fretboard, a harmonic genius in a way. The only Nirvana song that uses just the basic chords is Rape Me, and even that one jumps to a weird key in the middle 8.

[@johndotcue]

@@palms159 i thought About a girl is his most basic song…. It’s just a bunch of common Major and Minor chords that sounded good together lol

[@palms159]

@@johndotcueI was speaking in the context of the video, which talks about the overuse of chords people first learn EGACD and maybe F, "About a Girl" has that C#-G#-F# jump after the Em-G phrase (the "take advantage" part), so I wouldn't call it a simple song in that context (in that sense for example "Space Oddity" is simpler actually). I think the level of freedom Kurt took when chosing "what sounds cool" is unprecedented. But it's hard to be scientific about it, depends a lot on how you define the terms "basic chord" and "complex song".

[@A_random_NPC]

Kurt wouldn’t try to make good music and also try with everything in his body to make good music

[@NewtsMana]

Yess

[@tccostello]

I thought they were going be "Zombie" chords, coz they were all in the Cranberries' song.

[@SpaTmole]

They called Zombie chords, cuz they are always gonna be... in your head, IN YOUR HEAD!

[@katiex_x8112]

Lmao, tbh it is a great song

[@b.r2715]

That's cute

[@reksub10]

Yep ,clickbait works.

[@ShakerGER]

Destruction 100

[@elijahevans1191]

Open chords are used by buskers because they're louder. Any barred or power chord is gonna be way quieter.

[@musicaln8]

Depends what amp you're using, and picking dynamics

[@elijahevans1191]

@@musicaln8 Absolutely. However, a good portion of buskers dont have amps, and there are many venues that restrict the use of amplifiers. In those instances, open chords are the way to go.

[@TomaszKalusMusic]

Exactly, I said the same in my comment.

[@zibbezabba2491]

@@musicaln8 Most buskers use an 'unplugged' acoustic guitar.

[@taunoctua245]

Pete Townsend did a lot of this, but left a lot of room for that insane rythm section by playing 2 or 3 notes of the chord.

[@fancypelusa2863]

Most players, even self taught ones eventually experiment with different versions of cords and bar cords. They sometimes discover even the caged system of different cord shapes without knowing the theory behind it. Open cords have their place and are especially beautiful sounding when finger-picked. But yes, some players never progress to the next stage but as long as they enjoy playing who cares, each to his own.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

But if you're trying to be better, here's what to avoid. . .

[@theofficialmakeawishfounda6924]

69th like babeeee

[@LlamasOnJUPITER]

some players dont know shit abt music theory and have no idea that other versions of chords are even possible lmao

[@AndrewGurn]

Truth. I don't know anything about theory, but I will randomly rearrange my fingers until I get a chord that sounds good in the context of the song, haha. Why does it sound nice? What chord is it? Who cares!

[@giannaarissa]

i’m progressing so i usually change my open notes to the bar note because for me bar notes are way easier

[@_ikako_]

That's why I like using yousician. It starts you off with these chords, labelling them as "cowboy chords" but as soon as it gets the chance, it moves you on to power chords, then 7ths and then Barre chords.

[@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World.]

Interesting

[@kyokari4]

I literally had an ad for that in this video.

[@ZachSkye]

Tbh, I used Justin Guitar. Went through the cowboy chords, then onto more chords, including the 'wonderwall chords' as he put it. And I've picked up a couple of other ones by picking songs with chords I didn't know. I can already see that sometimes, it's better to experiment with different chord styles in a progression to see if it suits it better, and I've only been playing for a couple of months

[@scrat3695]

I started playing guitar by memorizing 8 basic chords and then learning guitar songs from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. it really was a great way to help me memorize finger placement and my strumming hand movements :)

[@damnfreakingsien]

I HATE Yousician. I can butcher a song with off tempo, and I can still pass the stage. The only technique that it taught really well was string bending since it can capture the pitch accurately. Just like Simply guitar, they tend to gamify the experience, which tends to rush things which when learning an instrument, you shouldn’t imo. Thank god I switched to an actual teacher after almost a year of enduring crappy playing. But if you enjoy those apps, good for you! 👍🏻

[@grantm5297]

Unless a busker is really bad, it always is nicer than silence. Thanks to all the buskers out there who make my days much brighter !

[@grantm5297]

He is being patronising , he refers to people sucking the life out of performances? What is the point Being missed?

[@grantm5297]

He should provide more examples so we can hear what he is talking about. Rather than talking about it. It’s only in his opinion that the busker on the train wasn’t any good and it’s difficult to judge without hearing it. if the video isn’t about people I don’t understand the reference to the age of the busker on the train and the reference to his choice of an ‘odd’ song. If you could explain i would appreciate it In my opinion art doesn’t have to be perfect for it to be enjoyable

[@grantm5297]

He refers to buskers several times in the video, every time in a negative way

[@grantm5297]

My point is to stop busker bashing and appreciate them for the colour they bring into our lives even if it’s not perfect

[@grantm5297]

Why say that? That’s a bit rude. Does SlugRoaster use zombie chords? 71 views and you call yourself professional musicians. I would suggest you go and learn from a few buskers. Get creative. And open your mind 😀

[@rileytasker7670]

I always called them and heard them called Cowboy Chords

[@Sindragozer]

Same

[@yognaughtswifter]

thats what we call em here in texas

[@gungy_vt]

8:50 Like, yeah, sounds not good in context, but damn is this a spicy sound. I can dig it.

[@GameboyFanatic]

Especially with that tone

[@Daniel-uj2cu]

Diablo theme vibes on that chord

[@richardbloemenkamp8532]

He removed the best chord of the whole song in my view. There are several other places where his singing is not ideal, but this chord was fine.

[@xyzyzx1253]

I just need to know what it resolves to lmao

[@seaotter4439]

I'm a bit of a FNaF aficionado, and given that my working theme for a short story in the Fazbear Frights series of horror anthologies called Blackbird, is the Beatles song, I think that chord works if I want to evoke the mood of the story: uncertain and foreboding.

[@CitryteYT]

I agree that chord at 8:50 sounds like blackbird's been strangled in the dead of night, but more specifically to me it sounds like you just found a major clue in your investigation of blackbird's murder

[@joekim3307]

Youre not supposed to tell people this bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Tantacrul]

Lol!

[@onusgumboot5565]

he let the secret out. he must be punished. I'll give it a like, BUT I WON"T MEAN IT

[@paulduplex]

I know - it's like hitting a wrong note & it turns into jazz. ...oops... now I've burst their bubble!

[@DaystillToolsnewalbum]

I know! That's why I hate jazz! Its like, just play the right notes!

[@agtronic]

This was my EXACT THOUGHT!

[@chrishirschy]

Open chords are the standard of acoustic guitar. The issue that this video points out is that people often play songs on acoustic guitar that are not written to be played on acoustic guitar. Many Beatles songs are very easily played with open chords (Blackbird happens to be one of the few that is not...). I actually learned how to play guitar by playing Beatles songs on guitar out of a book like the one mentioned in this video. The issues is that people don't play musically (And judging from the clips in this video, people are attempting to teach guitar on KZbin who have no business doing so). They don't understand dynamics. They don't learn how to strum, finger pick, or mute. And yes, they don't know any other chords. There is nothing wrong with open chords. Just learn to play them well. And learn what songs work on acoustic guitar.

[@davidbassplanc]

Chris Hirschy agree. This is a terrible video. I want sue for my time back.

[@WuweiTranslations]

Finally someone said it!

[@cmac1781]

I think the point was don’t play open chords for songs that weren’t written with open chords because it completely changes the melodic direction.... he even said there is nothing wrong with open chords

[@hihowareyou6629]

So what our friend Chris is trying to say here (in a much kinder way) is, this guy is a huge douchebag. People like this almost make me hate music. I love how he uses these novice musicians to prove his point also.

[@halodude7239]

I'm in band so I understand dynamics quite well and I play guitar and I totally agree with what you're saying

[@UndercoverRat]

Keep in mind that the strumming hand is as important as the hand holding down the strings...

[@182drummerboy]

thank you! Rhythm is soo important and the right hand does a decent amount of playing guitar, as well!

[@kisushima4149]

This is such an important comment. When I started guitar I spent hours making sure I was playing the right chord rather than transposing an open chord that differed from the original. But it still sounded wrong. Until I realised my strumming hand hadn't really progressed since day One. Now THAT was a wakeup call. Nowadays I actually love playing acoustic, open string compositions just to work and try out new strumming patterns and sounds I can get out of a guitar. Too many people don't realise the importance of where to strum on a string. I once watched a video where Joe Satriani tutored a fan, and after this fan played an admittedly quite good version of Satch Boogie (although I'm not a well versed fan of his genre) Joe sat for a minute and said something to the effect... "why do you strum in the same place for every note?". The guy looked dumbfounded and ever since then I can't help but play around with strumming just on the fretboard or low on the bridge. The tone changes immensely. Beginners nowadays buy a guitar and a couple of pedals from day one. Pedals shouldn't even really come in to it for some time, if the amp has sufficient gain then you'll have enough range to play some great music to start off with. Hell I only really use pedals if I'm recording, all of my practice is usually dry anyway.

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Undercover Rat Music good advice, my right hand usually is driving the song

[@user-s1o3nr532]

Absolutely right - this makes more difference than all the inversions in the world. Pretty much all of his bad examples had the guitarists playing with a really sloppy beginnerish right hand, which didn't really prove his point at all.

[@3OrMoreBones]

But that's like saying the trigger finger for a gun is just as important as the one that holds the... you have a point.

[@abcadef6171]

I'd just like to say that the mid-roll ad that KZbin gave me at 6:48 (in the middle of the list of examples of KZbinrs playing many songs using just four chords was an ad promising to teach me to play 100 songs by learning just four chords.

[@rhodeschannel]

8:07 Have I been playing too much Jazz or why does it sound perfectly fine to me?

[@matej4699]

No, I don't think it's because of the Jazz. It just sounds more natural and nicer I think. Dunno how to describe it, since I don't listen to this type of music that often :/

[@weggensjeanbaptiste]

it sounds good lol

[@BGamers11]

In my opinion, the chords sometimes look not so well together. It's very hard to detect. I played blackbird myself on an acoustic guitar and the version didn't have strumming. I see that the version I used has way nicer sounding. Long-time musicians can detect weird soundings way easier than most people...

[@anuvette]

7th 9th and 13th chords are so pleasing to hear hehe

[@RuiPalmeira]

It's fine. He didn't play it exactly like they did in the record, of course it sounds "off".

[@AaronManzo1]

"Christ. It sounds like blackbird's been strangled in the dead of night" HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

[@thinkbear]

And then a shot of Yoko singing. Brilliant!

[@hR-gw3re]

i get the point of the video, different ways to play chords add "colour" to the song, etc... but if i had watched this video when i started playing i would be frustrated and probably dropped it and i'd play bass now. telling people "more than 10 ways to play a chord" or calling the base chords "zombie chords" can be demotivating af

[@tea-stomach-cycle6385]

If it's demotivating, quit fucking playing. No one is here to hold your hand and gently guide you through the process. If you're shit, you need to know it, and you need to have the drive to improve. People aren't retarded, and can work their way through all the knowledge.

[@zaidanp7258]

@@tea-stomach-cycle6385 Better to have shit music than nothing.

[@Liggliluff]

See this video as part of the Dunning-Kruger effect. It isn't for when you start off learning, it is after you've learned a bit, and think you can play any song with just a few chords, but then you'll have to learn that there's more flavour to it. It is true that this video isn't for a beginner. I doubt this was intended for beginners, since it was focusing on people who has been playing for a while. As well as the people who rely on the "60 songs with just 3 chords" idea.

[@finerthings4546]

Aldo this is a bit generic and slighly bullsiht. Trust only your ears, record yourself and listen back, improve, rinse and repeat.

[@jhutt8002]

But to me it really killed interest in trying to play songs, when every song I could find was thaught with those, and I just couldn't get anything to sound right. Still I'm really lazy at learning songs, because there's no reputable source to read how exactly specific song should be played, and my ears are just not good enough to learn them correctly. Even sheet music more often than not ignores the guitar parts aside main melody. Mainly I just compose and play my own music. It's easier and more fun.

[@Gothstana]

These are the chords my dad always plays when covering songs at family gatherings, or at the pub... Dad chords?

[@MaggaraMarine]

I wouldn't blame the chord shapes on their own. Open chords are fine, especially if you are just accompanying yourself. You need something to compensate for the lack of a full band, so you need to play these 5-6 string chord voicings, preferably in the low register (because you don't have a bass player so you need to play the bass yourself). This naturally leads to using open chords when you are accompanying yourself (because the lowest bass notes are on the first 5 frets of the two lowest strings). They are just the fullest sounding chords out there. Why the generic open chord arrangement sounds boring is not only about the chord voicings themselves - it's about the generic strumming rhythms too. Would the arrangement sound any better if the people in your examples had used barre chords but kept everything else the same? I doubt it. It's about the boring way people play these chords, not about the chords on their own. Accompanying yourself and making the accompaniment interesting is difficult. It is of course possible to add some color notes to the basic open chords. A common trick would be playing a pedal D-G on the two highest strings over the whole progression if you are in the key of G. For example a basic G-Em-C-D progression could be played as G (3 2 0 0 3 3) Em7 (0 2 2 0 3 3) Cadd9 (x 3 2 0 3 3) Dsus4 (x x 0 2 3 3). This is a bit generic, but it sounds a bit more colorful/interesting than just the basic open chords. Also, I disagree with your presentation of inversions. Root position chord is not necessarily voiced 1 3 5. It can also be voiced 1 5 3, or you can double some of the notes. This means, even root position chords let you write chord melodies. The only thing that makes a chord a "root position chord" is the bass note. You could write the same boring chord melody (with the fifth of the chord on top) over the same chord progression where all of the chords were inversions, and you could write the same interesting melody (with different chord tones in the melody) with just root position chords. This is why instead of "inversions" I would suggest calling them "voicings". The inversion only affects the bass note, not the order of the other notes.

[@luisbadolato]

What you are refering to as "Root Position" could be thought actually as two different concepts together: Any triad voiced in Root Position and Closed Spacing (also closed triad or closed voicing) will be, just like you said, 1 3 5; but it could also be 151351 (just like any guitar bar chord) when the Closed/Open spacing is not defined and you only have the "Root Position" information. This is one of the main problems Music Theory and its nomenclatures have, there's no just one standardized way to name things, since there's no just one Theory Book to refer to. So when we read Walter Piston's harmony book, and then Berklee's harmony and guitar methods, and then some Hal Crook, mixed with Messiaen, adding some Enric Herrera, Ron Miller, Alfonso del Corral, and Mark Levine we see that each of them have different ways to name certain things. One of the simplest is naming minor chords, there's no ONLY a way to name the same A minor chord, since all these are seemingly valid: Am A- Ami Amin a. I'd prefer to just name them Am, but whatyagonnado...

[@luisbadolato]

MaggaraMarine Agree with you, been working as a recording musician for more than 10 years and I always tend to favour capo and using open chords over playing bar chords. It always makes the guitar parts sound brighter and fuller. You can always make some arrangements, add tensions or sus2, sus4, add some voice leading or even record two guitars playing in different "keys" with the necessary capo adjustment to make the guitar parts even bigger. So in the end it's not open guitar chords' fault, but the player's profficiency.

[@tessdurberville473]

hey you post regularly on ultimate guitar!

[@aullos]

Root position is 1 3 5. 1 5 3 is usually called a drop II in the fundamental shape of the chord (aka the root at the bass). Where 1 is voice I, 3 is voice II, and 5 is voice III. So by putting the second voice at the higher register, you're making a drop II.

[@TheJigglicious]

MaggaraMarine I really like some of the counter points that you offer!

[@newpianotutorials]

I didn't expect to see Faith No More in here !

[@Tantacrul]

Couldn't help it. What an album :)

[@bridges4232]

@@Tantacrul angel dust is easily one of the best albums ever. All their stuff is great.

[@rockers2rockers616]

Playing guitar is a journey through life and yes you can happily play open chords until you want to learn more or not. It's all about how you play those chords. But most of all we need more people to pickup a guitar and learn to play.

[@petermarsh4578]

I wholehearrtedly agree!

[@barronasi]

“Why this chord was chosen is beyond me.” Yoko Ono:

[@NotRightMusic]

A bit of voice leading can go a long way for guitarists

[@sumakra_is_listening]

And makes the difference between a solid useful guitar player and a free-time fireplace strummer :D

[@FlaxeMusic]

That requires knowing the fretboard. Which is arguably a more intimidating journey than knowing a piano layout. Various voicings and inversions on the piano will look identical when shifting the register by an octave, but because of the tuning of the guitar and the inconsistency of the minor 3rd within that tuning our shapes become entirely different when we move up an octave. It's why we see the dichotomy between the average pianist and guitarist. Eg the Maj7 sound has one set of shapes each string set depending on how you divide them. The typical, more easily reachable ones for guitar are the closed drop 2 voicings, Strings 6543, 5432 and 4321, and drop 3, 6432 and 5321. Just taking the closed string sets alone you have 12 different individual shapes for that permutation of 1357. Piano would have 4 because of the symmetry afforded by the keyboard. Essentially a guitarist has to learn roughly 3x as much shape wise kinaesthetic information to get the same average harmonic potential of a pianist. Our advantage as guitar players is in transposition of those shapes with very minimal effort, particularly chromatically where a pianist can't just move his hand up with the same shape, he has to reorder his hand entirely.

[@flatfingertuning727]

@@FlaxeMusic In the tuning I use, there are two movable forms of major 7 chord. One is voiced root-root-3rd-5th-7th (e.g. EbM7 would be x-1-1-2-2-3 for Eb-eb-g-bb-d'); the other is root-[sub 5th]-5th-7th-3rd-5th (e.g. AbM7 would be 1-x-1-2-4-4 or 1-1-1-2-4-4 for Ab-[Eb]-eb-g-c'-eb') . The same voicings are also available for minor 7, dominant 7, and minor-major 7th. I've recorded Misty at kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3mrqGWuadVjitE which uses a lot of major, minor, and dominant 7th chords and I think the chords flow quite nicely.

[@FlaxeMusic]

No, there are certainly more than that within your tuning. The voicings you referenced is just one inversion, as those chords only feature the root in the bass. Unless your tuning utilizes complete symmetry ala perfect 4ths or 5ths, then your tuning has either equal or more shapewise information than standard tuning in reference to playing inversions. Here's what I mean- Taking your examble of EbMaj7, the Drop 2 inner string set voicings (strings 5432) in order would be: Root position: Eb Bb D G First Inversion (3rd in the bass): G D Eb Bb Second inversion (5th in the bass): Bb Eb G D Third inversion (7th in the bass): D G Bb Eb 4 shapes for 4 inversions but none the less still the same notes of EbMaj7. I'm quite sure your tuning hasn't managed to escape that reality yet, unless as I said you tune in all 4ths or 5ths in which case you eliminate many of the difficulties learning chord shapes.

[@flatfingertuning727]

@@FlaxeMusic Flat Finger Tuning does make it awkward to include both the root and seventh except in root and second inversions, but the root is often not the most important note in those situations. The upper four strings can easily do any inversion of a triad, including the diminished triads that are enharmonically equivalent to a seventh without the root. One can then use the bottom string to either double the root from the top four strings, supply the root for a second-inversion chord, or supply the seventh for a root position seventh on the upper strings. For example, in "A litttle fall of rain", near the end of the second verse, I use x-13-15-16-16-16 as an F7/Eb (third inversion). A dexterous person could play e.g. Eb7 first and second inversion seventh chords without any missing notes using e.g. x-5-5-5-5-4 (G-Bb-Db-Eb) or x-8-8-8-7-8 (Bb Db Eb G) but I'm not that dexterous so I instead omit the root, for x-5-5-5-5-8 (G-G-Bb-Db-G) or x-8-8-8-11-11 (x-Bb-Db-G-Bb) which works pretty well in most contexts.

[@Bluevlower]

okay youtube. i watched it. i watched the video you've been reccomended to me for a year now. are you happy?

[@samsonmcgloughlin]

Hey, youtube here. We at youtube don't like the tone of your comment so we have decided to ip ban you from our platform. Goodbye

[@perryborn2777]

Same here mate, I've been getting the recommendation for this for ages, I just wanted it gone. I don't even play guitar! I'm a bassist (I can still apply some of this kind of, but chords aren't exactly at the forefront of what I do)

[@acobster]

The youtubes are never satisfied.

[@dreamlandbuds7710]

Granted, they introduced you to a great music artist.

[@HECKproductions]

there are three kinds of acoustic guitar covers IMO 1. all open chords 2. all bar chords namely the E, Em, Am and C forms transposed over the neck 3. creating a melody and sense of movement with your voicing choices i do 1 mostly because i am an amateur but i am getting into 3

[@stonerubber]

You nailed it. #3 is the goal.

[@namey6297]

@@stonerubber not sure why people do the barre chords only one

[@liquidcancer4573]

@@namey6297 Because it's easy. You don't have to memorize lots of different shapes, there's just 4 main shapes that you use, and it's fairly intuitive as to which chord is which

[@namey6297]

@@liquidcancer4573 That is true, however it can wear me down if i play barre chords too often lol, which is why i sometimes change one of the barre chords into an open chord to give my fingers time to rest.

[@jakubbriza7274]

C shape bar chord is quite hard and tells something about the guitarist who's playing it I think but I agree that point number 3 is the goal.

[@andycrowley]

Wicked video my friend 🤘🎸

[@Rheologist]

You must acknowledge though that all those KZbin videos and beginner training apps are not aimed at teaching true, higher level musicianship. Their only goal, which they usually state clearly, is to get novices to technically be "playing songs" they want to play very quickly and easily.

[@Tantacrul]

Yep - that's their goal alright. But that's partially motivated by wanting to be able to output fast, low quality videos, rather than anything detailed. It's not necessary though - there's a lot of good music out there that's easy to play. Why don't these guys teach that? What value is there in a crap version of blackbird? Learning to play an instrument shouldn't be an exercise in collecting songs like video game trophies. What's more, these sorts of videos are so prevalent that anyone starting out will probably follow their instructions uncritically. This video is meant to inform beginners by cautioning them to use their ears to help them discern with a bit of simple theory.

[@Iheartdgd]

Their number one goal is to get as many downloads/views/subscriptions as possible, it’s really as simple as that.

[@komradekontroll]

And create generations of guitarists who are lost without a chord sheet or tab. God forbid they have to actually LISTEN to the song to learn how to play it.

[@johnmoore9588]

All it does is encourage "party guitarists". People who dilute the pool of guitarists with people who only learn to play for the social gratification of being able to half-ass a few pop songs

[@forgetful9845]

I have no issue with people just wanting to play songs. People play guitar for diff reasons.

[@markvanslooten5311]

"Bone crushing B' Thank God, I thought it was me.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

Nope, everyone hates B. I hate B-flat even more though.

[@quy1-keid]

Not that hard tbh

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

After you've been at it a while, sure. But if you don't do it a lot, it's not the most comfortable chord.

[@quy1-keid]

@@ThinWhiteAxe yeah true I think F is a tad bit more annoying

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

@@quy1-keid I use my thumb for the bottom string, it's a lot easier

[@Scheinwerfer120]

This video insulted me on a very personal level

[@theoriginaldylangreene]

Me too, great wasn't it! Now I can accept how bad I really am and start to learn.

[@handsomebrick]

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[@OmegaSon]

handsomebrick haha bazinga

[@rilem1510]

@@danield01 you're really cool

[@solomonpk]

@@danield01 everyone deserves a guitar. Everyone deserves open chords. I bet everyone starts off with those chords. But the day a person decides open chords are enough, that's when things change. This video has made me remember the time and effort I put into learning the guitar. It's just not right to settle for open chords.

[@olexarity]

I’m somebody who’s been playing piano for 8 year and I’m getting into electric. I’m glad to you talking about the HOW and WHY majors and minors and different and the overuse. I absolutely loved this. 10/10

[@thisnamesbetter]

Power Chords on a guitar don't have a third, they are only a root and a fifth. They possess no major or minor quality.

[@k0feiini]

I believe as soon as he drops the 3rd's, the chords are actually 5's (C5, G5 and so forth.). Bothered me a bit that the chord names weren't adjusted accordingly.

[@andrewzibuck5860]

Well, he didn't say third, he said turd.

[@sazza0736]

Well I don't know music theory so I have no idea what you are talking about

[@jellosapiens7261]

It really is hard to overstate how much better your playing/writing gets when learn to use inversions to create proper voice leading

[@iszybutler3000]

In the first examples you did, you showed people using incredibly basic strumming patterns. This is why it sounded dead. It wasn’t exactly because of the chords (though that could use some improvement) It’s not the chords, it’s the way you play them. If the chord is actually misinterpreted, like in the Beatles example, then that Is a different story, but not websites are wrong. It’s just the styles people play them in that are wrong.

[@mystirboy]

If he decided to put on people like Boyce Avenue who really loves to play on open chords, then comparisons might be more fair.

[@Hexolero]

I feel like the problem is playing (a) the same 10 open chords and (b) at a predictable rhythm at the same time. If you start varying either of these (by either using variations on these chords, or by changing the rhythm) it gets infinitely more interesting, and doing both is where you start to be able to make some really unique music. If anything, I took away from this video that when playing guitar, I should spend less time working with just open chords and try experimenting with other variations as well.

[@kevinmcnamara73]

also played on a shit sounding guitar micd up badly.

[@d00mprodigy21]

I agree completely. strumming patterns are crucial to getting a song right. An example I can think of off the top of my head is pennyroyal tea because of how I used I play it. I played it once and thought it was odd, so I looked at the mtv unplugged performance. I changed my strumming pattern and it fixed everything.

[@Gemcitygoddess]

Damnit I was about to leave a comment about it sounding like it was a pick/strumming hand issue not a cord choice issue

[@kansaimonmusic]

The thing about buskers slamming open chords is that if your guitar is unamplified, these are the ones that give you the maximum volume as you play them. Riffs and single note lines typically don't carry as well. But yes, there are way too many channels giving people the dumbed down four chord version of any and every song.

[@realGBx64]

This is exactly the reason why after reading 4 pages from a guitar book I just decided to pay a classical guitar teacher and learn to play classical music instead.

[@thefrub]

A 10 minute video saying that if you have more skill and add more variety, music sounds better. What a revelation

[@Sk8rocka]

Yeah and a million comments of people disagreeing. So what's more stupid?

[@SaltyGamingHDD]

AudioBootlegs pretty sure he was being sarcastic brother

[@Crazelord91]

It's basically 10 minutes to say "git gud"

[@AndrewMullerBoy]

I was immediately able to take the tips in this video and revoice some chords in a song that improved it. Not sure it's as impractical as you're suggesting.

[@badmanjones179]

@@AndrewMullerBoy yea i didnt realize this immediately it was good 2 catch a vlip

[@czgibson3086]

Not sure why you told us there are many ways of playing a C chord and then put up an image showing lots of extended chords and altered dominants which are conspicuously different from a plain old C major. I'm a guitar teacher and I cannot see what point you think you're driving at here. Sometimes open chords are exactly what the song needs!

[@TG-nh7sh]

czgibson (its to make him look smart, and he assumes the stupid KZbin viewers won’t notice)

[@gibbygano]

@@jannik-x It's really like they only watched 2 minutes of the video. He explicitly states it's when teachers and covers use the major in the root position INSTEAD of the correct inversion and position for simplicity.

[@Ludvigvanamadeus]

You and the people that upvoted your comment need to go back to primary school, because this guy very clearly made his point: that there is nothing wrong with open chords (which he stated right at the start), but if you turn EVERY SINGLE CHORD into a root-position open chord (even when the original song doesn't use them at all), you're going to sound boring and bland.

[@czgibson3086]

@@Ludvigvanamadeus If you see someone covering a song using root position open voicings instead of extensions or barre chords, that's a beginner guitarist. What they need is information and encouragement, not to be told that their music is worthless because they're using "zombie chords". Boba Please give an example of a songbook that simplifies C7#5b9 to C. See if you can find one.

[@Ludvigvanamadeus]

@@czgibson3086 First of all: not once does he call anyone's music worthless, he points out why simplifying every song to the most basic chords makes it lifeless and why you shouldn't do that, unless you are either doing it deliberately for a certain artistic effect - or the song IS actually played with these chords. " Sometimes open chords are exactly what the song needs!" - that's exactly what the video said - 'SOMETIMES' being the key word. There is no excuse for butchering songs. If you are a beginner - there's plenty of great songs that are very easy to play and use either root position open/barre chords or 3-4 power chords to great effect (the first song I have ever learnt was 'Come As You Are', which is composed of a very simple riff, two power chords and a four-note solo) - or even no chords at all! The problem is that a lot of people are being taught that all they need is a few chords and they can play almost any song out there. There are thousands of books and websites which provide the song lyrics and a list of chords, implying that's all you need to play the song. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, after all, this is the idea behind fake books in jazz - however, EVERYONE KNOWS that fake books are not for novices, they are for advanced players who know what they're doing and are not playing the simplest possible voicings, they use this information as a base for their interpretation. For some reason in rock music the equivalent of fake books (chord sheets) are treated as the best way to introduce people to guitar, which is a terrible idea. This is the entire point behind the video.

[@mr_sandman1082]

Theres nothing inherently wrong with these chords imo. I use them too when I write songs with finger picking patterns or such things, it’s less the chord and more so how you play it with strumming pattern and using unique chord progressions. Alot of the best guitar tracks of all time where created just using these chords, and yet they still sound good to this day

[@amsyarzero]

That's Tantacrul's point, which he highlighted at 5:17 Open chords aren't bad, but if one keeps playing it in the same pattern and position over and over throughout the whole song, then it's gonna sound boring at one point. You said that _"a lot of the best guitar tracks of all time were created just using these chords"_ and that's true, but I bet the players varied the way they play the chords e.g. strumming differently, instead of the same ol' _"block chords every beat in 4/4 time"_

[@mr_sandman1082]

@@amsyarzero yes very true, rythm and position makes a huge difference

[@TomEhlinger]

"If you play more than two chords, you're showing off." Woody Guthrie

[@ProfesserLuigi]

Anazing how far music has come. Now you're only showing off if you play more than 3 chords.

[@FreakofNature147]

Was he joking? lol

[@mikhail9607]

FreakofNature I’m pretty sure he was. Guthrie was known for being a goof sometimes. His guitar was famous for the sticker “THIS MACHINE KILLS FACISTS” so you make what you will of the quote as to whether he was joking or not

[@FreakofNature147]

Mikhail I appreciate the response. I just gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured he was messing around. It just seems highly ignorant to say that. I’ve thought of it a few times since commenting lol

[@davidspencer8910]

“One chord is fine, two chords is pushing it, three chords and you’re into jazz” Lou Reed

[@Tantacrul]

Hey everyone - I'm sure you've noticed that there's been a large gap between my videos recently. The reason is that I have a lot of other bits of work going on to pay the bills. Although my channel is still growing nicely, it's is not yet at the level where I can dedicate the sort of time I think it deserves. So, if you have a bit of spare coin, I'd ask that you please consider become a Patron to support my channel. If not, don't worry. Thanks a lot for watching, regardless! www.patreon.com/Tantacrul Also, I'd like to clarify one thing that has popped up a lot in the comments section. I'm not in any way arguing that open chords are bad. They're not. IMO they're the nicest sounding and most resonant chords the instrument can produce. This is a video about exploring options and thinking about what's most appropriate for the piece of music you're learning. If that turns out to be open chords, I've no problem with that. No chords are automatically 'wrong'.

[@lordofnesss]

Absolutely right !

[@agustineusebi]

hey! whats de name of the movie that appears in minute 5:21 ? please if u can answer would be great!

[@hermeticascetic]

They're not bad... They're lazy and used improperly

[@KartoffelnSalatMitAlles]

@@agustineusebi Whiplash

[@shaggermcgagger5767]

dont worry dude.. if you have to explain yourself to people like that then its safe to say they just need to learn a little more before they criticise anyone. they would know once they actually learn guitar and wouldn't say a word lol.

[@anthonyduane4815]

As someone who occasionally plays guitar (though not particularly well) but doesn’t seek to make it a huge part of my life, I can say that I’ve played many a zombie chord cover. After thinking about it, I realized that I’ve always enjoyed a song more when I listened to the original and did my best to copy it exactly. It takes a lot longer to trial and error my way through the different chords and get each note right but it ends up sounding better and makes it way easier and more enjoyable to try and add in the little originality I can. Plus I end up learning more. Also thanks for the great video

[@NamelessFacelessWhoa]

It’s so satisfying that when you brought back In Bloom to the background the second time you started at the second verse. Your editing saved my brain from breaking

[@SpookyApparition]

A lot of this video doesnt make sense. Open chords generally have more harmonic complexity than a bar chord or power chord. I think your point is that people are just playing songs incorrectly. The Dyer Maker clip is an example of that. He massively simplified the song, but that would have been the case regardless of whether he played open chords or power/bar chords.

[@rallokkcaz]

It's not about the chords, it's about the player.

[@Fusion42Music]

Bingo

[@chrisw5742]

@The Future Now How about a vocal chord? Or a spinal chord??

[@chrisw5742]

@The Future Now My spinal "cord" was almost severed. See my surgeries video :-P

[@Fusion42Music]

@The Future Now It really just depends on the song. Sometimes simple chords are perfectly fitting for the song in question, other times not.

[@JohnBartmannMusic]

where'd you get the clip of dylan singing in key?

[@joeshmoe7967]

LOL! Too funny. Although never a great singer, Bob didn't sound too bad early on. I am not sure what happened later. Did he get lazy or just not care? I have seen Iive videos, where he should have offered ear plugs AND a refund.

[@ezioblazesit9017]

F

[@Rainboy75]

Dylan is a great vocalist. His sense of timing is simply exquisite. One of the greatest in that respect. His phrasing too is truly great. Probably the most underrated singer in the history of popular music.

[@joeshmoe7967]

@@Rainboy75 We will just have to agree to disagree. Early on Bob was definitely unique and brought his own style. Later his live performances were abso!ute rubbish. 2 years ago I had the pleasure of watching a group do a Dylan tribute and it was absolutely incredible. It high lighted the song writing prowess. Their performances crushed any live Dylan performance from probably the last 25 years. Never will think Bob is a great vocalist, but I do think the musical world would not have been the same with out him. Lay Lady Lay, his best vocal for my money.

[@987654321012346789]

KZbin

[@rissicamilo]

this video inspired me to play piano :)

[@guitarsinger7382]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@crashtestdummy87]

i was thinking the same thing, way easyer, the notes follow one straight line from a to z

[@LSSTmusic]

​@@crashtestdummy87 underrated comment right here

[@ninjafish123]

Just avoid the piano version of this, I still see plenty of novices playing everything in root position

[@Eclipseunderscore]

@@crashtestdummy87 been looking for the Z note for years, haven't found it

[@big_gamer1234]

a good example of a song that uses the most simple "zombie chords" but still sounds fresh and great is "in the aeroplane over the sea" just the strumming pattern makes it stick out so much.

[@knifeforkandaspoon]

An interesting watch. Would be more well-rounded to not only see "How to ruin your guitar covers", but "How to AVOID ruining your guitar covers."

[@Tantacrul]

Fair comment

[@jamesd7678]

knifeforkandaspoon well he did talk about chord inversions and implementing melody into chords. So there’s that

[@isaacpadilla1428]

“BONE CRUNCHING B” earned my sub 😂

[@everdale8920]

"Of course, it can still be used today" Gives the example "Outkast - Hey ya", a 15 y/o song.

[@themacocko6311]

It hasn't changed and that which has isn't really for the better.

[@Liggliluff]

Released: 9 September 2003 As of writing this reply, that is 17 years and 4 months ago.

[@pssurvivor]

my guitar teacher taught me the right way and as a kid i had a lot of fun playing around with notes

[@ipsurvivor]

The voicings are neutral. There’s nothing wrong with open chords. You can do other things to make them interesting. Roy Clark played these chords all the time... I play barre chords and exotic chords more than first position open chords... but there’s nothing wrong with these chords. This video is kind of snobby in my opinion.

[@fish4225]

He never said there was.

[@ShittyWankDemon]

Open chords aren't neutral though, you're thinking of power chords

[@ipsurvivor]

D3x tr0m3 - By “neutral” I mean “of the same value artistically”. I’m not talking about frequencies, etc.

[@ShittyWankDemon]

@@ipsurvivor ah sry, my bad

[@giuseppep.7180]

its all in the right hand, fuck what youre doing with the left.

[@codygaisser]

I think strumming open chords is a great way for novices to start having fun playing real songs, wrapping their heads around the concept of chord progressions, and maybe even writing their own tunes. The problem only arises when these players aren’t taught anything else. For years I only knew open chords, barre chords, and the pentatonic scale, and I still feel I could’ve progressed faster (and probably be a better player today) if I’d had more access to information as a kid in the 90s (then again I was also a hard-headed, closed-minded little shit so maybe not). However knowing all these “zombie chords” and what a jazz guitarist once told me was a “bullshit scale” meant I could reliably accompany myself while singing or even take an improvised solo over a band almost immediately after picking up the instrument, so I ended up having fun and sticking with the guitar whereas many of my peers put it aside.

[@rjlchristie]

"I think strumming open chords is a great way for novices to start having fun playing real songs, wrapping their heads around the concept of chord progressions, and maybe even writing their own tunes." Of course they are. This video is a most confused presentation of the maker's insecurities and personal tastes. If he wants to complain about half trained musicians presenting poorly adapted/arranged music in public then fine, he should do that. Or if he just wants to discuss inversions he should just do so. Commencing by dissing root position chords played on a guitar is just dumb. He didn't even feel it fit to mention that the strum-along accompaniments/arrangements rendered on a solo guitar are frequently intended only as an accompaniment to a vocal performance, and as such present a harmonic sketch of full band arrangements which originally had detail provided by multiple instruments. They are not guitar arrangements of songs. Having taught and performed classical guitar for a living for over 30 years I can appreciate the skill level required to properly arrange most music for guitar and have it present coherent "correct" voice leading etc. It's a far, far easier thing to do on a keyboard. Most guitar players lack the training. Open position chordal strum-along is fine for many thousands of players..

[@kleinkaufman8940]

And that's what the guy from the video says, if you picked the open zombie chords from a variety of possibilities then great, if you "had" to pick them because that's the only thing you know, then there's something wrong and it limits you. I hated our lead singer because he insisted on playing guitar while singing live and he played every chord either barred or open and we were a pop punk band. I will agree that they are a great starting point, and a powerful tool to help a beginner learn actual songs and even accompany you if you like singing.

[@oOPPHOo]

6:42 Alright I feel like your're showing this guy quite a few times and each time it's out of context. I forget his name, but he basically made a bunch of videos merely showcasing songs with same chord progression. He wasn't actually teaching you to play those songs. Playing 100 popular songs with 4 chords is just a neat little party trick showcasing how similar pop music can be. It's not a substitute for an actual performance and it was never presented as such.

[@le9038]

Four years later and tiktok comes out to try to claim you can play one entire song on only four fingers

[@Izunundara]

A sharp on B is the kind of note you hear when the killer's identity is revealed to be YOU FROM THE FUTURE

[@darth_dan8886]

It's easy to diss the "only 4 chords" tutoials, but how hard is it to find something else?.. Honestly, I tried learing by just taking some of my favorite songs and seeing their chords... However the difficulty is that these chords never show your actual supposed movement. Do I strum? Do I pick certain strings? OK I hear I need to pick 3 strings, which ones? I am not that experienced in music as to instantly know the answer. So, how do I start off that?

[@lewisnorth1188]

Usually in the chord diagram, if a string doesn't have a finger on it, there'll be an O or an X on the end of the string. O means you okay it open, X means you don't play it. How you actually play the chord is up to you, unless the tab for a song is telling you specific way to play it

[@thedrules478]

honestly bro, if its picking I typically just try to learn by ear and match the pitch to one on my guitar. It typically saves the hassel of "I know this is wrong but its supposed to be right" frustration.

[@bohenian]

I don't want to be a dick about it but... Practice ear training and try playing along with it with what you currently have you'll get there

[@izzatafandi9298]

I'm no music expert but there several things you can search on; Chords: basically a set of several notes played together (That tip from lewis about that X and O is handy when reading chords diagrams) Some of techniques to play can be either 1. strumming (different songs have "different strumming patterns" which is the rhythm of the song youre playing, some songs may have the same chords but different strumming patterns, try and listen to some songs and play along as you go you'll get the hang of the pattern as you go while also improving your ear) or 2.Arpeggios: when notes are played one at a time Instead of strumming a chord, you pick each string individually and is mostly used in fingerstyle . If youre more into learning fingerstyle type songs, be sure to learn how to read tabs . Also, when trying out songs, instead of just strumming the whole thing, try using simple arpeggio in some of the chords, it'll give your playing a lil soul. Good luck!

[@GregJonson]

Noob musicians: use 4 chords in 30 songs Pro musicians: use 30 chords in 4 songs

[@doug4764]

Noob musicians use 4 chords and don’t care Great musicians use 100 chords and starve Pro musicians choose just the right ones and pay the bills and live a happy life.

[@reenasharma3004]

I'm a pro at uke an noob at guitar

[@nihilistlivesmatter]

What a load of horseshit

[@motley13mars]

AC/DC... Jk

[@vitaminb4869]

Noob pop musicians: use 4 chords in all of their songs. Pro pop musicians: use 4 chords in all of their songs.

[@spartan456]

For beginners I think these types of chords have a perfect place. If you're working with an instrument that can actually play chords, learning a handful of basic ones gives you a very strong start to developing technique and understanding basic harmony. I look at them as jumping-off points for a beginner. The real value of them comes from how you experiment with them (like inversions or dropping 3rds, transforming them into 7ths, 8ths, or 9ths, etc), or changing the way the chords are played (such as arpeggios). I started self-teaching the piano about 4 and a half months ago, after I learned a handful of basic chords I immediately started finding new and interesting ways to play them that still sounded right. The benefit of these super basic chords is you can play them, and know that all of these specific notes work together. So knowing they already work together gives you the ability to screw around with how they are ordered, compared to not knowing any chords at all and just randomly trying stuff until it "sounds right" (which will still probably be musically wrong). The problem with them is when people act like they are the end-all-be-all of constructing harmony, which just isn't how music works. There are hundreds of chords to choose from and hundreds of interesting ways to play them. For beginners who do not possess this knowledge, it makes sense that they would heavily rely on the absolute basic of basics and feel happy that they can actually play something that sounds KINDA like a familiar, well-known song. But I think all of these videos that act like these are all you need to play anything are just teaching very wrong ideas to beginners. Teaching how to play and apply the chords is fine, making people believe they will expand their musical repertoire by 100 songs because they learned a few C minor and A minor chords is not.

[@guitarninja0403]

Cool comment, but isn’t an 8th chord just a normal chord?

[@spartan456]

@@guitarninja0403 Yes! At the time I wrote that comment I was still quite new to music theory, I still am but I do know more now, lmao. I just assumed that there was such a thing as an 8th at the time I wrote that, and it would be denoted as such. But that obviously doesn't make much sense because...well, the 8th scale degree is just the tonic, in a higher octave.

[@kaitlyn__L]

I’ve had this experience too. It’s much easier to visualise the relationships in a chord on a piano, and I kinda wish when I was attending guitar lessons that had been brought up. “Why is that called a 7 chord?”; “it just is” could’ve instead had an explanation of using the seventh scale degree.

[@spartan456]

@Kaitlyn L Yup. A lot of things are much easier to understand when you look at a piano, especially intervals. I mean, a third is quite literally 2 whole steps from a root. You just have to look at the keys and count. A lot of music theory concepts are extremely easy to visualize on the piano, even the formulaic approach to creating major or minor scales.

[@psychedeliccarrie5921]

Tune guitar down and put a capo on, now you have no zombie chords.

[@elvirjade4742]

Amazing suggestion Kappa

[@marselmusic]

*brain exapnds*

[@ricbachman1727]

Sorry, but I've always found capos to be incredibly lazy. Well unless you're talking about a spider capo or multiple spider capos, but that's really more of just an easy way to do an alt tuning.

[@nostalgiafactor733]

@@ricbachman1727 are you an idiot

[@tanbandanamanband256]

Then you are just playing zombie chords in a different key.

[@sevcon2]

You're so right about the guitar tabs. I never understood why Can't Stop by the Red Hot Chili Peppers sounded like garbage whatever version I tried out. Took a pretty good KZbinr for me to finally get what Frusciante was doing differently.

[@ManWithNoExpression]

That Norwegian Wood clip gave me so much pain

[@rustydusty8637]

same brother

[@kd9262]

yeah and there's no fucking A minor lol

[@coitusinterruptus4226]

@@kd9262 It would be E Bm but that was D Am

[@mrnelsonius5631]

I encountered that Beatles guitar book when I was 13 learning guitar. It took me 3 minutes to realize it was all wrong garbage. If I had stuck with that book I probably wouldn’t be a professional musician now. A travesty. I was thinking about the Beatles at the start of this video. Their music displays masterful harmonic sense for pop songs. One of the best places to start understanding harmony. Just stay away from that book haha

[@variousthings6470]

I heard that one reason that a lot of published sheet music transcriptions (particularly older ones, such as the Beatles book you show) use open shapes for their chord diagrams is that they were primarily intended to be played on piano, with the guitar chord diagrams a secondary consideration. The pianist doing the transcription would just write the chord name, and then they or an editor would just paste in whichever open shape guitar chord diagram they had on file to match the name. Not being guitarists themselves, they wouldn't know when the open shape was not the appropriate choice. I've found that's mainly a problem with older publications and those described as "Piano/Vocal/Guitar". Publications that explicitly state that they contain guitar tab arrangements are more likely to have more specific chord diagrams too.

[@Tantacrul]

Ah! Thanks very much. My friend and I have been bamboozled by that particular book for years. It's almost become a party piece for one of us to try and play something from it!

[@MaggaraMarine]

Exactly. The chord diagrams are just random suggestions (probably first chord shapes that the software they were notated on suggests). I would remove those from transcriptions altogether, because who even reads chord diagrams when they play the song? The book in question is definitely not a guitar-specific book - it's something that's supposed to work for any instrument (it gives you the melody and the chords), which is also why a lot of details are left out. (But again, I think the inclusion of simple chord shapes is pretty stupid - does anyone even read those chord diagrams?)

[@PutItAway101]

Most of the time the pianist doing a "Piano Vocal Guitar" transcription is barely interested in the piano part, let alone the guitar.

[@watermelonhelmet6854]

@@MaggaraMarine Does anyone read the Chord Diagrams? Yes. Beginners who can't afford lessons. They're a bit of an anachronism now, but when I started learning the guitar in the late 80's, they were an absolute godsend. I couldn't afford lessons, the internet wasn't a thing yet and most 'Learn Guitar' books you could buy where more interested in teaching you to read standard music notation and theory and were primarily designed to be used in conjunction with lessons, not instead of. With a Beatles songbook with chord diagrams to show me where to put my fingers, within a few weeks I could play something that was recognizable as music.. My 'Tune a Day' books (a standard in the UK) took months to teach me to play 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Star' on one string...with my Beatles songbook I could strum out a recognizable version of 'Yellow Submarine' in a couple of weeks. Chord diagrams get beginners playing quickly, which is a huge motivator when you're starting out. The internet and the millions free resources it provides has made them pretty obsolete...but I've been playing guitar for 30 years now. Without those diagrams I'd have given up before I started.

[@Stoney3K]

And in most cases, the piano voicings are even different from the guitar chords that are displayed on the lead sheet. In a lot of cases the piano will play an inversion or have some notes doubled up over several octaves, but the guitar chord symbols just show the 'default' voicings for the chord every time. The best way to fix that is to use your ears, and only use the chord name as a starting point if you can't hear perfect pitch.

[@serseriherif9530]

The open chords are actually one of the nicest voicings you can play as most of the shapes are different inversions in stead of just sliding a barré shape up and down... the problem is just that alot of the musicians don't understand the concept of voice leading and that chords should never be static but should follow the melody of the song

[@DavidArmstrong9]

Miran Öztürk you’re right but they are all root position, not inversions

[@iheartlreoy8134]

Miran Öztürk There’s plenty of places to go with barre chords where it’s more than sliding the shape around.

[@Melodeath00]

Pretty sure that was exactly the point of the video?

[@TyTeaStrings]

Hello, I agree open chords can be overused, BUT that’s typically because in SOLO ACOUSTIC COVERS, you don’t have a full band backing you up. Trust me when I say that it makes the difference. It was especially obvious in the Beatles example.

[@ericquinney6004]

You can play just about anything on an acoustic that you can on an electric. Also thats why acapella was created... use your voice to mimic instruments. You obviously missed the entire point of the video.

[@mcmerly1355]

Guess you missed HIS point 😉 It's not about acoustic or electric, but how a song is performed in its entity. Anyway, even an acoustic version of a song can sound beautiful with simple open chords. Depends on the song in my opinion. To say, only beginners should use them is quite a narrow point of view imho.

[@TyTeaStrings]

eric quinney not really. Every example he used was a cover video on KZbin that used acoustic. I get his point, but he’s aiming to criticize covers that used vanilla chords on solo acoustic covers. It’s something to consider. Sure, you can play anything, but there are several songs that don’t sound good if they’re meant for another version of the guitar.

[@TyTeaStrings]

Mc Merly I got his point, but he seemed to be criticizing a LOT of people who uploaded single acoustic covers. I’m a guitar major in college, and I understand that it’s important to learn more chords, trust me. However, with his specific criticisms, I feel he’s just nitpicking completely different criteria’s of a performance.

[@mcmerly1355]

@@TyTeaStrings I was speaking to this Eric guy, sorry to be confusing 😉 I'm absolutely with you!

[@yepisuredolikecats]

ah so THIS is one of the reasons why so much worship music sounds so painfully generic and soulless! (this is coming from a Christian who is tired of singing the same five songs)

[@abyssmanur3965]

I heard Christians frown on minor chords ... my uncle only ever played major chords on his piano.

[@abyssmanur3965]

@@Bruhdesu That's why his playing sounded like shit lol.

[@daviunnarsson8605]

​@@abyssmanur3965 that might be a thing in some odd, overly traditionalist branches, but minor chords aren't frowned upon by Christians afaic. Music is indeed very bland without any minor chords and that's most definitely not something people exempt (or think about at all).

[@carterc9171]

Kira Kuinn Minecraft not true, many country songs don’t use minor chords

[@MrCollyT]

It's crazy how wrong christian rock gets it and how right gospel gets it